Game Akatsuki Mafia

[Vivo Diez]

He ain't bamboozling.

What do you think about the fact that neither of us got killed?

If mafia wasn't paying attention they would have shot at me.

If mafia was paying attention they would have shot at you.

Third premise is that mafia just made a mediocre move.

 

[Shrike]

Kue has said he has day abilities. So he could still be scum tbh.

Is why I said I will clear him for today adding to the fact that he confirmed what I said and also proceeded to clear me - if he was scum, he could have used the chance to throw sus at my abilities and ultimately keep his vote on me especially since I was an easy push with you spearheading the push start of d2.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Whether or not he was bluffing, Shrike said he was going to protect me. If I was mafia I'd kill Shrike just in case he was going to protect me, blame me, then lynch me.

Wait, why would Shrike want to hint a doctor? Not liking this, does not make sense for such an experienced player as him.

 

[tinky winky]

itachi's role looks god damn strong
and most folks would trust an early miller claim
seems like why he had to go.

 

[Shrike]

What do you think about the fact that neither of us got killed?

If mafia wasn't paying attention they would have shot at me.

If mafia was paying attention they would have shot at you.

Third premise is that mafia just made a mediocre move.

I don't think they weren't paying attention,especially since they had a whole np to read the posts again.

They wanted the only trustable person to go which isn't a bad move. Both of us could have been bluffing.

 

[Kue]

if you are inactive
why place a wagin vote and just dip. ......

oh I see
when centurion does
he's town read.

I am still pushing for you for that switch to cooler at the end of the dp
if you kept your vote on me .
I wouldnt have an issue with you.
you sheeped on a vote plain and simple.

"Your read on me comes off as genuine OMGUSing as well."
by this logic you did the same to me end of last dp when I wasnt here . lmao

also quote me when you want to talk to me . I am direct.
didnt get tagged when you responded in the thread . dont be scared
teletubbies dont bite.

It's not so much the tactic itself, but how you do it.

Both a townie and a scum could drop a vote and leave, but it's how it's done that is the issue, and I explained it in my previous post.

Your issue with me was my activity and how I used it to switch votes, but I demonstrated changed behavior. I still think that if I left my vote on you that you would still be pushing for me; I can see that timeline already.

I think my read on you can't be seen as OMGUSing as Centurion tried voting for me, but I still read him as town. If I was OMGUSing I would say you and Centurion are on the same scum team, but I know that is not possible.

I don't think there's much to discuss though, I'm pretty comfortable with voting you up. The last time I had a correct behavioral read I second guessed myself too much, so I'm not going to do it this time.

 

[Lord Melkor]

I don't think they weren't paying attention,especially since they had a whole np to read the posts again.

They wanted the only trustable person to go which isn't a bad move. Both of us could have been bluffing.

Also, if I recall OniKaidou hinted something about having investigative abilities?

 

[tinky winky]

It's not so much the tactic itself, but how you do it.

Both a townie and a scum could drop a vote and leave, but it's how it's done that is the issue, and I explained it in my previous post.

Your issue with me was my activity and how I used it to switch votes, but I demonstrated changed behavior. I still think that if I left my vote on you that you would still be pushing for me; I can see that timeline already.

I think my read on you can't be seen as OMGUSing as Centurion tried voting for me, but I still read him as town. If I was OMGUSing I would say you and Centurion are on the same scum team, but I know that is not possible.

I don't think there's much to discuss though, I'm pretty comfortable with voting you up. The last time I had a correct behavioral read I second guessed myself too much, so I'm not going to do it this time.

"Your issue with me was my activity and how I used it to switch votes, but I demonstrated changed behavior. I still think that if I left my vote on you that you would still be pushing for me; I can see that timeline already"
am simply not that kind of player
if anyone thinks am scummy by all means pursue and live with the results .
I dont push people for pushing me . if I was , I would be mad tunneling on usopp last phase.


you can ask @Natalija if you want to know my meta.

 

[Shrike]

Also, if I recall OniKaidou hinted something about having investigative abilities?

Not as far as I know, Usopp said "shouldn't you be a cop as Itachi?" but Vivo and I both said that our abilities aren't really that intuitive considering our characters.

 

[Cooler]

He ain't bamboozling.

No I don't think he is. I imagine Nitty gave the mafia a counter to claims, perhaps a redirect? Do you just protect from kills or is it more than that?

