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[Shrike]

Man, I really don't know why Usopp lied. I was willing to vote him off after Nat said that Usopp isn't the other invest. You can read those posts.

After that Oni started vouching for him. I assumed that he is town from the hints.

But what hints when there is no role that can vouch for 2 people's alignment?? That's the issue here.

 

[Lord Melkor]

anger isnt alignment indicative

So what do you think of Shrike vs Lind?

 

[Flower]

Lind, no offence, but you are way too smart and analytical not to realize that something is wrong here.

 

[Flower]

You can still be Town and Oni and Ekko just scum, too.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Coroner can only check out one role from last night though, we have two dead townies

It just seems like a weird risk play cause Lind is claiming rukia. Coroner/Hiruzen would also speak up if one of the two is sasuke / zoro. So for Linds gamble to work it would require Coroner, Hiruzen, and Zoro/Sasuke to be dead.

 

[Flower]

It just seems like a weird risk play cause Lind is claiming rukia. Coroner/Hiruzen would also speak up if one of the two is sasuke / zoro. So for Linds gamble to work it would require Coroner, Hiruzen, and Zoro/Sasuke to be dead.

Then what if Lind is Rukia and Oni and Ekko are just scum?

 

[Fujitora]

Coroner can only check out one role from last night though, we have two dead townies

One of them was lynched so scum dont know their role, so there is only one to “fake claim” if lind is scum, which he is not

 

[Natalija]

It just seems like a weird risk play cause Lind is claiming rukia. Coroner/Hiruzen would also speak up if one of the two is sasuke / zoro. So for Linds gamble to work it would require Coroner, Hiruzen, and Zoro/Sasuke to be dead.

Even if Hiruzen AND the coroner checked Ratchet, Tiff is still an unknown and scum can claim that.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Then what if Lind is Rukia and Oni and Ekko are just scum?

Possibility but I kinda think Oni and Ekko are town. I kinda got their hint

 

[Fujitora]

What if scum role copped the coroner role and killed Hiruzen btw

 

[Natalija]

One of them was lynched so scum dont know their role, so there is only one to “fake claim” if lind is scum, which he is not

Scum know the role of their kill. Therefore Lind could claim it. Whereas you are claiming nonexistent things

 

[Flower]

Possibility but I kinda think Oni and Ekko are town. I kinda got their hint

There is no role which matches the "hints", though. That is the issue here.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Even if Hiruzen AND the coroner checked Ratchet, Tiff is still an unknown and scum can claim that.

Yes but it requires NOW for mafia to kill off Hiruzen and Coroner if tiff is sasuke/zoro. I feel they wouldve spoken up by now if ratchet was checkef to be either of the two. Its why I said its a gamble

 

[Natalija]

Yes but it requires NOW for mafia to kill off Hiruzen and Coroner if tiff is sasuke/zoro. I feel they wouldve spoken up by now if ratchet was checkef to be either of the two. Its why I said its a gamble

Ya, but Lind was almost lynched and would have to claim something sooner or later

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

There is no role which matches the "hints", though. That is the issue here.

No, I kinda did since day 1. Just Onis vouch on Lind didnt make sense to me which is why I kept asking 100% so i backed off on it if hes rly so clear about Lind

 

[Fujitora]

Scum know the role of their kill. Therefore Lind could claim it. Whereas you are claiming nonexistent things

You dont know what im claiming, and i already hinted enough, Lind could be claiming Rulia from Tiffys body but thats a risky move cause the Coroner/Hiruzen could out them the next day.

Its basically the same scenario with Flowa.

 

[Flower]

Nat and me being a tag team now sure is weird.

 

[Lind]

Coroner can only check out one role from last night though, we have two dead townies

2 dead townies doesn't matter since mafia can only know the role of the player they killed. So only Tiffany's role would matter to clear both Flower and me.

Unless I'm wrong @Shizune . Do scum learn the roles of even players who are lynched?

But what hints when there is no role that can vouch for 2 people's alignment?? That's the issue here.

I know that's the issue here Shrike. At first I assumed that Usopp was scum after Nat claimed that he wasn't the second invest. Then Oni claimed that he can vouch for both Usopp and me. So then I thought that he was Inoichi and he checked Usopp's and my alignment. So Nat was probably vouching for Oni.

You can read my post where I said that this is confusing since Nat is saying Usopp isn't the second invest, and the only way Usopp is scum, is if Oni was redirected. But Oni apparently isn't Inoichi and so my assumption here is that they are masons.

