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iwandesu said:
What do you mean by weak?
Os this something that happened on your Quest ?
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It started out as us going to the north and we were close to finishing our journey to northwatch garrison.

Bandits surrounded us and were looking at us as if we were some children.

We were pleading for our lives but the barbarians didn't even speak our language so it was for naught. They took our stuff and we had to go back, they told us we have to tell our king that the mountain regions got seized from him.

We turned around and wanted to leave but they stopped us again and took Shiny as slave.
 
Underworld Broker said:
It started out as us going to the north and we were close to finishing our journey to northwatch garrison.

Bandits surrounded us and were looking at us as if we were some children.

We were pleading for our lives but the barbarians didn't even speak our language so it was for naught. They took our stuff and we had to go back, they told us we have to tell our king that the mountain regions got seized from him.

We turned around and wanted to leave but they stopped us again and took Shiny as slave.
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Wow damn
Quests gotta be harsh i guess.
I mean 3 of our members Felt ill so yeah
 
iwandesu said:
Why are you rolefishing for the king ?
He Will Just be a peasant when we take his crown anyway
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It's not rolefishing as opposed to asking questions. It's meant more for the gamemaster.

Another thing no-one has bothered to ask any questions on, is the fact that it states he will lie during the game. Does that mean in write-ups, in actions...what?

Basic investigative questions.
 
Underworld Broker said:
It started out as us going to the north and we were close to finishing our journey to northwatch garrison.

Bandits surrounded us and were looking at us as if we were some children.

We were pleading for our lives but the barbarians didn't even speak our language so it was for naught. They took our stuff and we had to go back, they told us we have to tell our king that the mountain regions got seized from him.

We turned around and wanted to leave but they stopped us again and took Shiny as slave.
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:bookerskully

I'm only taking town reads with me to the glades, so inactives not gonna see the beauty of melandru
 
MSAL said:
It's not rolefishing as opposed to asking questions. It's meant more for the gamemaster.

Another thing no-one has bothered to ask any questions on, is the fact that it states he will lie during the game. Does that mean in write-ups, in actions...what?

Basic investigative questions.
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It means the quests might be a bastard mechanic where @Shizune is going to CR my jewel:catcry
 
Underworld Broker said:
Did y'all get a story too or was it just our group? :catthinks
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We were told that me, rem, and kira led the charge in and immediately fell ill. The rest went on to find nothing but old tomes and artifacts only usable by wizards. We then found a jewel that off put everyone so we had to vote for someone else to take it but ourselves. Iwan was voted.

I was pm'd seperately about my curse
 
iwandesu said:
@Katsuargi are you a peasant?
@Cooler are you going to straight up inactive ^ (not the meaning of the word "respect".).
@Alwaysmind what is your opinion on the king ?
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I didn't realise the phase had started man...and now it's close to my bedtime...so yeah I fucked up.

Your question to Alwaysmind is a bit of a weird one, we don't have confirmation on who the king actually is right? Basically got one action to go - not sure how this question could inform you of anyone's alignment, barring an intentionally scummy answer or something.
 
Btw. It's incredibly cold in the north, you better wear smth warm when we visit the bandits :ruby

Dr. White said:
We were told that me, rem, and kira led the charge in and immediately fell ill. The rest went on to find nothing but old tomes and artifacts only usable by wizards. We then found a jewel that off put everyone so we had to vote for someone else to take it but ourselves. Iwan was voted.

I was pm'd seperately about my curse
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Seems like your night was also interesting :catthinks
 
In general, all the talk about supporting the overthrowing of the king on D1 and some now on D2 is rather scummy, specifically those by Mohit who only talked about it and the expeditions on D1 and Dr.White who jumped on MSAL for saying that keeping the king around is worthwhile. Now, after the king went rogue with his D1 lynch, it's within bounds to say that if he goes rogue and is wrong again then dethroning should be a serious option.

The King offers two definite benefits for keeping him in power :

1. Prevents us from potentially mislynching the King.
2. Keeps the mafia on their toes as they have less control on who gets lynched.

Then there are any possible other abilities that he might have that could give him an edge. There might also be penalties to ousting him that we shouldn't risk if we don't have to. So long as the King mostly follows majority rule/has a good scumdar then keeping him in power is by far the best move.
 
