League of Legends Mafia - Part 1

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If AM is important enough to mafia for them to eliminate sarun like that and use fake write up to hide it while confirming AM, I don't doubt they'd stand up for him either.

:catpathy

At this point, either options are good tbh. But I truly feel like Hammer is straight up lying.
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The chances of hammer being town are also quite high. The more I read, I think the possibilities are high.

When sarun posted, "thanks for the game", hammer was the first person to notice it and point it out to the rest. Why would mafia do that if they just secretly killed him? Seems more like something a mason would do if they lost their partner in secret.

hammer could also be ignoring the sarun vs AM because, "my partner is dealing with this".

This wouldn't explain why sarun was so sure AM didn't receive a message, however.


Either way, we're more likely to get information out of AM than hammer. He's stuck in china with no internet.
 
Psychic said:
What if.....lissandra faked her own death to frame franky? What if Lissandra is Marco?

Sworder already wasted his one shot. Town doesn't have anymore kills. If mafia lynched me today and kill town tonight then mafia win and I win. Deal?
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You need to make up your mind about where you stand on me, your own alignment, and your win condition.

This doesn't even work as baiting 'cause no one can take you seriously. Just confuses everyone.
 
Honestly Marco, let's keep it 100% Anyone would quote that sarun post if hammer did not and figure out the kill from the opening post. Mentioning it first simply gives more credit.

I will join you on pressuring AM, but it's AM and I honestly don't see what the heck will we get out of it. I'll go back on hammer if he doesn't give me alwaysscum vibe though.

[Vote lynch Alwaysmind]
 
Melodie said:
Honestly Marco, let's keep it 100% Anyone would quote that sarun post if hammer did not and figure out the kill from the opening post. Mentioning it first simply gives more credit.

I will join you on pressuring AM, but it's AM and I honestly don't see what the heck will we get out of it. I'll go back on hammer if he doesn't give me alwaysscum vibe though.

[Vote lynch Alwaysmind]
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Agreed, he could have just done it to get a lead on others figuring it out.

In that case, AM is still implicated as sarun was sure AM didn't get a message while hammer backed AM on this.
 
Re-quoting for fresh eyes.

Marco said:
PLAYER LIST

Marco - Leona
sworder - Town (forgot role name)
Shark Skin - Town
Mr. Waffles - Town (Mason)
Vaeny - Draven
Superman - Anivia
Alwaysmind - Jarvan
Stelios - Town?
Melodie - Town?
Psychic - Indy?
hammer
Santi

People who didn't quote Melodie:

Stelios - Town?
Vaeny - Draven
Psychic - Indy?
hammer

hammer is literally the best lead we have at this point. Mafia risked getting blocked by Melodie's protection when they went after Legend. When they could've killed one of the above. I don't see any logic behind Stelios being mafia. Vaeny is confirmed town. I've been reading Psychic town all game and she claimed indy. Which leaves hammer.
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Marco said:
LIST OF ACTIONS

Spoiler:
DAY 1
Spoiler:

Pantheon used Grand Skyfall to land on post #180, superkilling Laix (???)!

Illaoi used Test of Spirit to lie detect the following post:
Marco is telling the truth.

Lux used Illumination to reveal one ???.


Lissandra used Frozen Tomb to role crush ???

Draven has executed Saturno (Amumu)!


NIGHT 1
Spoiler:

Nocturne used Paranoia! The game has been shrouded in darkness!


DAY 2
Spoiler:

Miss Fortune used Bullet Time to kill Familyparka (Nami) and WAD (Evelynn)!
Katarina used Bouncing Blades to faction kill Superman (???)!

Jarvan (Alwaysmind) used The Crown to assume his rightful position as king!
Nami used Tidal Wave to drown out the game! All lynch votes have been reset and I will now disclose who was targeted last night:


Illaoi used Test of Spirit to lie detect the following post:

This post does not contain a lie.

Hammer targeted Alwaysmind.

Draven used League of Draven to redirect the lynch! Draven has executed Lord Genome (Illaoi)!
Paranoia has subsided. All of the additional rules enacted by Nocturne have been redacted. Voting has returned to normal and masons may resume communication.


NIGHT 2
Spoiler:

Katarina used Bouncing Blades to faction kill Chaos (???) and Remchu (???)!


DAY 3
Spoiler:

Draven has executed Baroxio (Katarina)!


