Game The Wheel of Time: Trouble in Tar Valon (mafia wins!)

[Tiger]

No, wait, you said you had two actives...

I've literally explained both of my actives numerous times.

 

[Natalija]

I've literally explained both of my actives numerous times.

Yeah, sorry, forgot. Playing too many games

 

[Tiger]

But yes, my 2nd active is the same as Usopp's. That's one of the reasons I finally let it be known that I couldn't just keep using my defense indefinitely. Anyone could see it would be the same from his role.

 

[Hero]

Man discussion has halted...

 

[Natalija]

Okay then Tiger. Let’s try it your way, even though I think it’s weird that you have two actives.

[Unvote]

[vote lynch Cypher]
[vote lynch 2 Juan]

 

[Tiger]

Okay then Tiger. Let’s try it your way, even though I think it’s weird that you have two actives.

[Unvote]

[vote lynch Cypher]
[vote lynch 2 Juan]

My way? I'm not voting Juan.

Also, I'm certainly not the only one with two actives and no passive.

 

[Tiger]

But you know that, because we've all seen Kue's role, and JW has stated the same. Also, DDL has stated he has two actives.

Why suspicious of my abilities, then?

 

[Natalija]

My way? I'm not voting Juan.

Also, I'm certainly not the only one with two actives and no passive.

I mean you achieving your desired long-lived game

I changed my mind

 

[Natalija]

But are mafia really the inactive ones

 

[Juan]

Okay then Tiger. Let’s try it your way, even though I think it’s weird that you have two actives.

[Unvote]

[vote lynch Cypher]
[vote lynch 2 Juan]

 

[Melodie]

Lie.



Why wouldn't we? lmao



She definitely didn't target me.



Nope.

@Melodie @Nessos @WolfPrinceKiba @Juan

Any of you four role-blocked last night?

nah

 

[Melodie]

if lynch voting is so good why is there no lynch voting 2.

oh wait...revolutionary nitty.

 

[Lord Melkor]

[Vote lynch Cypher]

[Vote lynch 2 Tiger]

I do not like you vote Tiger without any explanation. You were pretty inactive this game other than voting. At least Tiger is contributing a lot.

@Ishmael targeted you

Interesting, was it healing? Would three healers in the game be too much if all yellow are healers? But this setup seems to be non standard anyway. No vig and if Cypher is lying and scum town may not even have standard cop? Instead there seem to be a lot of watchers, trackers etc.

Because I'm honestly tired of this at this point since it leads us to f***ing nowhere.

Well, we need to clear this mess about you and it is not like your lynch is not going to bring us information. You were main wagon three days int the row and I am pretty sure Nessos is scum if you are. He has you on ignore, yet pushes the same narrative as you?

As stated last phase, I think the best lynches are JW & Cypher.

@Dragon D. Luffy Did you block JW again tonight? Remchu is also an interesting choice for a faction kill. I didn’t get the impression he was a thread leader during my short time here

I think Remchu was a safe kill if Mafia was in fear of being observed, look how many watcher and trackers and similar roles there are, though I wonder if all of them are town.

 

[Lord Melkor]

[Vote Lynch Cypher]

[Vote 2nd lynch John Wayne]

I am willing to give Tiger benefit of the doubt for now.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Rest of my list: You, Nessos, Melodie, Juan.

I quite like this list.

Any opinions of Sigi and WPK?

I think there are too many watcher and trackers for all of them to be town.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

@Melodie @Nessos @WolfPrinceKiba @Juan

Any of you four role-blocked last night?

I wasn't roleblocked.

Catching up now.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

[Vote Lynch Tiger]

Got my first guilty result.

This claimed scan makes sense from any angle, and is obvious enough a choice that even if both you and Tiger are town, if mafia has any kind of redirecter or bus driver they'd have manipulated this result.

Also, Meara is likely Tiger's scum buddy because she unvoted the role crush on him like 4 minutes before EoD last DP.

If Cypher is scum, Maerala is cleared except maybe in a world where Cypher, Tiger and Maerala are all scum together...which is possible but not probable. I don't think Tiger would waste a resource not having them rolecrush someone when they had majority.

I didn't see you visiting Melodie

Unless Brown Ajah is immune to watcher. We have to expect Natalija is lying.

Nataj has claimed to be a tracker, they only would be shown visiting those they target, not those that they target, target. I can confirm that Nataj targeted you and LM.

But I was correct about Xebec & Melodie & Sigs targeting DDL.

Xebec & Melodie targeted him again which they confirmed. Usopp was apparently wrong. I’ve been wrong once

That one time being wrong did allow Cypher to escape the noose one more time though...you are helping to nail her coffin shut with your watcher claim on Tiger, though I can't say a Cypher scum flip now entirely confirms you, given that the chances of preventing her lynch a fourth time with two lynches available are astronomically low.

Can't we just forget about results and just go by reads?

You weren't singing that tune earlier when announcing your result on Tiger, as if you somehow couldn't expect manipulation is present after everything's that's happened. Don't play stupid.

I'm sure there is no cop role. Most town claimed tracker, watcher and doctor like Remchu. Do we need cop when we have multiple trackers and watchers?

