Game Holy Shōnen Trinity 5 (mafia wins!)

[Flower]

And you don't see that the Xebec and Nessos thing you're doing is exactly that too?

You do realize I'm also questioning other players today?


I'm not tunneling anyone in the slightest.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Cypher is just annoying for now. She is deadset that I was saved because Denim and Cooler tried to build a wagon on me which exactly did nothing since nobody bought their shit. What thei achieved was people tried to iso me that's all.

 

[Ekkologix]

Protections work normally, you're grasping at straws.

thats not what it says in the OP, protections work after kills

That's not odd, it's common.


Like, additional to normal? No.


Why are you acting coy? You know exactly how it works, you had it in ToG when I made you suicide.

and r u acting dumb? it was not a town ability

no need to fish anything out mate, i just wanted his opinion on a read he already established after a night has passed. nothing of relevancy rn

im actually interested now the fk did u do to me lol

 

[Natalija]

True, I was sad that our vig got outed, but at the same time, Hayumi was gonna get a ton of heat for the info usopp revealed.

Plus what has Melkor done all of day 1? He has 20ish posts, read them and tell me that it doesn't make sense that Hayumi would vig him.

No, honestly Melkor wouldn't be the one who I'd vig. But alas every player has their own thought process so it doesn't matter

My point is let's not take it as 100% proof. Tonight will show.

 

[Ekkologix]

Ok I’m bad at counting votes. How did you come to the conclusion that Nat or Sin potentially has 0 vote power? I guess I’m lost how you figured there was a double voter somewhere. I’m not doubting, but I want to see it too. And I know their was vote manipulation with Melkor putting votes on Hayumi.

Also since Melodie showed up & claimed 0 vote power lol. Perfect and odd timing

yea about time u realize ur a moron

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

and r u acting dumb? it was not a town ability

Deidara ability is bomb. What ability should he have beside that?

 

[Melontonin]

What is your main argument against Xebec again ?

I had a whole wally; I don't like his playstyle nor his vote at the end of day 1, his claim was unnecessarily stretched out imo, though it could be a valid claim. But why would he reveal it? Destroys the whole point of that role -- Mafia would early reveal it to keep people from voting for them out of fear.

I didn't like his vote this dayphase either, his defense was bad; it made no sense. Overall, I am not convinced he's town.

And now I have slight suspicion that you aren't a townie for keeping your vote on Nessos while ignoring the situation with the current town susses (and your own) until I mentioned it to you.

 

[Natalija]

You do realize I'm also questioning other players today?


I'm not tunneling anyone in the slightest.

I can see that, but you seemed eager to lynch both Nessos and Xebec asap.

 

[Ekkologix]

I’m ignoring Ussop because regardless of what he says, everything I’m reading from him is bullshit no explanation needed. Inb4 he continues spamming optimistic ratings and quoting everything I’m saying. I’m vig, period. Now, are we voting Ussop or Xebec?

how about you
or maybe feel free to put ur vote last on xebec, i dare u to do so.

i catch ningens like that all day long bb, ask DDL and Juan

at start of today u said u wanted to see who i sus today and now u got ur answer, what u think about that?

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

I had a whole wally; I don't like his playstyle nor his vote at the end of day 1, his claim was unnecessarily stretched out imo, though it could be a valid claim. But why would he reveal it? Destroys the whole point of that role -- Mafia would early reveal it to keep people from voting for them out of fear.

I didn't like his vote this dayphase either, his defense was bad; it made no sense. Overall, I am not convinced he's town.

And now I have slight suspicion that you aren't a townie for keeping your vote on Nessos while ignoring the situation with the current town susses (and your own) until I mentioned it to you.

You were the one who asked me what I did last night. So I had to explain my ability: Can only be activated after I'm murdered.

 

[Flower]

I can see that, but you seemed eager to lynch both Nessos and Xebec asap.

When am I ever not eager to lynch Nessos?

If he is confirmed scum, down he goes.

 

[Melontonin]

You were the one who asked me what I did last night. So I had to explain my ability: Can only be activated after I'm murdered.

