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[SinRaven]

Ok so like, I think Cooler is scum and its gonna be for the stupidest reason ever.

Like every second post of his has "lol" at the end. It feels like he's downplaying a lot of the things he says, trying to rub it of as a joke or something.

I don't know. The Town!Cooler I know is a lot more tryhard and a lot more questioning. Here it seems like he's just seeing how things goes. Aligns with how he kinda backs off out of Flower, but still keeps his vote on her. He doesn't really seem to care enough to actually scumhunt.

This carefree attitude he emulates with the "lol" thing is not akin to his town play at all. I'm not buying it.

[Vote Lynch Cooler]

This is about the best case I have right now. Lol.

 

[SinRaven]

Its also kinda similar to how I tend to post when I'm scum so there's that.

 

[Hayumi]

im sorry on phone so posting sht from 3 pages behind. dont laugh ningens

i am also not liking hayumi giving excuses about their play and activity and how scummy he looks when none even asked for it. seems a bit insecure

I was responding to questions being directed at me about my train of thought, and statements calling me contradictory. I gave a response.

 

[Ekkologix]

The person who I really want to hear about this turn of events is ussop, call me crazy, but he seemed the most opportunistic of all to get random wagons going.

i will carry ur ass to victory

or to the gallotine depending or what allignment u r

so u better behave

 

[Cooler]

Ok so like, I think Cooler is scum and its gonna be for the stupidest reason ever.

Like every second post of his has "lol" at the end. It feels like he's downplaying a lot of the things he says, trying to rub it of as a joke or something.

I don't know. The Town!Cooler I know is a lot more tryhard and a lot more questioning. Here it seems like he's just seeing how things goes. Aligns with how he kinda backs off out of Flower, but still keeps his vote on her. He doesn't really seem to care enough to actually scumhunt.

This carefree attitude he emulates with the "lol" thing is not akin to his town play at all. I'm not buying it.

[Vote Lynch Cooler]

This is about the best case I have right now. Lol.

The only appropriate response for this is lol.

 

[Flower]

Ok so like, I think Cooler is scum and its gonna be for the stupidest reason ever.

Like every second post of his has "lol" at the end. It feels like he's downplaying a lot of the things he says, trying to rub it of as a joke or something.

I don't know. The Town!Cooler I know is a lot more tryhard and a lot more questioning. Here it seems like he's just seeing how things goes. Aligns with how he kinda backs off out of Flower, but still keeps his vote on her. He doesn't really seem to care enough to actually scumhunt.

This carefree attitude he emulates with the "lol" thing is not akin to his town play at all. I'm not buying it.

[Vote Lynch Cooler]

This is about the best case I have right now. Lol.

This is the best case ever.


Lol.

 

[Ekkologix]

Isn’t it also been assumed that the mafia could have fake claims prepared? Maybe not but I figured I’d throw it out there.

this is the towniest post uve said in the entire game

how do we know that terumi is not a fake claim that scum have

 

[Nessos]

Like every second post of his has "lol" at the end

LMAO, best case ever!
[Change Vote lynch Cooler]

 

[Flower]

LMAO, best case ever!
[Change Vote lynch Cooler]

And now you're saying what I said, despite not reading my posts .

 

[Cooler]

The funny thing is this is only the second worst case that's been made in this thread, the worst being Shrikes on Nessos for posting in a way unbefitting of someone with a headache.

 

[SinRaven]

The only appropriate response for this is lol.

I mean yes, but one part definitely matters: the Town!Cooler I know is a lot more questioning and picks up on more things then I've seen you do here as early as day one. This passive attitude doesn't suit me well. You can say you're not passive with your push on Cypher, but I think we can all conclude that was some low hanging fruit, especially since myself AND others seem to agree her playstyle is more akin to Town!Flower.

Other than that, you just seem pretty carefree. I don't like it.

 

[Ekkologix]

1 out of 4 isn't any better odds than throwing a dart randomly and lynching that person. 1 in 4 would be 5 players this game and there definitely shouldn't be less than 5 scum this game counting Mafia + Indie.

thats y we use our educated guesses and the reactions + derail attempts we obtained from a simple cypher push

get it coaster wayne??