Nitty doesn't usually include alignment cops, but I was willing to believe one might exist in this game, but with near half the player list having claimed watcher/tracker, the already low chances have become miniscule.

[Vote Lynch Cypher]
[Vote Lynch 2 John Wayne]

JW has been coasting for far too long, and with how many claimed trackers there are one has to be scum/lying about being a tracker. I've been tracking Nataj the last two nights trying to see if they're lying/performing the faction kill, but everything with them has checked out.

 

[Ishmael]

Alright. I’m back on the forum, sup?

 

[Hero]

Alright. I’m back on the forum, sup?

You can start by addressing me lol

 

[Hero]

[Vote Lynch Cypher]
[Vote Lynch John Wayne]

Making I get my votes in before day end.

 

[Tiger]

The difference in activity between last phase and this one is deafening.

Certain people who have been consistent are suddenly gone now that we have two lynches and Usopp was town.

 

[John Wayne]

Yeah looks like I might get lynched. I'm town tho and if Tiger is Town too his whole theory falls right out the window.

 

[Tiger]

Just seems like...if all Greens have a role-block, and mafia is role-blocking people, then mafia must have a Green in their ranks.

Obviously not DDL, and to me, that leaves you.

 

[Flower]

Well, good job guys. Way to lynch the Cop and let the scums escape.

B R A V O.

I'm done. Bye.

 

[John Wayne]

Just seems like...if all Greens have a role-block, and mafia is role-blocking people, then mafia must have a Green in their ranks.

Obviously not DDL, and to me, that leaves you.

And how will that work out for you when I flip town hmm

 

[Flower]

And how will that work out for you when I flip town hmm

Can't we just lynch this scum already?

 

[Tiger]

And how will that work out for you when I flip town hmm

Then I'll be lynched tomorrow, and will have been a detriment to town. And I'll be pretty annoyed at Nitty's RNG, and the way mafia derived their abilities given the setup.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Just notice something everyone from each Ajah still has member. Only Blue Ajah jas one member, Juan. Why not lynch Juan to confirm theory that each Ajah has mafia?

 

[Flower]

Then I'll be lynched tomorrow, and will have been a detriment to town. And I'll be pretty annoyed at Nitty's RNG, and the way mafia derived their abilities given the setup.

Just admit you're scum at this point.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

If Juan flips mafia then that means each Ajah has mafia right since Juan is the only Blue Ajah left.

 

[Flower]

Just notice something everyone from each Ajah still has member. Only Blue Ajah jas one member, Juan. Why not lynch Juan to confirm theory that each Ajah has mafia?

Because people are stupid and rather lynch the Cop who caught a scum.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Because people are stupid and rather lynch the Cop who caught a scum.

You survived lynch twice. You definitely has passive that reduce first two voters who vote you. No way that's town ability.

 

[Flower]

Literally Usopp flipping Town confirmed Hero as a liar and yet Tiger bases his whole excuse on Hero not having seen him.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[Vote Lynch Cypher]
[Vote 2nd lynch John Wayne]

 

[Flower]

You survived lynch twice. You definitely has passive that reduce first two voters who vote you. No way that's town ability.

I. Am. Not. Scum.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

The difference in activity between last phase and this one is deafening.

Certain people who have been consistent are suddenly gone now that we have two lynches and Usopp was town.

I'm not scum, coach, I swear.

 

[Flower]

Literally Usopp flipping Town confirmed Hero as a liar and yet Tiger bases his whole excuse on Hero not having seen him.

*not having seen me visit him*

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

If Cypher survives again this is officially a CR game.

 

[Flower]

If Cypher survives again this is officially a CR game.

Tf is a CR game?

 

[John Wayne]

You survived lynch twice. You definitely has passive that reduce first two voters who vote you. No way that's town ability.

I have seen this as a town role, I think it might have even been a previous Nitty game.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

I have seen this as a town role, I think it might have even been a previous Nitty game.

Is this true? @Dragon D. Luffy

 

[Flower]

Ffs...yes, I could survive lynches. Because I have a key role which absolutely mustn't get killed because else Town loses the game. I am able to lie about this as well or hide this fact.

Didn't want to tell you this, but I guess I have no choice now.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Is this true? @Dragon D. Luffy

Everything is possible in this forum.

 

[Tiger]

Just notice something everyone from each Ajah still has member. Only Blue Ajah jas one member, Juan. Why not lynch Juan to confirm theory that each Ajah has mafia?

If Juan flips mafia then that means each Ajah has mafia right since Juan is the only Blue Ajah left.

No one thinks that, DDX. There's no chance there are 7 mafia...

 

[Flower]

[Change Vote Lynch Juan]

[Vote Lynch 2 Tiger]

 

[Flower]

ck

Waking up in the morning to Town losing because they triggered a Game Ender due to yet again not listening to me like in the Members game.

 

[Tiger]

Nah, that's a pile of crap.

 

[Flower]

GG scums, you deserve your W.

 

[Tiger]

Some random non-Amyrlin red Ajah member ends the game if lynched and is allowed to lie even if not a black?

