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[Flower]

let me clarify

on k mafia hayumi was sk. he played decently active and killed me, his only voter.

on some other games he is mafia, he usually plays really quiet

why would he just claim vig?? he knows protections work after kills so u just got urself killed basically dumass

UNLESS...he is ofc not the vig right???

Protections work normally, you're grasping at straws.

 

[Vivo Diez]

let me clarify

on k mafia hayumi was sk. he played decently active and killed me, his only voter.

on some other games he is mafia, he usually plays really quiet

why would he just claim vig?? he knows protections work after kills so u just got urself killed basically dumass

UNLESS...he is ofc not the vig right???

Because you pressed her into revealing it

 

[Melontonin]

I see the narrative you're trying to build . I looked back on that post, and as far as I read, that post was in attack of Natalija with a slight mention of how your flip might determine something:


But of course you cut out the context of the post. I already said that along with you, Xebec and Usopp are my top two scum-reads, but the fact that you're now reaching this hard to stay alive for one more phase, I'm definitely leaving my vote on you

I don't understand how previously, you agreed with my post below that mafia was priority, and now when there are some good mafia candidates like the ones you're suspecting, you're trying to lynch an indie. Vivo, why?

Yup I agree. Considering he flat out claimed indie, I feel like it would be kinda odd to just vote him up now? I mean, it's like wanting the dayphase to end early. Ain't mafia a priority anyway?

My opinion is that, we leave the Nessos lynch until the very end of dayphase, if nothing truly incriminating comes up. I think we need to see as much of other people as possible.

 

[Flower]

Okay...

Nat either has no voting power or Sin doesn't, but this makes no sense as both would have said so already.


Which leaves my wagon as a wagon having somebody with double vote.


Which leaves Usopp and Melodie.


Melodie voted me up last Day Phase and that's also all she did.


Doubt Usopp has the double vote.


So what do you guys make of this?


Could it be Mel has a GF like role?

 

[Hero]

So we’re looking at Vivo, Xebec, Usopp as the scum team.

There’s probably a stronger player among the ranks. At least that’s what I want to believe.

 

[Ekkologix]

aight xebec ur backtracking urself here

1. u said u can kill who voted u last
2. u then said u can chose whoever tried to kill u

[vote lynch Xebec]

I'll claim then. My character is Deidara. My passive is I can take down player who voted me last.

My night action is active. I can choose who I want to kill after I am murdered.

sorry to see u go but i am not defending u after that one

 

[Flower]

So we’re looking at Vivo, Xebec, Usopp as the scum team.

There’s probably a stronger player among the ranks. At least that’s what I want to believe.

Melodie?

 

[Ekkologix]

and if u turn out town please choose sin and hayumi for the kill

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

aight xebec ur backtracking urself here

1. u said u can kill who voted u last
2. u then said u can chose whoever tried to kill u

[vote lynch Xebec]




sorry to see u go but i am not defending u after that one

That's both my passive and active. Ask Nitty.

 

[Hero]

Melodie?

Let me look at the vote chat

 

[Hero]

*chart

 

[Melontonin]

Melodie?

Why are you after an inactive? I'll agree I don't like what Melodie has done so far but with the amount of posts they have, it's kind of... why?

 

[Ekkologix]

So uh... which is it?

fk i was ninjad

i cant seem to catchup to the thread at all geezus

 

[Melodie]

Still leaning scum on him. Was thinking he was like forming his own narrative last phase and stuck to it. Something doesn't sit well with how he posts this game. Might do an ISO on him but there are far more interesting people to ISO whose posts don't give me a headache.

What are your thoughts on him? Or anyone for that matter? Who are your scumreads?

I think he's scum too. i dont like xebc's posts either, and im not fan of keeping indies for the same of keeping them in pesos's case either.. still reading so more to come prob

Why did Melodie get the pass? Nobody questioned Melodie? Melodie was Cypher last voter and thanks to that it was rng between Cypher and Hayumi which led to CYpher lynch.

The long hanging fruit push attempt is rather boring I must say, it's not like i posted much so if you seen any post of mine you seen em all..

 

[Nessos]

am i starting to make sense here or what

is that why u guys r pissed??

