League of Legends Mafia - Part 1

[Marco]

not the intended target, not really sure the day who we targeted was revealed, did someone target me, might have been a bus. or maybe they altered who targeted me to make it more confusing.
2. he died before he could use it. it's an active ability that happens at night.

So you guys didn't target AM with the message? Who did you target, then?

 

[Marco]

Also, what did sarun target WPK with?

 

[Marco]

At the end of the day, we know sarun's kill was edited to something else.

There's literally no write up besides AM's reveal that fits. Unless people have another option, please keep votes on AM. hammer's actually coming off sincere to me.

 

[sworder]

[sp]day 1

5. Alwaysmind - familyparka* > {NO LYNCH}* > Saturno* > Saturno

day 2

private votes

day 3

5. Alwaysmind - Baroxio

day 4

Alwaysmind - Franky > Josuke

day 5

Alwaysmind - Marco > unvote

day 6

Alwaysmind - no vote

day 7

Alwaysmind - Psychic > Marco

day 8

Alwaysmind - Josuke[/sp]

well, this doesn't help him

also, no one else targeted hammer or alwaysmind so he couldn't have been redirected

 

[Marco]

Nitty's comments on Lissandra's fake write-up.

Nitty, can you comment on the limits of the fake write up edit?

That really depends on the question being asked.

Well, it says edit a write up. So I'm assuming they can't just make a fake write up. I. E. They can only edit write up for an actual action.

So, were they updated before you made any write up?

Lissandra's one shot was the ability to replace a writeup with whatever she wanted. If she wanted to keep the entire true writeup and just change a few names or tack an extra detail on, that would be fine. If she wanted to remove all of the legit actions and make up an elaborate fake writeup that would also be fine. If she wanted to delete the writeup entirely or change it to "Marco eats farts," those things would also be fine. The point is that Lissandra makes you doubt your understanding of history.

And no, the mafia was not updated before I made writeups.

So wait, Lissandra could only edit write ups after you'd already posted them here?

Er no, that wasn't to say that she could edit writeups after they were posted. Just that I didn't go to Lissandra before posting each writeup to ask if she wanted to change it. It was on Lissandra to take the initiative, if that makes sense.

I mean, if they don't get updated, they'll see the write up for the first time like the rest of us.

Could they pre-emptively change their own write ups?

Eg: mafia sends in an action to use some action that a old get a write up and they ask you to change it to whatever Lissandra wants. Would that be possible?

But how would she know what actions or write ups you're gonna make? Is it pre-emptive? I. E. She says "change the next write up to so-and-so?

The answer to both of your questions is yes.

Okay, I think I get it.

Last thing. If she were to edit with a fake role on death. I.e. Let's say they attack me but instead of my role being revealed as Leona, it's revealed as someone else.

In this case, would my name in bt he player list also be whatever Lissandra chose?

 

[Marco]

@hammer,

one more question: if you knew AM wasn't the intended target, why weren't you also questioning AM with sarun? And since we know nobody targeted you that night, how could the message have been redirected to AM from your intended target?

Also, why were you so averse to revealing your role and sarun's earlier?

 

[sworder]

the rest of town, pls share opinions

 

[hammer]

I fucking lost what I typed




basically first of all, he was so sure, so fucking sure alwaysmind never got a pm

our intended target was franky



marco for your questions if we both jumped on his case it would make it seem too much like we were masons and second question there is no way for me to know until end game.


I mean would you guys have believed me earlier, look at all the janitor kills

 

[Stelios]

the link you posted gives: Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

What did you search and linked?

 

[Marco]

I fucking lost what I typed

Link doesn't work. Who's posts are you linking to?

basically first of all, he was so sure, so fucking sure alwaysmind never got a pm

our intended target was franky

How come you never told anyone that you targeted someone besides AM? When we all questioned you Day 2 after FP's action revealed you targeted AM?

marco for your questions if we both jumped on his case it would make it seem too much like we were masons and second question there is no way for me to know until end game.