Yeah, I asked you what you did last night. You could'a said I did nothing, I did not ask for details about your ability.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Yeah, I asked you what you did last night. You could'a said I did nothing, I did not ask for details about your ability.

That would put me under sus because they would think I didn't send my night action.

 

[Ekkologix]

Cypher 1.0 wagon: Cooler, Mel, Usopp.
Hayumi wagon: Sin, LM, Nat.

The lynch was not RNG.

So either any on Hayumi had no vote power or the Cypher wagon had double voters.

or sm1 could fake their vote and make it move from hayumi to cypher, or from anyone to cypher

or someone vote silencing melkor??? like hayumi can do that

u were scum last nitty game u know how much bullsht vote manipulation nitty gives to scum, dont try to act like its just a simple +1 vote on someone

 

[Natalija]

and r u acting dumb? it was not a town ability

And yet YOU believe he is town. Tell me why?

 

[Hayumi]

how about you
or maybe feel free to put ur vote last on xebec, i dare u to do so.

i catch ningens like that all day long bb, ask DDL and Juan

at start of today u said u wanted to see who i sus today and now u got ur answer, what u think about that?

I’m not surprised at all. That’s what I have to think. The same exact people from yesterday still sus me now. And the thing is that you and natalija sussed me like this when you were both mafia in tower of god, and then in games when you were both town, so honestly I think y’all always find me sus period. And if claiming the vig with no counterclaim isn’t enough then I’m honestly having a hard time figuring out what would be, in which case you’re both helping contribute to throwing the game of town. Because I have nothing else to say to convince you otherwise, and instead of coming up with reasons that make sense to me as to why you think I’m scum, you both just seem to refuse to believe anything that remotely clears me as town. That’s all.

 

[Flower]

I really like Lemon getting active .

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

This wagon is orchestrated. Using Denim and Cooler who tried to build a wagon on me which achieved nothing as a reason that I was saved when in fact Cooler was the one whose vote removed by one by moving SinRaven vote from Cooler to Hayumi. Now Denim died and Cypher and Melontonin used that as a case to frame which is BS.

 

[Ekkologix]

I'm playing how I would have also played last Day Phase had people not gone at my throat this hard.

That's just my usual Town play .

wow we can just meta read ourselves like that?

aight i can do that too
yo this is my town self guys i totally did not change my playstyle cuz i am scum or smthing

 

[Hero]

Can we just agree to lynch Usopp? The game would be so much better without his presence.

Nessos should be roleblocked & Xebec as well.

 

[Flower]

Can we just agree to lynch Usopp? The game would be so much better without his presence.

Nessos should be roleblocked & Xebec as well.

As hard as he's defending Xebec, why not.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Can we just agree to lynch Usopp? The game would be so much better without his presence.

Nessos should be roleblocked & Xebec as well.

I should be vigied. I doubt scum will target me now.

 

[Ekkologix]

This is a really hard mf decision. I’m not going to lie to you. I say we lynch Usopp though.

it’s always a win-win

when i have a result showing hayumi targeted melkor u dont belive it

but when ur result shows me being framed u just go ahead

ur full of sht man

 

[Flower]

I should be vigied. I doubt scum will target me now.

Why should you be Vigged when the Vig dies with you? What kind of Anti-Town BS is this?

 

[Ekkologix]

melkor dying could obviously be framed to me or hayumi, so we wont think of it that way

guy is trying to play 4d chess lol

 

[Natalija]

Can we just agree to lynch Usopp? The game would be so much better without his presence.

Nessos should be roleblocked & Xebec as well.

Nessos, Xebec AND Usopp aside, who else do you think is scum?

 

[Hero]

I should be vigied. I doubt scum will target me now.

Why? So you could potentially take down a member of town?

Besides if someone were to kill you anyway, how would you even know if it was mafia or town targeting you. You aren’t a cop and I doubt Nitty would tell you you’re being targeted by town or scum.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Why should you be Vigged when the Vig dies with you? What kind of Anti-Town BS is this?

I see you cannot read. My night ability aka active is I can choose people to die after I'm murdered.

 

[Hero]

Nessos, Xebec AND Usopp aside, who else do you think is scum?

