Game Women In Fiction (mafia+indie win!)

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Lord Melkor and JW best actual lynch choices here.

[Vote Lynch Lord Melkor]

 

[Vivo Diez]

To be fair and Devil's advocate, the OP warns some scum may be innocent, so that doesn't clear either of us on its own.
It just means if this Goddess things is real we are best off investigated next night phase instead of lynched today

It's a "@Kue type soft clear"

Anyway LM seems better now

 

[Sigismund]

Goddess sounds like Indie. Potentially there to balance things? @Katsuargi knows more about her.

Antigone?

 

[Flower]

Nvm, I should read.

 

[dunya]

i don't have this ability and if i did, i definitely wouldn't put my name in the candidates

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

@Kue You acted as if the masoning ability came from RemChu but your shown role has such an ability. So why the certainty on RemChu?

 

[Lord Melkor]

Lord Melkor and JW best actual lynch choices here.

[Vote Lynch Lord Melkor]

But you are voting for me over JW...

Is JW your teammate?

 

[Flower]

@Kue You acted as if the masoning ability came from RemChu but your shown role has such an ability. So why the certainty on RemChu?

Fake Masons can be a thing in Nitty games...

 

[Flower]

But I can see you deflecting now, WPK. Which makes me think JW is part of your team while Rem is indeed an Indie.

 

[Katsuargi]

Goddess is from Ward. Was an antagonist over there, dunno what Nitty did for the role though.

 

[Kue]

@Kue You acted as if the masoning ability came from RemChu but your shown role has such an ability. So why the certainty on RemChu?

The ability to select a Mason is Remchu's ability, not mine.

 

[Kue]

Even in the case that Remchu is a fake mason there's far better lynches. Trying to push for him should be sus (except for Cypher's case obviously).

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

But you are voting for me over JW...

Is JW your teammate?

Why do you think I should have a strong preference for JW here? I got scum pinged by your overly verbose way of saying you weren't scum d1, and that's more then I have for JW whose just generally scummy.

Immediately jumping to accusing him of being my teammate as a diversion defense of yourself doesn't help your case.

 

[Sigismund]

Goddess is from Ward. Was an antagonist over there, dunno what Nitty did for the role though.

Oh I forgot WB made a sequel lmao

 

[Flower]

Even in the case that Remchu is a fake mason there's far better lynches. Trying to push for him should be sus (except for Cypher's case obviously).

I think WPK and JW are team mates.
LM is not.
Because WPK is voting LM now when JW has a Tracker result against him and sounds like a much better lynch.

 

[Kue]

I think WPK and JW are team mates.
LM is not.
Because WPK is voting LM now when JW has a Tracker result against him and sounds like a much better lynch.

WPK might be bussing, but I agree with the JW lynch.

I'm just worried about the goddess event in the write-up.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

The ability to select a Mason is Remchu's ability, not mine.

Hmm I misread that part.

 

[Katsuargi]

Sigi: "Lady in Blue" in the Scion battle, so technically a Worm character, even if all we knew from Worm was that she took over a planet. Lol.

 

[Flower]

WPK might be bussing, but I agree with the JW lynch.

I'm just worried about the goddess event in the write-up.

Perhaps lynching scum today calms her anyway. If not, just lynch WPK.

 

[Shizune]

Sigi: "Lady in Blue" in the Scion battle, so technically a Worm character, even if all we knew from Worm was that she took over a planet. Lol.

I haven't read Worm, but this makes me want to

Like, come on Lady in Blue. Shift my wig a bit

 

[Cooler]

Down to lynch WPK and vig JW tbh.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

I keep telling you guys to follow reads more than mechanics yet here you are, saying I'm scum for voting LM instead of JW because of a track. It's just tiring playing with some of you.

 

[Sigismund]

Sigi: "Lady in Blue" in the Scion battle, so technically a Worm character, even if all we knew from Worm was that she took over a planet. Lol.

Did WB ever mention the Sleeper again or was he just dropped since even Jailbroken Taylor didn't want to even try and control him?

 

[Kue]

Down to lynch WPK and vig JW tbh.

Do we even have a vig anymore? Might as well just lynch JW.

 

[Flower]

I keep telling you guys to follow reads more than mechanics yet here you are, saying I'm scum for voting LM instead of JW because of a track. It's just tiring playing with some of you.

My read of you is that I feel like you‘re deflecting now.

 

[Flower]

Or bussing. Whichever you prefer, but you feel like scum.

