Hack Snyder
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I'm never wrong, FP.
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>implying i wasnt a counter-wagon to saturno
im very curious as to how that option fizzled?
So still no arguments? thought so
Go chat with your scum mates bro, come back when you got an actual defense on yourself.
Sorry Marco, I'm not falling for any of your good guy shit. I saw what you did on my Kingmaker game.
Town should see through it too, I mean that game ended like two days ago
Sup Marco, need to ask your QT how to react now?
Start a wagon on me and maybe I'd be inclined to defend.
If you really saw me in your Kingmaker game, you'd know I would never need pointers on how to react.
What if someone here has rage instead of mana and gets stronger for cursing?
Full circle.
[VOTE LYNCH Saturno]
I'll go with my first choice for the moment. At least FP stands to contribute at some point after he calms down. Or so I hope... Saturno won't at any point in the game be a positive influence as many have shared. I'm comfortable with this lynch.
are you saying you have an ability that depends on mana?![]()
Oh so you're comfortable with lynching the escape goat.
Good to know.
I could always hammer you if that's what you're indirectly asking for.
Uh wow, this game sure is starting off slow. Alright, let's see if I can kick things up a bit.
1.
belph
LG
Marco
Firestormer
Melodie
you 5 i consider to have the strongest town leading capacity out of everyone else on the list besides myself
but i want you all to imagine a hypothetical
where we have to policy lynch 1 of these 3: saturno, stelios, crescent nyx
who do you choose and why?
2.
Franky
Baroxio
Shy
Vae
ace
u 5 ive just not seen play mafia in a minute or in some cases we've never played together ever
tell me how you're going to post as a townie this game
i word it that way, because i am fully aware of the fact that if you're mafia you're gonna lie to me, but if you happen to read and acknowledge this post i suspect you're at least gonna pretend to have a presence in this game, so how do you specifically plan to play? proactive? reactive? etc.
But you do now, because you fell for my bait. Do you even realize where you screwed up?
I don't need to start a wagon, you'll slowly fall. Town will eventually see.
Their eyes will be opened, they'll all see through you crystal clear.
> Comes
> Tells me how stupid I am because you obviously are lynching mafia on day one
> Drops a random vote on an easy wagon and leaves
Sorry for not playing as good as you Marco
Geez I wonder what might happen if Saturn is actually town?
How long until phase end?
bout 7 hours i think
some people still haven't shown up yet and we have a number of people who haven't met the post quota
Wonderful play, FP. I'm being sarcastic but I really hope you're not town because this attitude/play as town would definitely make me lose respect for how you play.
As a host, I thought you'd be one of the few people particularly against things like this.
Lol fp, you wouldn't be breaking any cycle. If you're town, you're just making me put you in the tantrum and attention seeker list.
Have you always been a horrible player and I never noticed? Was Rion right? I find it hard to believe either.
Let me illustrate for those who still haven't got it
Here's what town Marco would have done:
Parka, voting no lynch on day 1 is not the most intelligent thing to do because of the following reasons (gives a large list of convincing reasons).
Here's what mafia Marco did:
UGH, Parka, voting for no lynch is totally stupid and I got like, a BAZILLION reasons as to why we should totally follow a random wagon on day 1, but I'm not posting a single one because of reasons.
You're such a bad player omg
Let me elaborate.
We all know Marco, we've seen him play tons of times. You should all pretty much know his base meta.
It all started with my "newbie mistake". Now, Town Marco would have used logic and reason to try to show me where I was wrong. He would try to educate town into becoming the better players, and carry each other into victory. Town Marco knows there's no point in fighting among ourselves, because that only distracts the players from the game itself and creates time and space for Mafia to confuse us.
Mafia Marco, however, looks for reactions. He doesn't care about logic nor reason, and specially, he doesn't care about townies learning a thing about the game. He just wants to piss you off so you lose your shit and get yourself lynched. And that's exactly what he did here. I mean just look at the way he engaged me in these particular posts.
I've never entertained tantrums. Yes, I'm one of the more patient people in this community but once people start making OGI threats and threatening to play to lose, I nope it out. Might have entertained some newbies because they don't know better but you're a veteran.
It's not a surprise I considered MODkilling a player in my game for not playing to win.
And now his attitude flips 180 degrees.
I'll repeat, I'm not buying your good guy bluff Marco. I know you're Mafia and I'll help town see it too
IMO this goes against the nature of the game. If a town is trolling then so be it, because there's just one step from that and MODkilling for being bad at the game.
Also you still haven't given me a single reason behind your Day 1 lynch
Come on Marco you didn't fall for that bait for one second, you just tried to make the most out of it.
Get the "troll" lynched, then justify it on the next day phase by saying "family was trolling, it was for the best"
Am I the only one seeing all this?
I'm not talking about Saturn, I'm talking about blindly lynching on Day 1 and actually expecting to hit mafia.