NIGHT 3
Spoiler:

Pantheon has faction killed SinRaven (???)!
Superman has been reborn amid a terrible storm, roleblocking all other players for the rest of the cycle!


DAY 4
Spoiler:

Crescent Nyx (Janna) and Viper (Orianna) have been modkilled due to inactivity.

VoDe (Yorick) has been lynched!


NIGHT 4
Spoiler:

The storm has subsided.


DAY 5
Spoiler:

Draven has executed Persecuted (LeBlanc)!


NIGHT 5
Spoiler:

Pantheon has faction killed WolfPrinceKiba (Shen)!


DAY 6
Spoiler:

Caitlyn used Headshot to kill Atlantic Storm (Zed)!

Draven has executed Franky (Lissandra)!


LISSANDRA DEAD. FOLLOWING WRITE-UPS 100% ACCURATE

NIGHT 6
Spoiler:

Pantheon has faction killed Firestormer (Vayne)!


DAY 7
Spoiler:

Draven has executed Belphegoob (Pantheon)!


NIGHT 7
Spoiler:

Nocturne has faction killed Legend (Lulu)!


DAY 8
Spoiler:

Ace (Lucian) has been modkilled for inactivity.
Shy (Bard) has been modkilled for discussing the game outside of the thread.

Draven has executed Josuke (Fiora)!


NIGHT 8
Spoiler:

Caitlyn used Ace in the Hole to kill Laix (Ahri)!
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Details of how Lissandra's fake-write up works.

Marco said:
Read up Nitty's answers to my questions. He says mafia would have to either

1. Send in an action of their own and tell Nitty to change it via Lissandra's one-shot.
2. Would have to tell Nitty to change the next write up to whatever they want.

For Stelios' or my lie detect to be fake, mafia would have to predict when the lie detect is about to come, and then tell Nitty to do it. I was LD'd Day 1 in fact, so mafia didn't even have any reason to believe there would be a lie detector.

Also, LG never indicated that his lie detects were aimed at the wrong post. i.e. Mafia would not only have to predict when the lie detect is processed, but also who LG chose to lie detect.

Just not happening.
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Would appreciate everyone brainstorming to see if any other write up besides Jarvan could be fake.
 
I don't know if anyone targeted me last night

Anyway, Marco's theory doesn't work for the same reasons Sin stated before. If the message is about WPK, it makes no sense that sarun would send it to WPK. sarun also claimed he didn't send the message, so it must have been hammer who sent it

There is no way hammer is mafia

Then sarun apologizes to AM, as if the whole thing was a mix up

I just want AM to role reveal and say what he can do and what the whole "king" thing is about
 
Melodie said:
Maybe the Nitty edit with "Hammer targeted alwaysmind" is the fake write-up. :catghost
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Nitty said she Lissandra can't edit a write up that's already been posted.

sarun 100% died. We know Nocturne didn't hide any Day 2 actions. Pretty sure sarun kill was hidden via a fake write up. Why kill sarun if not to get heat off AM? And let's say "hammer targeted alwaysmind" was the write up used to hide the sarun kill. Besides it being added in later, which NItty said Lissandra cannot do, what would the point of killing sarun be after AM had proved himself town (if we're assuming AM reveal wasn't the fake write-up)?
 
Stelios said:
I m not worried about sworder at all. Just want to understand if he seen who em targeted him last night just like with Belphegoob
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Who targeted him last night? I don't think sworder saw anything.

Melodie said:
Mafia and jester literally discussing infront of us
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Psychic said:
No deal Marco. I can't trust you. What if u kill me tonight? I prefer to be lynch today.
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I'm 100% town.

Requoting:

Marco said:
This is why I should always keep notes. I remember actually discussing all this but had no memory of the whole thing.


So, sarun was hard pushing AM didn't receive any message. We know sarun targeted WPK. We know Legend bus drove WPK and WAD. So, WAD is the one who actually received a message. All this while, hammer is ignoring what's happening between sarun and AM. sarun is going viagra hard on AM and suddenly comes the write up "Alwaysmind is Jarvan". And after a while Nitty adds "hammer targeted Alwaysmind". And sarun drops a "thanks for the game".