I mean would you guys have believed me earlier, look at all the janitor kills

Doesn't matter if we would've believed you or not. That was crucial information. Your mason was secretly killed and you didn't think it important to reveal the context to all of us? Also, there was really no reason for you to hide it. And you made up all these restrictions and conditions about your ability? What was the point of all that?

Also, you missed this question:

Also, what did sarun target WPK with?

Lastly, complete transparency needed now. Post your and sarun's exact role. Post the exact message you sent AM. And tell us what sarun targeted WPK with.

 

[Marco]

Once again, we CANNOT split our votes today.

So, if people are not sure they can come and vote later, just don't vote for now.

 

[hammer]

Quinn
[Passive - Quinn and Valor] Quinn and Valor are masons and may communicate in their QT.
[Active - Harrier] During the night, Quinn can kill a Marked target.

Valor
[Passive - Quinn and Valor] Quinn and Valor are masons and may communicate in their QT.
[Active - Mark] During the night, Valor can deliver a message to another player. The targeted player is then Marked for the next cycle.


I didn't make anything up I said the message was sent but had no control on it or something right(hell I can even remember what I ate yesterday)


he also lied about targeting WPK

and what do you mean why didn't I target anyone else I COULDN'T FUCKING LOG ON besides after day two you all knew I can pm people, whats the point if you all know it was me

 

[Marco]

Quinn
[Passive - Quinn and Valor] Quinn and Valor are masons and may communicate in their QT.
[Active - Harrier] During the night, Quinn can kill a Marked target.

Valor
[Passive - Quinn and Valor] Quinn and Valor are masons and may communicate in their QT.
[Active - Mark] During the night, Valor can deliver a message to another player. The targeted player is then Marked for the next cycle.


I didn't make anything up I said the message was sent but had no control on it or something right(hell I can even remember what I ate yesterday)

You said there were conditions and shit to your message sending. And that the content was related to that.

he also lied about targeting WPK

Are you saying sarun lied about targeting WPK?

and what do you mean why didn't I target anyone else I COULDN'T FUCKING LOG ON besides after day two you all knew I can pm people, whats the point if you all know it was me

We already went over this. I was asking why you didn't tell us all that you actually didn't target AM that night with the message? When we questioned you, your response was something like, "my message has some conditions about who it goes to but I can't reveal anything".

@Bolded, then why did you target sworder last night?

 

[hammer]

it was not so much conditions, more so a combination of being fucking tierd of people using my ability and risk fucking me over, and not wanting to be a target. if I said something like there is a reason it happened the way it did maybe mafia would leave me alone. as well I could see who would pressure me back then

and as far as targeting sworder goes I wanted to test something, I was not informed alwaysmind got my pm. so made I am a bastard role, or if it did go threw see if I got a confirmation pm from nitty, which I did not.

 

[Marco]

Well, that was not very smart, I'd say. You should've told everyone about sarun being masons with you. You should've been straight up about everything. You can see your role was practically useless once sarun died, so there was no reason to invent shit to have mafia leave you alone. Doesn't make sense to me.


Also you didn't answer this.

Are you saying sarun lied about targeting WPK?

 

[hammer]

sorry I thought I answered that.

yes he was

 

[Marco]

sorry I thought I answered that.

yes he was

Then how do you explain this?

Remchu targeted Belphegoob
Chaos targeted Stelios
sworder targeted Belphegoob
Laix targeted Stelios
Firestormer targeted Sarun
Baroxio targeted Degaforce
Sarun targeted WPK
Sin targeted WAD
Legend targeted Marco, WPK and WAD
Hammer targeted Alwaysmind

 

[Marco]

Also, for context, these are the posts I meant about hammer talking about the conditions of his role.

I can not disclose the information of which I obtained publicly

there are reasons that it was sent which I can not say publicly

I'm not allowed to talk too much.

 

[hammer]

how the fuck am I supposed to know this whole game has write ups being altered im being very fourthcoming here.

wouldn't it be easier for me to just say yea we targeted always mind just because we could and left him alone after the reveal?

