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Mohit said:
Lol my post literally says why and me going back and forth with waffle and UB clearly explains that I m not anymore :drake
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I meant why were you hung up on it in the first place? What value did discussing usurping the king (unless arsing around ofc) have at this stage? Mainly becasue we don't know if he was a tyrant or not. That's what I wanted to know, rather than if you still talk with it or not.

Your thought process in summary is what I'm after.
 
MSAL said:
I meant why were you hung up on it in the first place? What value did discussing usurping the king (unless arsing around ofc) have at this stage? Mainly becasue we don't know if he was a tyrant or not. That's what I wanted to know, rather than if you still talk with it or not.

Your thought process in summary is what I'm after.
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My thought process is simple I m not comfortable with one person having the final say in who to lynch and who to not. I not confident enough in single person so skill of scum hunting mo matter who it is or how experienced he is. But i m willing to give him a chance if he won't to go with mass's decision or not. If not then I don't see no point him keeping him around in power.
Also you said userpe but it's not what we are trying to do here is it? We are dethroning him and setting up a democracy. Though there is a chance of scum dictating the lynch here but that's the same with every mafia game so I don't see any harm in have the same here
 
Dr. White said:
so oko is scum :blobcry
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Cooooooo! (You guys tend to say that regardless of what he says :distracted. But really, he's not. Okosan doesn't know what part of the post leads you to believe that, but if it's the iwandesu lynch vote it's part because he thinks the alignment would be useful to know and part because Okosan thinks iwandesu isn't town. If we figured that out (one way or the other) then that could be a solid point to look at interactions between players with known information.)

COOO! (And if you have questions for Okosan he would be glad to answer them.)
 
Okosan said:
Cooooooo! (You guys tend to say that regardless of what he says :distracted. But really, he's not. Okosan doesn't know what part of the post leads you to believe that, but if it's the iwandesu lynch vote it's part because he thinks the alignment would be useful to know and part because Okosan thinks iwandesu isn't town. If we figured that out (one way or the other) then that could be a solid point to look at interactions between players with known information.)

COOO! (And if you have questions for Okosan he would be glad to answer them.)
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But you didn't say this. You seemed on the fence about alignment and seemed completely cool with wasting a tonwie.
 
Mohit said:
My thought process is simple I m not comfortable with one person having the final say in who to lynch and who to not.
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Sure, and I understand why you may not like that. However, this line of thought would make more sense if two qualifiers were met;

1) The king was shown to listen to the majority or not, and made horrible decisions, becoming a corrupt king. We won't know until the lynch has been met.

2) Until we know whether or not a new "king" will take his place or not.

Bear in mind, that the king is a power role, with influence on the vote. He could be useful for ousting a mafia or saving a townie at the decisive point. Removing that role at this early stage only leaves a power vacuum that the mafia could fill. There is only one king, but many of the other roles. Keeping him alive until he needs to be ousted would be wise for those reasons.
I not confident enough in single person so skill of scum hunting mo matter who it is or how experienced he is.
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Some people have good instinct and good processes. We would only know further down the line how important that decision making would be, not now. Unless we wanted to cause chaos.



But i m willing to give him a chance if he won't to go with mass's decision or not. If not then I don't see no point him keeping him around in power.
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If you think carefully, until his hand has been played, there are reasons you would keep him around.


Also you said userpe but it's not what we are trying to do here is it? We are dethroning him and setting up a democracy. Though there is a chance of scum dictating the lynch here but that's the same with every mafia game so I don't see any harm in have the same here
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Well, peasants removing the king would be a usurpation of power, no matter what the alignment is. Mafia may benefit if he is removed too early in the game. We will only know with time.


Fair enough on your thoughts for now though.
 
Dr. White said:
Not feeling good about msal. Also not too fond at plat's reasoning looking back
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Then explain your reasoning, don't just try to a bandwagon, with an offhand remark.

Why aren't "you feeling good"


Just to point out, in my long post further up, I gave a glaring clue to where my alignment was, and anyone who has any historical knowledge or investigative nous would clip onto it.
 
MSAL said:
Then explain your reasoning, don't just try to a bandwagon, with an offhand remark.

