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Underworld Broker said:
The king is deciding the lynches, if you're that competent you should maybe prove it

I know the town win con that's why I stopped pressuring Priscilla back then :drake
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Town’s wincon is not that secretive mate, it’s always destroy all threats. There’s no town wincon that says “eliminate all factions except yours and mafia”
 
Alwaysmind said:
Town’s wincon is not that secretive mate, it’s always destroy all threats. There’s no town wincon that says “eliminate all factions except yours and mafia”
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I meant the kingdom part, he said his win con was to eliminate all threats to the kingdom and not just the easy scum option to say "eliminate all threats to town".

Also
Mohit keeps saying the royal court is bad but they'll actually have to help us find scum otherwise the king will get overthrown and they lose. They have no other option than to help us
 
Underworld Broker said:
The king is deciding the lynches, if you're that competent you should maybe prove it
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I don't have to prove you anything. King decides the lynch that is the main problem it makes our votes redundant and the Base which gives us reads. In order to truly get reads and in turn catch the scums we have to Dethrow him no matter what. Whether he is a good experience player doesn't matter now it's day 3 and we haven't lynched a scum because of this main reason
 
Crugyr said:
Where did you play with nova at?

I don’t think ddl is playing.

What do you think of novaseline?
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I'm in the middle of the first game I've ever played with him on MafiatheSyndicate.com and we're both still alive (that's all I'll say about that game) so I actually know jack and squat about Nova's town/baddie meta.

I...also haven't read any of his posts except what was quoted. I'll get back to you.

What do you think of him?
 
Mohit said:
I don't have to prove you anything. King decides the lynch that is the main problem it makes our votes redundant and the Base which gives us reads. In order to truly get reads and in turn catch the scums we have to Dethrow him no matter what. Whether he is a good experience player doesn't matter now it's day 3 and we haven't lynched a scum because of this main reason
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I'm getting tired of explaining things to you that should be obvious to understand if you'd have common sense.

Example:
>we vote someone who's suspicious
>if some people try to push the lynch to someone else and that person flips town, the ones who pushed it away are probably scum
>if king actually notices that smth is wrong with that push he can still decide to lynch the first suspicious person
>if that guy flips mafia we have a few leads on the people who tried to push it to someone else

Also since you never bothered answering my question on if you know what a majority lynch is:
With 39 people we'd need at least 20-21 votes on someone to get the lynch through

It's not plurality lynch like in other games where just the one with even 3 votes could get lynched.
 
Underworld Broker said:
I'm getting tired of explaining things to you that should be obvious to understand if you'd have common sense.

Example:
>we vote someone who's suspicious
>if some people try to push the lynch to someone else and that person flips town, the ones who pushed it away are probably scum
>if king actually notices that smth is wrong with that push he can still decide to lynch the first suspicious person
>if that guy flips mafia we have a few leads on the people who tried to push it to someone else
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I understand it very well
1 yes and that someone is what town decides not our King
2 but in the end if King decides to go with his guts and lynch someone who wasn't even in questioning we get 0 info
3 again one person's openion doesn't matter much here
No matter what kings lynch flips we can't guarantee that we will always have lead but the town decided lynch always guarantees it. You stick with your knight you retainer but us pesents are alredy sick of his shit
 
Mohit said:
So you guys actually be lives dega slipped? I will also follow that lynch if that is true but is he gonna come here and defend himself though I mean this whole lynch could turn pointless if he gets lynched without even appearing here
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A man can only wait. A lynch can be placed for pressure.

Are you saying that if he never comes to defend himself then we should leave him be till he comes back ? By your logic all a scum would have to do when facing a question is to inactifag and come back when the heat is off
 
Stelios said:
Are you saying that if he never comes to defend himself then we should leave him be till he comes back ?
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No I m not saying that but I just hoping he comes and explain this but if he doesn't even comes online for some reason I m ok with giving him benefit of the doubt for now since we have other suspects like Jjcb and broki mostly broki she seems too advent on keeping the king in power
Stelios said:
By your logic all a scum would have to do when facing a question is to inactifag and come back when the heat is off
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No the inactifag must be lynched when there isn't something better for the day phase but right now do see something better as mentioned before
 
His description of the sisterhood took some assumptions and explained how the kill could possibly work. He could just be very clever, or you know in the actual group.

