Cooler
Well-Known Member
Cooler killing me hardtilted me holy shit
remind me again why that happened?
Sorry man, I protected you two nights in a row. My win/con changed but only lasted a phase...
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Sorry man, I protected you two nights in a row. My win/con changed but only lasted a phase...
Lord Genome
Spiral King
Oh yeah Didi could you be more upfront of you being a vig
Or did you want to be targeted
~Mystic Serenade~
King of the Round
My only regret this game was WAD eating the two post restrictions by posting first in phase. 
Didi
*
that would've been fair
I got really lucky that Franky decided to roleblock me n1
That made me non-redirectable AND non-roleblockable, so with a doc on my ass I was a force of nature
so definitely rolecrush material yeah
but I didn't get to do enough actual kills cuz
>forgot n3
>legend died same night 4
Didi
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Eh, I said early "get a doc on me"
and then I proved it with a vig action that it might be worth doccing me
I wanted to bait roleblocks and redirects cuz they didn't do shit against me
Shizune
damn so I actually made the GODLIKE prediction and it only failed cuz "lol immune to kills"
No this isn't right, the faction kill was redirected to Cooler that night like all other redirectable abilities.
Here are my notes for the game if anyone cares to look them over:
Spoiler:
I'll be back later to post the remaining hidden roles.
novaselinenever
Best Dad
It wasn't really about his role even though he made that clear lol. It was the target announcement.
Check out WPK's role. We can pseudo bookie vote and actions targets, and if correct, they get poisoned (role-crushed) then die 2 cycles later.
Our only correct one was immune to poisons
I played like shit, sorry town.
I was gonna kill Mystic if I wasn't lynched
I was gonna kill Mystic if I wasn't lynched
I legit thought it was redirected to oko when I posted that. After everyone started debating me about I decided it was too late to go back and embrace it"I'm not the one that recruited him"
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
wow im mad LMAO
this is why u never abstain
this is why u never abstain
Didi
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FLORIDA MAN
bastard
thats what you get for making a bitchmade play instead of going chad all in
ur dead ass right
there was no real reason too either tbh
just didn’t give it much thought
Didi
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also I gotta say
that Bard role is really unique and very cool
that Bard role is really unique and very cool
Shizune
Would the culling have killed Mystic? Not like I would have specifically targeted Jinx. 
Shizune
It wasn't really about his role even though he made that clear lol. It was the target announcement.
Check out WPK's role. We can pseudo bookie vote and actions targets, and if correct, they get poisoned (role-crushed) then die 2 cycles later.
Our only correct one was immune to poisons
I also laughed at you guys piling blight onto all three of the indies that were control-immune.
Shizune
Would the culling have killed Mystic? Not like I would have specifically targeted Jinx.
No, Jinx had to be lynched or role crushed.
~Mystic Serenade~
King of the Round
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
tfw the chad WPK lynch got derailed Day 1 by some idiot counterclaiming me as Survivor 
Didi
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tfw the chad WPK lynch got derailed Day 1 by some idiot counterclaiming me as Survivor
holy shit
the TRUE tragedy right here
fuck you melodie
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
What was with you bitches not believing my Time Bomb story? What if that was true and I killed you all?
Didi
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Didi
*
yeah I know it's a bastard game
but
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
it was just too obviously bullshit
but
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
it was just too obviously bullshit
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
I should of added in that Time Bomb doesn't show up on deathm8 everyone had seen your role
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
@novaselinenever how many votes did I give you?
novaselinenever
Best Dad
I was role-crushed at the time of most of your votes so you gave me none. If I wasn't crushed at the time, I'd have had +4 on you
tfw the chad WPK lynch got derailed Day 1 by some idiot counterclaiming me as Survivor
holy shit
the TRUE tragedy right here
fuck you melodie
Jump off the closest cliff. Together.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
Lynching Franky over you would have been the better option to be honest
Shizune
Aw thanks Melodie, that means a lot. The role was actually inspired by my own role in Favorites which was also something I'd never seen before, so this game couldn't have been done without indirect help from @Tiger.
By the way, I never got around to answering your post-death PM. If memory serves, you said you planned to never use your role crush but that's not actually how the role worked. You had to attempt to role crush someone every night. That was the added layer of difficulty to your survivor wincon: your role was toxic to the other roles around it, and both factions would benefit from killing you.
Anyway I'm about to post the remaining hidden roles.
Lord Genome
Spiral King
Where's the full role list
Shizune
Where's the full role list
Do you want me to post the entire role list without the flavor added? Most of the roles (except the ones I'm about to post) are already in the threadmarks.
