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A little less than 25% of all Aes Sedai are Black Ajah-affiliated in the novels.

As for the other point, there are no requirements to join any Ajah except the Yellow, which requires a sister to have some skill in Healing. So we should not assume that someone's abilities will reflect their chosen Ajah's mission.

Interesting.

While there may not be strict requirements to join the Green Ajah, those who do are held to certain standards and expectations.

No men-hating prudes (reds), and you're going to have to get your hands dirty and fight. That is what it means to be Green.
 
I have 0 flavour knowledge.
I just wanna know one thing.

Is Black Ajah a hidden Ajah that infiltrated the other Ajahs or do people of other Ajah became black Ajah.

Are black Ajah a real faction or are they Like everyone else but just not following the rules?

Secret group of baddies. Some started out bad and pretended to be good to join. Some were recruited/seduced while inside.

Classic story of "come to the dark side".
 
I have 0 flavour knowledge.
I just wanna know one thing.

Is Black Ajah a hidden Ajah that infiltrated the other Ajahs or do people of other Ajah became black Ajah.

Are black Ajah a real faction or are they Like everyone else but just not following the rules?
Members of other Ajahs who later aligned with the Shadow (forces of evil) became known collectively as the Black Ajah. They do function like a regular Ajah, with their own leadership, spy network, etc. Just in secret.

The White Tower goes to great lengths to hide the existence of the Black Ajah from the rest of the world to preserve its reputation.
 
Secret group of baddies. Some started out bad and pretended to be good to join. Some were recruited/seduced while inside.

Classic story of "come to the dark side".
I am questioning this, because I think we might be able to confirm up to 7 Towns Day 1. Especially when there is a distribution like you suggested.


I know there is a White Ajah passive. Thus I expect all Ajahs have a passive.

My question do we have to expect that Black Ajah have only Black Ajah passive or also the passive of the Ajah they act to be there?
 
I am questioning this, because I think we might be able to confirm up to 7 Towns Day 1. Especially when there is a distribution like you suggested.


I know there is a White Ajah passive. Thus I expect all Ajahs have a passive.

My question do we have to expect that Black Ajah have only Black Ajah passive or also the passive of the Ajah they act to be there?

I am sure it’s not that simple.
 
I am questioning this, because I think we might be able to confirm up to 7 Towns Day 1. Especially when there is a distribution like you suggested.


I know there is a White Ajah passive. Thus I expect all Ajahs have a passive.

My question do we have to expect that Black Ajah have only Black Ajah passive or also the passive of the Ajah they act to be there?
Can confirm from the Red passive that it would only work if all Red sisters had it. Assuming there is a Black among the Red, she would have the Red passive and the Black passive (if such exists).
 
I am questioning this, because I think we might be able to confirm up to 7 Towns Day 1. Especially when there is a distribution like you suggested.


I know there is a White Ajah passive. Thus I expect all Ajahs have a passive.

My question do we have to expect that Black Ajah have only Black Ajah passive or also the passive of the Ajah they act to be there?

Not going to work like that. I wouldn't assume all ajahs have a passive.
 
look at the ajahs below,

1. green might have 0 scums because the captain general is there and it probably has some vigs or smthing

2. scum could have a:
roleblocker/punisher = red ajah scum
role cop = brown ajah scum
godfather = grey ajah scum

if there r more scum they could be anywhere.

3. an indie could be blue/white, or a possible yellow witch that does reverse healing or smthing

i dont read the series so idk, but keep these ajah info for reference:

Spoiler:


The Red Ajah focuses on castigating the wrong and dangerous use of the One Power, which mostly consists of capturing male channelers and bringing them to the Tower for gentling. Their leader's title is Highest.


The Green Ajah is also called the 'Battle Ajah.' Green Sisters stand ready for the Last Battle. They are the second largest Ajah, and their leader's title is Captain-General.


The Gray Ajah practices diplomacy and mediation in politics. They are the third largest Ajah, and their leader's title is Head Clerk.


The Brown Ajah gathers and preserves knowledge. They are the fourth largest Ajah, and are governed by are a ruling council, the head of which is the First Chair.


The Yellow Ajah is dedicated to healing. They are the fifth largest Ajah, and their leader's title is First Weaver. Sisters with great talent for healing usually join the Yellow.


The Blue Ajah pursues causes of righteousness and justice. They are the sixth largest Ajah, and their leader's title is First Selector.


The White Ajah studies logic and philosophy. They are the smallest Ajah, and their leader's title is First Reasoner.
 
I don't expect the individual Ajah passives to be similar at all, but I definitely expect each Ajah to have one and I don't think it's a stretch at all.

:catshrug

Well, I'm not saying it was a completely dumb assumption. It's just not the case.

look at the ajahs below,

1. green might have 0 scums because the captain general is there and it probably has some vigs or smthing

2. scum could have a:
roleblocker/punisher = red ajah scum
role cop = brown ajah scum
godfather = grey ajah scum

if there r more scum they could be anywhere.

