Game League of Legends 3 (town+indie win!)

[Lord Genome]

o

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

how certain is certain

very certain like no chance he's scum certain

 

[Ishmael]

how do you know it was a roleblocker

How else would I know? I’m
Trying to not to say to much that’ll get me mid blocked, killed or whatever but it’s due to the only way I should or would know how.

i dont actually think sin is lynchproof, especially if samuel is also lynch proof(taking face value comments here)

Why do you think I was coaxing okosan and others to lynch me. I’m tied to him it would’ve simply resulted in him taking my place. I can only be killed.

also i think our vigs are dead

my guess is no sk or the sk is dead(one kill last night)

False as well. We only lost a watcher and roleblocker.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

oh welcome back ddl. although I was hoping it was a cooler revive so we can ask him if he used his ability on anyone

 

[Ishmael]

I’m something of a overseer

 

[Oddjutsu]

That should have been Cooler but ok let's see what info DDL has

 

[Hidden]

Coo!! (Yeah wait a minute who's deciding to revive DDL here and not Cooler?)

 

[Ishmael]

@Dragon D. Luffy what I’m saying is truth correct?

 

[Ishmael]

[vote lynch Mystic serenade] let’s get something out of him.

 

[Melodie]

yes
ive literally been unlynchable and unkillable myself as mafia in a role made by the host in one of his games so i know it’s not outside his power scaling

Yuumi is the literal definition of co-dependence so 0.0000000000% she is anything but mafia scum

me e. me alt tab

will @Melodie show up

sup

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

are you scum melodie

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

yeah thats why i was thinking idk. Only because ddls suspects were mexikorn and nessos i think.

Eh what no. I was just speculating Nessos MIGHT be scum cuz you people were clearing him and Mexi too fast imo.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Ok so apparently I'm a treestump (can't vote/use abilities) now so might as well dump my role.

I'm Sonna and I'm a roleblocker/doctor. Either one or the other each night. I also have a one-shot that lets me hit three targets at once. But on the flipside, I have some fancy restrictions on how I choose my targets, needing to use an ability to mark the last 3 players who posted during the day phase and being restricted to one of those 3 at night (or all 3 if I use the 1-shot).

Dunno how Samael learned that and I'm not sure if that's any confirmation of town for him. He could be a mafia role cop for all I know.

Night 1 I protected Sin. Night 2 I protected WPK, Kvothe and LG.

Also Night 1 somebody used their ability to give me a second shot of the triple thing. If they claim their character I'll be able to confirm it.

I'm not a cop or anything of that fashion so I don't have any info besides what is in this post.

 

[Nessos]

I’m something of a overseer

So you guesses RB cause your target didn't visit anyone while being visited by DDL?

What if your target doesn't even have a ability to visit someone?

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Since it doesn't matter anymore to hide it as mafia killed him anyway, DDL can reveal he received a buff from me. Said buff is why I doubted Okosan's survivor thing as it applies to any of the three I picked.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Since it doesn't matter anymore to hide it as mafia killed him anyway, DDL can reveal he received a buff from me. Said buff is why I doubted Okosan's survivor thing as it applies to any of the three I picked.

Yeah I guess this works, not sure if claiming the character is needed unless someone counterclaims.

 

[Nessos]

[Vote lynch Samael]

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Yeah I guess this works, not sure if claiming the character is needed unless someone counterclaims.

My buff should have happened d2 though since that is when I chose you. I guess for the purposes of when you had been told, you thought it was n1 when it was really early d2.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Also since I don't have any way to influence the game besides posting I'm hereby excusing myself from reading every post of the thread.

See you next... huh... whenever I feel like!

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

My buff should have happened d2 though since that is when I chose you. I guess for the purposes of when you had been told, you thought it was n1 when it was really early d2.

Yeah I got the message very early on d2 so coulodn't know if it was n1 or d2.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Eh what no. I was just speculating Nessos MIGHT be scum cuz you people were clearing him and Mexi too fast imo.

o ok i havent had a chance to actually fully go through your posts did you have any other suspects btw?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Yeah if Samael passively learns who targeted him that's now how he got my role since I never targeted him (unless redirections happened).