Shizune
Town roles
Okosan - Tahm Kench
Degaforce - Ryze
Lux - Poutanko
Mr. Waffles - Sivir
Indies
MAD - Bard
Okosan - Tahm Kench
Shizune said:
Tahm Kench
The River King
wincon: have the most posts at the end of the game
"Call me king, call me demon - water forgets the names of the drowned."
[One Shot Passive - Thick Skin] - As the demonic aspect of gluttony, if Tahm Kench is killed his role will be hidden and his death will be delayed by two cycles.
[Active - Devour] - Tahm Kench can trap another player in the watery abyss hidden inside him, where they can communicate outside the thread. Kench's victim is role crushed, and abilities targeting them are redirected to Tahm Kench. Kench can only hold one person at a time.
Degaforce - Ryze
Shizune said:
Ryze
The Rune Mage
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town
"Take care with this world. What is made can be unmade."
[Active - Arcane Mastery] - During the night Ryze can enscribe a magical rune. Ryze cannot use his own runes, and two nights after writing a rune Ryze can gift it to another player. When Ryze dies, he can hand out the runes he's made but hasn't sent yet.
[Active - Rune of Vex] - This rune wards the reader against another player for one night. If the reader is attacked by their target, their kill will be reflected back at them. This rune isn't powerful enough to work against superkills.
[Active - Rune of Amn] - This rune of sealing can bind its reader to another player for the rest of the cycle, redirecting abilities targeting one player to the other and vice verse.
[Active - Rune of Shael] - This truth-bearing rune privately reveals the reader's abilities and alignment to another player.
[Active - Rune of Zod] - This rune clones the reader, causing their votes to stack for one day.
Lux - Poutanko
Shizune said:
Luxanna Crownguard
The Lady of Luminosity
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town
"The light inside is what makes me different, and I'm always careful where I shine it."
[Active - Counterspell] - Lux learns and memorize the effects of abilities that target her. She can combine two memorized abilities to temporarily create a more powerful ability for herself.
[Active - Spell Thief] - When the other players target each other with magical abilities, they leave spell residue. During the night Lux can harvest the residue from another player, temporarily gaining an ability that was used on them the previous cycle.
Mr. Waffles - Sivir
Shizune" said:
Sivir
The Battle Mistress
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town
"Coin may buy you skill for a day, but never loyalty."
[Passive - Sellsword] - Sivir is a mercenary who fights for the highest bidder, which just happens to be the town. When Sivir dies, this ability and her win condition are hidden from her role. If Sivir is alive when the mafia would win the game, she will win with them.
[Active - Ricochet] - Sivir can throw her gravity-defying glaive at another player, roleblocking them for that night. If Sivir's victim attempted to target another player, Sivir's blade will find them the following night, roleblocking them and telling Sivir their name. Sivir's blade returns to her two nights after she uses this ability, and she cannot use Ricochet or Spell Shield until it returns.
[Active - Spell Shield] - During the night Sivir can use her enchanted weapon to ward against magic, causing magical abilities to fail on her. If Sivir successfully blocks an ability, she will learn the ability's effect and the name of its user, and Spell Shield has no cooldown. If Sivir used Spell Shield but doesn't block an ability, then she cannot use it again for the next two cycles.
Indies
MAD - Bard
Shizune said:
Bard
The Wandering Caretaker
wincon: prevent the game from ending
"The chimes of his footsteps are echoes of change."
[Passive - Cosmic Being] - Bard is far too powerful to be roleblocked, role crushed or controlled.
[Active - Tempered Fate] - Bard can intervene once in each player's life, placing them under an effect of his choosing for the rest of the cycle. For example, Bard could create a portal to help someone escape the lynch. Bard cannot target the same person twice, and he wins when he uses this ability to extend the game an extra phase where it otherwise would have ended.
Why is Tahm not indie? he doesn't have a town wincon
Shizune
Whoops, I accidentally posted his role with the new wincon Lulu gave him instead of his original town one. I probably did that for Cooler/Udyr too, now that I think about it. I'll fix them later, the NF editor freaks out when you try to edit quotes so I'll have to redo the post.
So did he win the game as well?
Shizune
No, Lulu's conversions were undone when she died so everyone had their original wincons when the game ended.
JoJo
nani the fuck
was i right about mafia being certainlyt's cancer champions????
Shizune
Closing thoughts
This game will forever serve as an excellent example of @Dragon D. Luffy's theory of dampening (which is why everyone should read his guide). I was inspired by Favorites, so the roles were full of abilities and consequentially the factions were outrageously powerful. This didn't become a problem because players tend to squander their roles, and the abilities tend to cancel each other out. For example, the mafia's blight and poisoning abilities were wasted on the few players who were immune to poisonous or controlling abilities while the town-leading roles Zilean and Sejuani butted heads against each other.