Another poster who seemed very clever day 1 was Nighty.
Nighty the Mighty said:
also



>werewolf/vampire/something like this
>brigands
>crime syndicate

these are the three anti-town factions :ufdup
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but hers is vague and anyone observant could infer this.

Maybe he is just really smart and came to that conclusion through deduction?

:hm

Let's see what the King decides.
 
Yeah, agree with @Stelios comment on the previous page.

He seems way too sure how the superkill work.

mad scummy...

Degaforce said:
It's cool, man. Take your time. Life comes before anything.

Oh, and the deaths are quite simple.
The sisterhood mafia is a guild of assassins. If a member who is on an quest performs the faction kill on a party member, they assassinate them and it becomes a super kill.

That's why I wanted people to give me a mafia pick out of the list of players who quested with Rez.

The only problem I'm having with this theory is that would imply someone between RemChu and Sin is mafia. And I have a good town read on both of them. On RemChu more than Sin, mind you.
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Okosan said:
[Vote Lynch Thorin]

Cooo! (Okoan's kind of feeling a Thorin lynch since they still haven't commented on their mindless JJ vote or anything.)

COOOOOO! (Speaking of people not commenting, Okosan can't help but notice that neither @Legend nor @dave07 have responded to Okosan's question. :hm )
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What was your question? I just woke up from a 10hour post work nap or sleep rather. Im pretty hungry.
 
Dega's theory isn't far enough out of bounds for me to be convinced it is a knowledge slip. He seems pretty confident in it but that isn't OOC for someone of his caliber. Nor do I see a compelling reason for why a mafia Dega would reveal this info at this point in the game. He wasn't under any pressure, mafia hasn't lost a member yet, nor would the knowledge that they might get killed stop people from starting groups altogether.

I don't trust how this wagon has formed, especially those on it. Stelios and Remchu especially stand out for jumping on it. A town!Dega lynch would be very beneficial to mafia given how he is trying to piece the puzzle together and he is generally one of the best townies in the section.

[Vote Lynch Stelios]
 
I agree with the Wolf here. To me it felt like Degaforce was merely theorising. He kept referring to it as a theory as well.

Others before him had the same theory. It strikes me as suspicious that people suddenly see his theory as legitimate information.

I have to say I think he looks loyal to the Kingdom and for that I put my trust in him.

We should rather just continue too look into @Santi. He offers nothing of value besides continously rebeling against the crown.
 
SinRaven said:
I agree with the Wolf here. To me it felt like Degaforce was merely theorising. He kept referring to it as a theory as well.

Others before him had the same theory. It strikes me as suspicious that people suddenly see his theory as legitimate information.

I have to say I think he looks loyal to the Kingdom and for that I put my trust in him.

We should rather just continue too look into @Santi. He offers nothing of value besides continously rebeling against the crown.
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Who were the others?
 
WolfPrinceKouga said:
Dega's theory isn't far enough out of bounds for me to be convinced it is a knowledge slip. He seems pretty confident in it but that isn't OOC for someone of his caliber. Nor do I see a compelling reason for why a mafia Dega would reveal this info at this point in the game. He wasn't under any pressure, mafia hasn't lost a member yet, nor would the knowledge that they might get killed stop people from starting groups altogether.

I don't trust how this wagon has formed, especially those on it. Stelios and Remchu especially stand out for jumping on it. A town!Dega lynch would be very beneficial to mafia given how he is trying to piece the puzzle together and he is generally one of the best townies in the section.

[Vote Lynch Stelios]
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I'm not jumping, I thought about. Even when he intially made the comment it struck me as profound and odd. Do you not think there is enough questions and discussion around this to push forward with a lynch? What would you propose instead for a lynch?

As for me this looks very juicy, very big. Using past game read to excuse the comment Degaforce made is lazy my friend.
 