And if it's a role cop... it could be a town role, but that's usually mafia.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Also I'm thinking Okosan is a legit SK at this poimt because there was another kill n1 that targeted me, and potentially another last night that could have been blocked by DDL.

[Vote Lynch Okosan]

Once Sin hinted at being Yuumi we should have more properly set up our lynch votes, wasn't thinking of that then. So I suggest we put SinRaven in the lead again with Okosan behind them for testing purposes. 2-3 vote distance between them to account for any double voters or other vote fuckery.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

o ok i havent had a chance to actually fully go through your posts did you have any other suspects btw?

I think we ought to make SIn explain what the hell his wincon is and if he doesn't we should think on how to make him die.

And if Sin somehow gives a credible explanation Okosan can be looked at.

Otherwise... a bunch of people can be lynched. Mexi, Samael, Melodie and Mystic are some that come to mind.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Also I'm thinking Okosan is a legit SK at this poimt because there was another kill n1 that targeted me, and potentially another last night that could have been blocked by DDL.

[Vote Lynch Okosan]

Once Sin hinted at being Yuumi we should have more properly set up our lynch votes, wasn't thinking of that then. So I suggest we put SinRaven in the lead again with Okosan behind them for testing purposes. 2-3 vote distance between them to account for any double voters or other vote fuckery.

I never blocked anyone.

 

[Lord Genome]

 

[Ishmael]

So you guesses RB cause your target didn't visit anyone while being visited by DDL?

What if your target doesn't even have a ability to visit someone?

no like once we lost those town members I’m told of it and what exactly is lost. I’m a overseer of those that I’m aligned with.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

no like once we lost those town members I’m told of it and what exactly is lost. I’m a overseer of those that I’m aligned with.

That is belieavable tbh.

 

[Lord Genome]

Also I'm thinking Okosan is a legit SK at this poimt because there was another kill n1 that targeted me, and potentially another last night that could have been blocked by DDL.

[Vote Lynch Okosan]

Once Sin hinted at being Yuumi we should have more properly set up our lynch votes, wasn't thinking of that then. So I suggest we put SinRaven in the lead again with Okosan behind them for testing purposes. 2-3 vote distance between them to account for any double voters or other vote fuckery.

i can agree with this. if okosan is the sk then id prefer getting rid of him instead of sin either way to lower the kill count i think

 

[Hidden]

Since it doesn't matter anymore to hide it as mafia killed him anyway, DDL can reveal he received a buff from me. Said buff is why I doubted Okosan's survivor thing as it applies to any of the three I picked.

Cooooooo! (Lmao what indy role works better in your mind then? Also Okosan can definitely see a use for being able to give buffs as a survivor. Specifically that being you can only buff the people that trust you, and ignore anyone who seems like they might lynch/kill you)

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

I never blocked anyone.

By blocked I meant you stopped the kill with your doctor protect.

 

[Hidden]

Cooo! (Like the only other third party Okosan can think of that would make sense is like... cult? Anything else seems like your ability would be worthless unless Okosan is misunderstanding your ability)

 

[Nessos]

no like once we lost those town members I’m told of it and what exactly is lost. I’m a overseer of those that I’m aligned with.

Mixed up overseer with motion detector.
But shouldn't you also be notified that DDL was also protect?!?

 

[Oddjutsu]

Mixed up overseer with motion detector.
But shouldn't you also be notified that DDL was also protect?!?

DDL said he didn't roleblock anyone, Samael can't have motion detected a roleblock

 

[Nessos]

DDL said he didn't roleblock anyone, Samael can't have motion detected a roleblock

Thought Overseer like Watcher+Tracker similiar to Jailkeeper being Roleblock + Protect.

 

[Oddjutsu]

Thought Overseer like Watcher+Tracker similiar to Jailkeeper being Roleblock + Protect.

Maybe overseer is a league of legends thing

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

yes
ive literally been unlynchable and unkillable myself as mafia in a role made by the host in one of his games so i know it’s not outside his power scaling

Yuumi is the literal definition of co-dependence so 0.0000000000% she is anything but mafia scum

to clarify here im saying that yuumi is for sure a scum role since i think ppl confused that

 

[Melodie]

are you scum melodie

I wish.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Cooooooo! (Lmao what indy role works better in your mind then? Also Okosan can definitely see a use for being able to give buffs as a survivor. Specifically that being you can only buff the people that trust you, and ignore anyone who seems like they might lynch/kill you)

I gave a one-time buff to DDL's role, which in his case translated to getting an extra shot of a one-shot. My chosen doesn't get buffs to give from my action, I can only enhance any they might already have.