Your post seems more optimistic then this

 

[Flower]

Why are you after an inactive? I'll agree I don't like what Melodie has done so far but with the amount of posts they have, it's kind of... why?

My lynch wagon analysis. And also she kinda just voted me close to EoD. Looked like scum just voting to prevent herself from having double vote on herself.

 

[Melodie]

oh and sin you're kinda sus too ngl : pensive

 

[Melontonin]

@Melodie what info did you gain from writing this post:

@SinRaven thoughts on usopp now?

 

[Melodie]

Yeah you are right with this. But scum couldn't expect that LM messes with SinRaven Vote.
-> thus we shouldn't expect that it was meant to save Hayumi.

And we also know that the one who should have 3 votes alongside Cypher 1.0 end up flipping Town (talking about Cooler)

-> high chance that either @Melodie or you have Double vote power. (Actually means Melodie since you say you are not responsible for Vote fuckery)

Double(+) votepower often a scum passive, but it is not really alignment indicative.

I have no vote power

 

[Flower]

Why did Mel come here just when I was calling her out ?

 

[Vivo Diez]

I don't understand how previously, you agreed with my post below that mafia was priority, and now when there are some good mafia candidates like the ones you're suspecting, you're trying to lynch an indie. Vivo, why?

Because I thought Nessos had a higher chance of getting lynched.

As far as I counted, Ussop has more votes than Nessos and isn't far away from Xebec. K then.

[Chance Vote Lynch Usopp]

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

aight xebec ur backtracking urself here

1. u said u can kill who voted u last
2. u then said u can chose whoever tried to kill u

[vote lynch Xebec]




sorry to see u go but i am not defending u after that one

I even hinted my role on first page when I said villain in original series can be town in this game.

 

[John Wayne]

Why did Mel come here just when I was calling her out ?

Why do you have to keep using that Renge emote? I can't possibly sus someone who does that

 

[Melontonin]

Why did Mel come here just when I was calling her out ?

ikr

 

[Ekkologix]

I don’t see why I should do extra vote tallies on top of the other things I do for the game. You can all count votes, just the same as I can. If you want vote tallies badly enough, you will do them yourselves.

its so these ningens can see if cooler is getting lynched or not

also please change phase time onigai shimasu

im gna miss all phase/start end like that unless i stay up till 4:30 - 5am

 

[Ekkologix]

... You kinda seem scared to me.
So... Sinraven and Ali are fearless and don't mind taking the bullet, but you're scared for your life?

that what they want to make u feel like lol

they act brave as sht but they actually dont wanna get hit

refer to sin's tryahrd game and u will know what i mean

 

[Flower]

Why do you have to keep using that Renge emote? I can't possibly sus someone who does that

Awww .

 

[Melodie]

Why did Mel come here just when I was calling her out ?

must be sus, its not like my forum activity is visible to everyone since im not invis

 

[青月光]

Why did Mel come here just when I was calling her out ?

Why do you have to keep using that Renge emote? I can't possibly sus someone who does that

I approve the use of the renge emote

 

[Natalija]

Ok so, you shoot the person that voted you last, and once in the night phase you can kill someone too... That's so odd.

That's not odd, it's common.

@Natalija you don't have any voting power?

Like, additional to normal? No.

aight xebec ur backtracking urself here

1. u said u can kill who voted u last
2. u then said u can chose whoever tried to kill u

[vote lynch Xebec]




sorry to see u go but i am not defending u after that one

Why are you acting coy? You know exactly how it works, you had it in ToG when I made you suicide.

 

[Melodie]

@Melodie what info did you gain from writing this post:

no need to fish anything out mate, i just wanted his opinion on a read he already established after a night has passed. nothing of relevancy rn

 

[Melontonin]

that what they want to make u feel like lol

they act brave as sht but they actually dont wanna get hit

refer to sin's tryahrd game and u will know what i mean

Unfortunately I have no meta read except on a few players here...

 

[Hero]

Okay...

Nat either has no voting power or Sin doesn't, but this makes no sense as both would have said so already.


Which leaves my wagon as a wagon having somebody with double vote.