WolfPrinceKouga said:
In general, all the talk about supporting the overthrowing of the king on D1 and some now on D2 is rather scummy, specifically those by Mohit who only talked about it and the expeditions on D1 and Dr.White who jumped on MSAL for saying that keeping the king around is worthwhile. Now, after the king went rogue with his D1 lynch, it's within bounds to say that if he goes rogue and is wrong again then dethroning should be a serious option.

The King offers two definite benefits for keeping him in power :

1. Prevents us from potentially mislynching the King.
2. Keeps the mafia on their toes as they have less control on who gets lynched.

Then there are any possible other abilities that he might have that could give him an edge. There might also be penalties to ousting him that we shouldn't risk if we don't have to. So long as the King mostly follows majority rule/has a good scumdar then keeping him in power is by far the best move.
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Sound judgement.
 
Also funny how you missed this generally scummy play
novaselinenever said:
I missed the quests :pepecry
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novaselinenever said:
[Join Group]
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novaselinenever said:
@Legend The 3 man is full but the 10 man should still be open, I just checked



Dave07
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novaselinenever said:
We stil have more than a day to figure at who to vote for. Easy
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novaselinenever said:
[Join Group]
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novaselinenever said:
[Join Group]
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novaselinenever said:
When is the King going to get overthrown ?

The fucker got to go
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Also of note are Reznor's reads outside of Iwan when I asked him
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Me, Law, Broki, Crugyr and need to find our fifth

@Dr. White
You might have picked the hardest ones.
Law - I like his reasoning and the pressure he's applying. I don't feel like he's going for an easy lynch.
WPK - Null until you and him work out the facts here
Babby - Atm I regard him as wild card like the other CBers tbh. These are the kind that'll false role claim as town. If he's not like Ava and those folks then we'll see I guess.
Darth - Started light red, went light blue for a moment, now is back to light red. He's avoided the thread since other suspects took over.
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Cooler said:
I didn't realise the phase had started man...and now it's close to my bedtime...so yeah I fucked up.

Your question to Alwaysmind is a bit of a weird one, we don't have confirmation on who the king actually is right? Basically got one action to go - not sure how this question could inform you of anyone's alignment, barring an intentionally scummy answer or something.
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I mean he somehow survived.
It is basically Just something i want to do to make sure he places on my scum list
 
Since it was our first big raid and chances for mafia being on it are higher, I want to compile the vote log (for the prize gem we got) and reasoning given in the PM.
- Novase votes Iwan because "it might cheer him up" (referencing Iwan's tribulations D1).
- I vote Remchu "because he's my bro" and state I will gladly take the gem because I love dark magic.
- Iwan claims he would give me the gem but doesn't have a firm town read on me. Gives it to Stel because "he was cool to me".
- Rem claims we should give it to a town read that would use it most effectively, but then votes Stel because he was the party leader, and claims he would be bias giving it to me or Sin, who he knows would use it most effectively.
- I say we should give it to best townread because it's most sensible and giving it to maf this early is very dangerous due to most of us being presumably generic.
- Rem rereads and sees that the gem itself may be cursed and changes his vote to Iwan.
- Stel agrees we should give it to a townread, and votes Iwan because he believed his peasent claim.
- Waffles votes Stelios.
- Kira says the situation is interesting and would take it if it didn't sound so risky. Votes Iwan.
- Cooler says he would take it, and votes me.
- Stel claims in response to Rem's question, that he would gladly take it, and that we should kill him if it drives him crazy.
- Iwan claims cursed things are dope, and he's going to raid the castle and kill the king for killing his court.
- Stelios posits that me, Rem, and Kira may have been sabotaged by poisoning on the quest instead of it being a random event, but says it is the first quest so that remains to be seen if mafia can alter the quest.
- Stel claims the kings lynch sounds like spite, and ask if Iwan has obd gossip to tell us. Then claims it was a stupid comment on his part, and the the king is actually town, although he doesn't know how much help they will be.
 
novaselinenever said:
How is that scummy ? Or is inactivity considered scummy ?
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- Yes it can be.
- You only tried to join groups and contributed nothing else.
- Two post of note are only you saying "we have 48 hours to decide a vote, easy. Then proceeded to ditch the phase and never vote.
- Second post being a post with enthusiasm about dethroning the king.
 