I guess if I did adopt your wincon of survive then buffing whatever survivability you have is worthwhile but I have my doubts a survivor is what's intended. Also doesn't explain where the kill on me came from.

 

[Lord Melkor]

That would be a waste of the ability, both because I'd dodge it and because I'm not a threat to town anyways.

But go ahead

Hello there, so you claim Indie?

 

[Melodie]

[Vote Lynch SinRaven]

I like the Sinraven/Okosan cushion thing.

 

[Lord Melkor]

I did not have any info to share yesterday.

Did it change?

[Vote Lynch SinRaven]

Okay, I will propably try to use this multiquote thing now.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

[Vote Lynch Okosan]

 

[Hidden]

I gave a one-time buff to DDL's role, which in his case translated to getting an extra shot of a one-shot. My chosen doesn't get buffs to give from my action, I can only enhance any they might already have.

I guess if I did adopt your wincon of survive then buffing whatever survivability you have is worthwhile but I have my doubts a survivor is what's intended. Also doesn't explain where the kill on me came from.

Coooo! (Oh wait the person you chose got a buff? Yeah that's interesting. But legit the only indy that works well for that is cult and some role where Okosan has to kill X specific people. Anything else isn't super conducive to that unless Okosan isn't thinking of something. Especially sk like you're suggesting since all you'd be doing is improving the chance Okosan kills you in the future)

COOOOO! (Survivor is maybe the least offensive option that isn't those listed above since it doesn't affect you in a negative way besides probably making it so Okosan lives easier)

 

[Hidden]

Coo? (And actually with a second survivor alive it makes end game approach faster since we could technically both win with mafia if it came to that)

 

[Hidden]

Coooo! (.....Plus Okosan knows his name is going to be a lynch option literally every day once he claims)

Cooooooo! (Oh look at who called it)

 

[Hidden]

Hello there, so you claim Indie?

COOO! (Imagine even entertaining the idea that Sin is indie when, from their perspective, Okosan should've been outed mafia yesterday from WPK's ability. And then Sin went on to vote Ratchet instead)

 

[Lord Melkor]

1. WolfPrinceKouga
2. Nessos
3. SinRaven
4. Go D. Usopp
5. Oddjutsu
7. Okosan
8. Melodie
9. is a
11. Kvothe Kingkiller
12. Lord Genome
6. NoYouCantChangeNamesOnNF
17. Lord Melkor
18. ~Mystic Serenade~

remaining player list

if i had to guess

a normal 20 player game is usually 15 town 5 mafia? definitly some indies apparently and i would guess one sk type

13 players and i would guess 4 mafia 2 indies max

so that means 7 town, 4 mafia, 2 indies in a worst case scenario which means today is a potential lylo day

we so far have

wpk/kvothe/is a/samuel as soft confirmed i think(im town of course)

so that leaves a pool of

nessos
sin(mafia or indie confirmed)
ussopp
oddjustsu
okosan(mafia or indie confirmed)
melodie
mexicorn
mystic

for mafia/town suspects, assuming the soft confirmed towns are town

i want to say nessos and mexicorn are both town but i might be tunneling on that too hard tbh and the pool is getting pretty small for it

sin(mafia or indie confirmed)
ussopp
oddjustsu
okosan(mafia or indie confirmed)
melodie
mystic

melodie didnt target anyone last night so theres that i guess

Good list, but you forgot me.

How else would I know? I’m
Trying to not to say to much that’ll get me mid blocked, killed or whatever but it’s due to the only way I should or would know how.

Why do you think I was coaxing okosan and others to lynch me. I’m tied to him it would’ve simply resulted in him taking my place. I can only be killed.

False as well. We only lost a watcher and roleblocker.

So we have quite a lot of confirmed or semi-confirmed townies. I think SinRaven is Mafia for sure. That means Mafia should be among Mystic, Usopp, Melodie, maybe Oddjutsu? I also do not trust Okosan and believe he may be hostile indie.