I’m going to say Melodie, Shrike, or Vivo.

 

[Ekkologix]

It doesn't make sense for LM to be anything but a Vig kill.

thats what they want u to think, cuz its too obvious right?

anyway, we know one person that can night kill and thats hayumi

we can just do prosses of elimination later on and find out if hes rly vig or scum/sk

 

[Flower]

I see you cannot read. My night ability aka active is I can choose people to die after I'm murdered.

So why should scum not target you, then, when they don't die for sure after killing you? You make no sense.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Why? So you could potentially take down a member of town?

Besides if someone were to kill you anyway, how would you even know if it was mafia or town targeting you. You aren’t a cop and I doubt Nitty would tell you you’re being targeted by town or scum.

It's better than wasting my active ability.

 

[Hero]

I see you cannot read. My night ability aka active is I can choose people to die after I'm murdered.

Yeah. But you wouldn’t know if scum was targeting you either. Obviously it’s best if this was a SCUM role because anyone attacking you would be an enemy.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

So why should scum not target you, then, when they don't die for sure after killing you? You make no sense.

Because they have risk of dying with me if I choose the right target aka scum.

 

[Ekkologix]

1. Because my name is Hero

2. No one has counter claimed directly or indirectly.

doenst make sense

thats why its a fake claim dumass. its a claim that none can counter claim

 

[Natalija]

Guys guys. A risky idea.

Let's force a suspicious player to vote Xebec last

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Yeah. But you wouldn’t know if scum was targeting you either. Obviously it’s best if this was a SCUM role because anyone attacking you would be an enemy.

Deidara is a bomber. What should I expect? It's his ability in the series and Nitty designed it this way i this game now.

 

[Ekkologix]

As they shouldn't lol, imagine a vig claiming. Would be extremely bad.

that too

 

[Flower]

Guys guys. A risky idea.

Let's force a suspicious player to vote Xebec last

I do it.

 

[Hero]

doenst make sense

thats why its a fake claim dumass. its a claim that none can counter claim

I already explained that you would claim indirectly by building a case on Hayumi. I can quote the post for you since I know reading the thread hasn’t been your strong suite.

 

[Flower]

.

 

[Flower]

Let's force Nessos to vote Xebec last.

 

[Vivo Diez]

I had a whole wally; I don't like his playstyle nor his vote at the end of day 1, his claim was unnecessarily stretched out imo, though it could be a valid claim. But why would he reveal it? Destroys the whole point of that role -- Mafia would early reveal it to keep people from voting for them out of fear.

I didn't like his vote this dayphase either, his defense was bad; it made no sense. Overall, I am not convinced he's town.

Hmmm...Fair enough. There have been other straight up role reveals that you haven't given as much shit to, but ok.

And now I have slight suspicion that you aren't a townie for keeping your vote on Nessos while ignoring the situation with the current town susses (and your own) until I mentioned it to you.

I'm 100% town baby

And I kind of regret moving my vote. I still think he's the safest lynch and letting him go wild will lead to severe repercussions, as opposed to the cases against Xebec and Usopp which aren't super solid. But Usopp was leading in votes against Nessos as far as I counted, so not point wasting a vote on Nessos if nobody else is going after him.

 

[Natalija]

Let's force Nessos to vote Xebec last.

He would NEVER. He'd lose the game.

 

[Hero]

Deidara is a bomber. What should I expect? It's his ability in the series and Nitty designed it this way i this game now.

Answer the question. You said scum wouldn’t target you because you outed your active ability.

You can kill your attacker. But you have no way of knowing if your attacker is town or scum. So what if a vig tried to kill you last night? How do you differentiate if it’s mafia attacking you or town. The thing is, you probably can’t. That’s why your role is solidified as mafia for me.

 

[Flower]

He would NEVER. He'd lose the game.

Then he gets lynched and also loses the game .

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Answer the question. You said scum wouldn’t target you because you outed your active ability.

You can kill your attacker. But you have no way of knowing if your attacker is town or scum. So what if a vig tried to kill you last night? How do you differentiate if it’s mafia attacking you or town. The thing is, you probably can’t. That’s why your role is solidified as mafia for me.

