League of Legends Mafia - Part 1

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Santi, hammer, Psychic. Those are the three to press this phase.

Santi-In the background for most of the game. Some "interesting" votes as far as I can remember.

hammer- Honestly not so much my own read as much as it is just that others seem to be really interested in him. He has said quite a bit about not really being able to be around for this game though.

Psychic- Claimed survivor. I'd lean towards believing her, but I'm just not 100% sold on that. Maybe she could tell us something more about her role?
 
Melodie said:
Well she did say she is a bomb :catskully

If you had to guess out of all the actions that appeared which is the most likely to be fake? This is the thing that is bothering me. Only stelios or Marco could fall into the category of utilizing such
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Could just be to throw us off. I mean its hard to believe that a jester/bomb would be as active as she has been without actually trying to get lynch before hand. And you can't have two more opposing roles to claim than survivor and jester/bomb. Something isn't right with that. I want to go back and read some of her posts though. There was something that had stood out to me in the past, but I want to look around a bit more.

In so far as which writeup is most likely to come up falsified I can say. They both have as much of a chance of being falsified, with both having reason for being so. I will say that if I had to choose, it be Stelios', but that's not saying much based on how I actually feel. Now that we know Stelios isn't Pantheon the whole 180 thing doesn't have much credence. And, IMO, the conditions that were created for Marco seem to have too much build up to be worth the effort for mafia.
 
I really don't see stelios being maf. What was the point of incriminating him with the 180 thing?

Anyway, nitty said even with sworder's vote, josuke was getting lynched. This is including vaeny's power votes. Which means someone on the josuke wagon has power votes. Alternatively, and this is actually the reason I was saying I might die at night as opposed to vaeny. Remaining scum could have vote stealing.

And no night kill doesn't make sense.

Waffles, is one of psychic, hammer, Santi your mason?
 
Maybe they targeted Sworder? He did say to not protect him couple of phases ago. BP?

And yeah, Mason claim right now is NECESSARY. We need to lower the amount of suspects as much as possible. There's literally no reason to keep it as it is. I want to take certain posts for granted instead of tinfoiling their possible interpretations.
 
Marco said:
Well, it says edit a write up. So I'm assuming they can't just make a fake write up. I. E. They can only edit write up for an actual action.

So, were they updated before you made any write up?
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Lissandra's one shot was the ability to replace a writeup with whatever she wanted. If she wanted to keep the entire true writeup and just change a few names or tack an extra detail on, that would be fine. If she wanted to remove all of the legit actions and make up an elaborate fake writeup that would also be fine. If she wanted to delete the writeup entirely or change it to "Marco eats farts," those things would also be fine. The point is that Lissandra makes you doubt your understanding of history.
 
So wait, Lissandra could only edit write ups after you'd already posted them here?

Melodie said:
Maybe they targeted Sworder? He did say to not protect him couple of phases ago. BP?

And yeah, Mason claim right now is NECESSARY. We need to lower the amount of suspects as much as possible. There's literally no reason to keep it as it is. I want to take certain posts for granted instead of tinfoiling their possible interpretations.
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But why would they target him when he claimed BP?

Honestly, I was hoping you were the third mason. Nothing to do with read. Was just hoping you'd be confirmed.
 
I mean, if they don't get updated, they'll see the write up for the first time like the rest of us.

Could they pre-emptively change their own write ups?

Eg: mafia sends in an action to use some action that a old get a write up and they ask you to change it to whatever Lissandra wants. Would that be possible?
 
Nitty Scott said:
Er no, that wasn't to say that she could edit writeups after they were posted. Just that I didn't go to Lissandra before posting each writeup to ask if she wanted to change it. It was on Lissandra to take the initiative, if that makes sense.
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But how would she know what actions or write ups you're gonna make? Is it pre-emptive? I. E. She says "change the next write up to so-and-so?
 
