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Natalija said:
No Tiger, it's Usopp who did this.
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Usopp used the vow lying mechanic. And mafia probably raged in their QT to Nitty making him feel pressured to go against his own rules and fuck with the game.

What Usopp did was lame.
What Nitty did is interference.

I'm really damned disappointed in everyone right now.

I will make it easy. Mafia-- I have to use my role-block tonight, I can't hide. So come at me. Doctors, don't bother. Watchers, watch me if you like. I'm going to try and actively stop a kill. If not meh.
 
Natalija said:
You know what, Flowa? I believe you. I don't think you're the mafia.
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You believe her because she is argumentative or other reasons?

Regarding cop being in game, it would be a strange game indeed without cops and vigs, though it seems that there are a lot of lesser investigative abilities based on roles we seen so far.

I still have 4 pages to catch, but since I am a bit distracted decided to reply to points as I go.
 
Natalija said:
You know what's interesting?

Hero said Usopp visited DDL and he denied it.
I said Ishmael visited Cypher, and Ish denied it.


There is a pattern here. They were either controlled or the setup is... Making us wrong on purpose to confuse so many trackers?
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With so many invests I can see invest manipulation. Track me next NP. We gotta make sure I get the right target. They can't confuse both of us, right?
 
Ishmael said:
No. Hero was fucked with the same way I’ve said I was the time Nataly accused me of RBing cooler. There’s something giving false results.
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Dragon D Xebec said:
Hero result on D one is legit. I, Melodie and Sigismund targeted DDL. But his result on Usopp wasn't right. Is there some sort of manipulation here?
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Yeah, something is clearly off with the results.

Maybe that's why everyone and their dogs are trackers.
 
Pool Party Nitty said:
@Go D. Usopp I am very disappointed by your attempt to abuse game mechanics, especially after I specifically asked everyone to stop flirting with modkills. I understand that you are frustrated, and I believe you're acting out of frustration rather than out of maliciousness, so I'm not holding this against you personally and I hope you won't take it personally. However, in these kinds of situations, it is critical for the host to penalize abusive behavior so that it doesn't happen again - in this game or in future games. I hope this will instill a greater respect for game rules.

Usopp is being removed from the game, but not by modkill. I am locking him in as today's lynch. Usopp was innocent. Here is his role:



The phase will remain open to discussion for the remainder of its duration, but there will not be another lynch today.​
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HE's the lynch??


baaaaaaah i don't get it.

@everyone in town so Cypher is scum?
or do u think she would have flipped town and it would have been a -2 to town.

Bah terrible.
 
Lord Melkor said:
You believe her because she is argumentative or other reasons?

Regarding cop being in game, it would be a strange game indeed without cops and vigs, though it seems that there are a lot of lesser investigative abilities based on roles we seen so far.

I still have 4 pages to catch, but since I am a bit distracted decided to reply to points as I go.
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Erm because of how she's playing, this is how she acts as town.

But this situation is making me think I ain't right. What if this setup doesn't have a cop at all?
 
Natalija said:
You know what's interesting?

Hero said Usopp visited DDL and he denied it.
I said Ishmael visited Cypher, and Ish denied it.


There is a pattern here. They were either controlled or the setup is... Making us wrong on purpose to confuse so many trackers?
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Ishmael said:
No. Hero was fucked with the same way I’ve said I was the time Nataly accused me of RBing cooler. There’s something giving false results.
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Dragon D Xebec said:
Hero result on D one is legit. I, Melodie and Sigismund targeted DDL. But his result on Usopp wasn't right. Is there some sort of manipulation here?
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That’s the confusing part. Why were my Night 1 results fine & Night 2 with Usopp incorrect? How can we verify that even Night 1 was even correct if there’s the potential of manipulation.
 
Natalija said:
That's fine. I never care if I'll die or not :catflower
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It's my one game this year, so I was kinda amped to do well and survive it.

And if I'm the reason town loses because I guaranteed there was mafia in red and green and I was wrong-- it will feel bad.

But hey, as I said-- I can't defend myself tonight. I have to use my role-block. I don't want to be protected. I want to try and block the killer. But if someone wants to watch, that's their call.
 
Tiger said:
Usopp used the vow lying mechanic. And mafia probably raged in their QT to Nitty making him feel pressured to go against his own rules and fuck with the game.

What Usopp did was lame.
What Nitty did is interference.

I'm really damned disappointed in everyone right now.

I will make it easy. Mafia-- I have to use my role-block tonight, I can't hide. So come at me. Doctors, don't bother. Watchers, watch me if you like. I'm going to try and actively stop a kill. If not meh.
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Well, Usopp broke rules on purpose, but having to lynch Cypher again tomorrow will he be hella annoying. We should have a vig to deal with Cypher so we can lynch someone else.

And I think you are town now, I get your ability. It makes JW only unconfirmed green right and he voted Usopp now, so does not look good. As do Nessos, Natalija Melodie and WPK who did not want to lynch Cypher this phase. Any thoughts on this?
 
Lord Melkor said:
Well, Usopp broke rules on purpose, but having to lynch Cypher again tomorrow will he be hella annoying. We should have a vig to deal with Cypher so we can lynch someone else.

And I think you are town now, I get your ability. It makes JW only unconfirmed green right and he voted Usopp now, so does not look good. As do Nessos, Natalija Melodie and WPK who did not want to lynch Cypher this phase. Any thoughts on this?
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I don't think a vig exists, RIP
 
In case I die tonight. I am a Watcher.

N1: Maerala -> Noone visited her
N2: Natalija -> was visited by WPK


About N1 Maerala was a shot in the dark. My tinfoil theory started Day 2 after I realized the lynch wasn't redirected, but ended in RNG.

About N2 slowly started to believe Natalija making Maerala my top suspects of these 2. Thought scum might attemp to kill Natalija to throw shades on my tinfoil theory.
 
Go D. Usopp said:
im not abusing game mechanics. i just lied. im not stupid

i also lied yesterday telling xebec i can protect u

i do not like this from u nitty
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Yes you are. "Self-modkill" is not a normal part of the mafia game and is also borderline cheating. Also targetting known townies with negative abilities is game throwing. That stuff is the equivallent of flipping a board game table because you don't want to lose.

You need to learn to deal with the fact that people won't always agree with you.
 
Pool Party Nitty said:
Announcement

I stand by my decision about Usopp, but I also agree that it had negative consequences on the game, and that other people are being punished for his mistake.

As recompense, tomorrow there will be two lynches.

You have an hour left in this phase to begin planning how you will use those lynches.​
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Thanks!

Rating you winner since town never does and mafia is gonna be too afraid to do it now that I called them out on that :zaru
 
Day 4 start - RemChu is murdered
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    • Remchu was murdered last night. He was innocent.
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    Remchu Sedai, of the Yellow Ajah

    [Active - Delving] -     During the night you can sense the usage of the Power on another player, learning the effects of any magical abilities used against them.

    [Active - Healing] - During the night you can protect another player against kills.    ​
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    There will be two lynches today, and every player can vote in both lynches. In other words, everyone has two votes today, one for each lynch. The commands are as follows:

    [vote lynch] or [change vote lynch] for the first lynch

    [vote lynch 2] or [change vote lynch 2] for the second lynch

    Day 4 start. You may now post.    ​
     
    Shizune


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