Game Holy Shōnen Trinity 5 (mafia wins!)

[Flower]

Don't see how ya'll can be so sure this is town Flower when imo she's been pretty panicky and throwing shade at people that suss her which she often does as scum.

But OK lol.

Salty your mislynch plan didn't work?

 

[Hero]

Oh, so it's not that you don't believe Sin's absence, it's that you're questioning Hayumi's defense of his absence early on? Even though you don't personally suspect anything nefarious about his absence?

Not sure what that will get you, but I guess it's better than doing nothing

Yes.

 

[Natalija]

Don't see how ya'll can be so sure this is town Flower when imo she's been pretty panicky and throwing shade at people that suss her which she often does as scum.

But OK lol.

It's because I'd rather skip this tango at least in one game

 

[Cooler]

Salty your mislynch plan didn't work?

Case in point lol.

 

[SinRaven]

Don't see how ya'll can be so sure this is town Flower when imo she's been pretty panicky and throwing shade at people that suss her which she often does as scum.

But OK lol.

Which is why I asked others if they agreed if she seemed panicky. That's the only part I agree with is akin to Scum!Flower. What makes her seem so panicky to you?

Throwing shade at people though, and general stubbornness, that is just Flower in general lmao.

 

[Cooler]

It's because I'd rather skip this tango at least in one game

But I've missed all the tangos and love to dance.

 

[Vivo Diez]

Sigh what did you want, me to tell you that I'm a villain and scum? Or that I'm a villain and town?

I'm more thinking indie

 

[Drago]

I'd like to talk more about Lord Melkor. Really not feeling him so far this day phase.

 

[Natalija]

I'm more thinking indie

Yeah, sure, whatever you want

 

[Flower]

I'd like to talk more about Lord Melkor. Really not feeling him so far this day phase.

I don't know. He seems pretty Melkor-ish. Could be scum or could not. You can't really tell when it comes to him anyway

 

[Drago]

I do believe that there is a scum in Cooler and Melkor. More likely that both are scum to me than one being Town.

 

[Hayumi]

Yeah I think Flower is town, reminds me of her town meta. She hangs onto people for small things usually and right now I don't think she's panicking, but rather she's just frustrated. Imo it's between Cooler and Usopp, but I'd say Usopp is worse.

[ Vote Lynch Usopp ]

What does a panicked flower look like?

 

[Cooler]

Which is why I asked others if they agreed if she seemed panicky. That's the only part I agree with is akin to Scum!Flower. What makes her seem so panicky to you?

Throwing shade at people though, and general stubbornness, that is just Flower in general lmao.

Mayhe she just can't deal with pressure in any alignment.

Just the way she jumped on anyone sussing her, the way she was basically incoherent and making things up, how she was parroting things people had said to her back at me...just garbage responses all around lol.

 

[Flower]

What does a panicked flower look like?

She goes full troll mode.

 

[Cooler]

I do believe that there is a scum in Cooler and Melkor. More likely that both are scum to me than one being Town.

Would love to know why lol.

 

[Hero]

@SinRaven why do you keep putting exclamation points before Flowa’s alignment

 

[Flower]

Mayhe she just can't deal with pressure in any alignment.

Just the way she jumped on anyone sussing her, the way she was basically incoherent and making things up, how she was parroting things people had said to her back at me...just garbage responses all around lol.

Scum Flowa: Scared under pressure.
Town Flowa: Just extremely pissed and frustrated.

 

[Cooler]

Scum Flowa: Scared under pressure.
Town Flowa: Just extremely pissed and frustrated.

Hard to tell the two apart.

Looks like you're living today so we'll see.

 

[Drago]

My suspicion wth Collier is stemming from his Flower read. His initial vote on Flower felt kinda lazy and half-assed. He was more or less parroting off of my suspicion against. I get that he agreed that she didn't look get from the interaction, he wasn't really trying to make any effort with the read and just plopped a vote and called he good. From what I read, he only started getting into once Flower called him out.

 

[Flower]

Hard to tell the two apart.

Looks like you're living today so we'll see.

You give up pretty quickly for somebody who said it's part of Town's job to push their scum reads for lynch.


You rather sound like scum backpedalling after seeing his plan isn't working.

 

[SinRaven]

Mayhe she just can't deal with pressure in any alignment.

Just the way she jumped on anyone sussing her, the way she was basically incoherent and making things up, how she was parroting things people had said to her back at me...just garbage responses all around lol.

The way you describe it just sounds like Town!Flower to me.

 

[SinRaven]

@SinRaven why do you keep putting exclamation points before Flowa’s alignment

It's just a thing people do when talking about certain people's alignment meta. Dunno why exactly, probably some internet thing, but I caught on to it.