Marco said:
Waffles, is one of psychic, hammer, Santi your mason?
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Melodie said:
And yeah, Mason claim right now is NECESSARY. We need to lower the amount of suspects as much as possible. There's literally no reason to keep it as it is. I want to take certain posts for granted instead of tinfoiling their possible interpretations.
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My buddy isn't on your suspect list, so keep on doing whatever it is your doing. :amuse
 
PLAYER LIST

Marco - Leona
sworder - Town (forgot role name)
Shark Skin - Town
Mr. Waffles - Town (Mason)
Vaeny - Draven
Superman - Anivia
Alwaysmind - Jarvan
Stelios - Town?
Melodie - Town?
Psychic - Indy?
hammer
Santi

People who didn't quote Melodie:

Stelios - Town?
Vaeny - Draven
Psychic - Indy?
hammer

hammer is literally the best lead we have at this point. Mafia risked getting blocked by Melodie's protection when they went after Legend. When they could've killed one of the above. I don't see any logic behind Stelios being mafia. Vaeny is confirmed town. I've been reading Psychic town all game and she claimed indy. Which leaves hammer.
 
Marco said:
Okay, I think I get it.

Last thing. If she were to edit with a fake role on death. I.e. Let's say they attack me but instead of my role being revealed as Leona, it's revealed as someone else.

In this case, would my name in bt he player list also be whatever Lissandra chose?
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The answer to this name could confirm AM or put him in the suspect list. Though I'm leaning on it confirming him.

Anyway, you guys can at least rest easy that neither mine nor Stelios' lie detect was fake.
 
LIST OF ACTIONS

DAY 1
Spoiler:

Pantheon used Grand Skyfall to land on post #180, superkilling Laix (???)!

Illaoi used Test of Spirit to lie detect the following post:
lol, don't ask questions just for the sake of asking them. I consider myself town because that's the alignment of my role.
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Marco is telling the truth.

Lux used Illumination to reveal one ???.
Pantheon used Grand Skyfall to land on post #180, superkilling Laix (Shyvana)!
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Lissandra used Frozen Tomb to role crush ???

Draven has executed Saturno (Amumu)!


NIGHT 1
Spoiler:

Nocturne used Paranoia! The game has been shrouded in darkness!


DAY 2
Spoiler:

Miss Fortune used Bullet Time to kill Familyparka (Nami) and WAD (Evelynn)!
Katarina used Bouncing Blades to faction kill Superman (???)!

Jarvan (Alwaysmind) used The Crown to assume his rightful position as king!
Nami used Tidal Wave to drown out the game! All lynch votes have been reset and I will now disclose who was targeted last night:
Remchu targeted Belphegoob
Chaos targeted Stelios
sworder targeted Belphegoob
Laix targeted Stelios
Firestormer targeted Sarun
Baroxio targeted Degaforce
Sarun targeted WPK
Sin targeted WAD
Legend targeted Marco, WPK and WAD
Hammer targeted Alwaysmind
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Illaoi used Test of Spirit to lie detect the following post:
I am town
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This post does not contain a lie.

Hammer targeted Alwaysmind.

Draven used League of Draven to redirect the lynch! Draven has executed Lord Genome (Illaoi)!
Paranoia has subsided. All of the additional rules enacted by Nocturne have been redacted. Voting has returned to normal and masons may resume communication.


NIGHT 2
Spoiler:

Katarina used Bouncing Blades to faction kill Chaos (???) and Remchu (???)!


DAY 3
Spoiler:

Draven has executed Baroxio (Katarina)!


NIGHT 3
Spoiler:

Pantheon has faction killed SinRaven (???)!
Superman has been reborn amid a terrible storm, roleblocking all other players for the rest of the cycle!


DAY 4
Spoiler:

Crescent Nyx (Janna) and Viper (Orianna) have been modkilled due to inactivity.

VoDe (Yorick) has been lynched!


NIGHT 4
Spoiler:

The storm has subsided.


DAY 5
Spoiler:

Draven has executed Persecuted (LeBlanc)!


NIGHT 5
Spoiler:

Pantheon has faction killed WolfPrinceKiba (Shen)!


DAY 6
Spoiler:

Caitlyn used Headshot to kill Atlantic Storm (Zed)!

Draven has executed Franky (Lissandra)!


LISSANDRA DEAD. FOLLOWING WRITE-UPS 100% ACCURATE

NIGHT 6
Spoiler:

Pantheon has faction killed Firestormer (Vayne)!


DAY 7
Spoiler:

Draven has executed Belphegoob (Pantheon)!


NIGHT 7
Spoiler:

Nocturne has faction killed Legend (Lulu)!


DAY 8
Spoiler:

Ace (Lucian) has been modkilled for inactivity.
Shy (Bard) has been modkilled for discussing the game outside of the thread.

Draven has executed Josuke (Fiora)!


