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I have a few things I need to respond to but I just home from work so apologies. First things first, I am absolutely town, with the innocent alignment and I’m willing to give a full detailed description of my entire role if wanted despite being warned not to do so last round. I’m a little confused on why this suddenly makes me an SK/mafia when it was evident from last round that Sin also did a kill, and most of you who leaned toward believing my claim, also seemed to be neutral/town leaning on Sin.
Nothings changed, is it that hard to believe two townies can kill?? I understand the sus on me now, but townies also have to realize im a very easy push at the moment, as there’s no way to know for sure mechanically if there’s two “vigs” (even though this game doesn’t follow standard role arch types) and scum used that to their advantage by eliminating the one that they knew had less sus on them. Also, it’s possible scum actually does think I’m SK and really wants me lynched, but I’m one hundred percent not.

Secondly and most importantly, I didn’t target a single person last night as I only have a three shot kill, and if I use all three I’ll die the round after my third kill. So I wasn’t going to waste one of my kills when I wasn’t confident in shooting any actual scum. I also assumed there was a high probability I might get role blocked either way, due to Ussop’s continual sus on me and that I would have just wasted time.

Thirdly, based off of what I just read up on with melodies and nat’s claim, Hero seems very likely to be scum atm. I also notice how Hero was soft defending me by saying you all shouldn’t vote me for this round earlier, almost like he’s trying to establish that he’s “protecting me” but in reality he’s trying to leave sus on me in case he flips scum. OR he actually doesn’t want me lynched for some reason or another, as I can continue to be sussed for the next several rounds.

[Vote Lynch Hero]
 
Hayumi said:
I have a few things I need to respond to but I just home from work so apologies. First things first, I am absolutely town, with the innocent alignment and I’m willing to give a full detailed description of my entire role if wanted despite being warned not to do so last round. I’m a little confused on why this suddenly makes me an SK/mafia when it was evident from last round that Sin also did a kill, and most of you who leaned toward believing my claim, also seemed to be neutral/town leaning on Sin.
Nothings changed, is it that hard to believe two townies can kill?? I understand the sus on me now, but townies also have to realize im a very easy push at the moment, as there’s no way to know for sure mechanically if there’s two “vigs” (even though this game doesn’t follow standard role arch types) and scum used that to their advantage by eliminating the one that they knew had less sus on them. Also, it’s possible scum actually does think I’m SK and really wants me lynched, but I’m one hundred percent not.

Secondly and most importantly, I didn’t target a single person last night as I only have a three shot kill, and if I use all three I’ll die the round after my third kill. So I wasn’t going to waste one of my kills when I wasn’t confident in shooting any actual scum. I also assumed there was a high probability I might get role blocked either way, due to Ussop’s continual sus on me and that I would have just wasted time.

Thirdly, based off of what I just read up on with melodies and nat’s claim, Hero seems very likely to be scum atm. I also notice how Hero was soft defending me by saying you all shouldn’t vote me for this round earlier, almost like he’s trying to establish that he’s “protecting me” but in reality he’s trying to leave sus on me in case he flips scum. OR he actually doesn’t want me lynched for some reason or another, as I can continue to be sussed for the next several rounds.

[Vote Lynch Hero]
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yes nice essay breh

but we arent voting hero today

its you or melodie

so vote up melodie if u wanna live ningen :camby
 
Go D. Usopp said:
yes nice essay breh

but we arent voting hero today

its you or melodie

so vote up melodie if u wanna live ningen :camby
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Your play this game really is eerily similar to the ToG game where you played everyone as maf. Maybe you are actually town, but your reads are really off this time around, especially with me. Just like in ToG when we were in rival mafias, you tried to make me vote off whoever you happened to think was my scum mate at the time, despite not knowing if I was town or mafia.
 
Melodie said:
Nataljia, vive dude and Hero targeted Sin in the night phase. I watched him and sent him a message.

so

1. Nat is lying? she targeted him
2. vive targeted sin
3. Hero targeted sin
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ok wtf
who do we belive now lol
u or hero

and the fk vivo too?

Hayumi said:
Your play this game really is eerily similar to the ToG game where you played everyone as maf. Maybe you are actually town, but your reads are really off this time around, especially with me. Just like in ToG when we were in rival mafias, you tried to make me vote off whoever you happened to think was my scum mate at the time, despite not knowing if I was town or mafia.
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breh
 
Hayumi said:
I have a few things I need to respond to but I just home from work so apologies. First things first, I am absolutely town, with the innocent alignment and I’m willing to give a full detailed description of my entire role if wanted despite being warned not to do so last round. I’m a little confused on why this suddenly makes me an SK/mafia when it was evident from last round that Sin also did a kill, and most of you who leaned toward believing my claim, also seemed to be neutral/town leaning on Sin.
Nothings changed, is it that hard to believe two townies can kill?? I understand the sus on me now, but townies also have to realize im a very easy push at the moment, as there’s no way to know for sure mechanically if there’s two “vigs” (even though this game doesn’t follow standard role arch types) and scum used that to their advantage by eliminating the one that they knew had less sus on them. Also, it’s possible scum actually does think I’m SK and really wants me lynched, but I’m one hundred percent not.

Secondly and most importantly, I didn’t target a single person last night as I only have a three shot kill, and if I use all three I’ll die the round after my third kill. So I wasn’t going to waste one of my kills when I wasn’t confident in shooting any actual scum. I also assumed there was a high probability I might get role blocked either way, due to Ussop’s continual sus on me and that I would have just wasted time.

Thirdly, based off of what I just read up on with melodies and nat’s claim, Hero seems very likely to be scum atm. I also notice how Hero was soft defending me by saying you all shouldn’t vote me for this round earlier, almost like he’s trying to establish that he’s “protecting me” but in reality he’s trying to leave sus on me in case he flips scum. OR he actually doesn’t want me lynched for some reason or another, as I can continue to be sussed for the next several rounds.

