League of Legends Mafia - Part 1

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? Do not discuss the game outside of the thread even after you die; you might come back to life.

Guidelines

Day phase

? You must post twice during each day phase.

? Players can make lynch votes by typing [vote lynch XXX]. Players are not obligated to vote and can change their vote by typing [change vote lynch XXX]. To abstain from the lynch vote entirely, players can type [vote no lynch] or simply [unvote]. Whoever has the most votes at the end of the day will be lynched. If there is a tie, the lynch will be randomized between the two candidates.

? Actions are processed as they are submitted.

Night phase

? Posting is not allowed during the night phase.

? The mafia can make a kill each night.

? Actions are processed at the end of the night, with priority given to roleblocks.

Gameplay

? Players are notified if their action fails because of a roleblock.

? Bulletproof players become temporarily vulnerable to kills when they are roleblocked.

? A superkill bypasses all protections and takes any number of additional lives.

? Role reveals are allowed because there are roles that prey on knowing other players' roles.

? Each phase is 24 hours. A cycle refers to a 48 hour period consisting of 1 day phase and 1 night phase.
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Player list
Spoiler:

1. Belphegoob (Pantheon)
2. WAD (Evelynn)
3. WolfPrinceKiba (Shen)
4. Legend (Lulu)
5. Alwaysmind (Jarvan)
6. familyparka (Nami)
7. Lord Genome (Illaoi)
8. Marco
9. hammer
10. Chaos (???)
11. Laix (Shyvana)
12. Stelios
13. Firestormer (Vayne)
14. Sin (???)
15. Psychic
16. Superman
17. Laix (subbed in for Gogeta) (Ahri)
18. Shark Skin
19. Franky (Lissandra)
20. Degaforce (???)
21. sworder
22. Josuke (Fiora)
23. Melodie
24. Crescent Nyx (Janna)
25. VoDe (Yorick)
26. Santi
27. Mr. Waffles
28. Saturno (Amumu)
29. sarun uchiha (???)
30. Viper (Orianna)
31. Persecuted (LeBlanc)
32. Shy (Bard)
33. Vaeny
34. RemChu (???)
35. αce (Lucian)
36. Atlantic Storm (Zed)
37. Baroxio (Katarina)
 
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Okay, here's why I wanted Persecuted to answer my question. THere is a chance that mafia controlled his vote via some ability. I find it strange that he'd deny sending the vote in.

Franky said:
Waffles was the first to note it.

Also

[Vote Lynch Marco]

Basically for the same reasons as everyone else, just got done skimming.
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Who is everyone else? It's just Psychic and Stelios. Can you be scummier?
 
Psychic said:
Where the hell is Persecuted, Ace and Legend? If you guys are not willing to answer questions then one of you is getting lynch today.

Ace, you can't just drop a "trust me" vote on Marco and dissappear.

Persecuted, are you a nexus?

And I have to wonder, did Baroxio really targeted Degaforce or did he targeted Persecuted and got redirected to Degaforce? Persecuted's failure to answer means he is a nexus and I would place nexus as town. Meaning mafia attacked Persecuted twice? But why.

Marco, we're not following you. You lead us astray too many times. Let's look at Marco's voting history.

Day 1 - Saturno
Day 2 - NL and believes Baraxio is the vig
Day 3 - Baraxio but only because everyone else like me push hard for it
Day 4 - VoDe

You know, looking back on Day 1, you told Wad that he is rusty as maf. But yet you voted Saturno?
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You've made this list as an attempt to show that I led town asray. So I'll address it in that manner before I explain the reasons behind my votes.

Day 1 - Yes, I vote Saturno. Yes, I suspected WAD too. This isn't me leading town astray. I don't think I influenced this lynch much.
Day 2 - I NLd because it was the smart thing to do. I still believe NL was the right thing to do, so this was definitely not me leading town astray.
Day 3 - So, how is this me leading town astray if I voted the same as everyone else.
Day 4 - I actually wasn't the leader of this. WPK, a confirmed townie led this. I was more interested in Stelios throughout. So, again, how did I lead town astray here?

Now, my justification for my votes.

Day 1 - Yes, I suspected WAD Day 1. But I still voted Saturno over him. It can look scummy but I'm just not the kind of guy who eliminates the best players Day 1, especially just one my read alone. I know I've been wrong about people and I know how new evidence keeps switching reads around. This is why I didn't vote for WAD. Barring some actual evidence, I'm not going to support lynching someone who can be very helpful. This is how great games turn into inactive bores. You can see this in your own games where inactivity has dipped near the ends. It will almost always be because most of the good townie players are eliminated. I don't even kill people like WAD when I'm mafia. This is easily verifiable by anyone who has been scum with me. Then why would I want WAD lynched Day 1? I specifically told him I'll be keeping an eye on him for later.