By the way as part of my power each night I receive quotes from Mafia chat, two are true and one is false. I quess I will share them now for thoughts:

Night 1:

"... activate it on night 2. Just don't vote for me again tomorrow, and we are fine..."

"... they are town reading all of us right now..."

"... wait for end of this phase to switch or you may look scummy..."

Night 2:

"... they don't know your claim is a lie yet, so you should be safe today..."

"... if he doesn't vote for anyone then it's a self vote for 2, add the 7 vote power we have to work with and we're looking at 9..."

"... the game will end soon as long as that doesn't happen..."

 

[Melodie]

 

[Lord Melkor]

What people think of Oddjustsu? I do not like his contributions recently, I recall him being more active as town, so is one of good candidates for Mafia IMO.

 

[Hidden]

"... if he doesn't vote for anyone then it's a self vote for 2, add the 7 vote power we have to work with and we're looking at 9..."

Cooooo! Cooo! (So Okosan was actualy thinking about this last night, but in LOL mafia 2 there was a role that got vote power when people voted their members. So Okosan was actually wondering if that was something that happened yesterday. You know who also got exactly 7 vote yesterday? NoYou. So that's interesting)

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

[Change Vote Lynch NoYou]

 

[Hidden]

Coo! (Okosan: Points out how NoYou may be getting vote power from people voting them
Kvothe: Votes NoYou)

Coooo! (Interesting approach)

 

[Lord Genome]

@WolfPrinceKouga

need an opinion

if kvothe is mafia who would her scummates be

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

wait hold up i think i read that wrong

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

i'm not mafia

 

[Lord Genome]

i dont like that oka had my thought

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

well now im confused is noyou mafia

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Coooo! (Oh wait the person you chose got a buff? Yeah that's interesting. But legit the only indy that works well for that is cult and some role where Okosan has to kill X specific people. Anything else isn't super conducive to that unless Okosan isn't thinking of something. Especially sk like you're suggesting since all you'd be doing is improving the chance Okosan kills you in the future)

COOOOO! (Survivor is maybe the least offensive option that isn't those listed above since it doesn't affect you in a negative way besides probably making it so Okosan lives easier)

I'm immune to kills by my chosen player, else yeah that would be stupid.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Coo! (Okosan: Points out how NoYou may be getting vote power from people voting them
Kvothe: Votes NoYou)

Coooo! (Interesting approach)

Wait ok. He voted for Ratchet last phase so is he the one getting the vote powers?

 

[Hidden]

COO! (For night one Okosan thinks quote 1 or 3 would be the false one. Considering they seem to be conveying different ideas. 1 being "Continue to vote me but switch tomorrow," and 3 being "Make sure you swap off of someone")

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

@WolfPrinceKouga

need an opinion

if kvothe is mafia who would her scummates be

Sin made a fairly long post pushing onto them for the Ratchet thing but I'm not sure that's really clearing. Other then confirmed scum interacting with Kvothe I don't remember much of their interactions atm. Will try to do a reread later for teammate analysis with Sin.

 

[Lord Genome]

Night 1:

"... activate it on night 2. Just don't vote for me again tomorrow, and we are fine..."

"... they are town reading all of us right now..."


Night 2:

"... they don't know your claim is a lie yet, so you should be safe today..."

"... if he doesn't vote for anyone then it's a self vote for 2, add the 7 vote power we have to work with and we're looking at 9..."


these are the truths i think

the town reading thing jsut sounds like something mafia would say, and would make sense looking back

the activate it night 2 makes sense for the night two post, and the claim is a lie makes sense for sins claim(ie he im pretty sure he can be lynched)

so going off this, im still rereading day 1,

sinraven
oddjutsu

are two heavy mafia favorites for me

back to reading

 

[Hidden]

Cooooooooo! (Also maaan that quote 1 from night 2 really lends itself well to the paranoia world of WPK being scum Okosan thought of lmao)

 

[Lord Genome]

and by heavy mafia, sin is obv mafia but im like 90% sure odd is too

 

[Lord Genome]

Cooooooooo! (Also maaan that quote 1 from night 2 really lends itself well to the paranoia world of WPK being scum Okosan thought of lmao)

quote 1 night 2 makes more sense for sinraven imo

 

