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Again thanks to the one who killed Samael.
You should join the Melodie train don't wanna accidentally kill you next night.
You should join the Melodie train don't wanna accidentally kill you next night.
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Why should we have 0 vote power?
[Vote Lynch Melody]I already explained, but you know what. Do what you will, best of luck
Yeah right[vote Lynch no you]
Lmao
If they survived a super kill they should be the lynch today.
[Vote NoYouCantChangeNamesOnNF]
Also Samael be out here bluffing about being unkillable, but mafia probably just rolecopped him
They probably have rolecopped me too and know my role is useless so I'm stuck not getting killed despite leading town.
This is actually trueNew nf mafia meta.
One of the birds is always scum
Oko and Sin are indies, don't wanna have to reveal the last Mafia member.
But one for sure Town vig gonna get lynched today. And all Indies should Join the Melody lynch if they wanna win.
We have the higher vote powerI do not see how you can win - you revealed yourself and we still have sufficient number advantage.
Who the fuck is NoYouCantChangeNamesOnNF?Agreed.
[Change Vote Lynch NoYouCantChangeNamesOnNF]
Do you think it is plausible that there are 5 mafia players in this game? I think 4 plus one or two indies would be standard in 20 persons game but on the other hand they basically revealed themselves at the end of last dayphase.... they must see an option for their victory.
We have the higher vote power
You was the one Killing Samael?
Is anything you are saying true at this point?
You think one of us town killed Samael?
And Survivor, SK or neutral chaos not joining supporting Mafia now is making a huge mistake.
It guarantees a mafia and an indie in the wording.@WolfPrinceKouga
does your ability guarantee a mafia and an indie or could it be two indies with different win cons?
am i missing something or isn’t it obviously okosan
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I think you made a huge mistake in revealing yourself lol. I was 100% convinced mafia was gonna win and then yall outed yourself to save a bad apple.
?????
I have no idea who to support now.
Nope, you are Mafia pretending to be Indie, obviously.![]()
Fifteen.mafia sweating that they legit ran it down mid last phase for no reason and now we too fed![]()
That's my thinking
The whole super kill failing this is like super duper red flag
Yes, Okosan is good candidate for our vigilante after we lynch Mafia today.
Coo! (Imagine thinking Okosan is mafia and not Sin)am i missing something or isn’t it obviously okosan
Coooooo! (Okosan means, you'd have to make a pretty convincing case as to why Okosan should join you. You all outed yesterday so now town can use their abilities on you without any worry about missing. Plus it sounds like you're all vote silenced now. So like, it's not that appealing)And Survivor, SK or neutral chaos not joining supporting Mafia now is making a huge mistake.
Coooooo! (Okosan means, you'd have to make a pretty convincing case as to why Okosan should join you. You all outed yesterday so now town can use their abilities on you without any worry about missing. Plus it sounds like you're all vote silenced now. So like, it's not that appealing)
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Draven
The Glorious Executioner
alignment: guilty
wincon: eliminate everyone outside your faction
"Subtle? I don't do subtle."
[Passive - Huge in Noxus] - Draven is a celebrity in his city, granting him a voting power of 2.
[Passive - League of Draven] - If Draven is voting for another player when they are lynched, he will perform the execution himself, increasing his fame and permanently granting him an additional voting power.
[Passive - Adoration] - If Draven reaches 4 voting power, he will gain the ability to fool investigative abilities. If Draven reaches 5 voting power, he will gain the ability to vote silence another player each day.
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Yuumi
The Magical Cat
alignment: guilty
wincon: eliminate everyone outside your faction
"They aren't ready for the ferocious team of... US!"
[One Shot Passive - Final Chapter] - The first time one of Yuumi's teammates would die, she will unleash the ultimate power of Book to rescue them from danger.
[Passive - Housecat] - Yuumi appears to be a harmless pet. Yuumi cannot be murdered or lynched, but if all of Yuumi's teammates die, she will leave the game as well.
[One Shot Active - Zoomies] - Yuumi can enchant her attached teammate for 1 night, enabling them to perform 2 faction kills instead of 1.
[Active - You and Me!] - Each night Yuumi must attach herself to one of her teammates, redirecting abilities used on Yuumi to her target. If Yuumi does not select a target, the moderator will randomly choose one for her. Yuumi enchants her target, protecting them against roleblocks for that night.
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Fiora Laurent
The Grand Duelist
alignment: guilty
wincon: eliminate everyone outside your faction
"Sharp blade, sharp mind."