 

[Flower]

I now think Sin is Town.


Only a Town can make such a case.

 

[Ekkologix]

@Vivo Diez im also grill too btw

 

[John Wayne]

thats y we use our educated guesses and the reactions + derail attempts we obtained from a simple cypher push

get it coaster wayne??

No

 

[Natalija]

Ok so like, I think Cooler is scum and its gonna be for the stupidest reason ever.

Like every second post of his has "lol" at the end. It feels like he's downplaying a lot of the things he says, trying to rub it of as a joke or something.

I don't know. The Town!Cooler I know is a lot more tryhard and a lot more questioning. Here it seems like he's just seeing how things goes. Aligns with how he kinda backs off out of Flower, but still keeps his vote on her. He doesn't really seem to care enough to actually scumhunt.

This carefree attitude he emulates with the "lol" thing is not akin to his town play at all. I'm not buying it.

[Vote Lynch Cooler]

This is about the best case I have right now. Lol.

You're not totally wrong, I've noticed this when we were scummates. He softens up his posts with "lol" and "..."

 

[Ekkologix]

Ok @Go D. Usopp I looked back and from what I see this is what happened:

-> Pressure vote on Flower
-> Joke vote on Hayumi - that's fine but you've also said you have a feeling they could be scum
-> Scum lean on melkor or Hayumi, and you elaborate on Melkor.
-> Vote on flower again after a few votes on her

It looks better, my bad I completely missed the earlier vote.

no worries fam

 

[SinRaven]

Also one of his first posts was that he just had a solid Town read on Hero (honestly easy read as well if you ask me and no need to specifically mention it at that point) while I feel like Scum!Cooler would've picked up on some stuff or otherwise just questioned people. It wasn't until after I argued with Cypher and Denim made his case that Cooler jumped onto that wagon and he never really made an effort to look at people outside of Cypher.

I'm not buying this act at all. Town!Cooler definitely would have had some things to share at this point. He's one of our best scumhunters if you ask me.

So let me end this with a question: @Cooler who are your scumreads outside of Cypher and why?

 

[SinRaven]

You're not totally wrong, I've noticed this when we were scummates. He softens up his posts with "lol" and "..."

Well there you go. Vote him, lock and load boys. We got him. Lol.

 

[Flower]

Sorry @SinRaven for suspecting you. You're starting to become a solid Town read.

 

[Cooler]

Ok so like, I think Cooler is scum and its gonna be for the stupidest reason ever.

Like every second post of his has "lol" at the end. It feels like he's downplaying a lot of the things he says, trying to rub it of as a joke or something.

I don't know. The Town!Cooler I know is a lot more tryhard and a lot more questioning. Here it seems like he's just seeing how things goes. Aligns with how he kinda backs off out of Flower, but still keeps his vote on her. He doesn't really seem to care enough to actually scumhunt.

This carefree attitude he emulates with the "lol" thing is not akin to his town play at all. I'm not buying it.

[Vote Lynch Cooler]

This is about the best case I have right now. Lol.

I will say that you saying I'm not scumhunting is false. Pretty sure my push on Cypher was scumhunting, don't think anyone is going particularly ham on this front - I've pointed out posts from several other posters too. I'm also not always super tryhard on D1 anyway.

I didn't really back off Flower either, ya'll backed off and I continued to press that I wasn't so sure this wasn't her scum meta.

As far as the overuse of lol, that's not a scumtell IRL when messaging people. I use it pretty frequently here too and I doubt you can find a game as mafia where I was busting it out to try and "appear carefree" or using it more often.

 

[Shrike]

Jesus @ that claim

Strange that Melkor isn't around. Xebec too.

u bring up all that yet ur vote is on nessos, when it should be used to pressure one of those 4 ppl into talking more

mind u that nessos voted on cypher right as cooler told him to do so. and he clearly stated that he didnt read the thread so really doubt scum would be that obvious. your vote on nessos is rly bad imo

I don't need any of those 4 to talk more because I've seen quite enough to make my judgement out of them, tunneling is dumb - if you are town, of course. Why would you not believe that scum would be obvious? Why is the vote bad?

