Psyche
Well-Known Member
If we can get one more vote on Josuke, it will be a 3 way tie at 5 votes each for Franky, VoDe and Josuke.
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so what you're saying is that there isn't a lot of info to go by WPK who has given reads, but there is info to gain by lynching me, an inactive who has pretty much made no interactions with any other player thus far?As for WPK, I can tell you that there won't be much that would come from lynching him. I think Josuke is a better target. Especially with that real lazy "placeholder" vote he put on you.
I am town. I know I've danced around the question a bit in previous games, but "yes I am" doesn't do much for me especially when being asked if I'm a townie
As for WPK, I can tell you that there won't be much that would come from lynching him. I think Josuke is a better target. Especially with that real lazy "placeholder" vote he put on you.
[Vote lynch Josuke]
I can tell ya'll right now that if I was mafia I would have at least attempted to blend more instead of being blatantly inactive. I really have been busy and it was my own mistake to try to play mafia during midterms week
But I'm town. I can prove it when we're not roleblocked.
Oh and
so what you're saying is that there isn't a lot of info to go by WPK who has given reads, but there is info to gain by lynching me, an inactive who has pretty much made no interactions with any other player thus far?
Some great plays here today.
On top of that this sudden wagon is great. I wish I got a quarter each time mafia has attempted to push a scapegoat lynch on little ol me when their scummates are in trouble.
I can tell ya'll right now that if I was mafia I would have at least attempted to blend more instead of being blatantly inactive. I really have been busy and it was my own mistake to try to play mafia during midterms week
But I'm town. I can prove it when we're not roleblocked.
Oh and
so what you're saying is that there isn't a lot of info to go by WPK who has given reads, but there is info to gain by lynching me, an inactive who has pretty much made no interactions with any other player thus far?
Some great plays here today.
On top of that this sudden wagon is great. I wish I got a quarter each time mafia has attempted to push a scapegoat lynch on little ol me when their scummates are in trouble.
because psy deserves to die
my spite list will be checked off no matter what the cost is
Yorick
Wincon: eliminate the mafia & hostile independents
[Three Shot Active ? Unholy Covenant] ? Using his necromantic powers, Yorick can revive an innocent player as a ghoul. Yorick?s ghouls have no voting power but instead each give Yorick +1 voting power, and Yorick can communicate with them outside of the thread. If Yorick dies, all of the players he revived will return to the grave. Once Yorick uses this ability, he and his ghouls will scan guilty to investigations.
Well on the Stelios note he was lie detected and came up that he was telling the truth about being town.
Well on the Stelios note he was lie detected and came up that he was telling the truth about being town.
Okay so I'd said I'd prove I was town when the role block lifts. My role is Fiora and I'm a bulletproof. So someone try to kill me.
I'm under suspicion anyways and better to use it to prove me this way than to end up possibly wasting a lynch on me which is what almost happened last phase.
Okay, time to be serious now. [unvote] it is rather late. My grey cells need to rest.
Is it a coincidence I roleblock a certain person and nothing happens this night?![]()
I'm not having a dejavu. That's you repeating the same thing like two hours ago
Okay so I'd said I'd prove I was town when the role block lifts. My role is Fiora and I'm a bulletproof. So someone try to kill me.
I'm under suspicion anyways and better to use it to prove me this way than to end up possibly wasting a lynch on me which is what almost happened last phase.
Difference is that according to my role once a kill is blocked it is announced in the thread.
I didn't reveal yesterday because I thought that mafia could still do actions during the night phase since because I assumed the massive role block was some mafia move, thus being able to possible role block me and kill me night time.
Alright, this needs to happen.
[Vote lynch Marco]
No way, town leader can live this long. All he has done is misguided town. He helped saved Baroxio, cauisng many townies to die in the process. You know mafia would not let Marco live this long unless he was mafia. I know it's pretty far-fetched but just think about it. WPK, Legend and Marco are the remaining scum. Either that or it's Josuke, Stelios and Laix.![]()
He helped saved Baroxio, cauisng many townies to die in the process.