I mean just do the math, there's at the very least a 70% chance of killing town.
This is what I got:
Out of the Laix kill I can get this:
Belph and sworder are town following this reasoning: If the skill was targeted at a specific post number then the smart thing to do, if you know what's happening around that specific number, is to stop posting when the threads closes in that number. So I can put the people posting close to that number in a soft town read.
Stelios, you did mention the exact same number as the kill post. Try to refrain from posting numbers from now on. In fact, nobody should post a number above the current postcount. If Pantheon's skill is post targeted, it would be really easy to frame someone that just so happens to mention a number in a random post.
Out of the parka NL thing I got:
WPK made a good assessment of the thing that basically went unnoticed. The VoDe accusation was crafty, but made sense.
The only one who acknowledged this was Marco, but hopped wagons immediately after.
The other thing was people stating how they found parka's thing suspicious but not voting for parka until much after. Specifically Alwaysmind. He only casted a vote when the votecount came up and it showed a tie. Like he was trying to save WAD. I would link them together. VoDe too, but at least he had voted for parka before switching back.
Now parka is playing a gambit on Marco. This will be interesting. Let me give you a hand.
Marco, if someone came out tomorrow and said "I'm a cop, Marco is scum" what would you do?
WAD, what's your opinion on WPK's VoDe accusation and the Pantheon kill?
before i answer this
let me ask
how come u and parka haven't voted each other
did u guys stop doing that![]()
His interactions with you are really more of a null read to me Parka. Granted, I can't remember the last time I played with a Marco that was town but the mafia Marco that I know also wouldn't engage you this much, so meta reasoning isn't indicating scum to me.
My only personal reason for suspecting him was an ease of voting with me on VoDe but that is WolfParanoiaKiba talking. I have been distrustful of early backings of my lynch ever since I got manipulated by Kue in one of WAD'S generics long ago.
@dega, I can actually prove my role any time I want. So, if a player claimed guilty on me, I can deal with that easy enough.
This kinda sounds like a scum role tho
You're welcome to question the validity of it when I get around to it. Something tells me it'll leave no shadow of doubt.
We started doing blind trust in each other since the Psychic game.before i answer this
let me ask
how come u and parka haven't voted each other
did u guys stop doing that![]()
That's the same thing I was thinking. Laix had no idea it was coming because nobody could know who was posting on that exact post number.i had no idea
anyways i actually missed whatever wpk said about vode or considered it unimportant
i dont have any particular strong reads towards either of them atm so eh
as for the pantheon kill
why are people actually discussing it?
it specifically said its a kill on post #180 so why are the mechanics being questioned
i also think it sounds HELLA dumb for anyone to theorize that 'laix knew it was coming' because...if someone is alerted to a kill about to happen on a certain post #...why would they make sure they get that post number?
im also guessing that this ability was a one-shot because it was a super kill and because 'grand skyfall' is the name of pantheon's ultimate, im gonna go out and guess that anyone who has an ultimate for an ability has it as a one-shot (yea, not entertaining the idea of superkills by post number every day, nope.)
@dega, I can actually prove my role any time I want. So, if a player claimed guilty on me, I can deal with that easy enough.
Why should Marco have to explain why No Lynch is bad? With critical thinking it's self-evident. No explanations are necessary. Even more so in the case of experienced Mafia players like FP.
Degaforce said:That's the same thing I was thinking. Laix had no idea it was coming because nobody could know who was posting on that exact post number.
My ultimate is a oneshot, so ultimates being one shots makes sense.
That brings the question why use a one shot super kill so early into the game and why specifically on post 180.
Now that the game has progressed, what lynch would you advocate that's not Saturn/Nyx?
lol, don't ask questions just for the sake of asking them. I consider myself town because that's the alignment of my role.
Pantheon used Grand Skyfall to land on post #180, superkilling Laix (Shyvana)!
Shyvana
Wincon: eliminate the mafia & hostile independents
[Passive ? Rage] ? For every vote cast by another player against Shyvana, she will accumulate 1 rage. As Shyvana accumulates rage, she earns access to her abilities.
[3 Rage Active ? Burnout] ? During the day Shyvana envelops another player in her fiery aura, vote silencing them.
[5 Rage Passive ? Flame Breath] ? If Shyvana types her posts in all capitals, her votes will stack. If Shyvana switches her vote to another player or makes a post that isn?t in all capitals, her vote count will reset to 1.
[7 Rage Passive ? Dragonborn] ? Shyvana is bulletproof.
[10 Rage One Shot Active ? Dragon?s Descent] ? Shyvana assumes her dragon form, allowing her to superkill another player.
Who was at risk of getting lynched when laix died?
Was saturnos or parka that far in? If that's a one shot it might have been to use it before said person(if mafia) is gonna get lynched![]()
I see what you did there, but I still don't buy it.
That's all I wanted to hear.
I think you are barking at the wrong tree here, bro :shrug