Marco
Who wants to be King?
Actually, AM, on a serious note, I wouldn't be surprised if Stelios is town and my verdict depends on his answers.
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Why do you think Grand Skyfall landed on Post #180? I don't play League of Legends but a little googling and wikiing didn't reveal any significance of that number in regards to Pantheon or Grand Skyfall.
So, if there's no flavor reason for it to land on #180, it means Pantheon chose the post. You're claiming you didn't do it but that no-one would frame you, either. How does that make sense?
I don't think it should be overlooked that hammer sent a note to AM night 1 trying to paint me as mafia. It seems OOC for hammer to do that, especially claiming to know my scum meta. Can you tell us what exactly the message said AM? Will read over hammer's D1 posts when on a computer to see if he posted about me then.
Pretty sure we discussed this the day it happened, and we speculated that since the cooldown of Grand Skyfall when you first put a point into it is 150 seconds, the 30th post in the thread could've started a countdown for it or similarly.
Obviously it was just speculation but it's not like the number wasn't significant.
And that's clearly not the case either since post number 30 was SinRaven and he's dead.
I agree that the speculation was baseless but has he mentioned the 180 thing after SinRaven died? Otherwise I see no reason as to why that would be suspicious? I must've missed it in that case.
I wasn't accusing him of being scummy...don't know why you would jump to that conclusion. Just frustrated he ignored my question.For the King
That sounds like him. Just in case you've missed it, though, he's confirmed to be town. The King. Potentially fake write up but I haven't really gotten any reason to doubt it, yet.
I know all that already. What I was asking for is specific wording, to judge whether or not it may have been written by someone else, a mafia teammate. If you are allowed to copy/paste the message here directly do so. Otherwise paraphrase it to the best of your ability. hammer has a distinct posting style, with a lack of punctuation and bad grammar. Would you say that the message reads like a hammer post?I thought I answered this already. But I'll answer again. The note said that hammer had strong feeling you were mafia because he thought you were using your scum meta. The message also asked me to help him build a wagon on you.
I wasn't accusing him of being scummy...don't know why you would jump to that conclusion. Just frustrated he ignored my question.
I know all that already. What I was asking for is specific wording, to judge whether or not it may have been written by someone else, a mafia teammate. If you are allowed to copy/paste the message here directly do so. Otherwise paraphrase it to the best of your ability. hammer has a distinct posting style, with a lack of punctuation and bad grammar. Would you say that the message reads like a hammer post?
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I know all that already. What I was asking for is specific wording, to judge whether or not it may have been written by someone else, a mafia teammate. If you are allowed to copy/paste the message here directly do so. Otherwise paraphrase it to the best of your ability. hammer has a distinct posting style, with a lack of punctuation and bad grammar. Would you say that the message reads like a hammer post?
That is irrelevant to what I am asking AM, Marco. hammer didn't need to admit it, Nami's ability revealed him as targeting AM. What I am trying to determine is not who sent it but who wrote it.
So....did you manage to find where he claim town or were you just deflecting for Shy?I think he did claim town, I will look back.
Im not a reviver Psy.
That's the thing Marco, you're not just a generic, You're a freakin town leader. You have the most power here, enough power to help sway Baroxio's vote to NL and have him live another night, that ended up killing both Chaos and Remchu. I have no doubt in my mind that Draven listen to you and redirected that lynch, which resulted in LG's death. But you knew you couldn't keep defending Baroxio. You're on your scum meta, Marco. And going after Stelios who got pretty much lie detected as you, isn't going to help you either.Not answering for Supes, but just think about it Psychic. Why would they prioritize someone they've used (what's probably a one-shot) role-crush on for kills? It's not like I'm the only good player left. There's no reason for mafia to kill a generic over everyone else.
Also, Stelios, remember that the mafia may also have a roleblocker. I'm assuming it's why I've been roleblocked every night since that list was posted. But you are right, there probably is at least one other mafia member on that list, I can't imagine the kill being the only action performed by mafia.
I like how you automatically jumped to the conclusion that he's anti-town over town. Was there something that you learned in your QT about Superman that we weren't aware of?The only viable reason I can think for you to not reveal your role and abilities is that you're anti-town. Emphasis on viable.
Supes, always fucking things up for the rest of us. You didn't quote yourself, by the way.
AM this is the scenario I am imagining when asking these questions:
1. Mafia has a role that can send messages.
2. hammer has this role
3. A different member of the mafia group writes the message that is to be sent.
Simple enough for you?
There's nothing in the rules against copy pasting, though, so you should be able to just copy paste the message.
We can confirm with Nitty first.
That's the thing Marco, you're not just a generic, You're a freakin town leader. You have the most power here, enough power to help sway Baroxio's vote to NL and have him live another night, that ended up killing both Chaos and Remchu. I have no doubt in my mind that Draven listen to you and redirected that lynch, which resulted in LG's death. But you knew you couldn't keep defending Baroxio. You're on your scum meta, Marco. And going after Stelios who got pretty much lie detected as you, isn't going to help you either.
Then again, I don't have any proof beyond that. But the longer you live, the more scum you become.
I like how you automatically jumped to the conclusion that he's anti-town over town. Was there something that you learned in your QT about Superman that we weren't aware of?
1. I guess Mafia could have such a role, when I first got it I didn't exclude that possibility but such role is usually not found within a mafia team.
2. Hammer admitted to be the creator of that message. So either he was wrong or had a good hunch.
3. That would be rather redundant.
I guess there is no harm to question Hammer again. On another note, did someone else receive a message? If no, maybe it was a one-shot.
I don't think you got WPK.