 

[Shrike]

No I don't think he is. I imagine Nitty gave the mafia a counter to claims, perhaps a redirect? Do you just protect from kills or is it more than that?

Less than that.

 

[Shrike]

Less than that.

Which makes me think that there's not many roles with kills.

 

[Vivo Diez]

@Shrike is it a hybrid ability

 

[Ekkologix]

sorry im busy asfk with the other game so rly cba with this one rn

can sheep who ever u guys have strong town read on

maybe cooler or nat

im rly conflicted between both games

i think my strongest sus here were shrike and tinky

i have tinky in prison right now, but a kill didnt fail. well its kinda obvious cuz i called it but w.e, they ddint get reverse psychologied

i cannot vote anyone but tinky today unless i break my prison, which i can do at any time.

i also cannot use any ability while i have the prison on, so if u guys think tinky is good i'll drop the prison

thats it from me, imma be bk later, got class in a bit

 

[Shrike]

@Shrike is it a hybrid ability

No, it's very simple.

 

[tinky winky]

whoever rced me if you are townie
pls dont do that again ...

 

[Ekkologix]

whoever rced me if you are townie
pls dont do that again ...

get fked

 

[tinky winky]

get fked

lol you are so bad it hurts

lynch me guys
and if i flip town
dont tag me here for future games.
[vote lynch tinky winky]

you are taking town ten steps back
perhaps you would recognize why I had to act last np with a flip.

 

[Cooler]

No, it's very simple.

So could Vivo's results have been tampered with?

 

[Kue]

lol you are so bad it hurts

lynch me guys
and if i flip town
dont tag me here for future games.
[vote lynch tinky winky]

you are taking town ten steps back
perhaps you would recognize why I had to act last np with a flip.

Using the threat to not play future games is really bad sportsmanship.. both as town and as scum.

Kvothe did something like this in the past game and ended up flipping scum, but I switched votes feeling guilty. Makes me want to stick to my vote on tinky even more even though I feel bad.

 

[Cooler]

Using the threat to not play future games is really bad sportsmanship.. both as town and as scum.

Kvothe did something like this in the past game and ended up flipping scum, but I switched votes feeling guilty. Makes me want to stick to my vote on tinky even more even though I feel bad.

I hate that that worked tbh lol. I never trust selfvoting or shit like that, sets a bad precedence for defending oneself as town.

 

[Shrike]

So could Vivo's results have been tampered with?

I don't know because my ability doesn't affect anyone else's, I just get results from a random investigation. It's a bit unclear as it doesn't say anything about a faction so in theory I could get results from scum invests as well if they have any.

 

[tinky winky]

Using the threat to not play future games is really bad sportsmanship.. both as town and as scum.

Kvothe did something like this in the past game and ended up flipping scum, but I switched votes feeling guilty. Makes me want to stick to my vote on tinky even more even though I feel bad.

I had to be dragged here for this cause am usually inactive so it was about time I stopped playing anyway.
its nothing to do with you guys btw
usopp ticked me off a bit and am not going to get into it with him here.
have a good one.


also am not kvothe .

 

[tinky winky]

kue place the vote and honestly do what you can with the info you get .

 

[Kue]

I hate that that worked tbh lol. I never trust selfvoting or shit like that, sets a bad precedence for defending oneself as town.

It's bad as town, because then it ruins the integrity of the game of having another confirmed townie without using abilities or behavioral reads.

As scum you are basically emotionally manipulating people and not actually playing mafia.

 

[Shrike]

Will catch up and read kue-tiny interaction in an hour

 

[Shrike]

Hate zero sportsmanship shit like rage quitting or Usopp saying he cba with this game because he is playing another one.

Fuck off.

 

[tinky winky]

Hate zero sportsmanship shit like rage quitting or Usopp saying he cba with this game because he is playing another one.

Fuck off.

also playing in another one
maybe I should just sub out
am not rage quitting.

 

[Shrike]

also playing in another one
maybe I should just sub out
am not rage quitting.

It's not a problem of playing two games or twenty, it's the attitude of not bothering with a game. Stay and play.

 

[Vivo Diez]

sorry im busy asfk with the other game so rly cba with this one rn

also playing in another one
maybe I should just sub out
am not rage quitting.

The latest mafia tactic reaching the nation, grab a copy - now!

 

[tinky winky]

The latest mafia tactic reaching the nation, grab a copy - now!

lol
oh ffs

 

[Vivo Diez]

@Shrike @Cooler @Kue

You've played way more games than me. If someone was put in prison, would they get a mention of being put in prison or just be told that they were roleblocked? Ordinarily?

