Game League of Legends Mafia

[Marco]

Are the role revealing really that usual these days? I remember when ppl didn't even reveal when they were about to get lynched.

Not really. Which is why waffles and Laix being on that list is really pointless. They're some of the very few known for it.

 

[Belphegoob]

Role revealing has very little value in this game, given that there are only 38 roles out of 129 total champions.

 

[Marco]

Role revealing has very little value in this game, given that there are only 38 roles out of 129 total champions.

That's not really the point though. Laix usually reveals himself via actions, "I attacked you why you still alive", "Looks like someone hit me with a kill last night.", etc. Waffles has a meta of not fakeclaiming.

 

[Stelios]

@Stelios: I don't think I've seen Waffle-kun be proactive for years. Given that you were scummates with him last game though, how would you read his mafia meta?

His today posts are turned 180 degrees away than kingmaker.

Yeah that's it, I'm getting a name change.

Don't deprive me from the joy of mistyping your name please!

 

[VoDe]

Role revealing has very little value in this game, given that there are only 38 roles out of 129 total champions.

Don't know about that, if someone says them they're like Caitlyn, Garen, Lux or Sona. You can pretty much expect them to be town.

 

[Marco]

Don't know about that, if someone says them they're like Caitlyn, Garen, Lux or Sona. You can pretty much expect them to be town.

Belph's point is how would you even know any and all of these roles even made into the game.

 

[VoDe]

Belph's point is how would you even know any and all of these roles even made into the game.

That's a good point, but by knowing Nitty. It's 100% guaranteed that some champs are in there.

 

[Laix]

I'm not feeling the shade coming my way

 

[Laix]

[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDe]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDE]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDe]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDE]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDe]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDE]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDe]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDE]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDe]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDE]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDe]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDE]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDe]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
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[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDe]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
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[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDe]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
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[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
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[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
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[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDe]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
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[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
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[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
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[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
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[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
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[VOTE LYNCH VoDe]
[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
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[VOTE LYNCH Marco]
[VOTE LYNCH VoDE]

 

[Belphegoob]

Been a while since I played with Laix, but even so I don't imagine he's so consistent about softclaiming that we can actually rely on it.

Or can we, Laix?

Anyways sate my curiosity, friends - who would be your choices right now to a) protect, b) investigate, and c) lynch?

 

[Franky]

Laix are you just bored or something?

 

[Laix]

Please lynch me

 

[Laix]

I should be so lucky
lucky lucky lucky
I should be so lucky in love

 

[sworder]

laix, psychic, vaenys seem townie to me

marco kinda too

that's my contribution from a skim of the thread

 

[sworder]

wait no not marco, i meant santi

how did i confuse them

chaos too tho

yes i'm blogging and will soon find scum, just a matter of time

 

[Belphegoob]

Anyways sate my curiosity, friends - who would be your choices right now to a) protect, b) investigate, and c) lynch?

This means you by the way, dear reader.

 

[Laix]

If you want to win you'll lynch me

 

[Laix]

That was a message to town, btw. If scum want to win they'll defend me and try not to get me lynched

 

[Laix]

 

[sworder]

[vote lynch Remchu]

Remchu, brotha, give me reason to believe you are town

Anyways sate my curiosity, friends - who would be your choices right now to a) protect, b) investigate, and c) lynch?

a) WAD
b) WPK
c) Remchu

 

[Belphegoob]

I did find the timing of Rem's vote onto Crescent Nyx funny, like he just started thinking policy lynch right away and then decided he could mentally check out.

Where are all my invisifags at?

 

[SinRaven]

I think WAD is scum

[vote lynch WAD]

Statistics. Also he's trying to me even more town leader than usual. A lot of his questions/suggestions/suspicions come across as forced.

 

[sworder]

I thought so too at first but then I thought that he wouldn't immediately start discussing policy lynches as scum exactly because of how scummy it would make him appear

but who knows

 

[Gogeta]

WAD would statistically have a high chance of being scum

But i read the thread (more or less) and Saturno looked like he slipped

[Vote Lynch Saturno]

 

[SinRaven]

WAD like always immediately discusses policy lynches.

However this time he has been more passive in his policy lynch stuff actually. Normally he'd just choose a target and lynch them. Now he wants people's opinions on it. Possibly so he can get them to vote for the policy lynch of their choosing and if they're lynched and flip town, it would seem like it wasn't all WAD.