Basically, he's saying even though hammer is the one who sent the actual message, i.e. hammer has the role. If it's a mafia role, someone else in his team could've written it in the quicktopic, and then hammer could've copy pasted it to Nitty.
Whats redundant about mafia discussing the best use of their actions? A mafia with a messaging ability will want to spread dissent among town. Telling you to go after me fits with that.
No no, I got WPK. I was just saying that the way he phrased made it sound like there are two abilities required to send a message. 1. ability to write the message. 2. Ability to send the message.
But like I said, at this point, the only thing I can think of in regards to a mistake that could hint at who actually wrote the message would be: "Hey..." instead of "Hey,..."
So, look for people who leave out commas.
It's not an ability though. If hammer is mafia, his teammate doesn't need an ability to "write the message". hammer has the ability to send the message. But anyone in his team can write the message.
Oh come on if you have not figured out who I am do not play LOL anymore. I was fucking reborn...amid a terrible storm...how stupid or scummy are some of ya...
Janna
Wincon: eliminate the mafia & hostile independents
[Three Shot Active – Monsoon] – Janna scatters a group of players, resetting all of the votes currently cast against a player of her choosing.
Orianna
Wincon: eliminate the mafia & hostile independents
[Passive – Clockwork Windup] – As a robot, Orianna’s vote cannot be tampered with
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[Active – The Ball] – Orianna uses her ball as a focus for her spells. Each day she can move the ball to any player, including herself. At night, she can only target that player.
[Active – Command: Protect] – Each night the ball can erect a barrier, protecting Orianna’s target from kills.
[Active – Command: Dissonance] – Each night the ball can electrocute Orianna’s target, roleblocking them.
[One Shot Active – Command: Shockwave] – The ball overflows with electricity, killing Orianna’s target and roleblocking anyone who targeted them this phase.
Stall tactics and a miller claim, guess you felt you had to spice things up after just stalling failed for Baroxio.
The thing I dislike about leaving certain targets for later is that there is usually at least one mafis role that gets more powerful the longer the game goes on. Day 5 is common for upgrades. Then we factor in this game being based on League, which has level ups...its not wise to let them stall.
Crescent Nyx (Janna) and Viper (Orianna) have been modkilled due to inactivity.
Day four ends in 9 hours.
You haven't really revealed much at all. What I see is a claim of being able to expose Pantheon but failing to have done so for three cycles and a late added miller claim. Pretty standard fair for mafia on the hot seat![]()
Vasto's claiming Anivia.
After revealing all that, you still gonna push it.
Yeah, okay fine.
You think WPK is mafia. Why are you trying to convince him you're town?
Good question, but the answers are not just for him.
For you, Melodie, Stelios too.
So, were you telling me, Melodie, and Stelios that we're still pushing it after all that you revealed?
Oh, I had that role last game.
I keep recalling posts from either you or someone else saying that you're the most confirmed town there is, but remind me again, why is that?![]()
What in it wasn't too kind? Just suspecting me by itself doesn't make it means towards me.
Has posted nothing of value whatsoever.
There's nothing in the rules against copy pasting, though, so you should be able to just copy paste the message.
We can confirm with Nitty first.
I don't think you got WPK.
Basically, he's saying even though hammer is the one who sent the actual message, i.e. hammer has the role. If it's a mafia role, someone else in his team could've written it in the quicktopic, and then hammer could've copy pasted it to Nitty.
So did you get a message from hammer, Psychic?
Is WPK confirmed or at least presumed town?
Josuke (inactive but not modkilled?)
General rule of thumb is to not copy/paste ANYTHING a moderator PMs you.
I might have missed this, how is he 100% cleared?On the topic of Waffles, he is thankfully 100% clear as town this game.
I am town, and if I do live through this dayphase someone should investigate me to confirm it.
Anywho, for the above reason...
[Change Vote Lynch VoDe]
town reads:
Sworder (confirmed through ability)
Alwaysmind (Jarvan, King of the World)
Stelios (confirm via lie detector)
Superman (town or indie)
Belphegoob
Psychic
Shark Skin (town by meta)
Melody
VoDe
Sarun
Vaeny
Mr. Waffles (WPK confirmed?)
Firestormer
Scum reads :
Legend (claims doc but is still alive?)
Laix (replaced Gogeta)
Shy
WolfPrinceKiba
Marco (town leader but still alive?)
Josuke (inactive but not modkilled?)
null reads:
Franky
Santi
hammer
Indie reads :
Atlantic Storm (self confessed)
People who need to posts:
Persecuted
ace
I think both of you are town. I mean, at this point, lynching WPK or Josuke would be a better idea. I don't think I can get the Legend lynch going.
[Change vote lynch WPK]
The WPK lynch would reveal alot.
@Shark Skin
I was re-reading and noticed that all you said was "yes i am " so I need you to re- confirm your statement. Can you say " I am town."
I am town. I know I've danced around the question a bit in previous games, but "yes I am" doesn't do much for me especially when being asked if I'm a townie
As for WPK, I can tell you that there won't be much that would come from lynching him. I think Josuke is a better target. Especially with that real lazy "placeholder" vote he put on you.
[Vote lynch Josuke]
I am town. I know I've danced around the question a bit in previous games, but "yes I am" doesn't do much for me especially when being asked if I'm a townie
As for WPK, I can tell you that there won't be much that would come from lynching him. I think Josuke is a better target. Especially with that real lazy "placeholder" vote he put on you.
[Vote lynch Josuke]
Would reveal a lot about what Psychic? Who exactly do you feel it would strongly implicate?
Ask anyone who knows how I operate what the only reason as town I would say someone is 100% confirmed.
Laix and yourself don't have the skill or care look into promising leads. There is reason behind everything I do.