So then, how can Zabuza and Haku vouch for me? I hate to admit it, but I think they made some plan in their PM about this thing, or I am completely wrong about their roles.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Ya, but Lind was almost lynched and would have to claim something sooner or later

His best bet would claim someone that had an option of a role appearing twice rather than something that can be counterclaimed tbh but it seems coroner/Hiruzen has to check tiffany to solve that case

 

[Shrike]

It just seems like a weird risk play cause Lind is claiming rukia. Coroner/Hiruzen would also speak up if one of the two is sasuke / zoro. So for Linds gamble to work it would require Coroner, Hiruzen, and Zoro/Sasuke to be dead.

Or inactive. Kabuto can find out roles from living players too. Cooler or Aizen or whoever could be one of those roles.

One of them was lynched so scum dont know their role, so there is only one to “fake claim” if lind is scum, which he is not

Again, what if Kabuto is in the game and he learned the role of the lynched person? Come on.

 

[Fujitora]

I believe last DP was town vs town being out ip for Lynches and scum was content with whatever.

Plus, one of then flips town and the other gets heat for being “saved”.

TAC/Vivo/Shrike/Kvothe were avoiding the Usopp wagon but now Shrike joined it.

It could be that Shrike now feels comfortable enough mislynhing Usopp as he has the excuse of Usopp and Me+ Lind not making sense down the line once Usopp flips town.

 

[Natalija]

You dont know what im claiming, and i already hinted enough, Lind could be claiming Rulia from Tiffys body but thats a risky move cause the Coroner/Hiruzen could out them the next day.

Its basically the same scenario with Flowa.

You are right, I have no clue what you are claiming after reading the role sheet.

 

[Natalija]

2 dead townies doesn't matter since mafia can only know the role of the player they killed. So only Tiffany's role would matter to clear both Flower and me.

That is what I am saying, only Tiffany role is the claimable one.

 

[Fujitora]

Or inactive. Kabuto can find out roles from living players too. Cooler or Aizen or whoever could be one of those roles.

Again, what if Kabuto is in the game and he learned the role of the lynched person? Come on.

Did not know such a role existed, this changes things.

If say Ratchet was Hiruzen and got lynched and they knew his role, then killing Tiffy and claiming their role could work.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

I believe last DP was town vs town being out ip for Lynches and scum was content with whatever.

Plus, one of then flips town and the other gets heat for being “saved”.

TAC/Vivo/Shrike/Kvothe were avoiding the Usopp wagon but now Shrike joined it.

It could be that Shrike now feels comfortable enough mislynhing Usopp as he has the excuse of Usopp and Me+ Lind not making sense down the line once Usopp flips town.

Why would I not avoid the wagon excuse me I didnt think Usopp was scum nor flower

 

[Natalija]

Nat and me being a tag team now sure is weird.

 

[Fujitora]

You are right, I have no clue what you are claiming after reading the role sheet.

Based on tone, do you town read me or no.

 

[Flower]

It's refreshing, honestly.

 

[Fujitora]

Why would I not avoid the wagon excuse me I didnt think Usopp was scum nor flower

Well i mean scum would know that info on Usopp being town too.

 

[Natalija]

Based on tone, do you town read me or no.

After you vouched for two people based on a non existent role? I do not town read you

 

[Fujitora]

After you vouched for two people based on a non existent role? I do not town read you

Then you are wrong.

 

[Ekkologix]

interesting now i have 9 votes

• Shrike
• Cooler
• Lord Melkor
• Sigismund
• Iwandesu
• charles101
• A I Z E N
• Flower
• Natalija

 

[Natalija]

Then you are wrong.

It is a fact, no role can confirm two townies.

 

[Flower]

The only one I trust rn is Natalija.

 

[Fujitora]

Why would I not avoid the wagon excuse me I didnt think Usopp was scum nor flower

Hiw do you feel about the parts not taling about you in my post.

 

[Shrike]

2 dead townies doesn't matter since mafia can only know the role of the player they killed. So only Tiffany's role would matter to clear both Flower and me.

Unless I'm wrong @Shizune . Do scum learn the roles of even players who are lynched?


I know that's the issue here Shrike. At first I assumed that Usopp was scum after Nat claimed that he wasn't the second invest. Then Oni claimed that he can vouch for both Usopp and me. So then I thought that he was Inoichi and he checked Usopp's and my alignment. So Nat was probably vouching for Oni.