My actual vote on Saturno is pretty reasonable. I think I wanted to vote Stelios but Sin convinced us not to. Anyway, I wasn't really leading anything here. I generally don't take charge Day 1 unless town is doing something stupid. There was no good reason to lynch anyone else and I'm not against taking out players that are borderline inactive.

Day 2 - I did not believe Baroxio was vigilante. I even said I was pretty sure Baroxio was scum but wanted to give him the benefit of doubt for that Day since there were possible ways to confirm him (Vig claim, lie detector, third party, etc). But I'm not so full of myself to discount all other possibilities.

More importantly, though, Nocturne. Trying to unite people into voting a specific person is harder than to NL. And when you're trying to lynch someone late-phase, some people have already voted wherever, and they are unlikely to change as votes against others stack against yourself. Basically, NL was the best way to ensure mafia didn't control the lynch. Which was really the worst case scenario. If Draven hadn't redirected the lynch, it's very possible mafia would've been in control of the lynch.

Day 3 - I was actually one of the first votes on Baroxio and was also one of the most vocal against Baroxio before this. I was the one who supported Persecuted and Legend when Baroxio tried to push suspicion on them. This was in Day 2, by the way. If you actually re-read Day 2, you'll see that I was one of the most vocal against Baroxio. I also discouraged his pushes on Legend and Persecuted, to make sure the heat was on him. This was all in Day 2. The posts are all there. You can read them. Start from somewhere around here:



So, yeah, I definitely didn't vote for Baroxio because "everyone else pushed hard for it."

Day 4 - Like I said, I didn't lead this lynch at all. But let's not pretend he wasn't scummy. Anyway, I was going harder on Stelios the entire phase.

Psychic said:
If we continue to follow Marco, town will be lost for sure.
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I'm telling you, you're already convinced I'm mafia. Try this exercise. Approach all my posts as if you believe I'm town. And then as if I'm mafia. See what makes more sense.
 
Vote count

Current Votes :

Psychic - Marco >Josuke > marco > Laix >Persecuted > marco > Stelios
Alwaysmind - Marco > unvote
Belphe - WPK
Santi - Psychic
Marco - Stelios
Stelios - Marco
Laix - WPK
Mr. Waffles - Stelios
WPK - Stelios
Melodie - Stelios > Persecuted
Shy - Psychic
Firestormer - Persecuted
Shark Skin - Persecuted
Sworder - Stelios
Atlantic Storm - Persecuted
ace - Marco
Legend - Persecuted
Franky - Marco

Stelios - 5
Persecuted - 5
Marco - 3

Votes are locked. Writeup incoming.​
 
Psychic said:
Marco, you don't get it. I'm not saying your town reads are bad. I'm saying you're purposely leading town to lynch itself because I feel that you are mafia even though I don't have any legit proof, just my scumread on you. And honestly, if you were town, you're actually a very good scumhunter. Hell, if you were really town, you would push that lynch on Wad because you of all people should know that Saturno is scummy by nature.
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You're not actually paying attention to what I've been doing. How have I been a bad scumhunter this game?

Here are the people I suspected this game in the thread: WAD, Stelios, Persecuted, VoDe, Baroxio. Was wrong on VoDe but wasn't the only one. And I didn't lead that lynch. I was trusting in WPK's read on him more than my own. I actually wanted to pressure Stelios but Stelios disappeared.

Psychic, if you actually knew my play, you'd know I'd never push against someone as good as WAD on Day 1 based on my read alone. Ask the other people in this game if you don't believe me. And I don't remember pushing the lynch on Saturno. At most, I questioned the last minute wagon on someone else, I think it was Stelios.

Psychic said:
You know Marco and Legend, this OMGus is not helping you.
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What OMGUS? I still believe you're town. But this is my point. I don't take my reads for granted. I wanted you to know that the fact that I believe you're town is a testament to your town-telling this game if you're scum.
 
Marco said:
Psychic, if you actually knew my play, you'd know I'd never push against someone as good as WAD on Day 1 based on my read alone. Ask the other people in this game if you don't believe me. And I don't remember pushing the lynch on Saturno. At most, I questioned the last minute wagon on someone else, I think it was Stelios.
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Alot of people scumread Wad day 1 like Melodie, Sin and me. We all push for Wad. In fact, it was almost a tie between Wad and Saturno. You're really mafia afterall, aren't you?
 
Psychic said:
Alot of people scumread Wad day 1 like Melodie, Sin and me. We all push for Wad. In fact, it was almost a tie between Wad and Saturno. You're really mafia afterall, aren't you?
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But your reads didn't really have any effect on my read. Barring any evidence, it's just not my style to lynch the best players.

Psychic, you didn't answer my question. How would you feel when I die or game ends and I'm revealed to be town?
 