 

[Psyche]

lol soft-defending. Why is she even on the policy lynch list?

Crescent has been forever town and although quiet, she's pretty useful with her abilities when she has them. I know she nailed quite a few mafia in the games I played with her so policy lynching her is just ridiculous.

by the way on a completely unrelated note

going full offtopic here

but anyone who plays who doesnt have me added should add me either on NA (Mifec) or EUW (1v1 me at baron)

added.

I did find the timing of Rem's vote onto Crescent Nyx funny, like he just started thinking policy lynch right away and then decided he could mentally check out.

Where are all my invisifags at?

I agree with Belphe so I'll put in my town list for now. Marco seems town this game but if he survives past night 3, I'm going to start to worry. Wad seems in a bit of a rush to proclaimed himself town. He's doing his usual policy lynches but seems to want us to pick up on it instead of him leading one as usual. All in all, he's acting too wad too fast. Definitely worth an investigation.

Everyone who posted so far seems town, like Sworder, Vaeny, Saturno. I'm a bit wary of Sin this game, there's just something about him. Add Alwaysmind to that list too

And yet, still others that are harder for me to read right off the bat :
Mr. Waffles, Santi, Legend.

Laix, are you anti-town?

Shark Skin, are you town?

 

[Mickey Mouse]

I immediately do not trust Gogeta.

 

[Shizune]

Incoming action

 

[SinRaven]

There is always something about me darling honey Psychic

 

[Vaeny]

Honestly based on all the stuff I've seen so far I think Saturno seems a lot more sketchy than WAD, not to say I find WAD to seem clean but Saturno seems like a more clear choice to me as of now so.

[change vote lynch Saturno]

 

[Shizune]

Pantheon used Grand Skyfall to land on post #180, superkilling Laix (???)!​

 

[Vaeny]

Holy riparonis boys.

 

[Stelios]

I'm not feeling the shade coming my way

wow there was a real hint there

 

[sworder]

>janitor kills

rip

 

[Mickey Mouse]

[ Change vote lynch WAD]

Not with me you are against me.

 

[Gogeta]

[ Change vote lynch WAD]

Not with me you are against me.

 

[Gogeta]

I immediately do not trust Gogeta.

Oh and i just saw this after my post. That's fine tbh, you are also pushing the limits of insanity and madness when reacting towards Marco so this is not really bad

 

[Stelios]

sounds like a plan
[Vote lynch wad]

 

[Vaeny]

Gogeta has always seemed like a sketchy person ever since I met him

 

[VoDe]

I'm trying to think if that Pantheon ability had any meaning, just cause "to land on #180 post"

Sounds kinda that it ain't targeted ability?

 

[VoDe]

I mean, it's targeted ability to that post, but not on the person (Laix) this time.

 

[Marco]

If the player chose the post after Laix made it, it wouldn't really make sense because then the player can just choose Laix and not a post by him. Barring purely flavor reasons, I believe it was more like a trap ability. The user set up a trap in advance, "Kill player who makes Post 180" and then when post 180 is made, the player dies.

 

[Laix]

Pantheon used Grand Skyfall to land on post #180, superkilling Laix (???)!

Spoiler:

FUCK OFF YOU LITTLE CUNT

YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANYONE APART FROM YOURSELF

ANYTHING I DO HE TALKS DOWN TO ME FOR

I TYPED A POST FOR ONE SECOND ONE SECOND

I'VE PLAYED GAMES WITH THAT FUCKING CUNT ALWAYS ON MY BACK

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST DONE NO YOu DON'T GET IT DO U U DONT KNOW WHO YOU'RE FUCKING WITH YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IM CAPABLE OF WHAT I CAN DO WHAT I CAN GET WHO I CAN GET WHEN I CAN GET

yoU AINT READY

 

[VoDe]

Am i going too deep on this? But cooldown of Skyfall is 150 at rank 1, 135 at rank 2 and 120 at rank 3.

So could be as simple as, after Pantheon has posted his first post of the day: someone dies 150 posts later?

 

[Marco]

Spoiler:

FUCK OFF YOU LITTLE CUNT

YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANYONE APART FROM YOURSELF

ANYTHING I DO HE TALKS DOWN TO ME FOR

I TYPED A POST FOR ONE SECOND ONE SECOND

I'VE PLAYED GAMES WITH THAT FUCKING CUNT ALWAYS ON MY BACK

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST DONE NO YOu DON'T GET IT DO U U DONT KNOW WHO YOU'RE FUCKING WITH YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IM CAPABLE OF WHAT I CAN DO WHAT I CAN GET WHO I CAN GET WHEN I CAN GET

yoU AINT READY

Is Laix a LoL player? If not, he probably had a pretty good role.