 

[tinky winky]

It's not a problem of playing two games or twenty, it's the attitude of not bothering with a game. Stay and play.

I am
am useless rn tho
for what this guy did
and he thinks he did the right thing .......
I dont want to claim cause I prob get killed if I do .
its just frustrating
tho usopp is treated the same on both wg and nf so I can get why he is like this.

 

[tinky winky]

@Shrike @Cooler @Kue

You've played way more games than me. If someone was put in prison, would they get a mention of being put in prison or just be told that they were roleblocked? Ordinarily?

rolecrushed* not role blocked.

 

[Shrike]

@Shrike @Cooler @Kue

You've played way more games than me. If someone was put in prison, would they get a mention of being put in prison or just be told that they were roleblocked? Ordinarily?

I have like 10 games total bruv, don't think I have more than you

That said I am inclined to believe him. Jail usually takes you out of the game completely abilities-wise.

 

[Vivo Diez]

The whole TAC/Usopp/tinky narrative is falling apart at least, that's some progress.

tinky probably isn't in a team with TAC

and Usopp is claiming jailer

 

[Vivo Diez]

I have like 10 games total bruv, don't think I have more than you

That said I am inclined to believe him. Jail usually takes you out of the game completely abilities-wise.

I've been in 4-5.

Don't be so modest, you can't be the newcomer forever

 

[Natalija]

I am
am useless rn tho
for what this guy did
and he thinks he did the right thing .......
I dont want to claim cause I prob get killed if I do .
its just frustrating
tho usopp is treated the same on both wg and nf so I can get why he is like this.

Spoiler:

Tobi is finally here!

Leader-sama. An alive townie is most important in the thread, not by his actions. We need to get to the bottom of the Akatsuki betrayal.

If Kisame-san is annoying, ignore him, leader-sama! It worked like a charm for Tobi with Flower!

 

[Cooler]

@Shrike @Cooler @Kue

You've played way more games than me. If someone was put in prison, would they get a mention of being put in prison or just be told that they were roleblocked? Ordinarily?

Generally I think you're told you've been put in prison. Might be a question @Pool Party Nitty can answer though seeing as it's game mechanics?

 

[Cooler]

The whole TAC/Usopp/tinky narrative is falling apart at least, that's some progress.

tinky probably isn't in a team with TAC

and Usopp is claiming jailer

So there's still hope one of my voters was scum.

 

[Natalija]

Are you fucking kidding me. You goddamm fucking retards. Bunch of shit players.

Of all the people to D1.

Spoiler:

Tobi really wonders if severed head-sama will ever stop being a drama queen. Lynches are almost never without cause by the player. And also we have a severed head now, so it's really a win win for Akatsuki and best mislynch. Although I have my doubts Kakuzu-san will accept to sew it back on.

 

[Kue]

@Shrike @Cooler @Kue

You've played way more games than me. If someone was put in prison, would they get a mention of being put in prison or just be told that they were roleblocked? Ordinarily?

I think most games on NF you don't get roleblock notifications.

In mines you do because I basically follow town of salem rules.

 

[Cooler]

Spoiler:

Tobi really wonders if severed head-sama will ever stop being a drama queen. Lynches are almost never without cause by the player. And also we have a severed head now, so it's really a win win for Akatsuki and best mislynch. Although I have my doubts Kakuzu-san will accept to sew it back on.

Nah there was no good reason to lynch me. Non of you actually articulated any sort of case on me or even specified why I was scummy or anything. It was a shit show.

 

[Natalija]

Natalija starts the wagon, no idea why she switched off Vivo she doesn't say. Pretty ballsy if scum though.

Spoiler:

Tobi had given up on Hidan-san midday. But after Kakuzu-san's vague claim, Tobi was scared we might lynch an investigator! So the fastest path of action is to go confidently onto someone a lot of Akatsuki members suspect. It was more in speed than in conviction.

 

[Cooler]

Spoiler:

Tobi had given up on Hidan-san midday. But after Kakuzu-san's vague claim, Tobi was scared we might lynch an investigator! So the fastest path of action is to go confidently onto someone a lot of Akatsuki members suspect. It was more in speed than in conviction.

A lot of discussion has happened. I already noted your quick switch was probably to save Vivo - I also noted that Vivo still being alive after you probably saw his hint basically clears you as scum didn't shoot him or Shrike or promised to protect him.