 

[Katsuargi]

Sigi: was used as a dues ex machina to take out a threat later in Ward by basically using him as an environmental hazard to kick them into.

 

[Cooler]

Why do you think I should have a strong preference for JW here? I got scum pinged by your overly verbose way of saying you weren't scum d1, and that's more then I have for JW whose just generally scummy.

Immediately jumping to accusing him of being my teammate as a diversion defense of yourself doesn't help your case.

I saw him visit Kue the night he was killed...even if you distrust mechanics that's more than what you have on LM.

 

[Sigismund]

Sigi: was used as a dues ex machina to take out a threat later in Ward by basically using him as an environmental hazard to kick them into.

Huh

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

I saw him visit Kue the night he was killed...even if you distrust mechanics that's more than what you have on LM.

Until Odd claims his kill its just an action target. JW should out what he did though for sure.

 

[Hero]

this doesn't make sense. what are you saying "that ability" whose ability??

They clearly think they’re in an anime or manga

 

[Cooler]

Until Odd claims his kill its just an action target. JW should out what he did though for sure.

But he was your back up lynch yesterday you said and now you prefer LM? Doesn't add up.

 

[familyparka]

Okay so three things:

1- It would appear that both chats (Commitee and Round Table) had agreed on investigating people. Can we share those results?
2- The Goddess thing has got me fucked up, I'm not sure how to proceed about that. What role is it even refering to?
3- Hermione just turned bad, didn't she? Does this mean she's anti-town now?

 

[Hero]

Even in the case that Remchu is a fake mason there's far better lynches. Trying to push for him should be sus (except for Cypher's case obviously).

Aren’t you the reason we think he’s a mason and got cleared

 

[Kue]

Aren’t you the reason we think he’s a mason and got cleared

Yea, you can tell that Cypher is just paranoid (and we know she is town), but look at LM's post and tell me that's not opportunistic.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

But he was your back up lynch yesterday you said and now you prefer LM? Doesn't add up.

He was just the one on people's lips at the time. You're making a very flimsy case of inconsistency here.

 

[Flower]

Yea, you can tell that Cypher is just paranoid (and we know she is town), but look at LM's post and tell me that's not opportunistic.

This here, too:

Within the grouping this goddess wants, and IIRC this goddess does have an indication of being a town role, RemChu is the one I'm most paranoid about, with Cooler pinging me a bit with his nipping at my heels here and there need to ISO him, and Usopp who mainly has a believable claim going for him in terms of it's stylings/the timing of it but some very questionable anti-town behavior with everything surrounding his SinRaven plan. I do need to look more into dunya, but from a starting standpoint they're the least likely of that bunch for me to vote.

 

[Hero]

[Vote Lynch Usopp]

I’m not angering the goddess

 

[familyparka]

Reading the Day 3 post again, Hermione's bit seems off. Particularly one thing about it.

However I don't wanna openly talk about it now, because it's so blatantly obvious, that it might actually be some sort of trap in the form of a bait.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Sometimes it's hard not to jump to the conclusion that someone's scum because they don't see something that they're capable of figuring out when they're town and should be viewing things through a more neutral lens.

Sigh

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

[Vote Lynch Usopp]

I’m not angering the goddess

The goddess got you whipped and you ain't even straight

 

[Xadlin]

Ah
So Xaldin and Catamount can flame us hard today

So it seems. I’m not gonna gloat or anything but dancing on my bones, yikes.
And here I was gonna protect Cypher if I survived the lynch.

anyway, I’ll look through and see who I feel feels scummy. Town is just killing itself. Day 3 and not a single scum dead.

 

[Hero]

The goddess got you whipped and you ain't even straight

I will jump at any opportunity to Lynch Usopp

 

[Kue]

So it seems. I’m not gonna gloat or anything but dancing on my bones, yikes.
And here I was gonna protect Cypher if I survived the lynch.

anyway, I’ll look through and see who I feel feels scummy. Town is just killing itself. Day 3 and not a single scum dead.

Saying you were indie did not help.

 

[Xadlin]

Saying you were indie did not help.

Haha no I know. But here the deal: the host told me there were no indies in the game, so took that for law. The host can’t lie, can it?
But yeah my blunder is not forgivable, so I concede.

anyway, skimming through, the most scummy vibes I get are from Usopp and Rem.

 

[Flower]

Haha no I know. But here the deal: the host told me there were no indies in the game, so took that for law. The host can’t lie, can it?
But yeah my blunder is not forgivable, so I concede.

anyway, skimming through, the most scummy vibes I get are from Usopp and Rem.