Am i going too deep on this? But cooldown of Skyfall is 150 at rank 1, 135 at rank 2 and 120 at rank 3.

So could be as simple as, after Pantheon has posted his first post of the day: someone dies 150 posts later?

Yep, that sounds very reasonable. It works because it's a trap skill and the post number is "chosen" in advance.

 

[Marco]

Though, cooldown refers to second use. And that requires a first use. So, just hitting a post 150 numbers after his post doesn't really make much sense in the context of cooldown.

 

[VoDe]

And superkill even more supports that.

 

[VoDe]

Yeah, but that is only way i could find that match. And in my tiny mind it made some sense.

Ability range is way too of the scale.

 

[VoDe]

Seems a bit far fetched but for now:

[Change Vote Lynch SinRaven]

 

[Psyche]

That was a message to town, btw. If scum want to win they'll defend me and try not to get me lynched

Pantheon used Grand Skyfall to land on post #180, superkilling Laix (???)!

The irony of that post 180.

Gogeta has always seemed like a sketchy person ever since I met him

Saturno is normally sketchy as well. Any particular reason why you find saturnine more sketchy than gogeta?

There is always something about me darling honey Psychic

I wouldn't say you're mafia but definitely leaning indie.

 

[Marco]

On wiking it, here's the description:

ACTIVE: Pantheon begins channeling for 2 seconds and, upon completing the channel, leaps into the air and becomes untargetable. He then blinks to the target location and plummets down, striking after 1.5 seconds and becoming targetable once more.
Enemies within the impact zone take magic damage, increased by up to 100% based on their proximity to the epicenter, and are Slow icon slowed by 35% for 1 second.

If the channel is cancelled, Grand Skyfall is put on a 10-second cooldown.

Instead of cooldown, it could just be a duration that relates the 2 seconds of channelling and 1.5 seconds of vanishing act.

 

[Shark Skin]

There would have to be a limit to that relative to this game though, wouldn't there? Because if we're going to be seeing superkills every 120-150 posts we're going to have major problems.

 

[Marco]

Yep, it could actually be an ability with cooldown (like once in 3 cycles) or just be a limited use ability. Even once per cycle is too much for an extra superkill, I'd say.

 

[Shark Skin]

Shark Skin, are you town?

Yes I am

 

[VoDe]

Instead of cooldown, it could just be a duration that relates the 2 seconds of channelling and 1.5 seconds of vanishing act.

It's a possibility too

There would have to be a limit to that relative to this game though, wouldn't there? Because if we're going to be seeing superkills every 120-150 posts we're going to have major problems.

That's why i said first post of the day. And maybe it "levels up" at day 6 and then day 11.

 

[Vaeny]

Saturno is normally sketchy as well. Any particular reason why you find saturnine more sketchy than gogeta?

The Gogeta comment is just a joke : D He hasn't said anything so far that I deem weird.

 

[sworder]

am I the only one a little uncomfortable with Marco posting so much? mostly because he's not usually this active as a townie so early since that makes him a big target, for good reason

 

[Stelios]

Laix had a protective role most likely. Pantheon is my main character at LoL and there's always shadow when he jumps. Hence his post at #170. I think Laix knew it and took the hit. With that said

• Do not discuss the game outside of the thread even after you die; you might come back to life.

Bring Laix back to life someone

 

[Vaeny]

It's a possibility too



That's why i said first post of the day. And maybe it "levels up" at day 6 and then day 11.

Honestly that seems like an overpowered ability if anything.

Unless you can hit yourself in which case you'd have to keep a track of what post you are posting.

 

[VoDe]

Honestly that seems like an overpowered ability if anything.

Unless you can hit yourself in which case you'd have to keep a track of what post you are posting.

Or other mafia members.

Also if it occurs every #150 posts and so, it would be an easy job to track down eventually.

I don't think it would be that overpowered (if that's only thing Panth does)

 

[Marco]

am I the only one a little uncomfortable with Marco posting so much? mostly because he's not usually this active as a townie so early since that makes him a big target, for good reason

Maybe I'm just trying to be target. Maybe targeting me would just be futile. So many options. But I just think it's because I've recently come across more free time than usual.