This is BS. So how should I use my ability? So when i die I shouldn't activate my ability at all?

 

[Ekkologix]

Or doctor. Counter claiming doctor is horrendous

or u doing nothing but fluffing and discredeting me then going for the easiest lynch of history on me today

very funny right?

Cypher for building fake narrative and Melontonin for lying.

melon seems more town to me, but i dont know them rly
i dont like cypher tho. she seems more in control than yesterday and more confident + know stuff and trying to mislead

but uve kinda dug ur own grave with ur gameplay tbh
what do u think about sin/hayumi?

 

[Ekkologix]

Deidara ability is bomb. What ability should he have beside that?

more bombs

 

[Hero]

This is BS. So how should I use my ability? So when i die I shouldn't activate my ability at all?

Answer the question. It’s not BS. If you’re town, you obviously don’t want to kill your attacker if they are town too. Then there will be two townies dead.

If your role is scum, that’s easier because the only people you have to worry about that are attacking you are town/indie & not apart of your faction or wincon.

 

[Ekkologix]

Usopp, why are you talking like you control the lynch?

well given how i was wrong about u last time, i really shudnt

but im not gna let u ningens just derail off an obvious hayumi lynch man

cmon breh

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Answer the question. It’s not BS. If you’re town, you obviously don’t want to kill your attacker. Then there will be two townies dead.

If your role is scum, that’s easier because the only people you have to worry about that are attacking you are town/indie & not apart of your faction or wincon.

Nah this is BS. Go with my reads of course. If I go with your argument now then I shouldn't activate my ability if I die.

 

[Hero]

And would you even know who is targeting you or would you just be alarmed to the fact an attack is incoming?

 

[Flower]

well given how i was wrong about u last time, i really shudnt

but im not gna let u ningens just derail off an obvious hayumi lynch man

cmon breh

We're not lynching Hayumi.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

And would you even know who is targeted you or would you just be alarmed to the fact an attack is incoming?

I will be alarmed if I die. I tried to use my ability on Cooler but Nitty said I can only activate it once I die.

 

[Ekkologix]

True, I was sad that our vig got outed, but at the same time, Hayumi was gonna get a ton of heat for the info usopp revealed.

Plus what has Melkor done all of day 1? He has 20ish posts, read them and tell me that it doesn't make sense that Hayumi would vig him.

"our vig"

heel nah

maybe ur vig

not mine

 

[Vivo Diez]

I will be alarmed if I die. I tried to use my ability on Cooler but Nitty said I can only activate it once I die.

That's for your ability that triggers if you get killed right?

What about your passive that triggers on last vote? Do you have any control over that?

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

melon seems more town to me, but i dont know them rly
i dont like cypher tho. she seems more in control than yesterday and more confident + know stuff and trying to mislead

but uve kinda dug ur own grave with ur gameplay tbh
what do u think about sin/hayumi?

Neutral atm. SinRaven defended Cypher yesterday who was confirmed town and that led to Cooler wagon. Seems trying hard not to misslynch by lynching Cypher because he knew her meta. Not sure about Hayumi atm.

 

[Flower]

"our vig"

heel nah

maybe ur vig

not mine

Ya because you're Mafia, so he's not your faction's killer.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

That's for your ability that triggers if you get killed right?

What about your passive that triggers on last vote? Do you have any control over that?

No. It's my passive.

 

[Ekkologix]

And yet YOU believe he is town. Tell me why?

because at first it was like hero's SS role from sin's game

then suddenly he adds stuff to it lol

 

[Hero]

So Melodie is just gonna leave like that?

 

[Flower]

So Melodie is just gonna leave like that?

Apparently?


Came just at the right time to say she has no extra vote power, then left again, who knows why .

 

[Hero]

I will be alarmed if I die. I tried to use my ability on Cooler but Nitty said I can only activate it once I die.

So you’re attacked. You’re about to die, but you don’t know who killed you. However, you have the opportunity to take someone else to the grave. That’s when you work with your reads and choose who will go to the shadow realm with you

 

[青月光]

This game is so chaotic

 

[Flower]

So you’re attacked. You’re about to die, but you don’t know who killed you. However, you have the opportunity to take someone else to the grave. That’s when you work with your reads and choose who will go to the shadow realm with you

Doesn't a typical vengeful Town take the killer with them?