Marco thinks he is the godfather pantheon because he quote a post number and Laix died in it. Even though mafia could just used that to frame him. And since no one noticed the 180 post besides waffles, he could be either town or mafia.
But ask yourself this.....why is Marco still alive and what has Marco done for town?
Thing about Marco is that he was both lie-detected as town and nobody has countered his claim of being rolecrushed, both of which would have to be fake for him to be maf. If we're going by Psychic's model, I'd put WPK or even Legend on the block before him.
Mostly WPK though, because after last phase I now think he's Pantheon.
[Vote Lynch WPK]
Righto, here's my pitch.
WPK's response to VoDe's rolehinting hella rubs me the wrong way. I realise his suspicion of VoDe is consistent from previous phases, but he ignores a lot to brute force his point across.
- VoDe was actually 2nd in votes at the time, not in such desperate straits that a roleclaim would just have been to save his skin.
- VoDe's roleclaim was extremely specific, which from all my experience correlates well to being factual, eg: miller only after using his ability, rather than just a generic miller claim.
- I don't know if WPK plays League or not, but if he does, the big level up he cites would be at 6, not 5. Even mentioning the ability upgrade feels like it was solely to force a lynch on VoDe right that phase rather than actual suspicion that it might have been imminent.
Most telling of all though, his immediate disbelief in VoDe with zero attempt to press for further information is a strong scum indicator for him. A town!WPK would absolutely have grilled VoDe on details about how his abilities worked, why he hadn't used them, even pretended to believe him to try and draw out potential associations. Town!WPK is an efficient scumhunter; yesterday's WPK made no attempt to work off VoDe's claims whatsoever and was only interested in having him lynched.
The reason I think WPK is Pantheon in particular is that he doesn't typically go out of his way for scummates; his mafia game is about as self-focused lone-wolf as his town game and just counts on his own ability to debate himself out of any trouble. If my hypothesis is right and he's playing to remove a potential lead on Pantheon, it'd be out-of-character for Pantheon to be anybody else but him.
Most people didn't think anything. It was only after Waffles made that tinfoil association that you, WPK and a couple more found it plausible. And after the lie detect any kind of accusation was pretty much gone yet you brought it up.
>asked if town
>replied immediately
>was confirmed by ld
Why does me being suspicious of you now surprise you when you were on my scumlist as early as Day 1?
That's rather interesting for you to say given that you were also lie detected. If you question my lie detect the same weight of doubt is being raised about your lie detection as well. Now that I think of it you being role-crushed after all and lie detected makes you the perfect "harmless" person in game. That would be a grand play indeed and I do have you capable of pulling something like that.
Why is it surprising that someone questions the validity of your lie detect? You are the best lead for Pantheon. And you agree Pantheon is likely Godfather. So, it's not hard to infer that your lie detect was inaccurate.
I'm not implying anything, YOU mentioned it. And your persistence of bringing this up again and again makes me more sus of you granted that I was not the one to bring this up.
The Persecuted part seems solid. And yes it's likely that Pantheon is the godfather. However I m not Pantheon and the 180 degrees phrase association was a complete coincidence. I already said this but it felt the same association I made with Psychics "3 hearts, 3 backstabs" at kingmaker. I was sold that you are town Marco but I find it odd that you challenge the lie detect at this point in time while we have at least 5 people flying under the radar.
What's your read on Waffles that made this association by the way? Personally at the start of the game I found Waffles proactive however now he seems his familiar silent neutral self again.
That's also some tinfoil paranoia which seems to be relying on what Waffles said. I'm calling bullshit on the whole 180 thing since start. I don't take myself as seriously as you do in mafia game world so I wouldn't consider the framing bit at all. It could be true though but given that wad was part of this mafia I doubt they'd resort into such a tactic. All he had to do would be to be vocal against me until I omgus and get lynched for being unpopular.