NIGHT 8
Spoiler:

Caitlyn used Ace in the Hole to kill Laix (Ahri)!
 
so, I will try and repost what I said since my internet dropepd when I hit send, I was going to vote however due to the 5 year plan meeting my internet has been really shitty.

and at this point I guess I have no choice but to reveal, saurn uchiha and I are/were quinn and valor which explains the message to AM.
 
Gah, that sarun kill. I totally forgot. It was a Day 2 kill.

So you're saying you guys were masons? And sarun wrote the message that you sent to AM? Can you also explain what the reasoning behind the message and target was?


Also, on the sarun bit. Mafia killed 3 peeople from Night 1 - Day 2. degaforce, sarun, and Superman. But only Superman got a write up.
 
Adding on to my last post, it could be that the sarun kill in the write up was changed into the Alwaysmind reveal. I'm gonna try to check the timing.

This also means there's a kill unaccounted for. Which could be related to Nocturne and how we were warned where we posted. And why did one of Katarina's faction kill on Supes get delayed to Day 2?
 
hammer said:
the message marked alwaysmind but sarun ended up getting killed, so being marked was useless, but for now I can believe the alwaysmind reveal, but then again I haven't been able to actually read this game.
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Wait, does your message kill someone???

Melodie said:
????????????????? Valor and Quinn being two separate two roles? Why were you not able to reveal this information earlier?
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What is the significance here?

And what do you think about the write ups thing. AM write up is the only one that could be faked, I believe.
 
Marco said:
Wait, does your message kill someone???



What is the significance here?

And what do you think about the write ups thing. AM write up is the only one that could be faked, I believe.
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Valor is not a champion. It's an ability. It makes things a bit dubious.

I wouldn't say the /only/. I can see yours being faked. (The rolecrush or whatever)

Reading the actions now, why do you say that makes your lie detection/crush & stelios can't be faked?
 
Melodie said:
Valor is not a champion. It's an ability. It makes things a bit dubious.

I wouldn't say the /only/. I can see yours being faked. (The rolecrush or whatever)
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What could be fake in Lissandra's role-crush?

Reading the actions now, why do you say that makes your lie detection/crush & stelios can't be faked?
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Read up Nitty's answers to my questions. He says mafia would have to either

1. Send in an action of their own and tell Nitty to change it via Lissandra's one-shot.
2. Would have to tell Nitty to change the next write up to whatever they want.

For Stelios' or my lie detect to be fake, mafia would have to predict when the lie detect is about to come, and then tell Nitty to do it. I was LD'd Day 1 in fact, so mafia didn't even have any reason to believe there would be a lie detector.

Also, LG never indicated that his lie detects were aimed at the wrong post. i.e. Mafia would not only have to predict when the lie detect is processed, but also who LG chose to lie detect.

Just not happening.
 
I sort of believe hammer. For starters, I don't think anyone received any messages once sarun died. And the fact that his claim is shady to you LoL regulars actually gives it more credence to me. Mafia could've chosen to claim the role of any of the other half dozen people they janitored.

Tinfoil Marco finds Melodie suspcious. But my brain is pointing to AM being our guy. Could be Psychic too.
 
holy shit I made a response to both melodie and marco and my internet said fuck you naruto:catprone


@marco yes it was a kill

@melodie because when I reveal it's normally either a badass role like unohana in manga mashup or when I can quickly end the game like in reboot



now a fucking 502 error

what the actual fuck
 
hammer said:
holy shit I made a response to both melodie and marco and my internet said fuck you naruto:catprone


@marco yes it was a kill

@melodie because when I reveal it's normally either a badass role like unohana in manga mashup or when I can quickly end the game like in reboot



now a fucking 502 error

what the actual fuck
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Let me get this straight. You are sarun's bird and the person sarun sends a message to via you, is killed the next day?
 
Nitty Scott said:
Caitlyn used Ace in the Hole to kill Laix (Ahri)!



Day nine begins. You may now begin posting.
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THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT BITCH

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thanks for the game Nitty :catflower
 
Marco said:
I sort of believe hammer. For starters, I don't think anyone received any messages once sarun died. And the fact that his claim is shady to you LoL regulars actually gives it more credence to me. Mafia could've chosen to claim the role of any of the other half dozen people they janitored.

Tinfoil Marco finds Melodie suspcious. But my brain is pointing to AM being our guy. Could be Psychic too.
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Well, to be fair hammer has knowledge of league of legends as well, so he does know of the pair.