Dr. White said:
- Yes it can be.
- You only tried to join groups and contributed nothing else.
- Two post of note are only you saying "we have 48 hours to decide a vote, easy. Then proceeded to ditch the phase and never vote.
- Second post being a post with enthusiasm about dethroning the king.
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Fair enough, I haven't had anything to contribute so didn't bother to post. I've been following the thread and keeping up with the game but in D1 nobody really stood out to me as a lynch Target. I'm not just going to sheep and vote with the majority. For me that's even more scummier.
About the quests, with nothing to contribute as of now they're the only thing that interest me so I sign up quick.
About the King, I'd love for him to be dethroned. I'd rather have a majority lynch and people decide who to lynch and not someone who can override everything and choose his own target. Didn't he also mess up D1 by killing own of his protectors ?
 
WolfPrinceKouga said:
In general, all the talk about supporting the overthrowing of the king on D1 and some now on D2 is rather scummy, specifically those by Mohit who only talked about it and the expeditions on D1 and Dr.White who jumped on MSAL for saying that keeping the king around is worthwhile. Now, after the king went rogue with his D1 lynch, it's within bounds to say that if he goes rogue and is wrong again then dethroning should be a serious option.

The King offers two definite benefits for keeping him in power :

1. Prevents us from potentially mislynching the King.
2. Keeps the mafia on their toes as they have less control on who gets lynched.

Then there are any possible other abilities that he might have that could give him an edge. There might also be penalties to ousting him that we shouldn't risk if we don't have to. So long as the King mostly follows majority rule/has a good scumdar then keeping him in power is by far the best move.
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This is all true.
However, woudln't you say that having the lynch be kinda random at the end to have it's drawbacks?
Like, 90% of people won't vote because they will feel like their votes don't even matter.
 
novaselinenever said:
I've been following the thread and keeping up with the game but in D1 nobody really stood out to me as a lynch Target. I'm not just going to sheep and vote with the majority. For me that's even more scummier.
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Ok but here is the thing. If you were keeping up with the thread there was plenty of stuff to comment on and discuss. You even said yourself we had 48 hours to dicsuss stuff to come to a vote. Yet not only did you not vote, but didn't even discuss anything that was happening that whole dayphase. Do you see how this comes off as completely feigning enthusiasm for playing the game while actually being inactive? Your activity is wholly counter to what you've been saying.

It's hard to believe you had absolutely no suspects or thoughts the whole day.
Didn't he also mess up D1 by killing own of his protectors ?
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Revan always plays scummy, and i don't understand people with this logic. Revan was a suspect by some people here and his play really didn't help. How was the king suppossed to know? I'm not saying Revan was the best lynch, but revan being a protector of the king was more irony than anything. Even though Revan did drop a hint that he was loyal to the king.
 
iwandesu said:
@Katsuargi are you a peasant?
@Cooler are you going to straight up inactive ^ (not the meaning of the word "respect".).
@Alwaysmind what is your opinion on the king ?
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Though if you must know. The king is a pretty neat individual. I think I was the lynch candidate and he let me live.
It’s been an honour and it will remain so to serve the king.
 
Underworld Broker said:
Btw. Why do they investigate as guilty when they're ill? :catthinks
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I didn't know the others said anything, so when you brought this up I was like "What...how does she know before we said anything"
I was going to post that in the quest thread, surprised the other two didn't bring it up in there. Glad they did bring it light in the thread. Yes, the same happened to me.

So it would seem there is a chance for bad things to happen to us while questing. Interesting game mechanic.

Stelios said:
I m sorry ? :hm
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The poison trap thing turned us into millers, or there was a scum member who did that in the group.


If there is a faction who wants the King to remain in power. There is probably a faction who need him out of power in order to power up themselves? Maybe they even outright win the game.
novaselinenever said:
When is the King going to get overthrown ?

The fucker got to go
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He seems to really want the King gone.

This is an understandable stance to take, considering the King ultimately ignored the voice of the people. The people voted and it fell on deaf ears. Albeit Raven did post in a somewhat scummy manner, coming in to multi post while acting somewhat confused, the irony is Raven in his posts fully supported the King....

I would say, give the King another shot. 3 strikes you're out? The fact it is a townie king is somewhat a silver lining.
Kira Yagami said:
The king made one mistake,I dont see reason to overthrow him yet
D1 lynch wouldve probably been townie anyways
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Mmmmm, I don't know. Seeing how Reznor was killed and he did a lot of button pushing and discussion generation. Maybe one of the people he suspected, one of the top voted was in the faction that killed Reznor.