You can read my post where I said that this is confusing since Nat is saying Usopp isn't the second invest, and the only way Usopp is scum, is if Oni was redirected. But Oni apparently isn't Inoichi and so my assumption here is that they are masons.

So then, how can Zabuza and Haku vouch for me? I hate to admit it, but I think they made some plan in their PM about this thing, or I am completely wrong about their roles.

Yeah okay, but that thing you last said just sounds too convenient man, think about it from our perspective. You just so readily jumped into that "town pool" as if you're trying to clear yourself so quickly and continue throwing sus elsewhere. I don't know what to think...

 

[Fujitora]

It is a fact, no role can confirm two townies.

You dont know what i actually did and i feel i claimed enough.

 

[Natalija]

You dont know what i actually did and i feel i claimed enough.

you do not know what to fake claim.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Or inactive. Kabuto can find out roles from living players too. Cooler or Aizen or whoever could be one of those roles.

Again, what if Kabuto is in the game and he learned the role of the lynched person? Come on.

You have a point about Kabuto

 

[Shrike]

Did not know such a role existed, this changes things.

If say Ratchet was Hiruzen and got lynched and they knew his role, then killing Tiffy and claiming their role could work.

Exactly, that's what I've been trying to say.

 

[Ekkologix]

His best bet would claim someone that had an option of a role appearing twice rather than something that can be counterclaimed tbh but it seems coroner/Hiruzen has to check tiffany to solve that case

coroner is dead
protagonist is dead

hiruzen likely does not use coroner ability on n1

and scum knows who hiruzen is via rolecop so they will just kill him tonight

 

[Ekkologix]

why the fk wud hiruzen use coroner ability n1

hes limited to 1 ability

the other 2 r better (atleast n1)

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Hiw do you feel about the parts not taling about you in my post.

tbh i feel like we're all going in circles while scum is laying low

 

[Flower]

tbh i feel like we're all going in circles while scum is laying low

Or we have outed scum here and they're just making excuses now.

 

[Ekkologix]

tbh i feel like we're all going in circles while scum is laying low

no scum is shrike
u and flower helping him looks bad on u

TAC/ A I Z E N laying low is bad

 

[Fujitora]

tbh i feel like we're all going in circles while scum is laying low

Usopp is at 9 votes rn, there is no way all his voters are town.

And so who out of the inactives are yeetable? Im down for TAC, do you town read Shrike?

 

[Flower]

"Talk long enough and you can talk yourself out of any lynch".

~ Vivo Diez, Favourites, 2021.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

im not gonna even reply to usopps dumb tinfoil

 

[Fujitora]

Or we have outed scum here and they're just making excuses now.

Or you’re just dumb.

 

[Lind]

Why is @A I Z E N only voting and not talking. Come on bro.

Yeah okay, but that thing you last said just sounds too convenient man, think about it from our perspective. You just so readily jumped into that "town pool" as if you're trying to clear yourself so quickly and continue throwing sus elsewhere. I don't know what to think...

I did not throw my self into a town pool other than my own. I simply listed the players I trust at the moment. I don't deny the fact that you can suspect me, but I'm basing the fact on it being possibilities and not evidence as such.

Not to mention the fact that I can easily prove myself again tomorrow. I have results to back my claim up.

That is what I am saying, only Tiffany role is the claimable one.

If the town coroner was neither Ratchet or Tiffany, they should know Ratchet's role by now. They will know Tiffany's role by tomorrow and I will have another claim tomorrow again since my role gives results. It can be proven.

 

[Flower]

Or you’re just dumb.

Nice going there.

 

[Ekkologix]

im not gonna even reply to usopps dumb tinfoil

sure can we go to shrike then?

 

[Natalija]

If the town coroner was neither Ratchet or Tiffany, they should know Ratchet's role by now. They will know Tiffany's role by tomorrow and I will have another claim tomorrow again since my role gives results. It can be proven.

Sure thing. Which is why Susopp or Oni would be a priority lynch over you if nothing else.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Usopp is at 9 votes rn, there is no way all his voters are town.

And so who out of the inactives are yeetable? Im down for TAC, do you town read Shrike?

I already mentioned Cooler and TAC but I would yeet TAC more than the others

No I don't town read Shrike

Mafia is looking to aim to kill Coroner or Hiruzen and Usopp is trying to bait them out. He needs to stop

 

[Fujitora]

Why is @A I Z E N only voting and not talking. Come on bro.