Which leaves Usopp and Melodie.


Melodie voted me up last Day Phase and that's also all she did.


Doubt Usopp has the double vote.


So what do you guys make of this?


Could it be Mel has a GF like role?

Ok I’m bad at counting votes. How did you come to the conclusion that Nat or Sin potentially has 0 vote power? I guess I’m lost how you figured there was a double voter somewhere. I’m not doubting, but I want to see it too. And I know their was vote manipulation with Melkor putting votes on Hayumi.

Also since Melodie showed up & claimed 0 vote power lol. Perfect and odd timing

 

[Flower]

Yeah, for some reason I doubt you have no vote power, Mel.

Like why vote in the first place, then?

 

[Melontonin]

That's not odd, it's common.


Like, additional to normal? No.


Why are you acting coy? You know exactly how it works, you had it in ToG when I made you suicide.

How is it common? That's not the hunter's role if I remember correctly.

 

[Melodie]

Yeah, for some reason I doubt you have no vote power, Mel.

Like why vote in the first place, then?

i meant i dont have extra vote power.

 

[Hayumi]

I’m ignoring Ussop because regardless of what he says, everything I’m reading from him is bullshit no explanation needed. Inb4 he continues spamming optimistic ratings and quoting everything I’m saying. I’m vig, period. Now, are we voting Ussop or Xebec?

 

[Flower]

Ok I’m bad at counting votes. How did you come to the conclusion that Nat or Sin potentially has 0 vote power? I guess I’m lost how you figured there was a double voter somewhere. I’m not doubting, but I want to see it too. And I know their was vote manipulation with Melkor putting votes on Hayumi.

Also since Melodie showed up & claimed 0 vote power lol. Perfect and odd timing

Cypher 1.0 wagon: Cooler, Mel, Usopp.
Hayumi wagon: Sin, LM, Nat.

The lynch was not RNG.

So either any on Hayumi had no vote power or the Cypher wagon had double voters.

 

[Natalija]

How is it common? That's not the hunter's role if I remember correctly.

It is not an uncommon mechanic. What hunter?

 

[Ekkologix]

What the hell are you talking about? If Hayumi lied about being Vig, the real vig will kill her on the spot (and hopefully avoid counter claiming). It's THAT SIMPLE.

we dont need u to say that its obvious enough

I don't mind taking a bullet either.


Unleash Cypher 3.0 !

ur playign very different from last time? what happened? need a couple votes on u again?

I was wrong because you were framed by mafia.

You’re wrong because you’re just bad.

Sorry lad.

i had the best reads in the entire game being cypher/wpk/ish/sigis

i just missed melkor so u can kindly fk off actually

thank u

 

[SinRaven]

oh and sin you're kinda sus too ngl : pensive

Enlighten me on why Mello

 

[Flower]

we dont need u to say that its obvious enough


ur playign very different from last time? what happened? need a couple votes on u again?


i had the best reads in the entire game being cypher/wpk/ish/sigis

i just missed melkor so u can kindly fk off actually

thank u

I'm playing how I would have also played last Day Phase had people not gone at my throat this hard.

That's just my usual Town play .

 

[Ekkologix]

Here:


Directly jumping in to defend Usopp, interisting


Btw my flip would only tell you that I told the truth about JW targeting Natalija through me.
But that wouldn't clear them as Townys. I mean JW could also be role cop and that got Natalijas role or even worse with JW being actually a CL instead of masoner.

by ur flip i mean ur convuloted point system

maybe ur lying and u got a point? how do i know? im gna need to read it

im not going after u tho, i want hayumi gone today. xebec is just getting in the way as a counter wagon so if he dies and takes hayumi with him imma be happy

 

[Ekkologix]

&& Hayumi happened to be a counter wagon???

Bro you are guilty until proven innocent


@Go D. Usopp

cypher and hayumi were both 3-3, yet cypher got lynched with no RNg

ur not even funny actually u know that?

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Well I have to double down on the vote manipulation, as I think it's pretty clear Melkor did it.