NARRATIVE: WAD received message instead of WPK. Told his teammates. AM mentioned it. sarun said it's impossible cause he knew he sent it to WPK. sarun is going hardcore on AM. hammer is just trying to not be involved in this discussion. Mafia use a daykill to take out sarun (Nocturne's ability most likely) and Lissandra one-shot to change the write up to say "Alwaysmind is Jarvan". hammer probably targeted Alwaysmind at night (protection?). Suddenly, hammer claims he's the one who sent the message.

So, AM and hammer scum together, looks like.
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sworder said:
I don't know if anyone targeted me last night

Anyway, Marco's theory doesn't work for the same reasons Sin stated before. If the message is about WPK, it makes no sense that sarun would send it to WPK. sarun also claimed he didn't send the message, so it must have been hammer who sent it

There is no way hammer is mafia
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Did sarun every acknowledge the content of the post? And hammer claims sarun is the one who wrote the message and he sent it. So why was sarun so sure AM didn't receive any message?

sworder said:
Then sarun apologizes to AM, as if the whole thing was a mix up

I just want AM to role reveal and say what he can do and what the whole "king" thing is about
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sarun apologized after seeing the "Alwaysmind is King" write-up. He probably hadn't noticed his PM stating, "You ded" back then.


Also, what do you think about the fake write up thing. The timing is too coincidental for sarun's secret death and Alwaysmind's King reveal. For instance, why did sarun's death not get any write up? Nocturne only hid the Night write up. Every action used in the day got a write up. Even Katarina's faction kill on Supes.
 
I'm not bp, I can just kill the first person that targets me. Unfortunately Belph was that person

Marco said:
Did sarun every acknowledge the content of the post? And hammer claims sarun is the one who wrote the message and he sent it. So why was sarun so sure AM didn't receive any message?
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I don't think sarun acknowledged it, but I would think he would claim it was wrong if it was

and when did hammer claim that sarun wrote it? I thought hammer is the one that wrote it, since AM said it had hammer's grammar. now I am confused :hm

Marco said:
sarun apologized after seeing the "Alwaysmind is King" write-up. He probably hadn't noticed his PM stating, "You ded" back then.


Also, what do you think about the fake write up thing. The timing is too coincidental for sarun's secret death and Alwaysmind's King reveal. For instance, why did sarun's death not get any write up? Nocturne only hid the Night write up. Every action used in the day got a write up. Even Katarina's faction kill on Supes.
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I have to think about this more, I'll get back to you

Alwaysmind said:
Townie lynching a confirmed townie :facepalm
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what are your abilities?

just post them tbh
 
sworder said:
I don't think sarun acknowledged it, but I would think he would claim it was wrong if it was
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He was claiming throughout that am sad lying about the message. I'm on my phone now I'll check later but maybe you could also have a look. I linked the post a page of two back. Read up from when am claims he got a message to a little bit after saruns death comes to light.

and when did hammer claim that sarun wrote it? I thought hammer is the one that wrote it, since AM said it had hammer's grammar. now I am confused :hm
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Hammer was telling all the while that he sent it but someone else wrote it. This phase he revealed it was sarun. He also said his message kills whoever gets it. Then how did sarun does instead of am?

have to think about this more, I'll get back to you
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Yes please. Points to consider

1. Why was saruns death not in a write up when even the Katarina kill had a write up?
2. Why was saruns death time exactly with the AM King post?
3. What else could be the fake write up?
 
sworder said:
I don't think sarun acknowledged it, but I would think he would claim it was wrong if it was
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He was claiming throughout that am sad lying about the message. I'm on my phone now I'll check later but maybe you could also have a look. I linked the post a page of two back. Read up from when am claims he got a message to a little bit after saruns death comes to light.

and when did hammer claim that sarun wrote it? I thought hammer is the one that wrote it, since AM said it had hammer's grammar. now I am confused :hm
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Hammer was telling all the while that he sent it but someone else wrote it. This phase he revealed it was sarun. He also said his message kills whoever gets it. Then how did sarun does instead of am?

have to think about this more, I'll get back to you
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Yes please. Points to consider

1. Why was saruns death not in a write up when even the Katarina kill had a write up?
2. Why was saruns death time exactly with the AM King post?
3. What else could be the fake write up?
 
I'll be back in a couple hours.

Please everyone go through the action last I posted. The case I made for AM. And keep these points in mind

1. Sarun kill didn't have a write up.
2. Am reveal happened exactly at home of sarun death. Even got nitty had already processed the kill actions.
3. What other write up could be fake?
 
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