Tiger said:
Sorry, in what way is Iwandesu more powerful now? I missed that.

Nighty, Alwaysmind, and Legend all making me edgy today. And KC still from yesterday.
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Mmmmmm, I'm sure he can explain if he wants. Quest rewards is all. =]

Babby said:
I'm not defending Sin, I'm trying to educate you so you don't look like a dumbass in the end.
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The back and forth with you and waffles is funny. Much ado about nothing though. lol.
WolfPrinceKouga said:
In general, all the talk about supporting the overthrowing of the king on D1 and some now on D2 is rather scummy, specifically those by Mohit who only talked about it and the expeditions on D1 and Dr.White who jumped on MSAL for saying that keeping the king around is worthwhile. Now, after the king went rogue with his D1 lynch, it's within bounds to say that if he goes rogue and is wrong again then dethroning should be a serious option.

The King offers two definite benefits for keeping him in power :

1. Prevents us from potentially mislynching the King.
2. Keeps the mafia on their toes as they have less control on who gets lynched.

Then there are any possible other abilities that he might have that could give him an edge. There might also be penalties to ousting him that we shouldn't risk if we don't have to. So long as the King mostly follows majority rule/has a good scumdar then keeping him in power is by far the best move.
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Yeah, I agree with this. Long live the king!

Katsuargi said:
Katsu' play is Katsu's standard play.

No idea who killed Reznor.
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Dr. White said:
So your standard play is to dip the thread and avoid all questioning? Why did you only respond to the thing about Rez? No townie should know who killed him.
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He has a truth meta, guess he doesn't want to say the truth this game...
Maybe.
But it's a big game so staying low isn't so bad.


I had a bunch of Reznor quotes, he called out a few people, like Mohit if I recall correctly.
Since he called out so many people hard to single out who killed him.
 
Underworld Broker said:
Btw. Why do they investigate as guilty when they're ill? :catthinks
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I didn't know the others said anything, so when you brought this up I was like "What...how does she know before we said anything"
I was going to post that in the quest thread, surprised the other two didn't bring it up in there. Glad they did bring it light in the thread. Yes, the same happened to me.

So it would seem there is a chance for bad things to happen to us while questing. Interesting game mechanic.

Stelios said:
I m sorry ? :hm
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The poison trap thing turned us into millers, or there was a scum member who did that in the group.


If there is a faction who wants the King to remain in power. There is probably a faction who need him out of power in order to power up themselves? Maybe they even outright win the game.
novaselinenever said:
When is the King going to get overthrown ?

The fucker got to go
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He seems to really want the King gone.

This is an understandable stance to take, considering the King ultimately ignored the voice of the people. The people voted and it fell on deaf ears. Albeit Raven did post in a somewhat scummy manner, coming in to multi post while acting somewhat confused, the irony is Raven in his posts fully supported the King....

I would say, give the King another shot. 3 strikes you're out? The fact it is a townie king is somewhat a silver lining.
Kira Yagami said:
The king made one mistake,I dont see reason to overthrow him yet
D1 lynch wouldve probably been townie anyways
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Mmmmm, I don't know. Seeing how Reznor was killed and he did a lot of button pushing and discussion generation. Maybe one of the people he suspected, one of the top voted was in the faction that killed Reznor.

Tiger said:
Sorry, in what way is Iwandesu more powerful now? I missed that.

Nighty, Alwaysmind, and Legend all making me edgy today. And KC still from yesterday.
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Mmmmmm, I'm sure he can explain if he wants. Quest rewards is all. =]

Babby said:
I'm not defending Sin, I'm trying to educate you so you don't look like a dumbass in the end.
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The back and forth with you and waffles is funny. Much ado about nothing though. lol.
WolfPrinceKouga said:
In general, all the talk about supporting the overthrowing of the king on D1 and some now on D2 is rather scummy, specifically those by Mohit who only talked about it and the expeditions on D1 and Dr.White who jumped on MSAL for saying that keeping the king around is worthwhile. Now, after the king went rogue with his D1 lynch, it's within bounds to say that if he goes rogue and is wrong again then dethroning should be a serious option.

The King offers two definite benefits for keeping him in power :

1. Prevents us from potentially mislynching the King.
2. Keeps the mafia on their toes as they have less control on who gets lynched.