But other than that, I was trying to determine his reason for voting for Cypher and I was not satisfied with the answer; he was using confirmed townies' names to show he was innocent (even though he himself debated using Dragomir's negative view of him to confirm him as scum? So him using the argument to clear himself is ok, but others can't use it against him?), he called your name, I have no idea why, saying you don't read his meta but read how he talks about mechanics? That argument doesn't make sense to me. Furthermore, I've played with him in another forum and his meta is off; there's something he always does which he does not do here and I specified it in my post.

So overall, his reason to vote Cypher makes no sense. It just looks like a omgus.

Plus, I don't know why you wouldn't eliminate a threat to you? I think it was pretty clear that Dragomir was damn close to convincing others to vote him off. And it's always easy to blame it on "I've been framed", but just look at how he plays.

It looked like someone wanted to frame Cooler, and if he was alive he probably would have said it, but it turns out it wasn't a frame at all. So, I don't think you should be so fast to dismiss the kill as a frame.

But anyway, I'm not completely convinced he killed Dragomir... Yet.

I don't know you.

 

[Ekkologix]

The WoT game was a different flavor. Stop comparing them. Jesus. The entire format was different.

then stop fken comparing me to the previous games

u contradict urself in LITERALLY everything u say

 

[Hero]

I’m ignoring Ussop because regardless of what he says, everything I’m reading from him is bullshit no explanation needed. Inb4 he continues spamming optimistic ratings and quoting everything I’m saying. I’m vig, period. Now, are we voting Ussop or Xebec?

This is a really hard mf decision. I’m not going to lie to you. I say we lynch Usopp though.

it’s always a win-win

 

[John Wayne]

Enlighten me on why Mello

Rule of Bird

 

[Natalija]

I'll believe Xebec's claim. Not too sure about it being town.

Still think scum is among Hero/Hayumi/Flowa 2.0. Admitting killing Melkor absolutely doesn't count as a town clear.

And going for a Usopp lynch is just too easy. It's what scum would push for with a good excuse.

 

[Hero]

How is it common? That's not the hunter's role if I remember correctly.

Is there such thing as a brawler? I feel like I’ve heard of it. A vengeful townie & brawler (taking down an attacker) in the same role?

that doesn’t strike me as common @Natalija

 

[Ekkologix]

And what have you done besides pollute the thread with your tinfoil ideas?

I don’t think you’ve gotten a single like or agreed rating this game. Meanwhile I’m solving shit like I’m mystery inc. We are not the same, darling!

i just confirmed that hayumi was the one killing melkor, how is that polution?

how the fk r u sooooo daamn confident hayumi is vig??

ur not even questioning him???

scums get fake claims u know?? how the fk r u so confident man???

 

[Natalija]

Is there such thing as a brawler? I feel like I’ve heard of it. A vengeful townie & brawler (taking down an attacker) in the same role?

that doesn’t strike me as common @Natalija

I've seen it a couple of times before, so I wouldn't call it that rare. But hey, you have more experience

 

[Flower]

I'll believe Xebec's claim. Not too sure about it being town.

Still think scum is among Hero/Hayumi/Flowa 2.0. Admitting killing Melkor absolutely doesn't count as a town clear.

And going for a Usopp lynch is just too easy. It's what scum would push for with a good excuse.

It doesn't make sense for LM to be anything but a Vig kill.

 

[Natalija]

It doesn't make sense for LM to be anything but a Vig kill.

Or or that is what they want you to think.

 

[Hero]

i just confirmed that hayumi was the one killing melkor, how is that polution?

how the fk r u sooooo daamn confident hayumi is vig??

ur not even questioning him???

scums get fake claims u know?? how the fk r u so confident man???

1. Because my name is Hero

2. No one has counter claimed directly or indirectly.

 

[Ekkologix]

So... Because it fits your narrative of other players that he should be town... He should be town? That's kinda selfish, don't you think?

im not saying he should be town, but the bigger his wagon grows the more i lean town on him

dont change my words

 

[Melontonin]

It is not an uncommon mechanic. What hunter?

I kinda thought like the ToL hunter role, kinda like this https://epicmafia.fandom.com/wiki/Hunter

But now that you mention it, I've seen on here that there is a variant that can shoot the last person that votes for them, and can kill anyone in the nightphase following their lynch.