 

[Marco]

sorry I thought I answered that.

yes he was

Then how do you explain this?

Remchu targeted Belphegoob
Chaos targeted Stelios
sworder targeted Belphegoob
Laix targeted Stelios
Firestormer targeted Sarun
Baroxio targeted Degaforce
Sarun targeted WPK
Sin targeted WAD
Legend targeted Marco, WPK and WAD
Hammer targeted Alwaysmind

Adding on, I don't remember sarun ever saying he targeted WPK. I asked you the question only because of it being revealed by Nitty.

 

[Marco]

how the fuck am I supposed to know this whole game has write ups being altered im being very fourthcoming here.

wouldn't it be easier for me to just say yea we targeted always mind just because we could and left him alone after the reveal?

Only one write-up can be altered. And mafia can't know in advance what write up they're altering unless they alter their own action's write-up.

So, no, this wasn't an edit by the mafia. sarun targeted WPK. He also never said he targeted WPK, IIRC. So, why are you saying he lied about targeting WPK?

 

[Marco]

how the fuck am I supposed to know this whole game has write ups being altered im being very fourthcoming here.

wouldn't it be easier for me to just say yea we targeted always mind just because we could and left him alone after the reveal?

That's what you said, though.

During Day 2, you admitted that you sent a message to AM. Why didn't you tell us it was actually Franky you sent the message to?

 

[hammer]

I said he lied because I miss read what you said I thought you said did he lie. again saying somehing else like we targeted WPK or alwaysmind and adding just one more line of text would have been so much easier on me as a lie

 

[hammer]

I said I targeted alwaysmind because that was the end result but not the actual happening

 

[Melodie]

Marco, AM implicated that he has extra voting power (god knows how much though..), which was a fair assumption by me considering that he's the King. At this point, and knowing how AM behaves as mafia, I trust him over hammer.

Eggs on my face if he flips town but VERY doubtful. Confident tbh. Going to sleep on that .

[Vote Lynch Hammer]

 

[Marco]

@Melodie, are you seriously discarding all the evidence against AM because

1. He says he has power votes. = How does this mean he's not scum?
2. Your meta read on him. = Strange as fuck as his meta this game is similar to his scum meta, not town meta.

 

[hammer]

didn't you already vote for me

I made my case and there is nothing left to say except we still don't know nocturnes other abilities.

 

[hammer]

also is there a clear target besides AM and I? I want a clear target, and while AM is tempting this late game I don't want to vote to save my hide and risk losing a town role

 

[Marco]

There's like 8 hours till game end, my tinfoil scum read on Melodie is really strong now. This "I'm off to sleep" doesn't sit well with me considering the pile-up of evidence against AM.

I honestly can't decide about hammer but the case against AM is literally foolproof. Only doubt here is the wait on Nitty to answer my question.

 

[Melodie]

You kidding me it's 2 am.

 

[Marco]

Explain .

Just stay awake for an hour or two please. I'll explain why I said AM is in his scum meta in just a minute. But do me a favor and explain the faults in my case against AM.

 

[Jeroen]

I have a headache...

Catching up on this madness of a game didn't help. :/

 

[Marco]

Look, Melodie, don't get me wrong, hammer is very likely mafia. But the case against him is sort of 50-50. For instance, if he's really mafia, why even reveal sarun as his mason partner.

On the other side, the case against AM is quite foolproof. The only defense for AM is that the player list has him as Jarvan. And I think even that's not a stretch. Just waiting on Nitty to come and explain.

 

[Melodie]

Okay I'm here for AM meta explanation.

Thing is, it's hard to consider it "faults against AM". You bring solid points, even though the entire situation leaves me mind boggled. But hammer is straight up lying in his posts, Why should I look past that?

 

[Marco]

Melodie, did you play Law's FF game? Where AM and Psychic won as mafia?