I still wonder how you know this.

Did you just ask?

 

[familyparka]

I think LM saw an opportunity to take advantage of Cypher's suspicion of Remchu and outed himself doing that.

WPK and Dunya were better lynch candidates and LM did not go for them. A scum team with LM, Dunya, WPK, and John Wayne makes sense to me.

[vote lynch LordMelkor]

I should have never messaged you

 

[Kue]

Haha no I know. But here the deal: the host told me there were no indies in the game, so took that for law. The host can’t lie, can it?
But yeah my blunder is not forgivable, so I concede.

anyway, skimming through, the most scummy vibes I get are from Usopp and Rem.

If Rem was a fake mason, wouldn't he just show up as a town role? Why go through the lengths to appear indie, especially with Remchu's character fitting the flavor exactly.

 

[Flower]

[vote lynch LordMelkor]

I should have never messaged you

Did you also message me?

 

[familyparka]

Did you also message me?

I messaged only LM on Night 1, since my ability can only target 1 person.

Also me thinking there were 2 messagers was probably wrong, since you also got a third message. That's why I was talking about it so much last Day Phase. I think whoever contacted you was possibly scum.
As you pointed out the message was chaotic, and stated not to trust the other two messagers. This implies that the person contacting you actually knew of other 2 role's abilities as well via passive or who knows. Or he just got "lucky" which is HIGHLY unlikely.

After re-reading everything we got so far I think the best lynch is probably WPK. He seems quite suspicious plus he's on the Goddess list.
Again, if there's a fake write-up, I'm quite convinced it's the Hermione one. That bit sounds quite out of place.

 

[Flower]

I messaged only LM on Night 1, since my ability can only target 1 person.

Also me thinking there were 2 messagers was probably wrong, since you also got a third message. That's why I was talking about it so much last Day Phase. I think whoever contacted you was possibly scum.
As you pointed out the message was chaotic, and stated not to trust the other two messagers. This implies that the person contacting you actually knew of other 2 role's abilities as well via passive or who knows. Or he just got "lucky" which is HIGHLY unlikely.

After re-reading everything we got so far I think the best lynch is probably WPK. He seems quite suspicious plus he's on the Goddess list.
Again, if there's a fake write-up, I'm quite convinced it's the Hermione one. That bit sounds quite out of place.

Who was the him you were referring to?

 

[familyparka]

Who was the him you were referring to?

I said this in the Round Table chat. I was referring to our Day 1 lynch. It was a way of saying "try not to get yourself killed".

 

[familyparka]

I messaged only LM on Night 1, since my ability can only target 1 person.

Also me thinking there were 2 messagers was probably wrong, since you also got a third message. That's why I was talking about it so much last Day Phase. I think whoever contacted you was possibly scum.
As you pointed out the message was chaotic, and stated not to trust the other two messagers. This implies that the person contacting you actually knew of other 2 role's abilities as well via passive or who knows. Or he just got "lucky" which is HIGHLY unlikely.

After re-reading everything we got so far I think the best lynch is probably WPK. He seems quite suspicious plus he's on the Goddess list.
Again, if there's a fake write-up, I'm quite convinced it's the Hermione one. That bit sounds quite out of place.

Almost forgot

[change vote lynch WolfPrinceKiba]

 

[Cooler]

He was just the one on people's lips at the time. You're making a very flimsy case of inconsistency here.

You're not usually one to go with the flow either. Doesn't feel flimsy to me and you're being unusually reserved and careful with your defence as well.

 

[Flower]

I said this in the Round Table chat. I was referring to our Day 1 lynch. It was a way of saying "try not to get yourself killed".

Usopp also has a messaging ability and sent Hayumi something. Do you trust him?

 

[Vivo Diez]

@Odd did you vig Kue?

 

[Vivo Diez]

@Oddjutsu

 

[Flower]

Anyway, parka is innocent according to the invest.

 

[familyparka]

Usopp also has a messaging ability and sent Hayumi something. Do you trust him?

Not really, I mean the miller claim frame 1 kinda makes sense if you're town I guess? But also not much. Like if I was miller I'd probably wait for the pressure to come my way and then would claim, and have someone lie detect me or something.
I don't know, it feels like an awkward play. It's like he's trying to remove attention from himself by drawing attention to himself lol.

I think he's a decent player, so I think he could have handled it much better.

