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Scum
Waffles
Lewd
Kira
Ratchet
Cooler This game is pretty quiet and you really see the same faces mostly playing it. Most of these are simply coming in and answering suspicion, dropping things here or there or just aren't at all.

They're feigning and acting like they're attempting to help solve the game,when in reality they want it in the state where in now. We don't know much, nor do we have much to work off of honestly except a potential scum lynch. Underworld interactions are limited so you'd have to seriously sit and look at post to see if there's any connections.
 
Chaos said:
Are you seriously complaining I'm getting off your case?

Don't worry, I still want to lynch you. I also want to lynch UB though and that one seems to have a lot more traction. I gain from participating in successful lynches on scum/indie targets, so I have zero reason to stick with a lynch that isn't happening.
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I'm complaining that your quick backing off and then jumping onto the biggest wagon doesn't appear very town to me - especially two days in a row.

Of course on a different level I'm happy that I'm not getting lynched today - so far.
 
Ishmael said:
Scum
Waffles
Lewd
Kira
Ratchet
Cooler This game is pretty quiet and you really see the same faces mostly playing it. Most of these are simply coming in and answering suspicion, dropping things here or there or just aren't at all.

They're feigning and acting like they're attempting to help solve the game,when in reality they want it in the state where in now. We don't know much, nor do we have much to work off of honestly except a potential scum lynch. Underworld interactions are limited so you'd have to seriously sit and look at post to see if there's any connections.
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Sad times with all you guys misreading me.

I'm town.

Who are your town reads?
 
Ishmael said:
Ratchet
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Ishmael said:
They're feigning and acting like they're attempting to help solve the game,when in reality they want it in the state where in now. We don't know much, nor do we have much to work off of honestly except a potential scum lynch. Underworld interactions are limited so you'd have to seriously sit and look at post to see if there's any connections.
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I disagree quite strongly with this assessment of how I've played thus far. In fact, I don't see how it even remotely applies to me, and yes I appreciate the irony of me appearing after 24 hours only to comment on this first, but w/e.

@Remchu I am Town. (don't believe I've said it before now)

[Vote Lynch Chaos]

I'm happy to lynch Broki too because the odds are strong enough in favor of her being scum, but if I've read remchu's post correctly his next test on her will be 100%, and we'll be getting that result regardless of whether he dies or not, so I don't see the reason in voting broki now when we can get confirmation tomorrow. Chaos I feel has been poor in his engagements with others and I don't believe he has adequately addressed why he demanded a full claim from Franky there.
 
Ratchet said:
I disagree quite strongly with this assessment of how I've played thus far. In fact, I don't see how it even remotely applies to me, and yes I appreciate the irony of me appearing after 24 hours only to comment on this first, but w/e.

@Remchu I am Town. (don't believe I've said it before now)

[Vote Lynch Chaos]

I'm happy to lynch Broki too because the odds are strong enough in favor of her being scum, but if I've read remchu's post correctly his next test on her will be 100%, and we'll be getting that result regardless of whether he dies or not, so I don't see the reason in voting broki now when we can get confirmation tomorrow. Chaos I feel has been poor in his engagements with others and I don't believe he has adequately addressed why he demanded a full claim from Franky there.
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Because a flavor claim only gave us absolutely nothing at all

How dense are you really
 
Chaos said:
Because a flavor claim only gave us absolutely nothing at all

How dense are you really
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I've already gone over why there wasn't a pressing reason to claim in the first place. A flavour claim gave something, and your reaction afterwards felt more like you were just satisfied you got the full claim than you using it to draw any conclusions about alignment, outside of the throwaway "feels genuine" remark. I said all this during my first post, day 1.
 
Ratchet said:
I've already gone over why there wasn't a pressing reason to claim in the first place. A flavour claim gave something, and your reaction afterwards felt more like you were just satisfied you got the full claim than you using it to draw any conclusions about alignment, outside of the throwaway "feels genuine" remark. I said all this during my first post, day 1.
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And I already said that the ability Franky detailed sounded silly as a scum ability since they can coordinate a team full of actions, which made me reconsider his alignment.

Which apparently wasn't enough for you, since you still voted for him afterwards (but of course not without saying you'd rather lynch Odd, who is very fucking obviously town) so not sure why you're arguing that flavor was enough now.

I don't know what game you're playing, but when I suspect someone, I push them for information until they've given enough that I don't consider them the number one scum read anymore. Franky buckled under the pressure and the information he gave was indicative of him being town.

So yea, it felt genuine, the logic checked out, the ability he claimed was not a scum one. It's not like I pushed him to reveal the extent of his other ability. And please don't get started on the 'potentially strong town role'. This is a role madness game. Every single role is a 'potentially strong town role'. Are you saying we just shouldn't ask for more because oh dear it might give mafia information?
 