Basically,

AM's Town Meta - Lot of strange posts and ideas that make people go "lolwhut". But more importantly, town AM is very engaged unless he has a role that prompts him to lay low (eg: vigilante, cop, etc)
AM's Scum Meta - Laying low and trying to not stand out. It's sort of similar to his PR meta but he has already claimed he doesn't have any such abilities.

There is a reason so many people found AM scummy and only backed off because of the Jarvan reveal.

 

[Melodie]

You said we should pressure alwaysmind this phase because hammer is gone. It's literally the opposite now, why are you pursuing lynch before any kind of valid pressure occur? It just screams alwaysmind that he wouldn't share his abilities in thread as a townie tbh. His attitude in this game reminds me of vanillafia: traitor among us. and I was mafia in that, so it is more distinctive from my perspective.

 

[Marco]

Okay I'm here for AM meta explanation.

Thing is, it's hard to consider it "faults against AM". You bring solid points, even though the entire situation leaves me mind boggled. But hammer is straight up lying in his posts, Why should I look past that?

hammer isn't really the most vigilant person or the one with the best memory. I'm literally giving him the benefit of doubt similarly to how I gave Stelios the benefit of doubt this entire game and it paid off.

A lot of things he say come across as fabricated. But it's not like they can't be explained by "poor play". On the other hand, the case against AM is mechanically sound. I can't think of any other way sarun kill could've been hidden. It's especially incriminating because sarun was going so fucking hard on AM.

Some things to consider about hammer possibly being town:
1. Why reveal sarun as one part of the Quinn, Valor duo?
2. Why not just claim a simpler role?
3. Why even come back today after we shifted wagons to Alwaysmind when he could've disappeared on the China excuse?

Also, can you point what lies by hammer you're specifically referring to?

 

[Marco]

You said we should pressure alwaysmind this phase because hammer is gone. It's literally the opposite now, why are you pursuing lynch before any kind of valid pressure occur? It just screams alwaysmind that he wouldn't share his abilities in thread as a townie tbh. His attitude in this game reminds me of vanillafia: traitor among us. and I was mafia in that, so it is more distinctive from my perspective.

Why do you think? The case against AM is foolproof according to me.

Tell me the fault in it or explain how else sarun kill was hidden and I'll back off AM.

The case against hammer can be explained away by "poor play". Again, don't get me wrong, hammer is just as likely to be scum than town. But at least there's some leeway there. I literally can't think of any reason AM reveal wasn't the fake write up.

 

[Marco]

@Melodie, here's a request:

Unless you can give a good alternative to AM reveal write up being faked, and unless you think I'm scum trying to save hammer, please just trust in me and keep your vote on AM.

Alternatively, please stay awake for longer so I can convince you or you can convince me.

 

[Melodie]

1) Being Roleblocked
2) Excusing his message usage
3) Suggesting that Sarun did not target WPK despite the write-up, which then he claims to be fake write-up until he backpedals from it.

 

[Melodie]

Thing is, you can't really be suspicious of both of them at this point. Both of their alignments depend on which write-up is faked. If one flips mafia, the other is town. Which crashes the theory of both of them being mafia.

 

[Marco]

1) Being Roleblocked
2) Excusing his message usage
3) Suggesting that Sarun did not target WPK despite the write-up, which then he claims to be fake write-up until he backpedals from it.

1. He definitely targeted sworder, according to himself and Stelios. But sworder didn't receive any message. He should know that RB targets are notified, yes, but this can be explained away by "poor play" or "it's hammer".
2. Not sure what you're referring to, exactly.
3. First, consider that I'm the one who caught him in this "lie". He's saying sarun never targeted WPK, so when I asked him "why sarun targeted WPK", he thought sarun had said so. After pointing out sarun never said so, he assume it could be fake write-up. Backpedals after my explanation. This can again be explained away by "not paying enough attention all game", "poor play", and "it's hammer".

Basically, there is a good chance for his lies actually being misunderstandings.


But, what is the explanation for sarun kill and AM reveal?

 

[Jeroen]

[Vote Lynch Alwaysmind]

Now to go sleep.