 

[Vivo Diez]

Spoiler:

Tobi is finally here!

Leader-sama. An alive townie is most important in the thread, not by his actions. We need to get to the bottom of the Akatsuki betrayal.

If Kisame-san is annoying, ignore him, leader-sama! It worked like a charm for Tobi with Flower!

I'm getting tingly...

Is that Madara?

 

[Natalija]

I'm getting tingly...

Is that Madara?

Spoiler:

How dare you! Tobi is Tobi!

 

[tinky winky]

Spoiler:

Tobi is finally here!

Leader-sama. An alive townie is most important in the thread, not by his actions. We need to get to the bottom of the Akatsuki betrayal.

If Kisame-san is annoying, ignore him, leader-sama! It worked like a charm for Tobi with Flower!

kk thanks for the advice.

 

[tinky winky]

shrike looked the absolutely worst in that lynch
nat was bold enough to start it
shrike and kue shipped
but kue seems so unsure of himself talking to him this dp.

how experienced in mafia are shrike and kue

 

[Natalija]

shrike looked the absolutely worst in that lynch
nat was bold enough to start it
shrike and kue shipped
but kue seems so unsure of himself talking to him this dp.

how experienced in mafia are shrike and kue

Spoiler:

All Akatsuki members are very experienced in mafia.

 

[tinky winky]

Spoiler:

All Akatsuki members are very experienced in mafia.

I see
[Vote lynch shrike]@Pool Party Nitty

 

[Shizune]

Generally I think you're told you've been put in prison. Might be a question @Pool Party Nitty can answer though seeing as it's game mechanics?

I can't answer for a few different reasons, and this is really becoming angle shooting. The flavor text that accompanies an ability, or the way I describe abilities, is mostly meaningless and sometimes changes depending on how I'm feeling or whether I'm in a hurry at that moment.

 

[Vivo Diez]

I can't answer for a few different reasons, and this is really becoming angle shooting. The flavor text that accompanies an ability, or the way I describe abilities, is mostly meaningless and sometimes changes depending on how I'm feeling or whether I'm in a hurry at that moment.

I'm not asking for much, just tell me who the scum are

 

[Shrike]

shrike looked the absolutely worst in that lynch
nat was bold enough to start it
shrike and kue shipped
but kue seems so unsure of himself talking to him this dp.

how experienced in mafia are shrike and kue

Did you even read the past day phase, especially towards the end? I am guessing no.

 

[Natalija]

You didn't target anyone tonight so I am clearing you.

Spoiler:

At least we know Zetsu-san didn't butcher Itachi-san, then.

I am guessing Vivo and tinky/usopp as scum team if OniKaido was right about TAC which I really hope he was.

Spoiler:

Leader-sama is town.

Did you push for a claim here, @Natalija?

Spoiler:

Of course? Kakuzu-san was about to get hanged. Tobi dislikes this fake contribution from Konan-san.

If mafia were paying attention they would have killed you for your cop hint. Hence why I think it's more likely to be players who are less engaged. Obviously I missed it too and was engaged but still lol.

Spoiler:

Or we are being played.

I don't know because my ability doesn't affect anyone else's, I just get results from a random investigation. It's a bit unclear as it doesn't say anything about a faction so in theory I could get results from scum invests as well if they have any.

Spoiler:

Sasori danna, that makes you a type of investigator. Why were you so quick to believe Kakuzu-san's claim then?

 

[Ekkologix]

bro im getting my ass lynched in the other game so i gotta stay there

i'll read up here after the day ends there no rush

 

[Ekkologix]

watch now imma get my ass lynched here and have to defend myself in 2 games at same time smh

 

[Shrike]

Spoiler:

Sasori danna, that makes you a type of investigator. Why were you so quick to believe Kakuzu-san's claim then?

I am not. I said

Mm peculiar. I can't clear Vivo after this reveal but this means that OniKaido investigated Kue as I get results from one investigative ability done during the night. I think Vivo is town a lot more now though as LM wouldn't be pressing him to reveal the results in this thread but in their pm most likely. So LM should also be town then. We aren't left with many options which is a bit too easy, I don't like it. Tinky needs to say something.


Her game says town to me. A clear town at that.

In this game there are bound to be some shenanigans like invisible kills and whatnot which is usual for a Nitty game. It's nigh impossible for me to read into that so I will have to go mostly by gut alone.