Then there are any possible other abilities that he might have that could give him an edge. There might also be penalties to ousting him that we shouldn't risk if we don't have to. So long as the King mostly follows majority rule/has a good scumdar then keeping him in power is by far the best move.
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Yeah, I agree with this. Long live the king!

Katsuargi said:
Katsu' play is Katsu's standard play.

No idea who killed Reznor.
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Dr. White said:
So your standard play is to dip the thread and avoid all questioning? Why did you only respond to the thing about Rez? No townie should know who killed him.
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He has a truth meta, guess he doesn't want to say the truth this game...
Maybe.
But it's a big game so staying low isn't so bad.

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I had a bunch of Reznor quotes, he called out a few people, like Mohit if I recall correctly.
Since he called out so many people hard to single out who killed him.

I had a bunch of Reznor quotes, he called out a few people, like Mohit if I recall correctly.
Since he called out so many people hard to single out who killed him.
Reznor said:
Why are you only talking about the lynch that you don't think has a plausible case, rather than one of the other ones? No comment about KC, Nighty, MSAL, Revan, Always or Babby?

Either you've read enough to have another lynch you can engage with, or else you haven't read enough that you should feel so confident dismissing others' suspicions.

You haven't actually engaged with anything, and you've reused the same talking points already.

Do you have your own suspicions?
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In response to JJ32 ^


Reznor said:
Iwan/Stelios is a possible team. Stelios always gives a scum vibe and I've pursued Iwan enough today, this is best saved for another day.
KC isn't looking any better.

[Change Lynch MSAL]
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[Vote Lynch MSAL]
 
Dr. White said:
I jumped on his reasoning not his conclusion.
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His reasoning waa sound though. The King can act as a guard against mafia manipulation, especially late bandwagons. You forced an argument where there shouldn't be one in an attempt to make MSAL look bad.

Dr. White said:
Also funny how you missed this generally scummy play
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Funny how you try to throw shade at me for not being after every generally scummy player in a 40+ game.
 
WolfPrinceKouga said:
His reasoning waa sound though. The King can act as a guard against mafia manipulation, especially late bandwagons. You forced an argument where there shouldn't be one in an attempt to make MSAL look bad.
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It really wasn't to me, which is why I argued with him for all to see about it. You first try to come in and misportray what I actually sussed Msal about, and now are trying to switch it up to me purposefully trying to make MSAL look bad. You can keep trying to bs throw shade at me in early phases of games, but as usual you're wrong, and I'm gonna bite back little pup :hisoka
Funny how you try to throw shade at me for not being after every generally scummy player in a 40+ game.
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I shaded you because you tried to mischaracterize my argument, while ignoring several others who actually berated the king and openly wanted him dead, while also contributing jack to the thread. Try and keep up.
 
Jjcb said:
Well, I mostly spent my time checking the consequences you and a few others seem to be afflicted by after your quest.

I have a mind to think your "illnesses" happened because there was mafia among your ranks, and not because of simple quest shit.
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Well I think there is a good bit to make reads on don't you agree?

And Shizune phrased it that "you activated the tower's curse" meaning I think it was an inherent quest mechanic. Don't know how we got chosen to lead though, if anything there could be some "mafia leading the blind" stuff but mehhh.
 
Dr. White said:
Well I think there is a good bit to make reads on don't you agree?

And Shizune phrased it that "you activated the tower's curse" meaning I think it was an inherent quest mechanic. Don't know how we got chosen to lead though, if anything there could be some "mafia leading the blind" stuff but mehhh.
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Somewhat, yes. Everyone who was clamoring to get the King's head yesterday is on my radar.

Well, it's mostly a hunch, I guess. I was playing a mafia variant a few days ago, and it basically had quests very much like the ones here.

If even one scum managed to get into the quest, people would be penalized and/or it would outright fail.

Dr. White said:
you activated the tower's curse
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Possibly the curse is related to bringing evil (scum) in?
 
Crugyr said:
Well we got shiny back? Cool.

I don’t see why we get rid of the king tbh. Not like revan was a confirmed townie in anyway.

Hmmmm the other quest was more interactive it seems
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Cooo! (Yeah, Okosan's was just like, this is what happened. No choice or anything. If yours wasn't either it's probably a case of ours just being smaller and whatnot. The bigger ones are probably more intensive.)
 
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