 

[Vivo Diez]

Tbh the fact that both @Cooler and @Denim only cooled off pursuing @Cypher when @SinRaven came in and started defending her still seems really opportunistic to me. @SinRaven didn't really tell you guys things you shouldn't have already read from your exchange with Cypher. Seems more like you only withdrew your case against her when you saw you couldn't keep the bandwagon going after Sin "cleared" Cypher.

 

[Natalija]

Tbh the fact that both @Cooler and @Denim only cooled off pursuing @Cypher when @SinRaven came in and started defending her still seems really opportunistic to me. @SinRaven didn't really tell you guys things you shouldn't have already read from your exchange with Cypher. Seems more like you only withdrew your case against her when you saw you couldn't keep the bandwagon going after Sin "cleared" Cypher.

Are you even reading it carefully?

 

[Flower]

I actually like Vivo's posts. Seem very analytical.

 

[Flower]

Although how heated Denim got makes me lean Town on him. He usually doesn't get this heated as scum.

 

[Vivo Diez]

Are you even reading it carefully?

Are you going to do anything this game besides complain about other people's posts and assertions without providing any valuable information ?

 

[Natalija]

I actually like Vivo's posts. Seem very analytical.

I'd call them calculated.

Wait, @Vivo Diez did you play the prematurely ended Aries game?

 

[Drago]

Juan has been coasting pretty hard and been very off-radar this phase. Is this his normal town meta? If not, then I think he definitely should be getting more attention.

 

[Vivo Diez]

I'd call them calculated.

Wait, @Vivo Diez did you play the prematurely ended Aries game?

Yup.

 

[Hayumi]

The person who I really want to hear about this turn of events is ussop, call me crazy, but he seemed the most opportunistic of all to get random wagons going.

 

[Hayumi]

Juan has been coasting pretty hard and been very off-radar this phase. Is this his normal town meta? If not, then I think he definitely should be getting more attention.

It’s his normal meta period. Hard to say if he’s done anything indicative of scum or town yet.

 

[Natalija]

Yup.

That's interesting, you didn't make such calculated posts there. (I checked)

Are you changing the way you play?

 

[Natalija]

Are you going to do anything this game besides complain about other people's posts and assertions without providing any valuable information ?

Both Denim and Cooler adapted to the situation at hand. Doesn't necessarily speak of their alignment, but it ain't out of the blue like "It's because Sin defended her!!!!"

 

[Flower]

@Natalija @Vivo Diez what's your deal?

 

[Natalija]

@Natalija @Vivo Diez what's your deal?

I think he's scum there's no deal

 

[Ekkologix]

I am Mei Terumi btw and Town. But you will see after this DP anyway.

yes mei terumi the towns cop or mason right? dont forget to complete ur fake claim

Yeah I think Flower is town, reminds me of her town meta. She hangs onto people for small things usually and right now I don't think she's panicking, but rather she's just frustrated. Imo it's between Cooler and Usopp, but I'd say Usopp is worse.

[ Vote Lynch Usopp ]

biggest mistake of ur life ningen.

imma take this vote a soft defence of cypher. she barely has like 4 votes and already started a tantrum

not paniced my ass..

 

[Flower]

I think he's scum there's no deal

Deal or no deal?

 

[Ekkologix]

also @Melontonin

why do u think me joke voting hayumi then back to cypher is bad?

who exactly am i saving here or how am i being opportunistic like u claim

i want both cypher and hayumi gone. and now u too

 

[Ekkologix]

Well at this point a Mei or Anko would easily counterclaim, and no one seems alarmed by her claim.

I'm not sure how scum are picked among characters though, because no way all villains are scum even

btw are u sure both our submissions cant be roles? so maybe someone doesnt get any of their submissions but another gets both

alao nothing sets mei terumi as town

 

[Hayumi]

Isn’t it also been assumed that the mafia could have fake claims prepared? Maybe not but I figured I’d throw it out there.

 

[Vivo Diez]

That's interesting, you didn't make such calculated posts there. (I checked)

Are you changing the way you play?

I don't think I'm doing anything differently . I didn't fluff last game either until I was turned into a corpse that couldn't even use my abilities anymore

Both Denim and Cooler adapted to the situation at hand. Doesn't necessarily speak of their alignment, but it ain't out of the blue like "It's because Sin defended her!!!!"

Doesn't necessarily not speak of their alignment or motives either

 

[Natalija]

btw are u sure both our submissions cant be roles? so maybe someone doesnt get any of their submissions but another gets both

alao nothing sets mei terumi as town

100% sure. Every person has to get one of their two roles. The only way to make it like that is for the host to pick one.

 

[Vivo Diez]

@Natalija @Vivo Diez what's your deal?

She's butthurt I've got her all figured out

 

[Melontonin]

Third thing is Cooler. They're very convinced that Flower is scum, and particularly trying to convince John about it? Why John out of all the people here? And trying so hard to do it too, I don't get it.