For lie detectors sake,Im an indie.

Ishmael said:
Don't like how Kira just fell off after the pou lynch and the whole 3 indies claim business.
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Ishmael said:
Scum
Waffles
Lewd
Kira
Ratchet
Cooler This game is pretty quiet and you really see the same faces mostly playing it. Most of these are simply coming in and answering suspicion, dropping things here or there or just aren't at all.

They're feigning and acting like they're attempting to help solve the game,when in reality they want it in the state where in now. We don't know much, nor do we have much to work off of honestly except a potential scum lynch. Underworld interactions are limited so you'd have to seriously sit and look at post to see if there's any connections.
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I have been very busy these past 2 days so excuse my inactivity for this day phase but saying i am scum because i havent been active this dp is reaching quite hard especially after ive already claimed im protown indie and my wincon
Do you not believe me?
 
Chaos said:
Which apparently wasn't enough for you,
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Not "apparently". It wasn't enough. I feel like I've been clear enough here, so I don't see the need for ambiguity.
Chaos said:
since you still voted for him afterwards (but of course not without saying you'd rather lynch Odd, who is very fucking obviously town) so not sure why you're arguing that flavor was enough now.
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Are we revising history now? Do you recall exactly what I said then? I didn't want Melodie lynched, I felt like the suspicion on her was based on a somewhat shaky premise, even though I acknowledged it wasn't in her favour much, and then I said because Franky wasthe next in the lead I'd vote for him. The vote for Franky was very explicitly more to do with removing the lynch from melodie moreso than it was to do with Franky's behaviour. I also noted it was probably redundant, given Odd's claimed ability.
Chaos said:
I don't know what game you're playing, but when I suspect someone, I push them for information until they've given enough that I don't consider them the number one scum read anymore. Franky buckled under the pressure and the information he gave was indicative of him being town.
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The game I'm playing requires scum to lie, so I'm don't believe the reversal was all that warranted. Plus, and it's hilarious for me to say this given I'm something of a proponant for claiming games, there are more ways to get information from someone than a claim.
Chaos said:
So yea, it felt genuine, the logic checked out, the ability he claimed was not a scum one. It's not like I pushed him to reveal the extent of his other ability. And please don't get started on the 'potentially strong town role'. This is a role madness game. Every single role is a 'potentially strong town role'. Are you saying we just shouldn't ask for more because oh dear it might give mafia information?
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No, I'm saying that the level of suspicion on him at that point did not justify a claim from him, and your forcefullness in pursuing a claim went OTT. The fact you then played down your suspicion and have effectively dropped it entirely at this point on the basis of the claim for what was rather flimsy reasoning suggests to me that you're scum and saw a chance to get a claim with relatively little blowback on yourself for it. Again, have I not been clear enough on this point? I really thought I was quite explicit.
 
Alright, this is what I have so far:
I found myself agreeing with most of Ish and Ratchet's posts. Town read on them.
Kira is a prime candidate for begin Lulu, don't sleep on his claims.
This may be the first time I've seen Town Okosan. I thought that didn't exist :maybe Unless you are Lulu and you are playing us all :blobcry
I had an initial scum read on Chaos but then he went ham on Cooler, pointing out all the things wrong with him that I agree on. Could go either way.
The biggest problem with UB's ability claim is this: She needs blood to use skills. She gets blood by being in the wagon on the person lynched. Why didn't she vote for Melodie? Seems pretty counter intuitive.
[Vote lynch UB]
 
Ratchet said:
Not "apparently". It wasn't enough. I feel like I've been clear enough here, so I don't see the need for ambiguity.

Are we revising history now? Do you recall exactly what I said then? I didn't want Melodie lynched, I felt like the suspicion on her was based on a somewhat shaky premise, even though I acknowledged it wasn't in her favour much, and then I said because Franky wasthe next in the lead I'd vote for him. The vote for Franky was very explicitly more to do with removing the lynch from melodie moreso than it was to do with Franky's behaviour. I also noted it was probably redundant, given Odd's claimed ability.

The game I'm playing requires scum to lie, so I'm don't believe the reversal was all that warranted. Plus, and it's hilarious for me to say this given I'm something of a proponant for claiming games, there are more ways to get information from someone than a claim.

No, I'm saying that the level of suspicion on him at that point did not justify a claim from him, and your forcefullness in pursuing a claim went OTT. The fact you then played down your suspicion and have effectively dropped it entirely at this point on the basis of the claim for what was rather flimsy reasoning suggests to me that you're scum and saw a chance to get a claim with relatively little blowback on yourself for it. Again, have I not been clear enough on this point? I really thought I was quite explicit.
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Yes, you keep repeating yourself. I do not intend to do so. I don't agree with your reasoning, but it seems laying out my thoughts does absolutely nothing for you, so whatever.

