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Priscilla said:
I can kill 2 people at Night .. so u better lynch me now
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Alwaysmind said:
Let’s find those mafia scum bastards!
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Don't like this first post.

[Vote Lynch Alwaysmind]

Reznor said:
5 man quest

[Start group]
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[Join group]

Stelios said:
Regardless of ifs and buts Waffles actually made a very good point. Smaller quest groups are by default scummier in this setup.
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You're wrong. And for multiple reasons. One of which is explained in Reznor's post here:

Reznor said:
I'm thinking in terms of Resistance. If a small mission fails, there's fewer people to point the finger at.
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Yup. And also, a small quest is only inherently more scummy depending on HOW it fills.

I don't trust the 10 or the 3 man groups this early, for very different reasons. I don't like how easy it would be for scum to hide in a big group. I don't like the potential of being the only town player in a group of 3, either.

But unless the group fills up incredibly fast, the 5 man group is the safest bet.
 
Tiger said:
Don't like this first post.

[Vote Lynch Alwaysmind]



[Join group]



You're wrong. And for multiple reasons. One of which is explained in Reznor's post here:


Yup. And also, a small quest is only inherently more scummy depending on HOW it fills.

I don't trust the 10 or the 3 man groups this early, for very different reasons. I don't like how easy it would be for scum to hide in a big group. I don't like the potential of being the only town player in a group of 3, either.

But unless the group fills up incredibly fast, the 5 man group is the safest bet.
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Reznor said:
I'm thinking in terms of Resistance. If a small mission fails, there's fewer people to point the finger at.
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I didn't consider the possibility of pointing a finger at anyone for a mission failing.
There's nothing to indicate that should a mission fail we should point a finger to anyone.
That would imply that there are people that sabotage a mission. I see no such thing written in the OP.

I guess what you both imply is that there are ways to sabotage missions.

I won't be surprised if you two are part of the same scum team :kermit
 
Stelios said:
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I didn't consider the possibility of pointing a finger at anyone for a mission failing.
There's nothing to indicate that should a mission fail we should point a finger to anyone.
That would imply that there are people that sabotage a mission. I see no such thing written in the OP.

I guess what you both imply is that there are ways to sabotage missions.

I won't be surprised if you two are part of the same scum team :kermit
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We're just a little bit more intelligent, I suppose. ;)

Read: Reznor and I have played games like this before.

Also, Nitty talked a bit about quests and their dangers in the convo thread.

If I had a kill, you'd be one of my top choices this night, my scummy friend. Start a big group asap, and point fingers at anyone in any other group? Not a good look; hard to trust.
 
Tiger said:
We're just a little bit more intelligent, I suppose. ;)
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Tiger enters the game with an ad hominem

:hestonpls

Read: Reznor and I have played games like this before.

Also, Nitty talked a bit about quests and their dangers in the convo thread.

If I had a kill, you'd be one of my top choices this night, my scummy friend. Start a big group asap, and point fingers at anyone in any other group? Not a good look; hard to trust.
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Why would I be afraid to start a big group? Why would a town be afraid to do stuff in this game?
Per your intelligence and superior logic a scum would be more likely to put its head out by starting a ten man raid?

Read yourself again , and realize how weak this whole point is. One that you started with an ad hominem that is.
If you are not scum you are just stupid. I don't think you are stupid. Are you?
 
When someone has a winky smiley at the end of a sentence, that is generally accepted as a joke. *shrug*

It wouldn't surprise me if Reznor was town. It wouldn't surprise me much if Stelios was town. I can practically guarantee that there are some scum in that 10 man group. And I'd be surprised if my group was fully town.

With the theory (the fairly obvious one to anyone who thought about it) that a group can fail or be in danger from mafia while on a quest-- I didn't trust joining a big group like that. Pretty simple logic, honestly.

Your confidence isn't a check mark in your favor like you think it is, Stelios.
 
Stelios said:
Why wouldn't I be?
I started a ten man group. Isn't that an indication of my confidence already?
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That's not what I mean.

"I wouldn't be surprised if you are scum" means that you aren't really sure, but are open to the possibility of us being scum. It sounds more like either hedging your bets (i.e. It doesn't necessarily mean that you'd be surprise if we weren't scum, so you able to say "I told you so" without commitment, but save face still if we aren't) or just keeping an active suspicion line open in case you need it later.

Your follow up means that it's not the first, but rather the second. You could have answered my question, for example, saying that it'd surprise you if another given member weren't town.
 
Tiger said:
When someone has a winky smiley at the end of a sentence, that is generally accepted as a joke. *shrug*
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oh a joke
right :wink

Tiger said:
It wouldn't surprise me if Reznor was town. It wouldn't surprise me much if Stelios was town. I can practically guarantee that there are some scum in that 10 man group. And I'd be surprised if my group was fully town.

With the theory (the fairly obvious one to anyone who thought about it) that a group can fail or be in danger from mafia while on a quest-- I didn't trust joining a big group like that. Pretty simple logic, honestly.
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My train of thought was that I'd rather control the raid group. The raid is bound to give the biggest reward.
I claim town and the benefit of town controlling the big raid is the fact that a town has some chances to leave a scum outside from this group. Where as if this group was run by scum they would have the possibility to deny a town inside it 100%.

I have zero idea how the loot will be shared and how you win it or play it once the quest starts. I wait to see of course.


Tiger said:
Your confidence isn't a check mark in your favor like you think it is, Stelios.
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Sure.
 
Reznor said:
That's not what I mean.

"I wouldn't be surprised if you are scum" means that you aren't really sure, but are open to the possibility of us being scum. It sounds more like either hedging your bets (i.e. It doesn't necessarily mean that you'd be surprise if we weren't scum, so you able to say "I told you so" without commitment, but save face still if we aren't) or just keeping an active suspicion line open in case you need it later.

Your follow up means that it's not the first, but rather the second. You could have answered my question, for example, saying that it'd surprise you if another given member weren't town.
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This is the first time I play such a game. I read the OP and I've seen no indication anywhere about quests being sabotaged.
When you came up with the resistance reasoning and then Tiger piggy backed that same reasoning I perceived it that you two work together. Since, me as town, I have zero indication that this may be a thing and you both already know that this is going to happen then isn't the next logical step to think that you are working together?
 
Stelios said:
This is the first time I play such a game. I read the OP and I've seen no indication anywhere about quests being sabotaged.
When you came up with the resistance reasoning and then Tiger piggy backed that same reasoning I perceived it that you two work together. Since, me as town, I have zero indication that this may be a thing and you both already know that this is going to happen then isn't the next logical step to think that you are working together?
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That's some pretty sloppy teamwork if law and I were scummates :lmao
 
Platinum said:
I would say its probably safe to assume that Law is right with the mafia being able to influence failure rates on a mission. If we believe this to be accurate, it would be interesting to possibly pressure supsicious people into joining smaller missions with more confirmed townies in the later phases as pseudo-investigations.
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And if this is the case, we must also remember that a successful quest does not automatically mean innocence.
 
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