I did not throw my self into a town pool other than my own. I simply listed the players I trust at the moment. I don't deny the fact that you can suspect me, but I'm basing the fact on it being possibilities and not evidence as such.

Not to mention the fact that I can easily prove myself again tomorrow. I have results to back my claim up.


If the town coroner was neither Ratchet or Tiffany, they should know Ratchet's role by now. They will know Tiffany's role by tomorrow and I will have another claim tomorrow again since my role gives results. It can be proven.

He’s also liking my posts.

 

[Flower]

It's not my fault you and Ekko say things which don't add up, Oni. That's on you. Play better If you're scum or actually act like Town if you're Town and don't make things up.

 

[Fujitora]

Save me pls

 

[Fujitora]

It's not my fault you and Ekko say things which don't add up, Oni. That's on you. Play better If you're scum or actually act like Town if you're Town and don't make things up.

I don’t need advice from you.

 

[Vivo Diez]

p30

There you go again with your made up town pool that only you yourself are agreeing with.

Man this is your classic scum move, just causing chaos.

This sounds like a pretty fabricated response ngl

 

[MUUGEN]

Honestly reading the first few pages of the 2nd start to this cycle is just a fucking headache can we please get one game where flower isn't fucking crying and bitching about having sus on her.

I'm like a whole 10 pages behind and dont even want to continue reading this bullshit. You guys make the game unenjoyable sometimes.'

TL;DR would be cool on this cycle if there is anything else going on aside from Usopp and Flower nonsense cause im hoenstly just annoyed reading 4 pages.

Kvothe/Nat/Shrike I smell foul magic amongst these 3.

which one is the strongest scum read and why?

missed like 90% of last phase

Anyway, I'm Naruto (again). Whoever pushes me today is scum confirmed.

oh shaat up.

learn how to play town without insta claiming.

@Lord Melkor this is why cypher is my policy lynch.

Flower’s play has honestly been really bad in that it doesn’t scream town at all, but why tf would she claim a key character that has to be in the game. If she doesn’t get counter claimed I have no choice but to believe her.

could be a ploy to bait out the real protagonist.

@TheAncientCenturion @A I Z E N do u guys have a say on whats going on rn?

yes i do.

both you and flower should just retire at this point you're both betatier and detrimental to town overall. regardless if you're both town im up to just lynching one or the other regardless of your claims.

A Town protagonist is guaranteed and there is only one. So yes, I am confirmed. Why else do you think I was pissed about not being able to claim last day phase?

you're pissed regardless of the situation you do realize you're in the same scenario every game for the past 2/3 years. YOU are the PROBLEM.

 

[Shrike]

no scum is shrike
u and flower helping him looks bad on u

TAC/ A I Z E N laying low is bad

So let's say for a moment that you're right and that I am scum.

What have you done for town to help them get me?

You fake claimed an invest role to... do what, push Flower who might or might not fake claimed?

You caused a ton of confusion and antagonized half the thread here (well, more than half but whatever).

You mudded the read pool by causing chaos so much that it's pretty hard to get actual reads.

And finally, you made many town players out themselves AND gave the scum the opportunity to fake claim under the guise of 'protecting you or someone else'.

Man.

Great town work.

 

[MUUGEN]

From what I've read so far Hayumi & Onii are my 2 town reads coming into this phase.

RIP @Tiffany i literally had a quoted text from you where I was going to tell you you were one of my fav new peeps to play with but phase had ended /:

 

[MUUGEN]

Is @A I Z E N on the game ?
Or do i still have him on ignore

lol just distracted with irl shizz atm but im here just didnt really contribute last cycle.

 

[Vivo Diez]

So mafia can claim their victim's role anytime.

That sure makes Flowers claim that nobody asked for all the more convienent

 

[Natalija]

From what I've read so far Hayumi & Onii are my 2 town reads coming into this phase.

RIP @Tiffany i literally had a quoted text from you where I was going to tell you you were one of my fav new peeps to play with but phase had ended /:

That sure makes Flowers claim that nobody asked for all the more convienent

I need you both to keep reading

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

vivo pls theres a limit of iwan posting i can take

 

[Vivo Diez]

There's also the possibility both Usopp and Flower are scum

Galaxy brain JW

 

[Vivo Diez]

p31

@Lind isnt adressing much of the weirdness that happened with the lynch hmm

 

[MUUGEN]

I need you both to keep reading

my head hurts & I've only been reading for 30ish mins.