 

[Marco]

Thing is, you can't really be suspicious of both of them at this point. Both of their alignments depend on which write-up is faked. If one flips mafia, the other is town. Which crashes the theory of both of them being mafia.

Can you, please, just tell me how the sarun kill works if not for fake AM reveal?

I'm running a lot of scenarios in my head right now and also actively participating in another game, so I haven't been able to run the hammer scenario conclusively enough to satisfy my itch. i.e. I want to read entire Day 2, reread sarun and hammer's posts, and possibly ask hammer more questions before I'll be able to come to a conclusion there.

So, for now, I'm not convinced they have to be opposite alignments. But I am convinced that AM's reveal was used to hide sarun kill. Which means AM is scum.

 

[Jeroen]

Also, I'm currently thinking there are 2 mafia left, not 1.

Now to wonder if I'm right.

 

[Marco]

I understand the case against hammer. But that doesn't change how strong the case against AM is.

If you can't give an alternative, then you have to concede that AM reveal was fake. Therefore, he's scum. This lead is a lot more conclusive than hammer.

 

[Melodie]

UH. Whatever. I want to sleep, so I will #trust. [Vote Lynch Alwaysmind]

If he doesn't flip mafia don't try wasting our lynch on Psychic cuz of your deal, that'd be ridiculous.

I really have no alternative mechanic legitimate explanation, I'm/I was simply basing it off who seemed classically more suspicious through their posts (vanilla-perspective)

 

[Marco]

Also, I'm currently thinking there are 2 mafia left, not 1.

Now to wonder if I'm right.

Same. Though one is also possible, it's probably two, at this point.

 

[Marco]

UH. Whatever. I want to sleep, so I will #trust. [Vote Lynch Alwaysmind]

If he doesn't flip mafia don't try wasting our lynch on Psychic cuz of your deal, that'd be ridiculous.

I really have no alternative mechanic legitimate explanation, I'm/I was simply basing it off who seemed classically more suspicious through their posts (vanilla-perspective)

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

Don't worry about the Psychic thing. There's no deal, I just wanted her to vote AM.

Barring Nitty's answer to my query, I don't think anything will convince me of AM's innocence unless someone has an alternative to how sarun's kill was hidden. I really do want people to think upon this. This would be hella embarrassing if I'm wrong about AM, so even the most tinfoil counters to the AM case are welcome.

If something does come up, then with a couple vote changes and AM's vote power, we should be able to prevent his death.

 

[hammer]

[vote lynch alwaysmind]

hopefully after I make a post in my PF game im in I can go to sleep fuckers woke me up 4 in the morning to honk their horns outside

 

[Marco]

Now to wait for Nitty.

 

[Marco]

Also, any suggestions on why hammer targeted Franky but FP's reveal showed him targeting Alwaysmind?

 

[Alwaysmind]

Marco is scum for sure. No way you would lynch a confirmed townie.

 

[Marco]

Alwaysmind, can you give any suggestion where sarun's kill could've been hidden except for your Jarvan reveal?

 

[Marco]

Marco is scum for sure. No way you would lynch a confirmed townie.

Does that mean everyone else voting you is also scum for sure?

Let's not exchange "You're scum" like children here. Can you provide a valid explanation to where sarun's kill could've been hidden?

 

[Alwaysmind]

I have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[Alwaysmind]

I role revealed, now where is yours marco.

 

[Marco]

On the topic of hammer, assuming he's town, anyone has ideas on how sarun shows up as targeting WPK and why hammer targeted Franky but there's no such indication in FP's reveal?

Fake write up doesn't work because mafia couldn't have known FP was going to do that exactly when he did it. Unless we assume they faked the whole "action reveal" thing. But in that case, why implicate Baroxio? And how would they know the correct targets of every other player on the list.

 

[Alwaysmind]

On the topic of hammer, assuming he's town, anyone has ideas on how sarun shows up as targeting WPK and why hammer targeted Franky but there's no such indication in FP's reveal?