[Lord Genome]

i was also thinking kvothe for that but im still reading

 

[Hidden]

quote 1 night 2 makes more sense for sinraven imo

Coo! (Well so the world that Okosan thought of was that mafia spied Okosan as indy/survivor, then WPK claims that with his partner that can't be lynched the next day as the other mafia. Then WPK approaches both of us, eventually lynches Sin who stays cagey about their power while Okosan obviously insta claims, then they get a free mislynch or two depending on how long Sin can stay like that. meanwhile WPK gets town cred for throwing attention on mafia)

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

i was also thinking kvothe for that but im still reading

for which one? cause i was not being town read day 1

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Coo! (Well so the world that Okosan thought of was that mafia spied Okosan as indy/survivor, then WPK claims that with his partner that can't be lynched the next day as the other mafia. Then WPK approaches both of us, eventually lynches Sin who stays cagey about their power while Okosan obviously insta claims, then they get a free mislynch or two depending on how long Sin can stay like that. meanwhile WPK gets town cred for throwing attention on mafia)

ddl backed up wpk's claim though

 

[Hidden]

COO! (But with DDL getting buffed yeah it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But Okosan will hold out his paranoia world thank you. Just for post game cred)

 

[Lord Genome]

honestly though either way im thinking oddone is almost guarenteed mafia with all this

im tinfoiling a little bit with a couple things but i think this is the best near guarenteed lynch

[change vote lynch oddone]

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

ok someone clarify with me. My assumption through those texts implicated noyou as mafia, is that not the case?

 

[Lord Genome]

if they wanted to pile on someone who self votes that person is gonna be mystic or melodie, probably mystic, which would take him out of the immediate mafia pool for me

@~Mystic Serenade~ vote for oddone(or anyone tbh) so you dont get a self vote thx

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

COO! (For night one Okosan thinks quote 1 or 3 would be the false one. Considering they seem to be conveying different ideas. 1 being "Continue to vote me but switch tomorrow," and 3 being "Make sure you swap off of someone")

Quote 1 seems obviously intended to make Ratchet look like scum so I'm 95% sure that's the false one. Night 2 is harder, 7 vote power at one time should be at most something temporary when it's only a 20 player game. The talk about claims being false could apply to many claims made d2. The other one is boring and is probable to be said, so it could be false just because it is so lacking in spice that people will think it's one of the real ones and conclude one of the other two are false.

This is all assuming LM is telling the truth here.

 

[Lord Genome]

ok someone clarify with me. My assumption through those texts implicated noyou as mafia, is that not the case?

was he townread day one? havent finished reading it

if so yes and that would make nessos also mafia with your thing, which would mean your town

which in that case gives us mexicorn/sin/odd/nessos plus maybe one more

 

[Lord Genome]

Quote 1 seems obviously intended to make Ratchet look like scum so I'm 95% sure that's the false one. Night 2 is harder, 7 vote power at one time should be at most something temporary when it's only a 20 player game. The talk about claims being false could apply to many claims made d2. The other one is boring and is probable to be said, so it could be false just because it is so lacking in spice that people will think it's one of the real ones and conclude one of the other two are false.

This is all assuming LM is telling the truth here.

i didnt think about it being a ratchet frame thing but that does make sense..

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Cooooo! Cooo! (So Okosan was actualy thinking about this last night, but in LOL mafia 2 there was a role that got vote power when people voted their members. So Okosan was actually wondering if that was something that happened yesterday. You know who also got exactly 7 vote yesterday? NoYou. So that's interesting)

The quote is "the 7 vote power we have to work with", this would imply it's the entire team, and that is still a scary amount of vote power for an entire team. Just one member having that would be ludicrous.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

was he townread day one? havent finished reading it

if so yes and that would make nessos also mafia with your thing, which would mean your town

which in that case gives us mexicorn/sin/odd/nessos plus maybe one more

well i dont think mexikorn was being read as town day 1. in fact he was sussed by many ppl at first and he was part of the train. I was thinking about the third quote that birdy was talking about. I thought NoYou was getting vote powers

 

[Melodie]

Oddjutsu is scum? Colour me surprised. death to the betrayer