Why aren't "you feeling good"


Just to point out, in my long post further up, I gave a glaring clue to where my alignment was, and anyone who has any historical knowledge or investigative nous would clip onto it.
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Because you were completely absent this phase and I find your king arguments completly insincere. Pulling this bs " king losing power will out mafia at advantage" nonsense, especially this early with 0 town dead and town eith obvious majority. Seems like you want a king in power so he can potentially fuck up, and your arguments against are lolworthy
 
Dr. White said:
But you didn't say this. You seemed on the fence about alignment and seemed completely cool with wasting a tonwie.
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Coo! COOO! (Reading back at what he wrote, Okosan can see where you would have interpreted it like that. He was trying to say something similar with fewer words. He'll elaborate more next time. Him talking about iwandesu acting weird was supposed to be akin to him saying he was unsure about iwandesu being town. And no, he's not cool with killing a townie. He was trying to say that regardless of iwandesu's alignment, it could tell us things. He would obviously (though apparently not in this case) be hoping he was bad. It's just that it wouldn't be the end of the world if he was just a vanilla townie like claimed. So instead of a 1/10 it would be a 2/10 kind of thing. We could work off of interactions even if Okosan's wrong.)
 
Dr. White said:
Because you were completely absent this phase
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I met the required posts, and the phase is 48 hours. Have you heard of weekends or time zones?

and I find your king arguments completly insincere. Pulling this bs " king losing power will out mafia at advantage" nonsense, especially this early with 0 town dead and town eith obvious majority.
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This is dense. There is only one king. If multiple people claim king, then we know someone is lying, so it narrows the field. Anyone can hide behind the role of a peasant, for example and blend in early on.

Also, I pointed out my other reason, in that the king could play a decisive role. So your rebuttal is nonsensical, especially given we don't know what the king can/can not do at this stage, and could be pivotal in say, stopping a mafia led bandwagon..


Seems like you want a king in power so he can potentially fuck up, and your arguments against are lolworthy
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My arguments are common sense for anyone who has anything above a half wit. Try again.
 
MSAL said:
I met the required posts, and the phase is 48 hours. Have you heard of weekends or time zones?



This is dense. There is only one king. If multiple people claim king, then we know someone is lying, so it narrows the field. Anyone can hide behind the role of a peasant, for example and blend in early on.

Also, I pointed out my other reason, in that the king could play a decisive role. So your rebuttal is nonsensical, especially given we don't know what the king can/can not do at this stage, and could be pivotal in say, stopping a mafia led bandwagon..




My arguments are common sense for anyone who has anything above a half wit. Try again.
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Meeting the required post amount means jackshit lmao.

Ok we all know there is only one king lmao. You think the king is actually gonna claim? Topkek? That's still not an argument to justify your bullshit logic.

Yes obviosuly and the king could also be a fucking idiot. You are legit just listing obvious conclusions about the kings role lmao, none of this is relevant to our current conversation, and mafia led bandwagon is always a threat... but town still has majority... so if mafia was going to fool town with a wagon at this point they could very well fool the king as well given only mafia knows alignments....

Yeah feeling even more confident in you being scum.
 
Dr. White said:
Meeting the required post amount means jackshit lmao.
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It's stating a fact, not an attempt to "defend". Inactive is not voting at all, as numerous people have yet to still do, lol. Use common sense.

Ok we all know there is only one king lmao. You think the king is actually gonna claim? Topkek? That's still not an argument to justify your bullshit logic.
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Have you never heard of subtlety? Obviously not given the fact I've already given numerous references to where my alignment is now, and is constantly being ignored. Too bad mafia is jumping on a bandwagon eh.

Yes obviosuly and the king could also be a fucking idiot. You are legit just listing obvious conclusions about the kings role lmao, none of this is relevant to our current conversation, and mafia led bandwagon is always a threat... but town still has majority... so if mafia was going to fool town with a wagon at this point they could very well fool the king as well given only mafia knows alignments....
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Why are you continuing to not use common sense lol. As the phases progress and people get whittled down, if the mafia stays intact, they have multiple chances to gain a majority, get close to the majority they need, hence, they can manipulate the game.

If you read what I've stated throughout, I'm saying it's redundant to actually erase the king at this stage. Simple really. Why are you so desperate on this line of argument when we know nothing. nada, zilch, atm.