The funny thing is this is only the second worst case that's been made in this thread, the worst being Shrikes on Nessos for posting in a way unbefitting of someone with a headache.

That's not exactly what I said but okay.

How can a player with 4 posts considered to be "too aggressive"?

Easily?

 

[nfcnorth]

Putting an untruthful spin on events is yes.

Sure but it still prompts more dialouge and such that is nice for day 1 which is about getting info more than anything.

 

[Cooler]

I mean yes, but one part definitely matters: the Town!Cooler I know is a lot more questioning and picks up on more things then I've seen you do here as early as day one. This passive attitude doesn't suit me well. You can say you're not passive with your push on Cypher, but I think we can all conclude that was some low hanging fruit, especially since myself AND others seem to agree her playstyle is more akin to Town!Flower.

Other than that, you just seem pretty carefree. I don't like it.

I've been carefree in loads of games as town. This is some BS man. In fact I'd say in recent months I've barely been try harding at all.

I think you're being harsh by saying I've not been picking up on things as well. I've been making observations.

 

[Natalija]

I will say that you saying I'm not scumhunting is false. Pretty sure my push on Cypher was scumhunting, don't think anyone is going particularly ham on this front - I've pointed out posts from several other posters too. I'm also not always super tryhard on D1 anyway.

I didn't really back off Flower either, ya'll backed off and I continued to press that I wasn't so sure this wasn't her scum meta.

As far as the overuse of lol, that's not a scumtell IRL when messaging people. I use it pretty frequently here too and I doubt you can find a game as mafia where I was busting it out to try and "appear carefree" or using it more often.

Well, I looked it up, and indeed you use lol as town too you used lol when you called me a bitch etc.

 

[Ekkologix]

No

idk if ur trolling or rly dont see it lol

if u randomly throw a dart on the 20 players u have a 1/4 chance hittting scum

but if u throw a dart at 4 players, in which u have a near firm read of someone being scum so u hit that person first its a 1/1 chance = 100%

if it missed then u take the next target in line effectively making it a 1/2 chance to hit scum.

if u miss again u take next in line making it 1/3 then 1/4.

these r still much better odds than 5/20 then 5/19 then 5/18 that you will get every time u miss on a purely random target

 

[SinRaven]

Sorry @SinRaven for suspecting you. You're starting to become a solid Town read.

It's okay, I'm used to being suspected. It's only fuel for me to start discussing other things and boy what did it lead to this game.

You're not off the charts in my books tbf, but no one ever truly is.

 

[Flower]

It's okay, I'm used to being suspected. It's only fuel for me to start discussing other things and boy what did it lead to this game.

You're not off the charts in my books tbf, but no one ever truly is.

Then let's get to work.

Anyone aside from Cooler who pinged you?

 

[SinRaven]

Well, I looked it up, and indeed you use lol as town too you used lol when you called me a bitch etc.

Ok but does he use it like every other post as town? Besides, I want Cooler to go in! I've seen him do that D1! There's a reason he scares me when I'm scum.

Just look at how he acts towards the Cypher lynch. I never really see him go in there either, where is his questioning? Honestly he's mostly just repeating statements others have said as well.

Maybe I need to sleep on it, but yeah, so far, Cooler doesn't look well to me.

 

[nfcnorth]

idk if ur trolling or rly dont see it lol

if u randomly throw a dart on the 20 players u have a 1/4 chance hittting scum

but if u throw a dart at 4 players, in which u have a near firm read of someone being scum so u hit that person first its a 1/1 chance = 100%

if it missed then u take the next target in line effectively making it a 1/2 chance to hit scum.

if u miss again u take next in line making it 1/3 then 1/4.

these r still much better odds than 5/20 then 5/19 then 5/18 that you will get every time u miss on a purely random target

All I will say is the actual math is more complicated because it relies on your reads.

 

[John Wayne]

idk if ur trolling or rly dont see it lol

if u randomly throw a dart on the 20 players u have a 1/4 chance hittting scum

but if u throw a dart at 4 players, in which u have a near firm read of someone being scum so u hit that person first its a 1/1 chance = 100%

if it missed then u take the next target in line effectively making it a 1/2 chance to hit scum.

if u miss again u take next in line making it 1/3 then 1/4.

these r still much better odds than 5/20 then 5/19 then 5/18 that you will get every time u miss on a purely random target

It's a pointless assertion to make since mathematically the chances of 1 person being scum out of any group of 4 picked from this game is high.