3. an indie could be blue/white, or a possible yellow witch that does reverse healing or smthing

i dont read the series so idk, but keep these ajah info for reference:

Any Ajah could have been voted Amyrlin Seat. Unless black ajah *are* completely random, they wouldn't be based on who was chosen Amyrlin.

Again, not a huge likelihood of Indie in this game.

Series lore heralds green and red as the most likely to have black sisters.

So logic tells me I have between John Wayne and Aizen to keep an eye on.
 
I started to read some of the first book while in work. I was bored, very descriptive.

I get down from my noble steed, a modest brown cloak around me. Raising my hand to salute the rest of the people gathered here today.

"Greetings, brothers and sisters! It is I a member of town, Rem Yellow Ajah. May my words be of comfort and a cornerstone on which we may ultimately rout the rot among us. We will bicker and quarrell this day, but the fruit of our labor will be the enemy's head. I am town my brothers and sisters."

*bows*
 
I started to read some of the first book while in work. I was bored, very descriptive.

I get down from my noble steed, a modest brown cloak around me. Raising my hand to salute the rest of the people gathered here today.

"Greetings, brothers and sisters! It is I a member of town, Rem Yellow Ajah. May my words be of comfort and a cornerstone on which we may ultimately rout the rot among us. We will bicker and quarrell this day, but the fruit of our labor will be the enemy's head. I am town my brothers and sisters."

*bows*

Remchu, a memeber of the Black Ajah has been modkilled for lying and breaking his vows to never lie :judgepepe
 
i think its a target that scum has to kill to win

not sure how it would work tho, but its sm1 that we must protect

unless wad was implying he could be the lynchpin, or scum get to choose sm1 else as lynchpin

basically we gotta be wary of randomly lynching ppl


Interesting theory, but obviously it would not be Amyrlin that would be the scum's designated target, it would be too easy. Anyway, Mafia having to kill one person to win sounds definitely too random to me....

To be fair, I think it makes most sense to vote a red or green today.

[Vote Lynch A I Z E N]

Rooting out the corruption from my own ranks first.

Are you just following Wad's reasoning here, or you do you have ideas on your own? You seem genuine from your first impression, but I recall you are very convincing as scum from the previous Nitty game.

Nah there's prob a group of black ajahs made already and just not known to us

That is already quite obvious, isnt' it Sherlock? Are you on your coasting scum meta?


[Vote Lynch Lord Genome]

Just voting, without any thoughts.... do you think Lord Genome is on his scum meta, you know him well?

look at the ajahs below,

1. green might have 0 scums because the captain general is there and it probably has some vigs or smthing

2. scum could have a:
roleblocker/punisher = red ajah scum
role cop = brown ajah scum
godfather = grey ajah scum

if there r more scum they could be anywhere.

3. an indie could be blue/white, or a possible yellow witch that does reverse healing or smthing

i dont read the series so idk, but keep these ajah info for reference:

Spoiler:






















Are you role fishing? I do not think we should claim at this point, it does not look like roles were designated to be obviously alignment indicative. But people with cop-like roles, please do not claim at this stage!

But I can confirm Browns seem to have passive as well.

I think Xebec is unlikely to be Mafia, his confusion about setup would be hard to fake.
 
Are you just following Wad's reasoning here, or you do you have ideas on your own? You seem genuine from your first impression, but I recall you are very convincing as scum from the previous Nitty game.

Following what? You seem to be mistaken that I'm following anyone's lead. You need to pay better attention. I was first to have these assertions and asked others for their thoughts.
 
also im not rly liking the way tiger is softly taking the focus away from white/blue ajah to green/red

wouldnt be too far fetched to say he has atleast one scumbuddy on white/blue (if he was scum)

at the same time, hes trying to narrow down the number of ppl on his green ajah which could help us with PoE

I quoted this earlier, but you didn't respond.

What focus on white/blue? I've been talking about Green especially since the start.

I also said there is likely one mafia from white/blue.

What focus am I "softly taking away from"? This was a weak attempt at shade. From someone in red that I was apparently gunning for to take focus away from others.

Your vote is on WPK, whom you've been gunning for since before the game started? Is that the focus on white/blue?

I need your reasoning.
 
Are you role fishing? I do not think we should claim at this point, it does not look like roles were designated to be obviously alignment indicative. But people with cop-like roles, please do not claim at this stage!

But I can confirm Browns seem to have passive as well.
idk what part of that seemed fishing to u lmao

ur back to being kinda fake tbh :hm

I quoted this earlier, but you didn't respond.

What focus on white/blue? I've been talking about Green especially since the start.

I also said there is likely one mafia from white/blue.

What focus am I "softly taking away from"? This was a weak attempt at shade. From someone in red that I was apparently gunning for to take focus away from others.