Just...never.

 

[Flower]

Some random non-Amyrlin red Ajah member ends the game if lynched and is allowed to lie even if not a black?

Just...never.

Why else do you think there was no lynch last DP and I was basically saved?

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

Why else do you think there was no lynch last DP and I was basically saved?

You said you didn't know why you were saved. Let's say you told the truth. Now you are saying you can't be lynched because town will lose? And is this the truth too? So one should be a lie and you haven't been removed from the game which means you can lie because you're scum.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Nitty is not doing another moondrop mechanic after the amount of shit he got for that jester.

 

[Tiger]

You want me to explain for the 44th time why I think you weren't lynched? Lmao

 

[Flower]

You said you didn't know why you were saved. Let's say you told the truth. Now you are saying you can't be lynched because town will lose? And is this the truth too? So one should be a lie and you haven't been removed from the game which means you can lie because you're scum.

I am allowed to lie about this specific thing, despite being Town.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I mean let's be honest Cypher is so scummy it physically hurts. The only reason she is still alive is that cop claim, and the fact she is still alive 3 days after making that claim speaks against her.

 

[Tiger]

This is a hail mary, but without receivers.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

[Change vote 2 lynch John Wayne] That defend on Cypher seems suspicious.

 

[Flower]

Nitty is not doing another moondrop mechanic after the amount of shit he got for that jester.

He is doing this rn. But you will see after this DP which is after the game. I don't want to hear "B-but you were scummy." as an excuse. I warned you and you didn't listen. This is all on you.

 

[Tiger]

Anyone remember what Nessos said his active ability was?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

He is doing this rn. But you will see after this DP which is after the game. I don't want to hear "B-but you were scummy." as an excuse. I warned you and you didn't listen. This is all on you.

Cypher my dear.

If there is a mechanic that instantly releases me from playing mafia in this forum I just want to trigger it faster.

 

[Flower]

I mean let's be honest Cypher is so scummy it physically hurts. The only reason she is still alive is that cop claim, and the fact she is still alive 3 days after making that claim speaks against her.

You also thought I was scum in the Members Game and was I scum then? No.

 

[Dragon D Xebec]

I am allowed to lie about this specific thing, despite being Town.

This is a reach. I don't buy it.

 

[Flower]

This is a reach. I don't buy it.

Well, then don't. Not my fault when we lose.

 

[Tiger]

He is doing this rn. But you will see after this DP which is after the game. I don't want to hear "B-but you were scummy." as an excuse. I warned you and you didn't listen. This is all on you.

If your lynch ends the game, I won't really care. I'll pack up and go focus on homework til next game. I was traumatized by having a moon kill me despite being unkillable in Faves. If Nitty is adding that to this game, let it end.

 

[Tiger]

Anyone remember what Nessos said his active ability was?

Quoting so it doesn't get lost.

@Nessos ?

 

[Flower]

If your lynch ends the game, I won't really care. I'll pack up and go focus on homework til next game. I was traumatized by having a moon kill me despite being unkillable in Faves. If Nitty is adding that to this game, let it end.

This is game throwing.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

And Nitty already did that himself this year with the #secretjester

He's not doing it again. He knows the site is done with that kind of mechanic.

 

[Flower]

Just end the game, then. I wanna see the scum roles and the setup.

 

[Flower]

[Vote End Phase(Game)]

 

[Tiger]

Not a thing, Cypher. Just lynch. Still a couple hours to deduce our 2nd lynch lol

 

[John Wayne]

[Change vote 2 lynch John Wayne] That defend on Cypher seems suspicious.

Bruh I'm not just gonna delete my past game experience just to conform to a "Cypher is scum narrative" even if that narrative might have some merit.

On the contrary trying to suppress information is inherently scummy since Scums biggest advantage is being informed.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

For me it's enough that JW has been coasting all game and there is a decent chance my block stopped a kill by his. So I'm banking on that. Hopefully they are both scum, but if only one is that's still a numerical win for the town.

 

[Tiger]

Nevermind, I stopped being lazy and searched Nessos posts. He claimed watcher.

 

[Flower]

Not a thing, Cypher. Just lynch. Still a couple hours to deduce our 2nd lynch lol

Rejoice, you guys win. Admit that you're scum already. I'm doomed anyway and so is Town.

 

[Tiger]

Has any non-Green used a role-block?

 

[Natalija]

Ffs...yes, I could survive lynches. Because I have a key role which absolutely mustn't get killed because else Town loses the game. I am able to lie about this as well or hide this fact.

Didn't want to tell you this, but I guess I have no choice now.

Tell us the ability

 

[Flower]

To future hosts: Please stop giving me important Town roles.

 

[Tiger]

Rejoice, you guys win. Admit that you're scum already. I'm doomed anyway and so is Town.

I mean...like all but a few people can tell I'm town by now. This is just weird from you at this point.

No one believes your game-ender claim.

 

[Tiger]

There's no such thing in Wheel of Time anyway. It's 0% belief from this novel fan.

 

[Flower]

Tell us the ability

It's an active Day Ability which protects me from lynches. Used it twice.