 

[Cooler]

You're not totally wrong, I've noticed this when we were scummates. He softens up his posts with "lol" and "..."

Ya'll are actually going for this. Besides that look at the bollocks that Flower was coming up with and tell me lol wasn't appropriate.

 

[Cooler]

Sure but it still prompts more dialouge and such that is nice for day 1 which is about getting info more than anything.

Dialogue is good yes but delibrately misleading is not a townie play.

 

[Natalija]

Ok but does he use it like every other post as town? Besides, I want Cooler to go in! I've seen him do that D1! There's a reason he scares me when I'm scum.

Just look at how he acts towards the Cypher lynch. I never really see him go in there either, where is his questioning? Honestly he's mostly just repeating statements others have said as well.

Maybe I need to sleep on it, but yeah, so far, Cooler doesn't look well to me.

I think he probably uses it more as scum, based on the two games I've ISOd. But alas it's like fishing for a whale.

That being said I'm fine with any lynch between Diez, Hero, Hayumi and Cooler, so do as you please

 

[nfcnorth]

Also for the record I am caught up. Just not entirely settled on how I feel on things just yet.

 

[SinRaven]

Then let's get to work.

Anyone aside from Cooler who pinged you?

Ugh I still barely read anything, but as always Juan and Lord Melkor give me bad vibes, so I'll keep my eye on them.

I don't know what the fuck Nessos is doing this game.

And Melodie needs to get active or vigged, simple as that.

 

[Natalija]

Ya'll are actually going for this. Besides that look at the bollocks that Flower was coming up with and tell me lol wasn't appropriate.

It's because I've been thinking about it too.

So I went to check, I wouldn't do it baselessly. Still could be wrong ofc

 

[Natalija]

Ugh I still barely read anything, but as always Juan and Lord Melkor give me bad vibes, so I'll keep my eye on them.

I don't know what the fuck Nessos is doing this game.

And Melodie needs to get active or vigged, simple as that.

All I've seen Nessos do is shade Flowa. Which is a given

Melodie had one post

 

[nfcnorth]

Dialogue is good yes but delibrately misleading is not a townie play.

Don't entirely disagree but the problem is "misleading" is going to wildly vary on who you ask.

 

[Cooler]

Ok but does he use it like every other post as town? Besides, I want Cooler to go in! I've seen him do that D1! There's a reason he scares me when I'm scum.

Just look at how he acts towards the Cypher lynch. I never really see him go in there either, where is his questioning? Honestly he's mostly just repeating statements others have said as well.

Maybe I need to sleep on it, but yeah, so far, Cooler doesn't look well to me.

What's wrong with easing into a game man. I'm still working during the day as well.

Besides if you respect my town play then D1'ing me isn't a very good play right? It's not like I've been coasting, even if I've not been going balls deep yet.

 

[Cooler]

Don't entirely disagree but the problem is "misleading" is going to wildly vary on who you ask.

Fair enough. How about the tone of his post felt a bit dishonest to me.

 

[Flower]

Ugh I still barely read anything, but as always Juan and Lord Melkor give me bad vibes, so I'll keep my eye on them.

I don't know what the fuck Nessos is doing this game.

And Melodie needs to get active or vigged, simple as that.

I say if Nessos and Melodie haven't done anything productive by the end of this DP, vig them off. No need to bother with reads on them.


LM is being LM. I can see him being Town and scum, this usually shows later down the line.


How exactly is Town Juan? Never played with his Town self.

 

[Natalija]

Juan is in this game?

 

[Flower]

Juan is in this game?

Yes. He's the other guy aside from us who doesn't read.

 

[Flower]

Rn Cooler regrets ever defending Sin.

 

[SinRaven]

What's wrong with easing into a game man. I'm still working during the day as well.

Besides if you respect my town play then D1'ing me isn't a very good play right? It's not like I've been coasting, even if I've not been going balls deep yet.