 

[Natalija]

Ok at this point seems like it might be beneficial and the they gave their blessing.

Besides being fine as fuck(the character, don't get any ideas), is town.

Thanks i am indeed town, so this propably clears you.

Spoiler:

This interaction feels super fake to Tobi! What's stopping Kakuzu-san from making this up about his fellow traitor Konan-san?

 

[Shrike]

bro im getting my ass lynched in the other game so i gotta stay there

i'll read up here after the day ends there no rush

Story of your life, eh?

 

[tinky winky]

Did you even read the past day phase, especially towards the end? I am guessing no.

I did actually.
why couldnt you vote tac like you wanted and have others follow you
why did you need someone else to jumpstart a wagon and sheep on their vote.
I want very direct responses to these two questions.

 

[Kue]

bro im getting my ass lynched in the other game so i gotta stay there

i'll read up here after the day ends there no rush

And soon you'll also get lynched in this one.

 

[tinky winky]

Story of your life, eh?

lmao

 

[Shrike]

I did actually.
why couldnt you vote tac like you wanted and have others follow you
why did you need someone else to jumpstart a wagon and sheep on their vote.
I want very direct responses to these two questions.

That's why I said you didn't read it.

I wanted to vote TAC but OniKaido convinced me otherwise and him and Natalija were the only ones I trusted at that moment. I didn't need anyone to jump start a vote because earlier I started two pushes myself, which you'd also know if you read it.

We wanted Vivo, but we were running out of time and he claimed cop, so I went with Nat as I did have sus on Cooler (which did wane over time but he is experienced enough to fool anyone here so he wasn't a bad target).

So read the goddamn thread.

 

[tinky winky]

That's why I said you didn't read it.

I wanted to vote TAC but OniKaido convinced me otherwise and him and Natalija were the only ones I trusted at that moment. I didn't need anyone to jump start a vote because earlier I started two pushes myself, which you'd also know if you read it.

We wanted Vivo, but we were running out of time and he claimed cop, so I went with Nat as I did have sus on Cooler (which did wane over time but he is experienced enough to fool anyone here so he wasn't a bad target).

So read the goddamn thread.

I will quote a few post of yours thats quite telling
give me a few

 

[Ekkologix]

Story of your life, eh?

And soon you'll also get lynched in this one.

 

[Ekkologix]

if u guys town read tinky by around middle of day lmk i can let go of the prison anytime in case he has day actions or sm sht

i'll be bk later ciao

 

[Natalija]

Spoiler:

Imagine claiming investigator, surviving the night, then asking Akatsuki members if we want a result.

 

[Shrike]

Spoiler:

Imagine claiming investigator, surviving the night, then asking Akatsuki members if we want a result.

Yeah that was very weird.

 

[Shrike]

Spoiler:

Imagine claiming investigator, surviving the night, then asking Akatsuki members if we want a result.

What throws me off though is that there is no counterclaim. Maybe the cop doesn't exist at all but he shouldn't know that, so it's a weird claim if untrue.

 

[Natalija]

What a rollercoaster ride

Spoiler:

Obito Tobi hated this post in particular. At this moment it felt like gloating. Kakuzu-san is too confident.

[vote lynch Vivo Diez]

 

[Cooler]

That's why I said you didn't read it.

I wanted to vote TAC but OniKaido convinced me otherwise and him and Natalija were the only ones I trusted at that moment. I didn't need anyone to jump start a vote because earlier I started two pushes myself, which you'd also know if you read it.

We wanted Vivo, but we were running out of time and he claimed cop, so I went with Nat as I did have sus on Cooler (which did wane over time but he is experienced enough to fool anyone here so he wasn't a bad target).

So read the goddamn thread.

If you call me "not a bad target" you'll trigger me again man.

 

[Natalija]

If you call me "not a bad target" you'll trigger me again man.

 

[Cooler]

What throws me off though is that there is no counterclaim. Maybe the cop doesn't exist at all but he shouldn't know that, so it's a weird claim if untrue.

Could have been a bluff to at least survive one more night and get a mislynch. I do tend to believe cop claims, there's few posters on here who I would consider ballsy enough to do it as you would always expect a counter claim.

In a tiny game is an out and out cop a bit OP for town?

 

[Natalija]

What throws me off though is that there is no counterclaim. Maybe the cop doesn't exist at all but he shouldn't know that, so it's a weird claim if untrue.