Fake write up doesn't work because mafia couldn't have known FP was going to do that exactly when he did it. Unless we assume they faked the whole "action reveal" thing. But in that case, why implicate Baroxio? And how would they know the correct targets of every other player on the list.

I think you are over thinking this.

 

[Marco]

I have no clue what you are talking about.

Have you read nothing this phase? I have been repeating this consistently.

LIST OF ACTIONS

Spoiler:

DAY 1

Spoiler:

Pantheon used Grand Skyfall to land on post #180, superkilling Laix (???)!

Illaoi used Test of Spirit to lie detect the following post:
Marco is telling the truth.

Lux used Illumination to reveal one ???.


Lissandra used Frozen Tomb to role crush ???

Draven has executed Saturno (Amumu)!

NIGHT 1

Spoiler:

Nocturne used Paranoia! The game has been shrouded in darkness!

DAY 2

Spoiler:

Miss Fortune used Bullet Time to kill Familyparka (Nami) and WAD (Evelynn)!
Katarina used Bouncing Blades to faction kill Superman (???)!

Jarvan (Alwaysmind) used The Crown to assume his rightful position as king!
Nami used Tidal Wave to drown out the game! All lynch votes have been reset and I will now disclose who was targeted last night:


Illaoi used Test of Spirit to lie detect the following post:

This post does not contain a lie.

Hammer targeted Alwaysmind.

Draven used League of Draven to redirect the lynch! Draven has executed Lord Genome (Illaoi)!
Paranoia has subsided. All of the additional rules enacted by Nocturne have been redacted. Voting has returned to normal and masons may resume communication.

NIGHT 2

Spoiler:

Katarina used Bouncing Blades to faction kill Chaos (???) and Remchu (???)!

DAY 3

Spoiler:

Draven has executed Baroxio (Katarina)!

NIGHT 3

Spoiler:

Pantheon has faction killed SinRaven (???)!
Superman has been reborn amid a terrible storm, roleblocking all other players for the rest of the cycle!

DAY 4

Spoiler:

Crescent Nyx (Janna) and Viper (Orianna) have been modkilled due to inactivity.

VoDe (Yorick) has been lynched!

NIGHT 4

Spoiler:

The storm has subsided.

DAY 5

Spoiler:

Draven has executed Persecuted (LeBlanc)!

NIGHT 5

Spoiler:

Pantheon has faction killed WolfPrinceKiba (Shen)!

DAY 6

Spoiler:

Caitlyn used Headshot to kill Atlantic Storm (Zed)!

Draven has executed Franky (Lissandra)!

LISSANDRA DEAD. FOLLOWING WRITE-UPS 100% ACCURATE

NIGHT 6

Spoiler:

Pantheon has faction killed Firestormer (Vayne)!

DAY 7

Spoiler:

Draven has executed Belphegoob (Pantheon)!

NIGHT 7

Spoiler:

Nocturne has faction killed Legend (Lulu)!

DAY 8

Spoiler:

Ace (Lucian) has been modkilled for inactivity.
Shy (Bard) has been modkilled for discussing the game outside of the thread.

Draven has executed Josuke (Fiora)!

NIGHT 8

Spoiler:

Caitlyn used Ace in the Hole to kill Laix (Ahri)!

Details of how Lissandra's fake-write up works.

Read up Nitty's answers to my questions. He says mafia would have to either

1. Send in an action of their own and tell Nitty to change it via Lissandra's one-shot.
2. Would have to tell Nitty to change the next write up to whatever they want.

Go through these.

Secondly,

sarun's death happened without a write up. Which means his death was hidden in a write up. The timing of his death also coincides exactly with your Jarvan reveal.

So, please show me where else sarun's death could've been hidden.

 

[Marco]

I think you are over thinking this.

Whut?

So, the fact that hammer claims he targeted Franky but you getting targeted instead isn't suspicious to you? Or that hammer says sarun didn't target anyone but FP's reveal shows that sarun targeted WPK?

 

[Marco]

I role revealed, now where is yours marco.

I role revealed last phase. Please read, AM.