Okay now this defense sets off all the wrong flags for me. Even trying to play the pity side?

"Oh don't lynch me I might be good later on"

No, show it now.

You also haven't answered me yet: who are your scumreads outside of Cypher??

 

[Ekkologix]

I mean yes, but one part definitely matters: the Town!Cooler I know is a lot more questioning and picks up on more things then I've seen you do here as early as day one. This passive attitude doesn't suit me well. You can say you're not passive with your push on Cypher, but I think we can all conclude that was some low hanging fruit, especially since myself AND others seem to agree her playstyle is more akin to Town!Flower.

Other than that, you just seem pretty carefree. I don't like it.

so u agree both cooler and melkor seem to be changing playstyles

but u think cooler is the worst of the 2

omoshiroi

what r ur takes on melkor while we r on the topic of fakeness

 

[nfcnorth]

Fair enough. How about the tone of his post felt a bit dishonest to me.

Ok but I bet you can already see what the follow up to that would be. I

 

[Ekkologix]

also can u stop with this town!sin

looks weird lol

 

[Shrike]

What's wrong with easing into a game man. I'm still working during the day as well.

Besides if you respect my town play then D1'ing me isn't a very good play right? It's not like I've been coasting, even if I've not been going balls deep yet.

But you also didn't say anything regarding your other reads but just defending your play, which is kinda strange since it's obvious you just casually tunneled Cypher but changed the tune now to a lot less casual

 

[SinRaven]

also can u stop with this town!sin

looks weird lol

No. You look weird.

 

[Ekkologix]

Sorry @SinRaven for suspecting you. You're starting to become a solid Town read.

wow its that easy to just change ur mind??

sumimasen sin senpai, sorry for ever doubting ur town!ness

 

[SinRaven]

so u agree both cooler and melkor seem to be changing playstyles

but u think cooler is the worst of the 2

omoshiroi

what r ur takes on melkor while we r on the topic of fakeness

I don't know which of the two looks worse tbf, all I'm saying is I looked into Cooler more and I've pointed out what I've noticed in him.

Don't know much about LM yet but like I said he gave me bad vibes. There might've been a particular post that stood out to me but I really want to sleep right now so good night.

 

[Flower]

wow its that easy to just change ur mind??

sumimasen sin senpai, sorry for ever doubting ur town!ness

Sometimes it takes a heated argument to reach a conclusion.

Rn my conclusion is that Sin is starting to sound more Town.


You know, progressing reads is a thing.

 

[Melodie]

[vote lynch cyprus]

I didn't catch up yet but from what I read so far I really don't like their posts. Apologies to everyone and the host but I'll be full in action next phase of I were to be alive still

 

[Natalija]

I know who would spice things up: @Laix

 

[Ekkologix]

Well, I looked it up, and indeed you use lol as town too you used lol when you called me a bitch etc.

did u google "does cooler use lol alot as town?"

 

[Melodie]

All I've seen Nessos do is shade Flowa. Which is a given

Melodie had one post

: Pensive

 

[Flower]

I know who would spice things up: @Laix

He's in the game??

 

[Melodie]

Ok so like, I think Cooler is scum and its gonna be for the stupidest reason ever.

Like every second post of his has "lol" at the end. It feels like he's downplaying a lot of the things he says, trying to rub it of as a joke or something.

I don't know. The Town!Cooler I know is a lot more tryhard and a lot more questioning. Here it seems like he's just seeing how things goes. Aligns with how he kinda backs off out of Flower, but still keeps his vote on her. He doesn't really seem to care enough to actually scumhunt.

This carefree attitude he emulates with the "lol" thing is not akin to his town play at all. I'm not buying it.

[Vote Lynch Cooler]

This is about the best case I have right now. Lol.

lol

 

[Natalija]

did u google "does cooler use lol alot as town?"

HAHAHA no, I ISOd him in ToG and the ToL games

 

[Flower]

Who the hell is Cyprus? Why is a country being voted?

 

[Ekkologix]

I say if Nessos and Melodie haven't done anything productive by the end of this DP, vig them off. No need to bother with reads on them.


