Ekkologix
Blood Moon
ok what r we gna do upon vivo's flip? if he flips town or scum
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lol if you are going to crush me am telling everyone out herei'll roll a dice so gl
i am dice rolling it i saidlol if you are going to crush me am telling everyone out here
pls kill me and end my misery .
With so many veteran players, you think the game would be more on course. Something doesn't smell right
@Cooler do you have any time for reads? You're the only one that's objectively cleared as town to everyone.
What double standard? He was sused and his excuses were shady. She was pressing for more with good reason. You people are pressing her for no reason besides not reading the game.
It's between Kue, Tinky or Nat for me for scum.
Vivo is probably the next more scummy after that. Usopp claimed jailer and I'm feeling confident in that claim.
So it failed on Melkor?Shrike said I used it twice in the same day phase, but it was once per day phase. Nope, it gives me no information.
Nat's responses to me were really stupid for no reason so she forced my hand to vote for her.Well the two/three scum players are super comfortable with me and Nat as wagons, no ones coming in to change it.
Tinky might not be much of a threat because of what Usopp said, so I'm leaning towards Shrike now.
"I never said I found LM sus day one?"
great so why was he your target last dp ......
I think you faked being inactive cause you apparently submitted actions in the day
when you were barely even here.
am not kvothe
want to prove it
vote me up and gets votes on me
you will get a good mafia lesson now and stop comparing me to other players.
Don't see why you're so certain Natalija is town. I would only be certain Natalija is town if Vivo is locked as town cop.At this point I am back to the same shit as D1 - I only trust 2 people.
I am 100% sure Natalija is town unless she is being the best scum ever. Cooler is another but he is dead and has no vote power.
I will wait with more observations. I want to hear from Kue and I want to see what people say about TAC and Vivo both having invests.
A vote on Natalija is a vote against town so watch what are you doing.
@tinky winky I think Kue has a point here, if you read his day 1 posts he was sussing me so I can buy him using day actions on me.
@Kue, you do not want to say what are your day actions, are you a vote stealer?
I like Kue a little more after his recent posts, @Cooler @Vivo Diez what do you think?
Don't see why you're so certain Natalija is town. I would only be certain Natalija is town if Vivo is locked as town cop.
A single scum doesn't seem very balanced to me, not when there's so many roles with invest abilities. Not a fan of you pushing that narrative. I will say that scum having the ability to vote steal in a 10 player game is pretty OP, so that kinda makes me town lean you a bit more.It'll be useful to find out if it's only a one-member scum team or if it's multiple, it would change the dynamics of our reads a lot.
Hmm, this would be a really detrimental thing to admit as scum. And you were the one that brought up having day actions even though nobody was pushing you very hard at the time afair.I am. You said that in Nitty's games vote stealers tend to be scummy, but if you have any investigative abilities you can use it on me, I got no night phase actions so you're safe.
A single scum doesn't seem very balanced to me, not when there's so many roles with invest abilities. Not a fan of you pushing that narrative. I will say that scum having the ability to vote steal in a 10 player game is pretty OP, so that kinda makes me town lean you a bit more.
Last day I found Shrike, Vivo and Nat scummy at various points.I find it super weird that at some point he gave Nat and me a town read, and now with us having no wagons he basically left.
I think Townie Shrike would be coming back to start a new wagon, I know I want to.
Hmm, this would be a really detrimental thing to admit as scum. And you were the one that brought up having day actions even though nobody was pushing you very hard at the time afair.
The second part of this goes without saying. I just don't find a single scum likely in a world where we have at least two invest capable roles and a vote stealer. That cucks scum way too much.It's not so much narrative, but I'm trying to figure out how useful I'll be. I can basically drag on the game, and I can possibly still win the game for town if I'm the last townie even in a 1v1, 1v2, 2v3 situation.
Okay let's lynch someone else.