I have to say I think despite my initial thoughts that Stelios isn't loyal to the Kingdom after all.

He and I go way back, even with our difference in social standings, so I know him through and through. It's been a few days since the attacks on this Kingdom started, yet he hasn't shown to me yet what I need in order to trust him.

I'm definitely not mad at the idea of executing him either.
 
RemChu said:
I'm not jumping, I thought about. Even when he intially made the comment it struck me as profound and odd. Do you not think there is enough questions and discussion around this to push forward with a lynch? What would you propose instead for a lynch?

As for me this looks very juicy, very big. Using past game read to excuse the comment Degaforce made is lazy my friend.
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I really don't think there is enough discussion on it given this is a late night push when Dega is not around, where your main argument is that he seems smarter than you. I have been in Dega's shoes in this scenario multiple times as town, being punished for superior intelligence/research.

Outside of my preference for Stelios or yourself, there is AM, jjcb, UB or any of the other players that have been brought up throughout this phase. Any of these are preferable to losing someone who if they're town actually has worth in scumhunting. This is a mafia slanted gamble.
 
Mod told me , paraphrase, all the other people who signed up for glade aren't melandru. I got yanked from my ten men and added in (I did sign up for both, but wanted ten man) soo imagine if the mod had just let dr. And sin go and next day dr.white is super killed....this looks even worst for sin raven. I think mod added me to make the situation look better for that sister mafia in this scenario. If in fact the kills work the way Degaforce described and Sin Raven is in fact part of said faction.
 
SinRaven said:
I don't recall, but I'm quite sure several people already pointed out that it was curious that only Quest Leaders have been targeted. They seemed to imply the attacks had to do with that as well.
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yes they mentioned that. But he made the next level step and saying it's an assassin group. It has to be someone on the quest, they can super kill the leaders if they are on said quest.



Quite frankly now from game design point of view this makes a lot of fucking sense.
Too much. So if King doesn't lynch him I want him to consider you. [Vote lynch SinRaven ]
 
RemChu said:
Mod told me , paraphrase, all the other people who signed up for glade aren't melandru. I got yanked from my ten men and added in (I did sign up for both, but wanted ten man) soo imagine if the mod had just let dr. And sin go and next day dr.white is super killed....this looks even worst for sin raven. I think mod added me to make the situation look better for that sister mafia in this scenario. If in fact the kills work the way Degaforce described and Sin Raven is in fact part of said faction.
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That is quite the level of paranoia you have, especially after you've stated you thought I was loyal to the Kingdom. Quite a change of mind for such a complex theory.

Don't you think it simply has to do with the fact that there weren't enough followers of Melandru on that quest, as was stated?

Do you think the enemies can only target the Quest Leaders? Or that I was the only supposed one of them that went on a mission?

You seem to construct a Web of coincidences that lead to me. I believe they have a definition to disregard such a theory. It had something to do with shaving, I believe.
 
SinRaven said:
That is quite the level of paranoia you have, especially after you've stated you thought I was loyal to the Kingdom. Quite a change of mind for such a complex theory.

Don't you think it simply has to do with the fact that there weren't enough followers of Melandru on that quest, as was stated?

Do you think the enemies can only target the Quest Leaders? Or that I was the only supposed one of them that went on a mission?

You seem to construct a Web of coincidences that lead to me. I believe they have a definition to disregard such a theory. It had something to do with shaving, I believe.
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Ya o-razor, but would you not speculate the same way if the shoe was on the other foot? @WolfPrinceKouga would you let your opinion of how well a player can be as town, blind you from suspecting them? It is those very people you give such esteem who will be the ones to fool you.
 
Tiger said:
Settled?

In what way? That lame as hell excuse about thinking Iwan meant he could do it alone?

Nah, that's too stupid to be real.
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Firstly, Its a valid excuse especiAlly if he didnt really think it through.

Secondly, How does it prove his guilt? It feels like an irrelevant point you keep harping on about.

Just to be clear I have no info him, so im not defending him. All im saying is your argument doesnt make any sense.
 