LM is being LM. I can see him being Town and scum, this usually shows later down the line.


How exactly is Town Juan? Never played with his Town self.

really cypher? redirect vig target without even reads on them

 

[Ekkologix]

He's in the game??

looks faker than sin asking if melody is in the game

 

[Ekkologix]

Juan is in this game?

this too is fake af coastalija

 

[Cooler]

Okay now this defense sets off all the wrong flags for me. Even trying to play the pity side?

"Oh don't lynch me I might be good later on"

No, show it now.

You also haven't answered me yet: who are your scumreads outside of Cypher??

I mean that's not what I said but ok.

I've not even been inactive so I don't see why I should need to defend my activity levels to anyone.

I'm not a fan of JW and Vivo has pinged me a little but I'd need to ISO him as it's just the one post where I felt like he was maybe intentionally being misleading.

 

[Cooler]

But you also didn't say anything regarding your other reads but just defending your play, which is kinda strange since it's obvious you just casually tunneled Cypher but changed the tune now to a lot less casual

I'm less casual now? Well I am being voted.
I'm not really scum reading people at the moment. If Cypher is town then I think JW perhaps had TMI there, but that's the only other solid ping I;ve had.

 

[Ekkologix]

[vote lynch cyprus]

I didn't catch up yet but from what I read so far I really don't like their posts. Apologies to everyone and the host but I'll be full in action next phase of I were to be alive still

and if u arent full in action next day?

 

[Vivo Diez]

Cooler's POV atm

 

[Cooler]

What's untruthful about it?

Missed this.

Well for one I never withdrew my case against Cypher. The others seemed to reach the consensus that this was town meta Flower rather than scum - something which Denim sort of hinted at feeling during his exchange with Flower. There was no sudden epiphany brought on by Sin's posting.

 

[Cooler]

Vivo actually looks more town to me on briefly reviewing his posts.

 

[Flower]

Cooler's POV atm

Make more of those .

 

[Cooler]

Cooler's POV atm

Yeah wouldn't go that far aha.

 

[Juan]

feels like hero is purposely acting too dem scummy to label scum lol

 

[Juan]

You’re posting like a Alibaba/Juan

this is an insult and i seek IMMEDIATE redress

 

[Flower]

Gonna go sleep now.

For now [Vote Lynch Cooler].

Can't promise to be back before the Day ends cuz no clue how long I'll sleep. GN.

 

[Juan]

You know what...

[Change Vote Lynch Cypher].

I want this lynch now to happen.

Perhaps after that some of you actually get a clear head and call out the people who voted me over Bulls***.

what in the actual living fuck

 

[Juan]

"LUL U THINK I'M SCUM???? ALRIGHT BITCH BOY LET'S HAVE ME LYNCHED AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS"



this serves no purpose past stroking your own ego, nevermind that IF there was scum in your wagon, all they're gonna do is laugh at you for handing them ur ass on a silver platter

nf mafia 101 errybody

 

[Vivo Diez]

Missed this.

Well for one I never withdrew my case against Cypher.

To be fair, I just said you cooled off it, not that completely withdrew your case.

The others seemed to reach the consensus that this was town meta Flower rather than scum - something which Denim sort of hinted at feeling during his exchange with Flower. There was no sudden epiphany brought on by Sin's posting.

Denim pretty much withdrew his case after Sin stepped in as far as I can see and you conceded that just her "responses weren't good", unlike before when you said that 100% sure that she was scum and encouraged Nessos to vote for her.

Make more of those .

Had to learn how to use adobe premiere pro on the fly, had it as part of a subscription but never used it

 

[Cooler]

To be fair, I just said you cooled off it, not that completely withdrew your case.

Denim pretty much withdrew his case after Sin stepped in as far as I can see and you conceded that just her "responses weren't good", unlike before when you said that 100% sure that she was scum and encouraged Nessos to vote for her.

Had to learn how to use adobe premiere pro on the fly, had it as part of a subscription but never used it

So I should beat a dead horse all phase? Don't think I cooled off really, I said her responses were garbage e.g. scummy. But I'm content to wait and see how the game develops for now seeing as the wagon has evaporated. Still another 12 hours in the phase or something.