I want TAC but just go with whoever you people want to go with.
this is what I meant with your vote @ShrikeGogogo someone else
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I find it super weird that at some point he gave Nat and me a town read, and now with us having no wagons he basically left.
I think Townie Shrike would be coming back to start a new wagon, I know I want to.
who do you think is scummy @Lord MelkorHe recently said he thinks you and Vivo are scum, didn't he?
I am not sure if I believe your mayor claim...
He recently said he thinks you and Vivo are scum, didn't he?
I am not sure if I believe your mayor claim...
how many mayor claims can town have....
A single scum doesn't seem very balanced to me, not when there's so many roles with invest abilities. Not a fan of you pushing that narrative. I will say that scum having the ability to vote steal in a 10 player game is pretty OP, so that kinda makes me town lean you a bit more.
In Nitty's Wheel of Time game our Mafia team had both vote stealer and double voter.
mayor implying extra votes right?I am the only one that claimed it?
If Shrike is scum then why didn't he kill Vivo in the night? That's my concern there. He obviously picked up on the hint, so unless they were planning to just redirect his invest or something I see no reason why Vivo should still be here - unless - Vivo is also scum and they were distancing (which doesn't feel likely to me). He was also able to watch you in the night, which you have corroborated, I don't think that's a scum ability in this game as it's not overly useful to them.So cooler can't vote at the moment.
@Vivo Diez @Lord Melkor How do you feel about forming a wagon on Shrike?
It's not so much narrative, but I'm trying to figure out how useful I'll be. I can basically drag on the game, and I can possibly still win the game for town if I'm the last townie even in a 1v1, 1v2, 2v3 situation.
I suppose Shrike and Kue could be scummates and clearing eachother. Which is ballsy but not necessarily foolish in a game this size if they decided to try and play a bit proactively after D1.If Shrike is scum then why didn't he kill Vivo in the night? That's my concern there. He obviously picked up on the hint, so unless they were planning to just redirect his invest or something I see no reason why Vivo should still be here - unless - Vivo is also scum and they were distancing (which doesn't feel likely to me). He was also able to watch you in the night, which you have corroborated, I don't think that's a scum ability in this game as it's not overly useful to them.
mayor implying extra votes right?
lol....
I dont believe you and I would urge town not to either.
What? How exactly does it work out?
nah am scum.....Yea, you're coming off as bad townie to me now.![]()
vivo's invest claim could be bullshit but a risky move .If Shrike is scum then why didn't he kill Vivo in the night? That's my concern there. He obviously picked up on the hint, so unless they were planning to just redirect his invest or something I see no reason why Vivo should still be here - unless - Vivo is also scum and they were distancing (which doesn't feel likely to me). He was also able to watch you in the night, which you have corroborated, I don't think that's a scum ability in this game as it's not overly useful to them.
If Shrike is scum then why didn't he kill Vivo in the night? That's my concern there. He obviously picked up on the hint, so unless they were planning to just redirect his invest or something I see no reason why Vivo should still be here - unless - Vivo is also scum and they were distancing (which doesn't feel likely to me). He was also able to watch you in the night, which you have corroborated, I don't think that's a scum ability in this game as it's not overly useful to them.
if a kill failed there should be an announcement no?Well, it would be too obvious of a kill for one. There could have also been a kill but it failed, there's a lot of things that can happen.
What made me sus of Shrike is just letting the wagons pile up of one player he cleared and one player that he read as town.
The clear could have been done with TMI and just wanted to gain my trust quickly.
if a kill failed there should be an announcement no?
never played his games.It depends on the moderator, I don't announce those as mod, but I send PMs to the attacker and the defender.
Does Nitty announce failed kills?
10 man game?In Nitty's Wheel of Time game our Mafia team had both vote stealer and double voter.
No, around 20 and 4 scum team.10 man game?
If you think about it, if you were to believe everything I said, basically mafia can't let me live until ELO (unless there's some day phase roleblock they can use or other things we can speculate about). Shrike might have read that LM speculated that I am some kind of mayor, and decided to change his mind on his clear on me, saw an opportunity to get rid of me, and switched votes on me.