Shrike's latest post is pretty informative.

So let's just lynch Usopp and get him out cause like i said he's betatier and is detrimental as town if hes town and if scum well good riddance. it's a win/win for town tbh

 

[MUUGEN]

p31

@Lind isnt adressing much of the weirdness that happened with the lynch hmm

nothing really weird tbh ratchet just auto self voted cause no vote casted.

 

[Flower]

Honestly reading the first few pages of the 2nd start to this cycle is just a fucking headache can we please get one game where flower isn't fucking crying and bitching about having sus on her.

I'm like a whole 10 pages behind and dont even want to continue reading this bullshit. You guys make the game unenjoyable sometimes.'

TL;DR would be cool on this cycle if there is anything else going on aside from Usopp and Flower nonsense cause im hoenstly just annoyed reading 4 pages.


which one is the strongest scum read and why?

missed like 90% of last phase

oh shaat up.

learn how to play town without insta claiming.

@Lord Melkor this is why cypher is my policy lynch.

could be a ploy to bait out the real protagonist.

yes i do.

both you and flower should just retire at this point you're both betatier and detrimental to town overall. regardless if you're both town im up to just lynching one or the other regardless of your claims.

you're pissed regardless of the situation you do realize you're in the same scenario every game for the past 2/3 years. YOU are the PROBLEM.

Yeah. Good Bye. Might actually be better to retire and not be called dumb for trying to game solve or putting effort into a game. Totally dumb to read roles and call people out for flawed claims, right? Totally dumb trying to actually play the game and wanting Town players not to lie, right?


But sure, I am the problem. Not the many players pushing me every game and getting my reads and game messed up because of that. Blame the victim. Nice policy of you.

 

[Ekkologix]

I don’t need advice from you.

based

 

[Ekkologix]

p30


This sounds like a pretty fabricated response ngl

fax, tell em vivo

 

[Ekkologix]

Honestly reading the first few pages of the 2nd start to this cycle is just a fucking headache can we please get one game where flower isn't fucking crying and bitching about having sus on her.

I'm like a whole 10 pages behind and dont even want to continue reading this bullshit. You guys make the game unenjoyable sometimes.'

TL;DR would be cool on this cycle if there is anything else going on aside from Usopp and Flower nonsense cause im hoenstly just annoyed reading 4 pages.


which one is the strongest scum read and why?

missed like 90% of last phase

oh shaat up.

learn how to play town without insta claiming.

@Lord Melkor this is why cypher is my policy lynch.

could be a ploy to bait out the real protagonist.

yes i do.

both you and flower should just retire at this point you're both betatier and detrimental to town overall. regardless if you're both town im up to just lynching one or the other regardless of your claims.

you're pissed regardless of the situation you do realize you're in the same scenario every game for the past 2/3 years. YOU are the PROBLEM.

ur a keklord

 

[Flower]

I'm subbing out. This game isn't good for my sanity.

 

[Ekkologix]

So let's say for a moment that you're right and that I am scum.

What have you done for town to help them get me?

You fake claimed an invest role to... do what, push Flower who might or might not fake claimed?

You caused a ton of confusion and antagonized half the thread here (well, more than half but whatever).

You mudded the read pool by causing chaos so much that it's pretty hard to get actual reads.

And finally, you made many town players out themselves AND gave the scum the opportunity to fake claim under the guise of 'protecting you or someone else'.

Man.

Great town work.

 

[Ekkologix]

I'm subbing out. This game isn't good for my sanity.

i would sub out too if i getting rekt this hard day 2

 

[John Wayne]

It was me Barry

 

[Ekkologix]

my head hurts & I've only been reading for 30ish mins.

Shrike's latest post is pretty informative.

So let's just lynch Usopp and get him out cause like i said he's betatier and is detrimental as town if hes town and if scum well good riddance. it's a win/win for town tbh

you cant be more scummy, oh god

is the entire team throwing to save shrike now lol

 

[Fujitora]

Yeah. Good Bye. Might actually be better to retire and not be called dumb for trying to game solve or putting effort into a game. Totally dumb to read roles and call people out for flawed claims, right? Totally dumb trying to actually play the game and wanting Town players not to lie, right?


But sure, I am the problem. Not the many players pushing me every game and getting my reads and game messed up because of that. Blame the victim. Nice policy of you.

Im sorry i called you dumb, don’t leave. And have fun with us aight?