Marco I m a busy man there are days I get no slack and no sleep.
As for your questions I m pretty sure I replied. Your follow up was just unreasonable pressure on things that were already said. At this point I consider your whole presence detrimental to town and Psychic's thoughts are pretty much spot on. And no this is not omgus, in fact I m willing to put my vote where my mouth is.
[vote lynch Marco]
Just read the post I reposted. If you actually read, it's clear that you didn't actually answer my questions.
And if you continue to ignore me, I'll have no choice but to believe you're scum and push for your death today.
I mean, if it was anyone else, I would've not given so many chances.
You try to come off as I m the one that needs to convince you. Which is rich considering that you tried to avert the lynch from Baroxio. Also your straw grabbing questions "do you imply I m Mafia , do you imply you were framed" and so on. I stated facts and you were just trying to fish things that weren't even there. You did the same with Vode yesterday.
In fact you and WPK pressured together Vode.
Small example :
Yet after Vode's flip not a word about it and you are back to 180 post hunting?
Guys look at Marco-WPK interaction vs Vode yesterday and if you don't
find that sus af then lynch me today.
Look, Stelios, I understand the frustration that comes with someone consistently calling you scum when you're town, and how what might seem obvious to oneself makes one think that the "pusher" must be scum.
Can' t you just humor me? And the rest of the players? If you are really town, is it really such a big deal for you to address my concerns and destroy them (if they're so unfounded), rather than just ignoring and deflecting/OMGUSing?
It's just bad play if you're town.
I think it's a coincidence that you send your action granted there was a universal roleblock in place by the storm superman caused.
You try to come off as I m the one that needs to convince you. Which is rich considering that you tried to avert the lynch from Baroxio. Also your straw grabbing questions "do you imply I m Mafia , do you imply you were framed" and so on. I stated facts and you were just trying to fish things that weren't even there. You did the same with Vode yesterday.
In fact you and WPK pressured together Vode.
Small example :
Yet after Vode's flip not a word about it and you are back to 180 post hunting?
Guys look at Marco-WPK interaction vs Vode yesterday and if you don't
find that sus af then lynch me today.
You too, Santi.![]()
I don't care if you consider me innocent this a your word vs my word thing.
We know you are a pretty vocal player so keep writing floods of text and tunnel me by all means. Sasuga Marco. Point stays the same anyone reading last phase will see what I m talking about.
Don't try to patronize me Marco , if you understand my sentiments and that I'm town why do you keep busting my balls? Could it be that you are hoping I ll word slip and get lynched then?
I'm even more convinced that Franky is scum now. What the fuck was that quick jump to VoDe right at the end of last phase, there's gotta be at least one mafia in that group that jumped to VoDe right at the end.
I admit that I may have been too aggro on VoDe and was heavily considering switching to Franky. Most likely would have if I hadn't spent the last six hours of the phase playing Tales of Vesperia with my friend instead of thinking too much about this game(my brain doesn't allow me not dismiss it completely from my thoughts). I did question his roleclaim to an extent, he wasn't too cooperative. I don't see why cycle 6 would be this games power spike Belph, as every champ looks to have had their ult available from D1.
Marco, the scenario I have been picturing if you are scum is that you are Godfather, there immune to lie detects and rolecrushes. The rolecrush was used on you but you had immunity. A large gambit but a rolecrush is expendable and your performance in Kingmaker could make you feel its worth it.
Marco, what would it take for a town me to say someone is 100% clear?
Is it a coincidence I roleblock a certain person and nothing happens this night?![]()
Nope my poweRS1!! surpass petty storms![]()
Ok reread the thing right at the end. Seems he got lynched because some people decided to go after Josuke in a completely fruitless adventure instead. Welp, a little less suspicious now, but I still find it odd.
Waffles, what do you think about Stelios?