Could have been a bluff to at least survive one more night and get a mislynch. I do tend to believe cop claims, there's few posters on here who I would consider ballsy enough to do it as you would always expect a counter claim.

In a tiny game is an out and out cop a bit OP for town?

Spoiler:

Tobi tends to trust cops too, which is why Tobi severed Hidan-san's head. But people get desperate before they die. And Kakuzu-san was very vague. Tobi wants a full detailed claim! @Vivo Diez

 

[Shrike]

If you call me "not a bad target" you'll trigger me again man.

But you weren't.

OniKaido seemed like 100% miller which he did flip.
Natalija played like town the entire time and I trust her.
You omgsus'd me when I pushed you and later you did switch to Vivo when he swung a few weird takes, which is why I said you seemed more town at that moment.
I wanted TAC gone, but stayed the lynch because of OniKaido.
Usopp was himself but his reactions and play really town leaned considering how much was he fumbling - he usually puts a lot more effort as scum.
LM same as Usopp, just fumbled differently.
Tinky I don't know but his play seemed neutral, leaning towards town.
Kue is the one I didn't like because he seemed to sow confusion late D1 (but now in D2 his actions seem town to me), but we didn't want to lynch someone who was inactive for the whole day.

With Vivo claiming cop the only skilled enough player to wiggle out was you, thus me saying you weren't a bad choice - but the reason why you weren't outright voted is because you looked town for the 2nd half of D1.

Consider that situation from D1 and look at what we have here now.

I don't know - but if Natalija's sus is right, Vivo and LM could be scum.

Let's see the abilities:
Itachi probably investigated Kue - and I get a result that Kue didn't target anyone last night, which at least clears him from the carried out kill (unless Nitty's invisible kills are a thing but still his play D2 seem townie).
Vivo says he investigated LM, got an town as a result. Seems shaky, the words he used are just like 'this guy is town'. Investigations can be tempered with.
Usopp jailed Tinky.

Is what we have so far.

 

[Cooler]

Spoiler:

Tobi tends to trust cops too, which is why Tobi severed Hidan-san's head. But people get desperate before they die. And Kakuzu-san was very vague. Tobi wants a full detailed claim! @Vivo Diez

I would be happy to know my scum read on Vivo from yesterday was accurate but lynching me and to a lesser extent the cop in back to back days would be a disaster for town.

 

[Lord Melkor]

shrike looked the absolutely worst in that lynch
nat was bold enough to start it
shrike and kue shipped
but kue seems so unsure of himself talking to him this dp.

how experienced in mafia are shrike and kue

They seem like veterans to me, both good players.

 

[Natalija]

I would be happy to know my scum read on Vivo from yesterday was accurate but lynching me and to a lesser extent the cop in back to back days would be a disaster for town.

Spoiler:

Tobi thinks we need to grow some balls. In a game small as this, we should rely on reads, not abilities. Akatsuki would survive in the off chance that the investigator is dead.

 

[Cooler]

But you weren't.

OniKaido seemed like 100% miller which he did flip.
Natalija played like town the entire time and I trust her.
You omgsus'd me when I pushed you and later you did switch to Vivo when he swung a few weird takes, which is why I said you seemed more town at that moment.
I wanted TAC gone, but stayed the lynch because of OniKaido.
Usopp was himself but his reactions and play really town leaned considering how much was he fumbling - he usually puts a lot more effort as scum.
LM same as Usopp, just fumbled differently.
Tinky I don't know but his play seemed neutral, leaning towards town.
Kue is the one I didn't like because he seemed to sow confusion late D1 (but now in D2 his actions seem town to me), but we didn't want to lynch someone who was inactive for the whole day.

With Vivo claiming cop the only skilled enough player to wiggle out was you, thus me saying you weren't a bad choice - but the reason why you weren't outright voted is because you looked town for the 2nd half of D1.

Consider that situation from D1 and look at what we have here now.

I don't know - but if Natalija's sus is right, Vivo and LM could be scum.

Let's see the abilities:
Itachi probably investigated Kue - and I get a result that Kue didn't target anyone last night, which at least clears him from the carried out kill (unless Nitty's invisible kills are a thing but still his play D2 seem townie).
Vivo says he investigated LM, got an town as a result. Seems shaky, the words he used are just like 'this guy is town'. Investigations can be tempered with.
Usopp jailed Tinky.

Is what we have so far.

Calling my push on you omgus, please.