 

[Vivo Diez]

Odd seems to have vigged AM so Cypher was prob the mafia kill. If he can confirm that he didn't vig Kue then it most likely was JW per watch results

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

You're not usually one to go with the flow either. Doesn't feel flimsy to me and you're being unusually reserved and careful with your defence as well.

Going with the flow would be to focus on the goddesses choices. Even going JW is more Going with the flow then voting LM.

You're right though, I could be voting familyparka!

 

[Vivo Diez]

2 people visited Cooler, I randomly learned of one visiting Dunya

[vote lynch Cooler]

and WPK

Interesting

 

[Flower]

Not really, I mean the miller claim frame 1 kinda makes sense if you're town I guess? But also not much. Like if I was miller I'd probably wait for the pressure to come my way and then would claim, and have someone lie detect me or something.
I don't know, it feels like an awkward play. It's like he's trying to remove attention from himself by drawing attention to himself lol.

I think he's a decent player, so I think he could have handled it much better.

I don‘t understand why he needs to claim conditional Miller in the first place when he can just choose to be innocent.

And the police chat was odd. Hayumi wanted to check LM or JW, but Usopp decided to first go for JW, then switched to you.

Rem and Dunya voted for you, too.

 

[Vivo Diez]

Cooler is alive and claims go have tracked? JW so he wasn't roleblocked either.

What did dunya do then ? Giving scum role cop vibes

 

[familyparka]

Anyway, parka is innocent according to the invest.

Does this result come from the vote they held at the Committee? The vote that, as we deduced, was basically a wagon to waste another Night Investigation on a townie?

Who were the people that first started pushing for that choice btw? Anyone in the Committee that can facilitate that info?

 

[familyparka]

I don‘t understand why he needs to claim conditional Miller in the first place when he can just choose to be innocent.

And the police chat was odd. Hayumi wanted to check LM or JW, but Usopp decided to first go for JW, then switched to you.

Rem and Dunya voted for you, too.

Dunya keeps getting scummier by the second

 

[Kue]

I would bet on parka being town this game, but I was wrong about Cata.

If anyone remembers from the round table chat, I soft cleared Oddjutsu when I thought about it, and pushed for JW, LM, and WPK.

 

[Kue]

And oddjutsu ended up being town

 

[Kue]

Oddjutsu's death might also be a medium clear for Hero

 

[Vivo Diez]

it does mean soemthing. i was roleblocked.

How were you roleblocked and visited Cooler as well?

 

[familyparka]

Oddjutsu's death might also be a medium clear for Hero

Here's the thing with Hit-Girl tho, she can't be investigated. Plus, she can't use a kill on the Night she is targetted by an investigation.

Which means Hero had no way of knowing Odd's alignment, unless he was mafia.

 

[Cooler]

How were you roleblocked and visited Cooler as well?

I think he saw two people visit me and one person visit dunya.

 

[familyparka]

How were you roleblocked and visited Cooler as well?

 

[Vivo Diez]

I think he saw two people visit me and one person visit dunya.

Oh right, the wording on sig's post wasn't super clear

 

[Flower]

LM: Received an ability based on mine and I can confirm that, at least.
Cooler: Tracked JW, he visited Kue (could be a genuine track or he‘s in cahoots with JW and playing for cred).
WPK: Keeps avoiding the JW lynch. Also soft defended him.

Sigis and Vivo are the same alignment according to LM.

 

[Cooler]

LM: Received an ability based on mine and I can confirm that, at least.
Cooler: Tracked JW, he visited Kue (could be a genuine track or he‘s in cahoots with JW and playing for cred).
WPK: Keeps avoiding the JW lynch. Also soft defended him.

Sigis and Vivo are the same alignment according to LM.

If I was visited I'm worried I was redirected or something considering I wasn't killed or roleblocked. At least of those visits was probably town unless scum went ham on me.

 

[Vivo Diez]

I'll have to catch up after work, too much mechanic talk flying about to skim through during a cig break

 

[Flower]

I think he saw two people visit me and one person visit dunya.

He claims to have seen an interaction between Dunya and another player. So either she visited them or they visited her.

 

[Xadlin]

I still wonder how you know this.

Did you just ask?

No, Host just told me:
“You know you’re not really an indie, right? Just wanted to make sure “

that’s when I knew I screwed up.
There could still be indies, but that my role was not it.

 

[John Wayne]

@John Wayne did you take any actions last night?

Yeah I visited Kue to protect him