Yeah feeling even more confident in you being scum.
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Go for it bro, if you thiink I am.
 
MSAL said:
Have you never heard of subtlety? Obviously not given the fact I've already given numerous references to where my alignment is now, and is constantly being ignored. Too bad mafia is jumping on a bandwagon eh.



Why are you continuing to not use common sense lol. As the phases progress and people get whittled down, if the mafia stays intact, they have multiple chances to gain a majority, get close to the majority they need, hence, they can manipulate the game.
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Anyone can make vague references lmao.

How do you know mafia is on the bandwagon? If you were town and topvoted that would make sense but you aren't? So how do you know mafia is wagoning?

Ok? That's the same for EVERY FUCKING GAME. That's legit an inherent dynamic in mafia that as town gets wittled down mafia gets more effective with numbers. There are 46 fucking players here with 0 town dead so far, so town is lretty damn comfy as of now. You also know jackshit about the kings competency and yes while having a townie control the lynch is a plus we dinmt know how good his analysis is. Which means it's pretty much the same as a town majority deciding the lynch... i'm very curious as to why youmre so damn adamant about the king being a nexcissity or definant advantage
 
Dr. White said:
Anyone can make vague references lmao.
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Of course they can. It is up for investigators to do their job or other townies to decide if it is true or not. So, was I using a smart strategic mafia ploy by vaguely noting my allegiance or am I who I say I am?

Your call.

How do you know mafia is on the bandwagon? If you were town and topvoted that would make sense but you aren't? So how do you know mafia is wagoning?
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How do you know they are not?

It's day fucking one. This the chance for mafia to seep through the town cracks and hide themselves amongst town. I've been in plenty of games in the past, whereby mafia have literally took control of the game from day one, and steered everything, town following like sheep. WAD is quite good at that.


Ok? That's the same for EVERY FUCKING GAME. That's legit an inherent dynamic in mafia that as town gets wittled down mafia gets more effective with numbers. There are 46 fucking players here with 0 town dead so far, so town is lretty damn comfy as of now.
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Did you not understand what I was trying to say at all?

I was saying that if the king turned out to be a legit king, who wanted to help his peasants win, then his role could become more decisive as the game goes on, given that he can stop the mafia from bandwagoning a townie. Holy shit, it's not that hard to understand, lol.


You also know jackshit about the kings competency and yes while having a townie control the lynch is a plus we dinmt know how good his analysis is.
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:facepalm

Which is exactly why I've been saying why its redundant to want to eliminate him at this time. He could even be a red herring for all we know.

Which means it's pretty much the same as a town majority deciding the lynch... i'm very curious as to why youmre so damn adamant about the king being a nexcissity or definant advantage
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I'm very curious why you took an innocuous question by me to Mohit, asking for his thought process, and you're instantly and aggressively defending this notion. You're the one who is making this a big deal, not me.
 
Darth said:
If Alwaysmind gets lynched and turns up town I'm keeping an eye on these last minute bandwagoners that voted for him.
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There is no rush to vote yet though we have a lot of time it's 48 phase not 24 hours if someone does that they would probably be scum (who should die) ignorant townies ( when should probably die too imo)
So yeah I have to agree on those rust votes which basically hopped on the train instead of trying to justify their vote
 
Mohit said:
There is no rush to vote yet though we have a lot of time it's 48 phase not 24 hours if someone does that they would probably be scum (who should die) ignorant townies ( when should probably die too imo)
So yeah I have to agree on those rust votes which basically hopped on the train instead of trying to justify their vote
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The phase is over soon.

Are you actually just coasting or do you never say anything meaningful to contribute to the discussion?
 
Tiger said:
How was your date?

You're mafia, though, hey?
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Dr. White said:
@Mohit wassup? You gonna contribute brolmes? @Alwaysmind your dates over, give me some reads please.
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Went well, we both enjoyed the play.

As for my reads so far I’ve only been able to catch glimpses, I’ll need to shift through the thread in depth.

It was my understanding that the King was deciding the vote today though, so I didn’t think my opinion mattered much.
 