I am still reading, I just thought I would leave this here.

@Cooler sorry I realized I didn't ask directly and I thought I tagged you, but basically it's this. I remember seeing you trying to convince John that Flower was scum multiple times and I was wondering why John specifically?

 

[Ekkologix]

How about Cooler?

uhh

i feel like cooler is not as fake this game and more genuine in your push tbh lol

u rly think hes better gone over denim and sin? or thats just cuz he still didnt take his vote off u yet

 

[Natalija]

I don't think I'm doing anything differently . I didn't fluff last game either until I was turned into a corpse that couldn't even use my abilities anymore

I'm not saying you fluff, you just don't do calculated posts like:

Anyway, I'm gonna go off for a while. Here are some current thoughts:

-Alibaba is completely fluffing just like last game I played with him where he flipped scum. I'm not a big fan of that strategy in general even if he is town, it's not helpful at all. I will move my vote off him if someone more worthy comes up, but it's staying for now.

-Bandwagon on Cypher is a bit weird. Some people called him out for his arguments against lynching Sin being weak, but their arguments against Cypher aren't that much stronger. Cypher himself got voted to be lynched by LM who's only argument was "you were mafia prior". And then @Go D. Usopp and @Lord Melkor basically gauged Cypher's response to the lynch. Cypher did a similar thing against Sin and pointed out how overtly defensive he was getting. If we're calling Cypher out for this kind of shit, why aren't we calling out @Go D. Usopp and @Lord Melkor? Some people are coming off a little bit opportunistic.

-Hayumi, Hero, LM seem fine to me for now. Don't trust anyone else yet.

This and the one this page. Especially since the timing of ^ was after me saying you're just repeating Hayumi's thoughts.

 

[Melontonin]

What does a panicked flower look like?

She wouldn't vote for herself or give up, from what I've seen. She just genuinely sounds frustrated.

 

[Ekkologix]

again cooler and melkor r different this game. seems like they r more pushy and less fake so far

a change of playstyles thats a bit scary

but i like coolers push on cypher. i dont like melkors derail to hayumi

did melkor even comment on cypher vs sin/denim

i also dont like shrikes vote on nessos

 

[Ekkologix]

overall i dont think sin and cypher r same allignment

melkor and hayumi probably different allignments too

from these 4 there is a fair chance to hit 2 scum, or at the very least 1 ^

cooler is alot better player than just come here and make it so blatant that he is pushing cypher or defending sin if he was scum imo.

my vote will still remain on cypher, unless we r cfding shrike/hayumi/melkor/melon

 

[Flower]

Usopp, are you gonna call everyone who disagrees with you scum now? Cuz you wanna lynch half the player list at this rate.

 

[Ekkologix]

im sorry on phone so posting sht from 3 pages behind. dont laugh ningens

i am also not liking hayumi giving excuses about their play and activity and how scummy he looks when none even asked for it. seems a bit insecure

 

[Vivo Diez]

I'm not saying you fluff, you just don't do calculated posts like:


This and the one this page. Especially since the timing of ^ was after me saying you're just repeating Hayumi's thoughts.

I think you're giving yourself a bit too much credit on how much you influence my posts, you're not the only girl that's not a girl that's a girl in my life

1. The alibaba bit I had already talked about before that, the post that you failed to read when you made the assertion that I was repeating Hayumi's thoughts.

2. Cypher asked me what I thought about the posters going after her, so I wrote about that as well.

 

[Ekkologix]

Usopp, are you gonna call everyone who disagrees with you scum now? Cuz you wanna lynch half the player list at this rate.

half? i am only naming 4 out of 21 players

get ur fax right ningen

 

[Melontonin]

also @Melontonin

why do u think me joke voting hayumi then back to cypher is bad?

who exactly am i saving here or how am i being opportunistic like u claim

i want both cypher and hayumi gone. and now u too

I'm not sure which joke vote you are referring to? I wasn't looking at the Hayumi vote, I was specifically looking at this one:

sure then be our first wagon

lets see if u rly dont care

[vote lynch cypher

put melker/hayumi as second wagon unless u ningens have someone better?

 

[Ekkologix]

and im saying we got 1 or 2 scum outta those 4. not all 4 lol

cypher just begone

 

[Cooler]

My suspicion wth Collier is stemming from his Flower read. His initial vote on Flower felt kinda lazy and half-assed. He was more or less parroting off of my suspicion against. I get that he agreed that she didn't look get from the interaction, he wasn't really trying to make any effort with the read and just plopped a vote and called he good. From what I read, he only started getting into once Flower called him out.

Her responses sucked and I wanted to pile more pressure on for reactions. Her reactions to me were just as bad...

Wouldn't say I parroted you but whatever.

 

[Cooler]

The way you describe it just sounds like Town!Flower to me.

Fair enough.