 

[Marco]

Or other mafia members.

Also if it occurs every #150 posts and so, it would be an easy job to track down eventually.

I don't think it would be that overpowered (if that's only thing Panth does)

That's too overpowered. A janitored superkill ever 150 posts mean that we'll have 10 such deaths by the time Post 1500. That's at least 5 times the maximum I'd expect.

And talking aids town, so mafia being rewarded for town talking more just doesn't sound right.

 

[Hack Snyder]

I'm going to read up. Just tied up atm. It's only five pages with my post count settings so that shouldn't be too difficult of a read.

 

[Marco]

I forget when you were killed, but do check the old thread too. The actions are all updated only in this thread though, that should help.

 

[Marco]

Oh I thought that was in my Jiraiya game.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

Oh and i just saw this after my post. That's fine tbh, you are also pushing the limits of insanity and madness when reacting towards Marco so this is not really bad

I find people who use this against me to always be up on the scum poll.

 

[Psyche]

Laix had a protective role most likely. Pantheon is my main character at LoL and there's always shadow when he jumps. Hence his post at #170. I think Laix knew it and took the hit. With that said



Bring Laix back to life someone

Why? Didn't Laix pretty much declared that she was hostile?

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

I am leaving for work right now and I'm not coming back for at least 12 hours. So I'll leave with this.

[vote no lynch]

I shouldn't have to explain myself but just in case, not lynching day one because we have no clue who might be who, and we'll most likely just hit town. And that's stupid.

Lets see who can spot what is actually scummy in this post.

Give me the bad touch.



The logic behind this is objectively more stupid.

Not Santi, who doesn't know what the actual meaning of objective is.

FP, you're kidding, right? This is the kind of thing some newb says. I mean, I could list out all the reasons why NLing day 1 would be a waste but you, of all people, should know them already.

Not Marco, who must consider Law and I newbs.

Someone is definitely mafia among:

"We're new, so we'll just follow suit" - Vae/Shy

No Lynch - familyparka

Soft-defending Crescent - Marco/Melodie

Saturno - Saturno.

One (or more) of you is definitely scum.

But who?

Not WAD.

Change Vote Familyparka

Reasoning should be obvious, he's the one I'd vote for with the "no lynch" move out of the guys with the most votes.

Not Franky.

Well this got interesting really quickly.

[Change Vote Lynch Familyparka]

Potentially VoDe.

No it used to be there couple years ago too. And usually that person doesn't care about the game cause they got a shit role or something.

Because surely you don't fly outside of the radar by saying that.

Though seemingly not, since he equates it more to having a bad role rather then being mafia. Mafia members generally don't care about the role they're personally assigned but the abilities of the faction as a whole.

You are an anecdote most of the times. I do find your vote on
saturno a little omgus "considering" the word play at hand.

Well look at that

Familyparka's no lynch post seems forced like "I m posting just to post and provide nothing for the next 12 hours". It would be better if you didn't make that post at all.

Belphenood a silent waffles scares me more than a proactive one

Stelios gets a half point. Both the promise of activity later and the preemptive defense of the post are much more scummy than a no lynch vote, which very rarely are made by mafia in my experience. Those who are quick to vote to lynch someone on the basis of a NL vote are much more likely to be mafia from what I've seen.

So lets see between Franky and VoDe. I'm not sure if Franky was around back when NL votes were more common, if scum he may just be working off of how everyone else is jumping on FP for it. VoDe was around and potentially knows how easy it is to get away with an easy vote on a person voting NL. Add in that he doesn't seem to even think its a scum tell but rather a townie with a bad role and I've found my D1 lynch target.

[Vote Lynch VoDe]

Reactions to NL votes are such great litmus tests.

Laix had a protective role most likely. Pantheon is my main character at LoL and there's always shadow when he jumps. Hence his post at #170. I think Laix knew it and took the hit. With that said


Bring Laix back to life someone

So are you suggesting that Laix got a PM from Nitty with a warning? On what basis would this PM have gone out?

Add me to the people who think you're better townie than mafia.

Marco is super useful for his note taking as a mafia teammate, has a mind for planning ability use/gambits and he blends in very well. As a townie yeah hes trustworthy and a voice of reason, though I'm not sure his scumhunting skills are enough to put his town game on par with his mafia game.

 

[Stelios]

So are you suggesting that Laix got a PM from Nitty with a warning? On what basis would this PM have gone out?