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

So you’re attacked. You’re about to die, but you don’t know who killed you. However, you have the opportunity to take someone else to the grave. That’s when you work with your reads and choose who will go to the shadow realm with you

Isn't this obvious?

 

[Ekkologix]

Can we just agree to lynch Usopp? The game would be so much better without his presence.

Nessos should be roleblocked & Xebec as well.

id ratehr u gone over me actually, u havent contributed sht with all that post count

As hard as he's defending Xebec, why not.

this is straight up false
my vote is clearly on xebec and i am scum readin him now

AND in case he is town i want him to kill hayumi/sin

this would prove which of us is right

dont just make up bullsht about me to try get me lynched cypher. ur not even confirmed

 

[Vivo Diez]

Antagonizing suicide bombers always goes so great

 

[Melontonin]

Hmmm...Fair enough. There have been other straight up role reveals that you haven't given as much shit to, but ok.

I'm 100% town baby

And I kind of regret moving my vote. I still think he's the safest lynch and letting him go wild will lead to severe repercussions, as opposed to the cases against Xebec and Usopp which aren't super solid. But Usopp was leading in votes against Nessos as far as I counted, so not point wasting a vote on Nessos if nobody else is going after him.

Like which ones? Are you talking about the Hayumi vig reveal or the Nessos indie reveal or another I missed?

Also the dayphase is far from being over, so there's still time to build cases. I mean, I said if nothing incriminating comes up, I'd probably go with the Nessos lynch. Keeping him alive won't do us good anyway.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Doesn't a typical vengeful Town take the killer with them?

You were the one who said in role madness there should be active skill. Now you're saying my night ability should be passive. Automatically taking out player who kill me.

 

[Melontonin]

Cypher for building fake narrative and Melontonin for lying.

Whoa now, when did I lie?

 

[Flower]

You were the one who said in role madness there should be active skill. Now you're saying my night ability should be passive. Automatically taking out player who kill me.

This isn't even what I'm saying. Can you stop putting words in my mouth?

 

[Ekkologix]

We're not lynching Hayumi.

sure then have him vote last on xebec

one of us has to be right

This game is so chaotic

r u scum this game ali?
i gave u free pass day 1 but u seem to be playing the same

also JW keeps voting u again, like how he did on internet era

r u both coasting scums again?

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

This isn't even what I'm saying. Can you stop putting words in my mouth?

You said my night action should be passive. Earlier you said I should have one active skill and that's reason you didn't buy my claim. stfu you have no reason to sus me.

 

[Melontonin]

No, honestly Melkor wouldn't be the one who I'd vig. But alas every player has their own thought process so it doesn't matter

My point is let's not take it as 100% proof. Tonight will show.

Yup, hopefully the person that needs to catch on to this will catch on...

 

[Flower]

You said my night action should be passive. Earlier you said I should have one active skill and that's reason you didn't buy my claim. stfu you have no reason to sus me.

All I said is a vengeful usually takes the killer with them. Nowhere did I say it has to be a passive skill.

 

[Vivo Diez]

Like which ones? Are you talking about the Hayumi vig reveal or the Nessos indie reveal or another I missed?

Ye those. Your main argument against Xebec was his illogical reveal although it could have just easily been because he was crumbling under pressure, just like Hayumi. Nessos I'm still not sure why he revealed, nobody even questioned him on that.

Also the dayphase is far from being over, so there's still time to build cases. I mean, I said if nothing incriminating comes up, I'd probably go with the Nessos lynch. Keeping him alive won't do us good anyway.

And yet you were bullying me to move my vote off Nessos

 

[Natalija]

I believe one thing: if Xebec was scum, his scummates would never ever allow him to claim something like this.

Which is why I think he's an indie at worst

 

[Hero]

Doesn't a typical vengeful Town take the killer with them?

Well that’s with a lynch and you don’t get to choose. I’m talking about the other ability he mentioned if attacked by “mafia” where he gets to choose who dies with him.