[Vote Lynch Hero]
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Thing is, I find it so weird that you are still alive despite being an outed vigilante.

But I believe you for the moment.
 
Melontonin said:
Thing is, I find it so weird that you are still alive despite being an outed vigilante.

But I believe you for the moment.
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Well, I’m alive for NOW at least. It’s confirmed for me that the mafia are the ones who killed sin, as he obviously didn’t kill himself, and I targeted nobody.

Also, the best explanation I have for why is in the post you quoted. Keeping me alive is like a fallback sus. Because now I’m always going to have at least a little sus on me since sin’s flipped and I haven’t. Why get rid of me and end up throwing sus on some of the people shading me when some of them are definitely maf?
 
Hayumi said:
Well, I’m alive for NOW at least. It’s confirmed for me that the mafia are the ones who killed sin, as he obviously didn’t kill himself, and I targeted nobody.

Also, the best explanation I have for why is in the post you quoted. Keeping me alive is like a fallback sus. Because now I’m always going to have at least a little sus on me since sin’s flipped and I haven’t. Why get rid of me and end up throwing sus on some of the people shading me when some of them are definitely maf?
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i mean nobody tracked u nor roleblocked u, so its very convienient u come and say u didnt send an action

and its very convienient melodie says she watched sin but saw other people that are not you lol

ehh idk what to make of it tbh
 
Go D. Usopp said:
i mean nobody tracked u nor roleblocked u, so its very convienient u come and say u didnt send an action

and its very convienient melodie says she watched sin but saw other people that are not you lol

ehh idk what to make of it tbh
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That’s fair. But wait, how do you know nobody roleblocked me for sure? I don’t even know if I was roleblocked or not, I’m just assuming I was. My point was it wouldn’t have made a difference because I decided not to send in an action at all as it would have been a waste. I thought someone only gets notified their action was blocked if they tried sending in an action?
 
Hayumi said:
That’s fair. But wait, how do you know nobody roleblocked me for sure? I don’t even know if I was roleblocked or not, I’m just assuming I was. My point was it wouldn’t have made a difference because I decided not to send in an action at all as it would have been a waste. I thought someone only gets notified their action was blocked if they tried sending in an action?
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everyone and their mom pretty much claimed already lol

i asked if anyone roleblocked u at start if phase and none said they did

so...
 
Go D. Usopp said:
everyone and their mom pretty much claimed already lol

i asked if anyone roleblocked u at start if phase and none said they did

so...
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So wait wouldn’t that confirm for you I’m telling the truth? Nobody’s saying they roleblocked me, and I didn’t send in any action at all, meaning I didn’t kill sin, meaning I’m more then likely not mafia at the very least. Even if one of you thinks I’m mafia, why would that make sense for me to kill off the person who alluded to having a similar town kill role to my own?
 
John Wayne said:
With this many trackers it wouldn't be that strange for mafia to have an untrackable killer.
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thats what i was thinking about if Nitty does implement that in his previous games and that seems to be the case at least in his previous game.

I'm at a loss cause i came in to this day phase thinking mel and ali are scum and I'm questioning my reads again.

nothing makes sense of how d1 lynch happened between hayumi and cypher
 
Hayumi said:
So wait wouldn’t that confirm for you I’m telling the truth? Nobody’s saying they roleblocked me, and I didn’t send in any action at all, meaning I didn’t kill sin, meaning I’m more then likely not mafia at the very least. Even if one of you thinks I’m mafia, why would that make sense for me to kill off the person who alluded to having a similar town kill role to my own?
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idk about that. we have only 1 kill tonight and 2 town roles with kill abilities died this game

ur telling me nitty has 3 towns with killing abilities?

i also told u to vig poket god but i guess its fair u didnt hit him since kvothe subbed in and i think kvothes town from her play today
 
Go D. Usopp said:
idk about that. we have only 1 kill tonight and 2 town roles with kill abilities died this game

ur telling me nitty has 3 towns with killing abilities?

i also told u to vig poket god but i guess its fair u didnt hit him since kvothe subbed in and i think kvothes town from her play today
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It could be, but like I said mechanic wise it’s impossible to know for sure how many of what there is, making a push on me super convenient for scum. At the very least, all the rule details and ins and outs of the kill abilities have been pretty different for everyone. They’ve also already proven detrimental to town as a lot of townies have been killed anyways, and me and sin both targeted players who ended up flipping town. So if anything having this many townies with killing abilities has worked against us so far.

And yah, I did consider shooting Pocket/Kvothe like you mentioned, but you had also said how you wanted me roleblocked so I didn’t think it would matter either way. Also, based off of how there was three confirmed kills two rounds ago, and I can essentially be confirmed as the one who killed melkor thanks to your passive, that should again clear me of being mafia. Because mafia killing Melkor would have truly been a completely stupid move and would have made no sense from any logical perspective in my honest opinion. He had a lot of sus on him, and there was something going on between me and him supposedly, so that’s why I wanted to see his flip. In reality, I helped eliminate a potential mafia candidate. The real mafia one hundred percent killed sin last night.

It’s a more likely possibility for me to be SK yes, since nobody has any way of knowing nitty’s exact setup, but I can give and have been willing to give some very detailed descriptions of my role, and it would be weird to disclose all this unwanted info if I had a lot to hide. There’s also a chance there is no SK, as we already had one indie confirmed in nessos. There hasn’t been more then three kills so far, and there’s one other confirmed town “vig” in sin, so if there is an SK, I know he hasn’t killed anyone yet, and it’s getting pretty late into the game so that’d be odd af if there was actually one.
 
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