Alwaysmind said:
I’m going on a date, I think, so I’ll be out of action for two hours.
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Im still catching up. At P21 but this.cAught my attention. You should be back by now since its been more than 2 hours. I just have one question. Why didnt you just introduce your date to the game? Its the best chance you have to get a second date:awesome also im.just gonna pretend that I haven't learned on multiple occasions that jokes and about dont work well together:LOS:whistle
 
Mohit said:
There is no rush to vote yet though we have a lot of time it's 48 phase not 24 hours if someone does that they would probably be scum (who should die) ignorant townies ( when should probably die too imo)
So yeah I have to agree on those rust votes which basically hopped on the train instead of trying to justify their vote
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:drake
Phase is almost over...

Underworld Broker said:
What do we have to do with it when the king decides who gets lynched :drake
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:hm

Underworld Broker said:
Love how Mohit complained about the king and votes but didn't bother actually doing smth :dank
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Were you expecting anything less from him ?
 
Tiger said:
@Degaforce convinced me to reread the thread. I've decided on my vote for today, and sadly it's not Alwaysmind.









Except he doesn't have bad English, and his reading comprehension was just fine when talking about Priscilla, and following my posts enough to buddy up to me.

Admittedly, at the time, I was busy interrogating Iwan while at work, so I missed a few things. But one thing I don't like, is when someone tries to butter me up. I argued with Stelios and Jayjay, but at the end of the day-- they were involved in what I wanted, which was conversation and information. Jjcb just decided he liked how aggressive I was, and jumped on something no one else was talking about to help discredit Iwan.

The part where he says he thought Iwan meant he could depose the King on his own, is not very sincere to me. Consider that Jjcb's post about Iwan deposing the King was 10:30 am. Iwan's response asking him if he was mentally challenged was 11:44am. Jjcb then had until 1:34pm to realize he'd slipped, got help from his QT and came back with "it sounded like you could do it alone".

Iwan didn't press it, even gave him a way out. No one brought it up again. But I think this is a slip.




PM Nitty with your final 5.
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I would say good analysis except I dont know the people's play styles and I dont want you to feel buttered up. Also it might have been an over analysis not that im trying to protect anybody.

Degaforce said:
Yeah, and you tunneled your aggression mainly on iwan, which gave other dudes the chances to fly by you.
Namely Katsuargi, Cooler and Smileyman.
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What did I do? Sure I haven't been the most active, im trying. With a 40 player game there must be alot of people not active since there is only 30 pages.

Mohit said:
lol totally forgot he is even playing in this game
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Rude. How could you forget me.

Also I thought my previous comment was said out of time because I was fully.cAught up when I said it. Glad it wasnt.
 
Day 1 - Revan (Court) is executed
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    • The King executed Revan Reborn (The Royal Court)!

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    The Royal Court
    Follower of Lyssa

    wincon: keep the king in power

    [Passive - Aristocracy] - The Courtship know each others identities and can communicate outside the thread.

    Night 1 start. No more posting, no exceptions.    ​
     
    Day Two Quests

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    The Bandit Camp - 10 man raid

    The emergency supplies to the Northwatch Garrison were intercepted by the mountain-dwelling barbarians, and @Shiny was taken captive! Rather than ceding the north lands and Shiny's life, we will will march northward to end the bandit threat once and for all. The crown is seeking a group of stealthy travelers to march alongside the royal army and extract Shiny safely from the battlefield.

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    The Labyrinth - 10 man raid

    With the Forlorn Tower retaken, our most knowledgeable wizards and detectives were dispatched to scour the building for more information about the crime syndicate that once operated inside. We uncovered a hidden tunnel beneath the tower, although we didn't have long to explore it as the undead began pouring from underground like cockroaches! These zombies are are feeble and dim-witted, posing little threat to anyone willing to face them. The crown seeks the bravest among you to delve into the lair of the dead and uncover the truth beneath the tower.

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    The Enchanted Glade - 3 man expedition (followers of Melandru only)

    After meeting the magical creature harassing our kingdom face to face, we still cannot identify its origin. With even the royal library's oldest tomes yielding no answers, we must turn toward the patron of all animal life Melandru. Deep within the woodland is a clearing considered sacred to the druids and alchemists who study her teachings. The crown seeks three of Melandru's favored to gather on this holy land to beg for her wisdom before the beast claims another victim.    ​
     
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