[Passive - Riposte] - Fiora is undefeated in armed combat. If another player attempts to kill Fiora, she will learn their name and roleblock them.
[Passive - Vitals] - If Fiora performs the faction kill, she will also roleblock her victim. If Fiora attempts to faction kill the same person 2 nights in a row, her kill will be upgraded to a superkill.
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Ivern
The Green Father
alignment: innocent
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town
"I follow only the sun! Eh, and sometimes a river. This one time, a scorpion."
[One Shot Passive - Daisy!] - Ivern's Sentinel Friend will block the first kill aimed at him. Daisy cannot block superkills. If Daisy is still alive when Ivern chooses a teammate, Ivern can send her to protect them instead of himself.
[Passive - True Neutral] - If another player investigates Ivern's alignment before he chooses a teammate, their results will read "inconclusive."
[One Shot Active - Friends of the Forest] - At the beginning of the game, the host will offer three players to Ivern, one from each alignment (the town, the mafia and an independent). By the end of day 4, Ivern must align himself with one of the given players, causing him to adopt their win condition and alignment. Ivern will also enchant his chosen player, permanently improving one of their abilities, and roleblocking them if they ever attack Ivern. Ivern cannot choose a player who has already died, and if Ivern or all three of his given players die before he chooses one, Ivern will lose the game.
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Karma
The Enlightened One
alignment: guilty
wincon: eliminate all other players
"I have seen two paths, and made another between."
[Passive - Gathering Fire] - When other players help lynch an innocent player or don't vote for anyone, they permanently lose 1 point of karma. If a player with -2 karma points or less targets Karma with a non-protective ability, their ability will fail.
[One Shot Active - Mantra] - If there are only 10 players alive including Karma, she will deduct 1 karma point from the other living players.
[Active - Soulflare] - Each night Karma can kill 2 players who have -2 karma points or less. If Karma's victim has -3 karma points or less, her kill will be upgraded to a superkill.
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Ornn
The Fire Below the Mountain
alignment: innocent
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town
"Ornn builds things, go see Ornn. Nobody ever says thank you."
[Two Shot Active - Living Forge] - Ornn can craft a magical item for another player, which will allow them to use a limited use ability an extra time. If Ornn's target has no limited use abilities, he will permanently improve 1 of their abilities instead. Ornn cannot use this ability twice on the same player.
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Kalista
The Spear of Vengeance
alignment: innocent
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town
"Turncoats, oath breakers and betrayers... we hate them all."
[One Shot Active - Oathsworn] - During the day, Kalista can conjure the spirit of a dead innocent player who was murdered, enabling them to post in the thread. Each night, Kalista can investigate another player to learn whether they killed the player she conjured. When Kalista finds the killer, she will attempt to kill them. When Kalista or the killer die, the player she conjured returns to the grave and can no longer post.
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Soraka
The Starchild
alignment: innocent
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town
"Two paths lie before you, but you can only take one."
[Passive - Pacifist] - Soraka condemns all forms of violence, giving her a voting power of 0.
[Passive - Salvation] - Soraka is immortal, granting her 2 bonus lives and enabling her to continue posting after she dies.
[Active - Astral Infusion] - Each night, Soraka can permanently transfer 1 of her lives to another player.
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Ashe
The Frost Archer
alignment: innocent
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town
"The goddess Avarosa... I say I hear her voice. But I hear only my mother's, and mourn her passing."
[Passive - Warmother] - Ashe is the revered leader of the fearsome Avarosan tribe. When another player is voting for the same person as Ashe, they gain +1 voting power.
[Active - Hawkshot] - Each night, Ashe can conjure a hawk spirit to follow another player, telling Ashe who they target that night.
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Malzahar
The Prophet of the Void
alignment: innocent
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town
"As was foreseen."
[Passive - Malefic Visions] - Each night, Malzahar will receive 3 quotes from the mafia chat, of which 2 will be fake and 1 will be real. In addition, Malzahar will also receive the results of 1 investigation used by another player that night.
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Sylas
The Unshackled
alignment: innocent
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town
"A shepherd with no flock is just an idiot with a stick."
[Passive - Petricite Shackles] - Sylas is adorned by powerful chains that react to magic. If another player uses an ability on Sylas, he will learn what the ability's effect was.
[Two Shot Active - Hijack] - Sylas can temporarily mimic the effect of an ability that was used on him, enabling him to use that ability for 2 nights.
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Sona
Maven of the Strings
alignment: innocent
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town
"Her melody moves the soul, her silence sunders the body."