I'm not suggesting I'm pretty sure Laix knew this was coming.

When he's into retarded gif mode I skim his posts and often want to flame him for the posting the same gifs over and over again but in this case his posts from 170 and after can't be coincidence. At first I disregarded his shade post as fluff and didn't even made sense , something about casting shade to him aka shady but when pantheon killed him it made all sense.

 

[Stelios]

Since we are into a moba game mafia the warning Laix got could have been on the basis that he may have been a tank/support role that took the hit for town.

 

[Shark Skin]

IDK. I think Laix was just using shade in the way he usually uses shade. As in someone is having a go at him (since VoDe was saying he should be investigated). I don't think he was necessarily implying that he had an incoming attack.

 

[Gogeta]

I find people who use this against me to always be up on the scum poll.

I see. So when you go "Lynch marco lynch marco lynch marco" then it's all fine and dandy yet when anyone points it out suddenly they are suspicious and likely mafia

Do you not see the irony in you blaming others for playing the same game you are?

 

[Marco]

The VoDe angle seems promising. I think Gogeta is someone worth pressuring too.

[VOTE LYNCH VoDe]

 

[Marco]

On a side note, the argument for no lynch day 1 is old and applicable in some setups, but generally, it results in numerically having one less lynch. The thing usually used to fly better earlier because people didn't do a lot of meaningful participation day 1.

 

[Baroxio]

Checking in, will read up on thread.

I don't actually play LoL, but I have recently gotten into DOTA, which I hear is basically the same thing with pretty similar characters. That said, I'm not sure how much that knowledge will help me here.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

If Laix knew this was coming he'd have had to been informed in some manner. Meaning that the ability has a condition that says those who post in the 10-15 posts prior to the one that is going to be landed on get warned about it in some fashion. Seems weird you would suggest that, when no one else who was posting seemed aware of it. I guess the shade thing could seem indicative but this is Laix, he uses that kind of language constantly and sometimes without it even making sense in any context.

 

[Psyche]

town reads:

Belphegoob
Psychic
Superman
Shark Skin
Sworder
Melody
VoDe
Saturno

Scum reads :

WAD
Laix (claimed hostile)
Stelios
Gogeta
Remchu
Vaeny?

null reads:

WolfPrinceKiba
Legend
Alwaysmind
familyparka
Marco
hammer
Chaos
Josuke
Santi
Mr. Waffles

Indie reads :

Sinraven

psychic reads :

psychic powers says that shy is town. Vaeny mafia?
I sorta townread Vaeny and my psychic powers
are often better than my intuition.

People who need to posts:

Lord Genome
Firestormer
Franky
Degaforce
Crescent Nyx
Sarun
Viper
Persecuted
shy
ace
baroxio
atlantic storm

 

[Sarun]

Consider? That does not sound very affirmative. Are you or are you not, because from this post, you could be a pro town indie, which would explain why you would "consider" yourself as town.

What is the difference between town and pro-town indie that you need to discern? Quite seem to not too accusative post at Saturno while at the same time as calling him out like others did when he used "consider".

Or maybe Saturno didn't use consider properly. That is also a possibility.

Rather than responding to indie hunting accusation (since you assumed pro-town on Saturno, you are limited in response) you try to soft white knight.

Now Saturn's response to AlwaysMind got me thinking.

Yes I'm town...stop nit picking everything to make it in your favor.

This was in response to the first post I quoted.
"to make it in your favor" - what is in AM's favor. It is not like AM accused Saturno of being mafia or anti-town mafia.

I am not the one who said "I consider myself town" and it is not my fault synonyms of consider are:
But okay, I'll stop nit picking and actually scum hunt.

Doesn't not even challenge Saturno what Saturno is accusing him of putting in favor.


I'm thinking AM and Saturno had botched their interactions as mafia teammates (based on Saturn's post I quoted which doesn't make sense otherwise).

[Vote Lynch Saturno]

 

[Alwaysmind]

On a side note, the argument for no lynch day 1 is old and applicable in some setups, but generally, it results in numerically having one less lynch. The thing usually used to fly better earlier because people didn't do a lot of meaningful participation day 1.

Though a NL can become dangerous. Specially in a game with little leads. I remember a game where a no lynch was encouraged for 2-3 days straight while scums could basically lead the vote. So just like eating peanuts, once you start, it is hard to stop.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]