Do share
 
Melodie said:
Well, to be fair hammer has knowledge of league of legends as well, so he does know of the pair.
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No, I mean it's a strange claim. It took you by surprise too. Kinda hard to believe mafia wouldn't go for an easy claim. But this mafia tried to frame Stelios by using a one-shot triple superkill on Day 1, and they decided to do it in 30 minutes. So, who knows. I'm leaning on the side of believing hammer though. And I think we'll have a much better direction to go in once we're through these sarun posts.

Do share
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It's nothing serious. I'll get back to you on this after I'm done satisfying my sarun/hammer/AM itch.
 
Marco said:
Read up Nitty's answers to my questions. He says mafia would have to either

1. Send in an action of their own and tell Nitty to change it via Lissandra's one-shot.
2. Would have to tell Nitty to change the next write up to whatever they want.
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You forgot about night phase write ups.
It's how this ability was used in Law's game.

Host gives mafia early access to the night phase write up, mafia changes it, submit it, host posts it.

So, my guess for the fake write up would either be night phase or one of their own actions during the day. :hm
 
Mr. Waffles said:
You forgot about night phase write ups.
It's how this ability was used in Law's game.

Host gives mafia early access to the night phase write up, mafia changes it, submit it, host posts it.

So, my guess for the fake write up would either be night phase or one of their own actions during the day. :hm
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I have the night actions in my list. And Nitty already confirmed mafia didn't get early access. It was Lissandra's initiative. She would have to ask Nitty to change the next (even if it's night) write up in advance.

And Night Phase pretty much only has mafia kill every night. Most of them janitored. Nothing much to fake there.
 
This is why I should always keep notes. I remember actually discussing all this but had no memory of the whole thing.


So, sarun was hard pushing AM didn't receive any message. We know sarun targeted WPK. We know Legend bus drove WPK and WAD. So, WAD is the one who actually received a message. All this while, hammer is ignoring what's happening between sarun and AM. sarun is going viagra hard on AM and suddenly comes the write up "Alwaysmind is Jarvan". And after a while Nitty adds "hammer targeted Alwaysmind". And sarun drops a "thanks for the game".

NARRATIVE: WAD received message instead of WPK. Told his teammates. AM mentioned it. sarun said it's impossible cause he knew he sent it to WPK. sarun is going hardcore on AM. hammer is just trying to not be involved in this discussion. Mafia use a daykill to take out sarun (Nocturne's ability most likely) and Lissandra one-shot to change the write up to say "Alwaysmind is Jarvan". hammer probably targeted Alwaysmind at night (protection?). Suddenly, hammer claims he's the one who sent the message.

So, AM and hammer scum together, looks like.
 
Nitty, would it be possible for you to answer some questions about this ability?

[One Shot Active – Grand Skyfall] – During the day Pantheon can perform a herculean leap, landing on a post number that hasn’t been reached yet. Whoever posts on that number will be superkilled, in addition to the posters immediately before and immediately after that post.
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How does this work, exactly? Does Pantheon have to send you a PM with the post number?
 
Melodie said:
Hmm. Why do you think Josuke got lynched instead of Laix, Marco?
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I was entertaining the idea of vote stealer but while compiling the list of actions, I saw Persecuted had a vote stealing ability. It's not likely there's another one.'


Vote count

Melodie - hammer
Marco - Josuke > Laix
Shark Skin - Josuke
sworder - Josuke > Laix
Alwaysmind - Josuke
Psychic - Psychic > Laix
Superman - Laix > Josuke
Vaeny - Laix

Psychic asked me privately to change her vote to Laix.

Josuke - 3
Laix - 4

Vaeny's vote power would be = 5 (1 + 4 from the 4 lynched scum)
[Passive ? Glorious Executioner] ? Lynches are carried out by Draven. For every hostile player that Draven executes he will reach a new level of fame, gaining +1 voting power.
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So, the actual votes would be

Josuke - 3
Laix - 4 (8)

If they had a vote silencer, and he targeted Vaeny, the votes would be 3 v 3. That would mean Josuke died via RNG. Or there could be a power voter among SS, AM, Supes. In which case, AM as King or mafia would fit. I would also expect an ability write up if vote silencing was going on, but Nitty never made any such write up for Perse's vote stealing.

That's the most likely explanation, unless we're to believe someone on the Josuke wagon at least +6 vote power.
 
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