WolfPrinceKouga said:
Dega's theory isn't far enough out of bounds for me to be convinced it is a knowledge slip. He seems pretty confident in it but that isn't OOC for someone of his caliber. Nor do I see a compelling reason for why a mafia Dega would reveal this info at this point in the game. He wasn't under any pressure, mafia hasn't lost a member yet, nor would the knowledge that they might get killed stop people from starting groups altogether.

I don't trust how this wagon has formed, especially those on it. Stelios and Remchu especially stand out for jumping on it. A town!Dega lynch would be very beneficial to mafia given how he is trying to piece the puzzle together and he is generally one of the best townies in the section.

[Vote Lynch Stelios]
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He was being oddly specific. Why a group of Assassins and not bandits or barbarians against the crown? iwandesu also made that same deduction but at least he assumed it. Dega’s post was a statement. Do you really not find it sus given his presence and posts so far ?
 
WolfPrinceKouga said:
I really don't think there is enough discussion on it given this is a late night push when Dega is not around, where your main argument is that he seems smarter than you. I have been in Dega's shoes in this scenario multiple times as town, being punished for superior intelligence/research.

Outside of my preference for Stelios or yourself, there is AM, jjcb, UB or any of the other players that have been brought up throughout this phase. Any of these are preferable to losing someone who if they're town actually has worth in scumhunting. This is a mafia slanted gamble.
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What a bunch of balony. I have the real life to keep me occupied and make it with post minimum till the end of game like why would I even bother as scum gamble pushing for Dega who is actually helpful when town? So far there are only town casualties and an indie. Like why any mafia would push for anyone? Do you believe this is a counter wagon and if yes to save who?
 
SinRaven said:
I have to say I think despite my initial thoughts that Stelios isn't loyal to the Kingdom after all.

He and I go way back, even with our difference in social standings, so I know him through and through. It's been a few days since the attacks on this Kingdom started, yet he hasn't shown to me yet what I need in order to trust him.

I'm definitely not mad at the idea of executing him either.
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Still posting in rpg meta mode I see. I m actually fond of the idea of executing YOU. This posting style doesn’t seem like town Sin. More like indie Sin if not scumraven
 
Mohit said:
I don't have to prove you anything. King decides the lynch that is the main problem it makes our votes redundant and the Base which gives us reads. In order to truly get reads and in turn catch the scums we have to Dethrow him no matter what. Whether he is a good experience player doesn't matter now it's day 3 and we haven't lynched a scum because of this main reason
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amazing, every word of what you just said was wrong
 
The main problem with Dega's post is the way he describes the sisters as a guild of assassins because as far as I know that's not information presented anywhere else UNLESS it was in one of the quests lore briefings which I'm not privy to (which again @Shizune are we allowed to copy paste those? :catslam).

meaning dega has a role which gives him non-standard lore briefings which means his role is a) not peasant and b) has something to do with the sisters

personally if I were making blind stabs in the dark as we're suggesting Dega was I would have gone for coven of witches - it fits the specific lore I have to work with better (from the quest I went on) and I also would have gone for the quest leader superkill idea rather than the member of the party superkill idea. :hm
 
Nighty the Mighty said:
amazing, every word of what you just said was wrong
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SinRaven said:
This quite the odd assumption to make. For what reason do you exclude RemChu from that equation?

You are all mislead or purposefully trying to mislead if you say I'm an enemy of the Kingdom.

Everything I've done or said is for the survival of our people.
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There's literally no reason for Remchu to bus a member of his mafia right now AND for him to do it in such a way that the bus points directly back to him (since he like you was in the 3-man group with Dr. White)

you're not necessarily scum (though you're posting like it) because I'm open to the possibility that Dega is a town aligned PR with bonus info (highly speculative theory) but in the scenario were Dega is scum and did slip you're 99.9% scum because

a) you're hard defending him after he disappeared
b) you're the most plausible member of the Dr. White quest to have performed the assassination

the third possibility is that Dega is scum AND misleading us about how the sisters assassination works (going to call it this for now under the assumption dega slipped) but unfortunately for u we're not going to play wifom with something that speculative
 
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