Game Women In Fiction (mafia+indie win!)

[Magic]

I was about to form the birdwatching committee and have everyone in it except SinRaven , a missed opportunity. GG and good luck.

I have to reread the police convo, but you should have kept it secret it was ur ability. x_x

I'm pissed since it had huge networking potential.

This kinda pings me, feels manipulative.

I can post how the convo went?

Where you been all game? Had no idea you were even playing.

 

[Cooler]

Or
I am a Miller.

That's cool to say nowadays.

I am indeed a miller.

 

[Lord Melkor]

How is it determined what you get?

Would you get my killing ability?

I would get an ability "based on one of your abilities", according to my role PM. Flavour wise it is referred to as "training".

 

[Flower]

Honestly of all the Miller claims...

I trust Cooler's the most.

Usopp's is whatever now.

And Cat's I trust not at all. I think she's outed scum at this point.

 

[Cooler]

I have to reread the police convo, but you should have kept it secret it was ur ability. x_x

I'm pissed since it had huge networking potential.
I can post how the convo went?

Where you been all game? Had no idea you were even playing.

Wedding venues on Saturday, BBQ Sunday and braindead Monday lol. I mean, you can give me a play by play but that post will probably still feel like it has an agenda to me.

For those who were present last day...did AM hint his role in the thread much? On a quick skim I caught maybe one hint.

 

[dunya]

[vote lynch catamount]

 

[Flower]

Anyway, that Sin wagon needs to get smaller and the Cat wagon bigger.

 

[Cooler]

Anyway, that Sin wagon needs to get smaller and the Cat wagon bigger.

Do you trust the invest result on Sin?

 

[dunya]

Wedding venues on Saturday, BBQ Sunday and braindead Monday lol. I mean, you can give me a play by play but that post will probably still feel like it has an agenda to me.

For those who were present last day...did AM hint his role in the thread much? On a quick skim I caught maybe one hint.

i think the fact he was in there with us was kind of a hint lol.

 

[Magic]

this game is kinda frustrating from how heavy the roles are and going into mech lingo. it's also at a busy time for me at work/other projects im already committed to.

i signed up to sub for someone who got banned before this game started as a favor to my friend nitty.

i'm not really committed to reading 45 pages each phase, because i dont have the time. if you want to yeet me for that, sure.

here's my scumleans atp:

remchu
catamount
juan
kat
familyparka
WPK


based on thread environment, oddjustu seems like another misyeet option like me imo.

Lord Melkor and John Wayne are contributing just enough to coast, but staying under the radar so i'd look there too eventually (along with kat tbh).

not loving the way cata handled sinraven either. may be w/t. i never got the case on sinraven anyway.

that's where my head's at.

kue is just tunneled on me or actually the godfather.

Nice excuses.

1. Ur being dumb. Still dumb.

2. Who was telling us to investigate odd yesterday? Yet the lot of you picked what u did. -.-

3.wake up

 

[dunya]

Nice excuses.

1. Ur being dumb. Still dumb.

2. Who was telling us to investigate odd yesterday? Yet the lot of you picked what u did. -.-

3.wake up

never call anyone dumb in a game of mafia please, it's gross.

 

[Flower]

Do you trust the invest result on Sin?

I feel like going with the one who is here. Sin wasn't. I don't like going for people who don't defend themselves.

 

[Magic]

Hayumi cleared.

Usopp claimed day 1. Doubt he is pulling mafia gambit.

I'm not mafia

Dunya ???

Process of elimination she's the rat.

 

[Flower]

[Vote Set Free].

Forgot to do this.

 

[dunya]

Hayumi cleared.

Usopp claimed day 1. Doubt he is pulling mafia gambit.

I'm not mafia

Dunya ???

Process of elimination she's the rat.

then you understand why you're the bottom of my poe. ;p

 

[Magic]

never call anyone dumb in a game of mafia please, it's gross.

Okay, you're scum my bad.

 

[Cooler]

i think the fact he was in there with us was kind of a hint lol.

Could have been random? lol Throwing shade on the dead as well aha. So do you think anyone in the commitee is scum?

I feel like going with the one who is here. Sin wasn't. I don't like going for people who don't defend themselves.

Fair enough.

 

[Magic]

then you understand why you're the bottom of my poe. ;p

You don't understand.

 

[dunya]

got to the point where wpk defends cata over sin.

interesting if w/w lol

 

[Cooler]

Hayumi cleared.

Usopp claimed day 1. Doubt he is pulling mafia gambit.

I'm not mafia

Dunya ???

Process of elimination she's the rat.

Fair enough. dunya flips town do you then go for Usopp? Or do you think no scum in the chat?