[One Shot Active - Crescendo] - Sona can amplify her music for 1 night, causing her abilities to affect all 3 players she entranced that day.
[Active - Power Chord] - Each day, Sona can play a hymn to entrance the 3 players who most recently posted in the thread. That night, Sona can only use her abilities on the players she entranced during the day.
[Active - Aria of Perseverance] - During the night, Sona can cast a healing aura to protect an entranced player against kills.
[Active - Dimuendo] - During the night, Sona can weaken an entranced player, roleblocking them.
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Zac
The Secret Weapon
alignment: innocent
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town
"I was made for this... literally."
[One Shot Passive - Cell Division] - If Zac is murdered, he will janitor his own role and resurrect himself after 2 cycles.
[One Shot Passive - Unstable Matter] - Zac's composition will change to fit the town's needs. Zac will gain the ability of the town's watcher, tracker, doctor or roleblocker, depending on which of them dies first.
Coooo! (Yeah Okosan was a little confused about your ability and him being a sk though. Because your wincon would then become "eliminate all other players" which is impossible for you? The only thing you can do at point is just hope Okosan never tries to kill you and just sit there which seems iffy)Oh hey look @Okosan was an SK like I thought![]()
My chosen player couldn't kill me.Coooo! (Yeah Okosan was a little confused about your ability and him being a sk though. Because your wincon would then become "eliminate all other players" which is impossible for you? The only thing you can do at point is just hope Okosan never tries to kill you and just sit there which seems iffy)
Coooo! (Nah Okosan could only kill people who had -2 or less karma. And like, if you picked town or mafia you basically out Okosan which is oof)My role wasn't intentionally meant to be an info role like how it ended up being used. It's the kind of psuedo-investigation that I have talked about a lot in the past and is included in DDL's role madness guide based on my learnings from my own failings(...like Lindsay Lohan in Favs 3). It is an easy trap to fall into, and why a role like this should choose faction over a player within said faction. The Watchtower role from War of the Realms is a good example of this.
I don't think this truly broke the game by any means, I don't know if Shizune handpicked the person with Yuumi from the mafia as a safeguard against what I could do with my info, but it definitely worked out in mafia's favor more than not. If I didn't come out about SinRaven the most likely lynches d2 were Oddjutsu or NoYou/Mexicorn which would have been much worse for mafia.
Only Okosan got their win chance really screwed here because mafia flopped so hard and they were outted with no way of counteracting things with good play. I do feel sorry for them, but not too much because they probably tried to kill me n1![]()
COOOOO! (Sure, but besides that you have no sway in what happens. Barring that the only way to really get to that situation is for Okosan to kill everyone else, and if he ever tries to kill you he's basically wasting kills)My chosen player couldn't kill me.
How would the karma protect work with Diana
I'm guessing it doesn't since Diana is a spirit so doesn't have any points?
Cooooooo! (Personally Okosan thinks WPK outing Okosan was worse than mafia losing early tbh. If Okosan wasn't outed, but mafia still lost quickly, Okosan could've started mowing down people at some point at least. With Okosan outed he couldn't kill anyone without outing himself as a sk to someone. Either town noticing there's way too many kills and lynching him, or mafia noticing like they did last phase)I didn't expect WPK to choose a player so early, but as he said, mafia losing the game so suddenly was worse for Okosan than WPK outing him was. Even still, Okosan came very close to winning, and may have at least forced a draw if the very last night phase went differently. This was an unfortunate game for Okosan all around, despite Okosan playing well, and I appreciate Okosan being a good sport about it.
Coo! (Okosan did actually think he had a shot still, but it involved 3 people dying last night. So both of his shots and mafia had to have all killed someone. Then it would 3-1-1 (assuming nessos died and sin lived), and Okosan thinks he might be able to convince people that mafia is trying to frame him to get the win the next night. Especially when he kills people like Mystic when Okosan claimed to only be able to kill people on multiple mislynches. Still pretty unlikely though)Yeah no doubt @Okosan you had almost no chance of winning this game if I lived, didn't choose you and outted my info. Even with choosing you the problem you talk about would arise, think in the case of the indie option at least that becoming masons should have been on the table.
Not blaming Shizune here too much, lots of working parts and hindsight is 20/20. Let the role madness host without a major failure cast the first stone.
Sure, I'll add you to the chat now. Beware, the last page is mostly Oddjutsu flaming me.
Anyone else who wants to be added, just let me know.