Marco said:
Hey, lock means lock. You can't allow his vote in now.
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I was doing the vote count and asked him if he voted, he said no he hadn't realized the phase was ending already and wanted to vote for Persecuted so I'm allowing it. It's his first game so I appreciate how involved he is and I'm happy to cut him some slack. Are you really worried that this is gonna in some way hinder the integrity of the game?
 
Draven has executed Persecuted (LeBlanc)!

LeBlanc
Wincon: eliminate the town & hostile independents

[Passive ? Lying is like, 95% of what I do] ? LeBlanc has made an art of lying, allowing her to fool lie detectors.

[Passive ? Mirror Image] ? LeBlanc has 2 lives.

[Passive ? Distortion] ? LeBlanc casts an illusion over
the crime scene, janitoring her faction?s kills.

[Active ? Mimic] ? During the day LeBlanc can assume another player?s identity, stealing their voting power.​
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The crowd goes wild! Draven has reached a new level of fame!

Day five ends. Please send in your actions!​
 
Random kill imo. Waffles, do you still think Stelios is mafia or is it a red herring to lynch him? Why did you say if there is an insider, it'd be WPK? Now that he's town, is there any possibility of anyone else being such?

Legend, from your perspective, who are the most suspicious players as of now? I hope you're present this phase, Vaeny, as I want to have your take on things here as well, most notably the Stelios situation. Marco as well, I already have an opinion about Marco, but I don't want my opinion to cloud others judgement just yet.

Alwaysmind/hammer....Anything new on this? WPK flipped town, does this, in any way, reflect on whatever you guys were saying through messages or the like? Who did you vote for the previous day phase?

I think vote tracking at this point is most ideal. We're pretty far into the game, so I will get into that whenever I have free time to do so. Probably will get one or two that are pretty suspicious.

And last, but not least. Franky. Answer. My. Damn. Question. Already.
 
Melodie said:
Alwaysmind/hammer....Anything new on this? WPK flipped town, does this, in any way, reflect on whatever you guys were saying through messages or the like? Who did you vote for the previous day phase?
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Hammer was obviously talking out of his hat when he sent me that. Lesson of the day kids, beware of hammer's scum read, they may be off by 1.609344 kilometers.
 
Melodie said:
Random kill imo. Waffles, do you still think Stelios is mafia or is it a red herring to lynch him? Why did you say if there is an insider, it'd be WPK? Now that he's town, is there any possibility of anyone else being such?
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Hmm, not sure I would call it a random kill. If you are implying what I think you are implying. This kill serves a purpose for mafia. WPK had been someone that had gotten quite a bit of pressure throughout this game. After Waffles confirmed that they were masons it killed off that suspicion for the most part, save for the whole "1% chance of being a mafia spy".

WPK, at this point, no longer served as a lightning rod for conversation that would distract from scum hunting. So getting rid of him could be a way of framing Stelios, since he seemed to be the player that WPK pressured the most. Not that I'm saying Stelios is absolved or anything, but that just seems to be the strategy behind killing WPK.
 
Shark Skin said:
Hmm, not sure I would call it a random kill. If you are implying what I think you are implying. This kill serves a purpose for mafia. WPK had been someone that had gotten quite a bit of pressure throughout this game. After Waffles confirmed that they were masons it killed off that suspicion for the most part, save for the whole "1% chance of being a mafia spy".

WPK, at this point, no longer served as a lightning rod for conversation that would distract from scum hunting. So getting rid of him could be a way of framing Stelios, since he seemed to be the player that WPK pressured the most. Not that I'm saying Stelios is absolved or anything, but that just seems to be the strategy behind killing WPK.
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This seems to be way to technical for a simple townie.
 
Alwaysmind said:
This seems to be way to technical for a simple townie.
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Wat? I'm just stepping my game up:cat

But seriously, we are at a crossroads right now. Its best to keep everything in mind.
Melodie said:
Yes, that's why I mentioned the potential of them setting up Stelios for a lynch. But there is a bit too much WIFOM in this situation to put him under the bus. Vote tracking will definitely be a key, I think.
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Indeed. I was looking at the votes from last phase and it'll be tough to really parse much from them since the Stelios and Pers wagons were neck and neck. But its interesting how the votes ended up tied before Vaeny broke the tie.
 
Firestormer said:
Also, since it's the entire reason I suspected Persecuted in the first place, I still suspect that Persecuted voted for VoDe that one phase because his qt was telling him he needed to save Franky. He hasn't done anything to remove that suspicion so far.

[Vote lynch Franky]
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And his vote for Marco last phase really didn't help his case all that much. Speaking of which, Ace also voted for Marco.