Only thing I don't get is why he said he only had one ability, and then "oops" no he has 2 abilities? Like his whole claim was delayed, idk I still feel off about it... It may change though.

 

[Hayumi]

I’m at work and it just got busy, but I’ll respond to this bs whenever I get off in a few hours

 

[Ekkologix]

Just clearing this up: any time the lynch goes to RNG, it will say so in the lynch writeup. Yesterday’s lynch did not go to RNG.

thank you

check fken mate ningens

 

[Flower]

Or or that is what they want you to think.

If so scums are pretty dumb because LM would be a very hot topic today.


And I just assume scums aren't dumb.

 

[Melontonin]

I don't know you.

I do know you you just have a different alias but your writing style is identical.

 

[Ekkologix]

thank you

check fken mate ningens

oh and let me add an emote to it

 

[Hero]

I also like how you’ve cleaned your posts of the bullshit. This is the Nat I’m familiar with @Natalija

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

I do know you you just have a different alias but your writing style is identical.

You are mistaking me for someone else.

 

[Natalija]

1. Because my name is Hero

2. No one has counter claimed directly or indirectly.

As they shouldn't lol, imagine a vig claiming. Would be extremely bad.

 

[Flower]

You are mistaking me for someone else.

No. You aren't fooling anyone.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

No. You aren't fooling anyone.

stfu

 

[Melontonin]

im not saying he should be town, but the bigger his wagon grows the more i lean town on him

dont change my words

... But that's exactly what you said. I'd never purposefully change words. That's exactly how I interpreted it from your first sentence.

 

[Natalija]

I also like how you’ve cleaned your posts of the bullshit. This is the Nat I’m familiar with @Natalija

LOL I was in a foul mood yesterday and I didn't wanna play mafia. I'm in a much better one now

 

[Ekkologix]

He said it was a passive. And then he mentioned Madara having only one ability, as his defense to me questioning him having no actives. So he clearly portrayed the idea that he had just a passive, and no active, and I'm calling you to make you realize what he's saying. Kinda odd how you're answering this now with his current explanation? Dodging?

no its just i am permanent 3 pages behind cuz god dem phone posting

ur basically talking to usopp from the past

 

[Vivo Diez]

I do know you you just have a different alias but your writing style is identical.

What is your main argument against Xebec again ?

 

[Hero]

As they shouldn't lol, imagine a vig claiming. Would be extremely bad.

Not as bad as a cop counter claim. But the thing is, I would have expected someone to build a case on Hayumi via posts and things he’s said in the thread. That would be an indirect indicator that Hayumi was lying without saying such. No one has done anything of the sort.

 

[Ekkologix]

@Dragon D Xebec who do u want gone the most today? one person

go

 

[Hero]

Or doctor. Counter claiming doctor is horrendous

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

@Dragon D Xebec who do u want gone the most today? one person

go

Cypher for building fake narrative and Melontonin for lying.

 

[Natalija]

If so scums are pretty dumb because LM would be a very hot topic today.


And I just assume scums aren't dumb.

Come on now, That's lame. We have a lot of potential lynches, we wouldn't need LM as a distraction.

I really dislike how you disregard possibilities so easily.

 

[Flower]

Usopp, why are you talking like you control the lynch?

 

[Flower]

Come on now, That's lame. We have a lot of potential lynches, we wouldn't need LM as a distraction.

I really dislike how you disregard possibilities so easily.

I'm not disregarding anything. But the whole focus on Hayumi is like Tunnel vision at this point and not helping anyone.

 

[Natalija]

I'm not disregarding anything. But the whole focus on Hayumi is like Tunnel vision at this point and not helping anyone.

And you don't see that the Xebec and Nessos thing you're doing is exactly that too?

 

[Melontonin]

As they shouldn't lol, imagine a vig claiming. Would be extremely bad.

True, I was sad that our vig got outed, but at the same time, Hayumi was gonna get a ton of heat for the info usopp revealed.

Plus what has Melkor done all of day 1? He has 20ish posts, read them and tell me that it doesn't make sense that Hayumi would vig him.