I don't actually think the town played that poorly, in fact I learned a lot about how the town can suffer from a confusing setup. There was a sense of chaos among the town that was contrasted by the mafia's coolness and confidence. I think this was from a combination of people not expecting strange setups from me, and certain players relying too heavily on abilities to lead discussion. Many town players had decent reads, but they lacked the organization and conviction to accomplish anything. I hope those players learned to trust their instinct, and to not let themselves become preoccupied by mechanics.
Thank you everyone for playing. Mafia is one of my favorite and longest-standing past-times and for all the fighting and hair-pulling I do here, I cherish this website as my creative outlet and that's why I spend so many hours on it. I can only hope that my behavior outside the game didn't distract any of you from this thread or discourage you from signing up in the future. I want you all know that your participation does mean a lot to me and though hosting can feel like a job at times, I'm grateful that you even care to play my games.
This game will forever serve as an excellent example of @Dragon D. Luffy's theory of dampening (which is why everyone should read his guide). I was inspired by Favorites, so the roles were full of abilities and consequentially the factions were outrageously powerful. This didn't become a problem because players tend to squander their roles, and the abilities tend to cancel each other out. For example, the mafia's blight and poisoning abilities were wasted on the few players who were immune to poisonous or controlling abilities while the town-leading roles Zilean and Sejuani butted heads against each other.
I don't actually think the town played that poorly, in fact I learned a lot about how the town can suffer from a confusing setup. There was a sense of chaos among the town that was contrasted by the mafia's coolness and confidence. I think this was from a combination of people not expecting strange setups from me, and certain players relying too heavily on abilities to lead discussion. Many town players had decent reads, but they lacked the organization and conviction to accomplish anything. I hope those players learned to trust their instinct, and to not let themselves become preoccupied by mechanics.
Thank you everyone for playing. Mafia is one of my favorite and longest-standing past-times and for all the fighting and hair-pulling I do here, I cherish this website as my creative outlet and that's why I spend so many hours on it. I can only hope that my behavior outside the game didn't distract any of you from this thread or discourage you from signing up in the future. I want you all know that your participation does mean a lot to me and though hosting can feel like a job at times, I'm grateful that you even care to play my games.
JoJo
nani the fuck
none of those are certainlyt champs tho
i expected the mafia team to be like Yasuo, Riven, Zed, and Lee Sin
Shizune
oh i just missed the certainlyt part, thought just cancer in general. then just riven
JoJo
nani the fuck
ye but then i changed it upCertainlyT only worked on one of those champions Jojo
idk how many people know about zoe or whatever various reworks he did
wait not even riven to my surprise 
Shizune
Guys wtf is with y'all, CertainlyT did not make Riven 
JoJo
nani the fuck
if i was yasuo i'd screenshot my pm day 1 tbh
JoJo
nani the fuck
fire certainlyt
Shizune
Everyone who still plays knows about Zoe, that champion and CertainlyT has been one of the biggest points of discussion in the entire game since she released.
I had zoe as one of the options to pick from as a role, I decided the game wouldn't need such cancerous design
JoJo
nani the fuck
>yasuo
>thresh
>zoe
>akali
give him a lobotomy imo
>thresh
>zoe
>akali
give him a lobotomy imo
Shizune
I had zoe as one of the options to pick from as a role, I decided the game wouldn't need such cancerous design
Omg that reminds me, the story behind Zoe in this game:
So the abilities you just saw for Lux were one of the first roles I knew was going to be in the game, because it's literally reused from my Jaina role in Warcraft 3 which I felt deserved a chance to shine more in a game with more abilities. So I don't know why, but I thought Zoe was a super appealing character and I was certain you were going to pick her. I didn't know what to do when you, Broki and Pou (I didn't offer her to only the women on purpose, that happened by coincidence) all declined Zoe, I was at a loss because I knew that ability set was going to be in the game but Zoe was already the most declined character and I didn't want to risk her showing up again. So finally I said to hell with it and just slapped Zoe's abilities onto Lux instead. That ability isn't named Spell Thief after the Lux skin, it's named after the Zoe ability.
So long story short, if you HAD picked Zoe you would have had exactly the role Pou got, just with different flavor text.
JoJo
nani the fuck
No worries, he will design the teased mage class probably
well i don't play anymore (just the occasional game in ranked) and i just follow the balance shit and relevant competitive matches so that's ok with me
i also follow balance changes so i can make myself irrationally angry irl
~Mystic Serenade~
King of the Round
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
I wish someone protected you night oneDidn't really believe you but I would have been fine either way.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
How many people did you get to hop into your van @~Mystic Serenade~ ?