I feel there's bigger fish to fry this phase though. Franky is a good lynch candidate, but I feel there may have been a few more slips out there. Well maybe slips isn't a good way to put it, but rather miscalculations:detective
 
Shark Skin said:
And his vote for Marco last phase really didn't help his case all that much. Speaking of which, Ace also voted for Marco.

I feel there's bigger fish to fry this phase though. Franky is a good lynch candidate, but I feel there may have been a few more slips out there. Well maybe slips isn't a good way to put it, but rather miscalculations:detective
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I know there's bigger fish to fry, but honestly I'm like 50/50 on the Stelios thing, while I've been about 90% sure on Franky for most of this game. It's more of a "if I can't find anything better, then he should die", rather than a locked in thing.
 
Alwaysmind said:
Are you scum, yes or no.
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Nope. I am Town.

Melodie said:
Your read on FireStormer. :catfish
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I think anyone can claim they're being roleblocked every night and easily skid by unnoticed. I don't remember it ever being confirmed that he's being roleblocked. In my opinion that just sounds like scum trying to slide under the radar making a claim that you can't really counter claim. Why would the Mafia roleblock him every night? That sounds silly, it's not like they know what his ability is for sure.

I think he's scum trying to hide with a simple lie than he can't prove but no one can disprove.
 
Franky said:
I think anyone can claim they're being roleblocked every night and easily skid by unnoticed. I don't remember it ever being confirmed that he's being roleblocked. In my opinion that just sounds like scum trying to slide under the radar making a claim that you can't really counter claim. Why would the Mafia roleblock him every night? That sounds silly, it's not like they know what his ability is for sure.

I think he's scum trying to hide with a simple lie than he can't prove but no one can disprove.
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Interesting. I honestly think FS is one of the more townie people in this game at the moment. And I guess you are just going to overlook the fact that he voted for Perse the previous phase?
 
Also Franky, considering you don't believe FS's claim that he's been roleblocked for multiple nights, I'd imagine you have some serious doubts about Marco being rolecrushed as well. Do you really feel mafia would have multiple people claiming to be roleblocked/crushed?

And could you explain your vote for Marco in some more detail? As in reasons other than what I mentioned above. Because I can see why Stelios would have voted for Marco, since Marco has been on him for a while now, but I have a hard time seeing why anyone else would vote Marco. Especially considering Pers was caught on some major BS last phase.
 
Franky said:
Nope. I am Town.




I think anyone can claim they're being roleblocked every night and easily skid by unnoticed. I don't remember it ever being confirmed that he's being roleblocked. In my opinion that just sounds like scum trying to slide under the radar making a claim that you can't really counter claim. Why would the Mafia roleblock him every night? That sounds silly, it's not like they know what his ability is for sure.

I think he's scum trying to hide with a simple lie than he can't prove but no one can disprove.
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Thank you.

[vote Lynch Franky]
 
Shark Skin said:
Yeah there could only be one other faction. Unless you want to count indies, who don't really seem to be united as far as I know.

BTW, just wondering what made you think that Persecuted was claiming Draven, Psychic?
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In one of his post he said he was the hammerer and had a passive ability so i just assumed. Though I shouldn't have believed it.

Fire, I'm pretty sure you're rb because mafia knows who you are. Also pretty sure Laix is scum this game.

[vote lynch franky]
 
Voting for someone is easy, if leading a bandwagon on someone is all it takes to prove you're town then I'm playing the game wrong I guess.


Anyway, a rolecrush was in a write-up, and yes that doesn't mean for sure it was Marco but no one has counter claimed. I honestly missed a lot of the last phase so I voted for Marco because again WAD's role was... subpar compared to the other roles we've seen so far. I could see the Mafia role crushing one of their own. Or the possibility of one of the inactives being the target?

I'm not good at pointing fingers to be fair. I don't really like being led around by the nose by claims that aren't 100% proven. If Firestormer is Mafia you're all being led around by the nose.
 
Franky said:
Nope. I am Town.




I think anyone can claim they're being roleblocked every night and easily skid by unnoticed. I don't remember it ever being confirmed that he's being roleblocked. In my opinion that just sounds like scum trying to slide under the radar making a claim that you can't really counter claim. Why would the Mafia roleblock him every night? That sounds silly, it's not like they know what his ability is for sure.

I think he's scum trying to hide with a simple lie than he can't prove but no one can disprove.
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That's a condemning line right there. That's also good to know.

[vote lynch Franky]

I hope you are not indie FS
 
Franky, I wasn't saying me leading a lynch made me town (it means I helped town, but it isn't proof that I'm town), I was saying me leading a lynch means I clearly didn't play under the radar as you were accusing me of doing. Like, I even got a ton of votes on you the day before that, a vote you only survived because Persecuted sent a vote in for VoDe via his QT.

@Psychic: you're probably right, at this point there's no reason for me to even hide my role. I'm Vayne, the town tracker.
 
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