I am town and I have done ten times the work you have this game. I think Franky is more likely town than most of the other players for the reasons I've given multiple times. You want to keep harping on about a day one play you don't agree with, be my guest, but don't expect me to keep taking you seriously.

I hope you feel stupid when I flip, but I don't intend to for a long time.
 
Degaforce said:
Alright, this is what I have so far:
I found myself agreeing with most of Ish and Ratchet's posts. Town read on them.
Kira is a prime candidate for begin Lulu, don't sleep on his claims.
This may be the first time I've seen Town Okosan. I thought that didn't exist :maybe Unless you are Lulu and you are playing us all :blobcry
I had an initial scum read on Chaos but then he went ham on Cooler, pointing out all the things wrong with him that I agree on. Could go either way.
The biggest problem with UB's ability claim is this: She needs blood to use skills. She gets blood by being in the wagon on the person lynched. Why didn't she vote for Melodie? Seems pretty counter intuitive.
[Vote lynch UB]
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Good point.
 
Degaforce said:
Alright, this is what I have so far:
I found myself agreeing with most of Ish and Ratchet's posts. Town read on them.
Kira is a prime candidate for begin Lulu, don't sleep on his claims.
This may be the first time I've seen Town Okosan. I thought that didn't exist :maybe Unless you are Lulu and you are playing us all :blobcry
I had an initial scum read on Chaos but then he went ham on Cooler, pointing out all the things wrong with him that I agree on. Could go either way.
The biggest problem with UB's ability claim is this: She needs blood to use skills. She gets blood by being in the wagon on the person lynched. Why didn't she vote for Melodie? Seems pretty counter intuitive.
[Vote lynch UB]
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COOO! (Well to be fair, and Okosan is not trying to defend UB in the slightest, it does seem hard to do according to what they said. Like he thinks UB has to be the first or last vote? And if they aren't around that can be difficult.)

Coo! (Regardless Okosan is almost sure UB is scum and that set of abilities is why. But if Okosan had that role and was town with it that would be his big issue.)
 
Coooooo! (Also Okosan is honestly unsure who to change his vote to, though it would be nice if Degaforce could say more in the future. He's mostly come around on the whole, "Let's not lynch UB until tomorrow just to see the spy results," but Okosan also doesn't really want to vote for Cooler considering UB did as well :hm)

COO! (And like, voting for one of his inactive scum reads is not going to go anywhere this late in the phase. So it would effectively be no voting and just giving mafia more of a say in this.)
 
Cooler said:
Why do you suspect me?
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Cooooooo! (Well Okosan will be honest it's not the strongest read that he has right now. But out of the people who seem to be voted for at the moment (going by the vote count and a brief glance over the later votes) you're the one that Okosan wants to go for. UB we can probably just get tomorrow after we get the 100% lie detect off, and Okosan doesn't necessarily agree with Odd being scum. If he is actually a vote stacker then he can't really see that being a scum role. Not unless it's like am x-shot ability of some kind. So that only really leaves you.)

COOO?? (Now for he actual reasons you in particular, One he doesn't really like kind of the same things that have been said by others. He's not a fan of how you didn't like Remchu's ability description and all, and then 10 minutes later you changed your mind. Plus setting it up for the possibility of UB being town (Though Okosan thinks UB isn't so this point in particular is a little iffy).)

Coo Cooo! (But honestly he would much rather be voting for someone like LG, Shiny, or any other of those people with lower post counts.)
 
Okosan said:
Cooooooo! (Well Okosan will be honest it's not the strongest read that he has right now. But out of the people who seem to be voted for at the moment (going by the vote count and a brief glance over the later votes) you're the one that Okosan wants to go for. UB we can probably just get tomorrow after we get the 100% lie detect off, and Okosan doesn't necessarily agree with Odd being scum. If he is actually a vote stacker then he can't really see that being a scum role. Not unless it's like am x-shot ability of some kind. So that only really leaves you.)

COOO?? (Now for he actual reasons you in particular, One he doesn't really like kind of the same things that have been said by others. He's not a fan of how you didn't like Remchu's ability description and all, and then 10 minutes later you changed your mind. Plus setting it up for the possibility of UB being town (Though Okosan thinks UB isn't so this point in particular is a little iffy).)

Coo Cooo! (But honestly he would much rather be voting for someone like LG, Shiny, or any other of those people with lower post counts.)
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Where did I change my mind about Remchu's ability? As town I think it's important to raise concerns about various descriptions of abilities, that I still considered UB the best lead isn't me changing my mind...
 
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