 

[Ekkologix]

I'm not sure which joke vote you are referring to? I wasn't looking at the Hayumi vote, I was specifically looking at this one:

yea what about it?
my vote shuda been on her since the start if i didnt move it to hayumi as a troll

 

[Cooler]

Tbh the fact that both @Cooler and @Denim only cooled off pursuing @Cypher when @SinRaven came in and started defending her still seems really opportunistic to me. @SinRaven didn't really tell you guys things you shouldn't have already read from your exchange with Cypher. Seems more like you only withdrew your case against her when you saw you couldn't keep the bandwagon going after Sin "cleared" Cypher.

Your posts come across as attempts to stir the pot. My vote is still on Cypher btw.

 

[Ekkologix]

ok if cypher is really town which is like 1% chance of happening

we shud start looking at these mfkers defending her cuz noway u guys town read her without having tmi on her

 

[John Wayne]

and im saying we got 1 or 2 scum outta those 4. not all 4 lol

cypher just begone

1 out of 4 isn't any better odds than throwing a dart randomly and lynching that person. 1 in 4 would be 5 players this game and there definitely shouldn't be less than 5 scum this game counting Mafia + Indie.

 

[Vivo Diez]

Your posts come across as attempts to stir the pot. My vote is still on Cypher btw.

 

[Cooler]

@Cooler sorry I realized I didn't ask directly and I thought I tagged you, but basically it's this. I remember seeing you trying to convince John that Flower was scum multiple times and I was wondering why John specifically?

JW defended Flower and said she didn't seem panicky. I disagreed and probed him about it as her responses got worse imo.

I don't think me tagging and asking questions to see JW's responses should be misconstrued as "trying to convince ".

 

[Natalija]

I think you're giving yourself a bit too much credit on how much you influence my posts, you're not the only girl that's not a girl that's a girl in my life

1. The alibaba bit I had already talked about before that, the post that you failed to read when you made the assertion that I was repeating Hayumi's thoughts.

2. Cypher asked me what I thought about the posters going after her, so I wrote about that as well.

You can say what you want, but you did totally agree with Hayumi.

I'm a girl

 

[Cooler]

Well at least you admit it lol.

 

[Flower]

@Vivo Diez I'm a girl, too, btw.

 

[Ekkologix]

if cypher is scum we look at melkor/hayumi/shriek/melon

if cypher is town we look at
hayumi/JW/melon/vivo/nat/ maybe denim

sin denim and cooler r gna be harder to identify. if they r scum they r playing it well taking advantage of cyphers situation

i rest my case

 

[青月光]

This thread is hardcore

 

[Vivo Diez]

Well at least you admit it lol.

When you stir the pot enough sometimes a little cooler or denim jump out screaming and yelling.

@Vivo Diez I'm a girl, too, btw.

I'm still more convinced on Natalija, she provided pics

 

[Vivo Diez]

if cypher is scum we look at melkor/hayumi/shriek/melon

if cypher is town we look at
hayumi/JW/melon/vivo/nat/ maybe denim

sin denim and cooler r gna be harder to identify. if they r scum they r playing it well taking advantage of cyphers situation

i rest my case

I like how in both of your scenarios we're still looking at Hayumi

 

[nfcnorth]

Your posts come across as attempts to stir the pot. My vote is still on Cypher btw.

Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

 

[John Wayne]

This thread is hardcore

Are you actually gonna do anything?

 

[青月光]

Fear not my fellow townies. I have a bulletproof way for town to win.

Everyone must

Spoiler:

 

[Cooler]

Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

Putting an untruthful spin on events is yes.

 

[Cooler]

Are you actually gonna do anything?

Alibaba isn't a bad policy lynch tbh.

 

[Melontonin]

Ok @Go D. Usopp I looked back and from what I see this is what happened:

-> Pressure vote on Flower
-> Joke vote on Hayumi - that's fine but you've also said you have a feeling they could be scum
-> Scum lean on melkor or Hayumi, and you elaborate on Melkor.
-> Vote on flower again after a few votes on her

It looks better, my bad I completely missed the earlier vote.

 

[Ekkologix]

So if everyone has come to the conclusion that I'm Town, can we actually look at the opportunistic voters now?


Also, people who defended me aren't in the clear either.


[Unvote].

woah woah who said u can just clear urself and start giving orders too

 

[Vivo Diez]

Putting an untruthful spin on events is yes.

What's untruthful about it?

 

[Ekkologix]

Scum Flowa: Scared under pressure.
Town Flowa: Just extremely pissed and frustrated.

dont just meta read urself ningen. thats our job to do

u can see this soft derail off of u lmao

and we arent even at the end of the day. thats when all these afk ningens will come on and derail this sht like no other

ur flip gives us the most info by far now that we r this invested in it with that many people contributing and throwing shades your way and others defending u