I'm Leona. I have just one ability which is a one-shot active.

[One Shot Active ? Solar Flare] ? Leona becomes the avatar of the sun, extending the current day phase until a majority vote has been reached. During this time all other players are rendered generic until they make a post praising the sun. At the end of the day Leona can cast her sunlight upon one player, revealing their alignment to the thread.

This should also make it clear why I said that I could prove my role any time I wanted.

 

[Alwaysmind]

Maybe saruns death was not showed because Mafia rewrote it as blank. Ever thought about that?

 

[Marco]

Maybe saruns death was not showed because Mafia rewrote it as blank. Ever thought about that?

Why would mafia waste their one-shot to just hide a kill when they can also use it to implicate someone or clear one of their own? Am I to believe a mafia team with Belphegoob and WAD is this fucking retarded?

 

[Marco]

Also, I think that is a bit unfair to town, so I don't think Lissandra could do a blank.

Each action should be treated as a separate write up. Or Lissandra could wait until a time when Nitty has to post a lot of actions and she can just hide all the actions from us.

Basically, I think Lissandra's write-up can only change a single action, not all the actions in a single post (write-up) by Nitty. Thus, I don't think mafia can just make an action blank. Otherwise, I think Nitty would have to make it obvious that there is a "blank" write-up.

 

[Alwaysmind]

Also, I think that is a bit unfair to town, so I don't think Lissandra could do a blank.

Each action should be treated as a separate write up. Or Lissandra could wait until a time when Nitty has to post a lot of actions and she can just hide all the actions from us.

Basically, I think Lissandra's write-up can only change a single action, not all the actions in a single post (write-up) by Nitty. Thus, I don't think mafia can just make an action blank. Otherwise, I think Nitty would have to make it obvious that there is a "blank" write-up.

You won't believe theybwould use a blank but youbare ready to believe mafia can change the OP?

 

[Marco]

You won't believe theybwould use a blank but youbare ready to believe mafia can change the OP?

Can you explain why they would make a blank write-up when they could have cleared one of their own or incriminated a townie??

You want me to believe mafia is that retarded?

Also, who did you vote for when VoDe was lynched?

 

[Alwaysmind]

My votes were pretty stupid granted. But there was also a reason I abstained from voting, my voting bonus.

 

[Marco]

My votes were pretty stupid granted. But there was also a reason I abstained from voting, my voting bonus.

You'd said you had voted Franky the VoDe lynch day but before the day could get over, you shifted to Josuke? Why is that?

 

[Marco]

And tell me your vote power.

 

[Alwaysmind]

You'd said you had voted Franky the VoDe lynch day but before the day could get over, you shifted to Josuke? Why is that?

If I wasn't confident I voted randomly, if I saw the wagon change I had to go with the wagon.

 

[Marco]

It's a simple question. The delay just makes me think that you're discussing an appropriate response in a QT.

 

[Alwaysmind]

And tell me your vote power.

+2, negligible

 

[Alwaysmind]

Did you use your ability yet Marco?

 

[Marco]

Always, or did it change after your King reveal?

 

[Marco]

Did you use your ability yet Marco?

This is a joke, right?

 

[Alwaysmind]

Yes. I told you peasants that my ability was to role reveal in exchange for a bonus. My vote power was 1 before that.

 

[Alwaysmind]

This is a joke, right?

Just answer the question, I forgot okay.

 

[Marco]

Also, by +2, you mean 3, right?

Yes. I told you peasants that my ability was to role reveal in exchange for a bonus. My vote power was 1 before that.

I would've thought your vote power would decrease. Like, giving up vote power to prove yourself to your people.

Just answer the question, I forgot okay.

You forgot that I've been role-crushed since Day 1?

 

[Alwaysmind]

Also, by +2, you mean 3, right?



I would've thought your vote power would decrease. Like, giving up vote power to prove yourself to your people.



You forgot that I've been role-crushed since Day 1?

How convenient.didnt vsquirtle use a similar excuse on another game?
You could just have easily taken a role from the janitored.