Your vote is on WPK, whom you've been gunning for since before the game started? Is that the focus on white/blue?

I need your reasoning.

you see it was speculated that all ajahs could have scum, or atleast equally random

but to me it seemed like you are only mostly focusing on the green/red ajahs, when they r both = 8/21 players

it does make sense yes, but I do not like giving white/blue a free pass just cuz its a 2 member each.

I read nessos as town and I think WPK has to be seriously looked at. I'm not saying Aizen or JW dont have to be looked at, but the chances of them being scum on the same ajah as the general captain is low, specially since its green (unlikely to house a scum role if the roles followed the ajah descriptions as I outlined earlier)

on the other hand, I definitely think there is scum amongst red/grey/brown. I'm not so sure about green at this point, but possible (just not prio imo)
 
idk what part of that seemed fishing to u lmao

ur back to being kinda fake tbh :hm



you see it was speculated that all ajahs could have scum, or atleast equally random

but to me it seemed like you are only mostly focusing on the green/red ajahs, when they r both = 8/21 players

it does make sense yes, but I do not like giving white/blue a free pass just cuz its a 2 member each.

I read nessos as town and I think WPK has to be seriously looked at. I'm not saying Aizen or JW dont have to be looked at, but the chances of them being scum on the same ajah as the general captain is low, specially since its green (unlikely to house a scum role if the roles followed the ajah descriptions as I outlined earlier)

on the other hand, I definitely think there is scum amongst red/grey/brown. I'm not so sure about green at this point, but possible (just not prio imo)

In my deduction post, I listed white/blue as having a black sister amongst the four players. Miss that?

No reason to mention WPK until he posts, unless he never does.
 
In my deduction post, I listed white/blue as having a black sister amongst the four players. Miss that?

No reason to mention WPK until he posts, unless he never does.
yes i got that part

but isnt it better to try and hit a 1/4 scum in blue/white

than a possible 1/7 scum in green/red?

if anyone in green is scum it's probably u. If any1 in red is scum i'm thinking LG or maerala

Well, it seemed to me like you wanted cops to claim, not good idea.
oh i think u missunderstood the post

i was talking about scum having a cop on brown ajah
and probabaly a roleblocker on red
and their GF on grey

they could also have a witch role that protects them and do some curses to players, thats from yellow ajah

this would mean blue/white house an indie or 5th scum amongst them
 
yes i got that part

but isnt it better to try and hit a 1/4 scum in blue/white

than a possible 1/7 scum in green/red?

if anyone in green is scum it's probably u. If any1 in red is scum i'm thinking LG or maerala


oh i think u missunderstood the post

i was talking about scum having a cop on brown ajah
and probabaly a roleblocker on red
and their GF on grey

they could also have a witch role that protects them and do some curses to players, thats from yellow ajah

this would mean blue/white house an indie or 5th scum amongst them

I thought you were basing it on theory that each Ajah has similar type of abilities - for example X Ajah investigative, Y protective etc...

Anyway goodnight.
 
Given the setup, it is unlikely there are Indies.
I am leaning towards that as well which makes me think it's closer to 5 v 16 but 4 v 17 is a possibility depending on the power of the roles.
Secret group of baddies. Some started out bad and pretended to be good to join. Some were recruited/seduced while inside.

Classic story of "come to the dark side".
As for the lore people, which Ajah started out bad and which ones were recruited?
 
I am leaning towards that as well which makes me think it's closer to 5 v 16 but 4 v 17 is a possibility depending on the power of the roles.

As for the lore people, which Ajah started out bad and which ones were recruited?

No Ajah started bad. Some individuals started bad. Think of us all like lady wizards. Some bad lady wizards joined the tower pretending to be good...others were recruited while already there.
 
What pointed you in this direction bro!?:shocked



This as well bro

I’m curious! I really am! What did you see to make these type of claims?

> Jw seems straight up town from the way hes talking, but would need to see more
> Aizen is afk so null on him
> tiger is a bit pushy now. he has flavor knowledge tho, but If anyone on green is scum, id lean more to it being him. Not saying he is scum tho cuz i genuinely don't think green has any tbh

> maerala is straight up fishing for faction passives
> i soft read cypher as town for now, so the last red is LG who i'm not feeling too good about, specially after the random melodie vote

> I read nessos as the most town out of blue/white and if WPK doesnt speak by the end of this phase or next one, he has to simply go. Thats y I wanted to give him the amyrlin seat position.

sht's gna get depressing if hes alive with barely any messages in a long game. atleast pressure vote him up to talk.
 
If we can get someone from each Ajah to confirm that they all have a passive then we can lynch Tiger Sedai for being a lying Black bi---- ... ahem, sister. If they do not, then she can be exonerated.

@Kvothe Kingkiller Terry Sedai, tell me truly. Does the Blue Ajah have a passive ability?
Yes.. I certainly do but that is not alignment indicative if one has a passive or not.
 

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