No, around 20 and 4 scum team.
Where did I speculate that you are some kind of major?
Did you come with that major stuff to save yourself?
What do you think about my theory on Shrike?
Did you notice he took back his clear on me when you speculated I might be a vote stealer? He would know about mayors/governors by now and would want to get rid of me if he was scum. The vote just looked too opportunistic.
Hm, wondering if Shrike could be powerwolfing that wonderfully. But he had few red flags to me, undertaking to "protect" people on day one, his hard budding on some people....
Yea, because trying to get me lynched later on will seem really sus, this is the perfect phase to do it.
Now I am kind of torn between lynching you and Shrike. But maybe I should be consistent with my first impression on you this game, which was bad.....
Also, no way town has vote stealing without Mafia being able to counter it......
Now I am kind of torn between lynching you and Shrike. But maybe I should be consistent with my first impression on you this game, which was bad.....
Also, no way town has vote stealing without Mafia being able to counter it......
Now I am kind of torn between lynching you and Shrike. But maybe I should be consistent with my first impression on you this game, which was bad.....
Also, no way town has vote stealing without Mafia being able to counter it......
comparing me to usopp is disrespectful.Well, make a decision soon because I have a feeling Nat is town, and also there's no scum trying to sway votes. I thought maybe Tinky was it, but he's coming off as bad townie now like Usopp.
Yeah, I think the fact this game is just 10 players adds a bit more nuance in terms of balancing. Vote stealing in the hands of mafia makes it that much easier to control the lynch in a game where a couple of mislynches already puts town close to MYLO. It's possible but unlikely IMO.No, around 20 and 4 scum team.
Yeah, I think the fact this game is just 10 players adds a bit more nuance in terms of balancing. Vote stealing in the hands of mafia makes it that much easier to control the lynch in a game where a couple of mislynches already puts town close to MYLO. It's possible but unlikely IMO.
Well they can counter it by killing Kue lol. Lack of information hampers towns ability to use the vote stealing anyway.Oh, if town has ability to steal votes for sure Mafia has something to counter it. Is Kue's claim beliievable to you?
@Kue, are you claiming you can win the game for town even if Mafia has majority or did I misread you? How would this even be possible?
Think for youself man sheesh. Have a bit more faith in your own ability to read the game.@Kue the push on you was part of the trap I talked about with Natalija. I wanted to see the reactions but... Yours look the worst after Tinky's.
I cleared you for the moment but then asked for more info and you haven't really appeared most of the day. I also can't clear you for anything besides not doing the tonight's kill, not sure what you expect. There needs to be some pushes to let go of sus and not mislynch.
Yesterday I wanted TAC gone but OniKaido told me that he town reads him so I dropped it. Today I want tinky lynched but Natalija says that he is good.
I think Vivo really could be the cop because we don't have another one. All the other invests are lesser and more specific. The reason why we should definitely have one cop is because of Itachi's role as Nat pointed out, else there would be no reason to make him come up guilty.
Considering we have a vote stealer (if Kue is town at all), I am inclined to believe that scum are very powerful abilities-wise, especially after seeing the Itachi role.
It's not that, they know these people well and played with them lots of times, I never did, that's why I went with itThink for youself man sheesh. Have a bit more faith in your own ability to read the game.
Someone should lay out all the claims people have made and who has left to claim. Can see which ones feel genuine etc...
Meta isn't everything man, even then people can be wrong...It's not that, they know these people well and played with them lots of times, I never did, that's why I went with it
Meta isn't everything man, even then people can be wrong...
Strong vouch for tinky then. Noted.Spoiler:It’s possible to be wrong on Deidara-senpai, not leader-sama. But Sasori-danna got Deidara-san’s tracking results, and if Zetsu-san is the traitor, then there’s no way Deidara-san is!