 

[Kue]

With the secret PMs saying to doubt the town core and people pushing hard the idea that somehow I came off town through multiple abilities, even ones that would require a GF to have abilities I have never seen before in a mafia game, the people trying to doubt Cypher and I are either town that are not paying attention, or it's a really poor attempt to cause chaos in the town.

We haven't even caused major mislynches yet, Xad said he was indie, then said he was innocent, then he revealed his abilities and made it sound as if he was an SK. It's too early to cause so much doubt.

The paranoia seems pretty fake imo, it's a veil being used to cause more chaos.

 

[Flower]

@Sigismund who else visited me last night?

 

[Cooler]

With the secret PMs saying to doubt the town core and people pushing hard the idea that somehow I came off town through multiple abilities, even ones that would require a GF to have abilities I have never seen before in a mafia game, the people trying to doubt Cypher and I are either town that are not paying attention, or it's a really poor attempt to cause chaos in the town.

We haven't even caused major mislynches yet, Xad said he was indie, then said he was innocent, then he revealed his abilities and made it sound as if he was an SK. It's too early to cause so much doubt.

The paranoia seems pretty fake imo, it's a veil being used to cause more chaos.

Who stands out to you?

 

[dunya]

You don't understand.

you're saying i'm scum because i can't play the game for 5hrs every day and because process of elimination says i'm the rat in the committee.

i'm saying you're scum by POE and also your opportunistic push on me as soon as kue bit into me as "the rat among us".

let's thunderdone it

 

[Kue]

So Oddjutsu claimed that he was a vig that killed AM? Am I understanding that right?

I don't really believe in coincidences in mafia, it's more likely to me that there was a rat in the committee that figured out that it was AM and got rid of him than just a wild kill hitting AM.

 

[dunya]

Could have been random? lol Throwing shade on the dead as well aha. So do you think anyone in the commitee is scum?

sorry, i didn't mean it as shade to Alwaysmind, i was going by what people in there were saying.

i think remchu has high mafia equity at this point.

 

[Kue]

Who stands out to you?

Dunya looks a lot worse now.

She posted her thoughts about me being GF, then it seems as if she reread the thread to realize that it's getting less and less probable, then quickly pivoted to 'But it's just too many mechanics!' to ward off suspicion of her.

If I was vig I would shoot her.

 

[Kue]

WPK's paranoia could be founded but then again, there was no major mislynch yet.

Is WPK trying to cause chaos or is he genuinely skeptical?

 

[dunya]

Dunya looks a lot worse now.

She posted her thoughts about me being GF, then it seems as if she reread the thread to realize that it's getting less and less probable, then quickly pivoted to 'But it's just too many mechanics!' to ward off suspicion of her.

If I was vig I would shoot her.

no, you're just tunneled. and you're right, the more i read the more i realized you can't be GF. how does that make me scum with teammates? consider that.

 

[Magic]

you're saying i'm scum because i can't play the game for 5hrs every day and because process of elimination says i'm the rat in the committee.

i'm saying you're scum by POE and also your opportunistic push on me as soon as kue bit into me as "the rat among us".

let's thunderdone it

That's not what I said. But continue to be clueless. Not my problem. Take care.

 

[Cooler]

WPK's paranoia could be founded but then again, there was no major mislynch yet.

Is WPK trying to cause chaos or is he genuinely skeptical?

I don't really remember being paranoid before. It's kind why I'm leaning wolf, he's not as brash or confident as he usually is IMO.

 

[Lord Melkor]

So Oddjutsu claimed that he was a vig that killed AM? Am I understanding that right?

I don't really believe in coincidences in mafia, it's more likely to me that there was a rat in the committee that figured out that it was AM and got rid of him than just a wild kill hitting AM.

Yes, he straigtforward admitted to killing AM.

 

[dunya]

I would say AM and Dunya are the mafia in the committee.

Fair chance that we are all "town".

but I wouldn't trust AM as far as I can throw him. Not really sure why she thinks I'm a wolf lol? Odd.

Yeah it became obvious and he didn't deny. Would have to reread but yeah.

Dunya was last to vote and comment. Pointed fingers at me. Usopp too but think he was joking so lol? I dont scum read him though.

His role is super useful. Of course they would kill him. We could coordinate and discuss in there. If scum let that go its game over for them.

It's Dunya, they didn't even participate in group discussion same time as us. They also pointed fingers at me to be mafia. I pointed zero fingers I just wanted to discuss suspects and get the team working together.

Nice excuses.

1. Ur being dumb. Still dumb.

2. Who was telling us to investigate odd yesterday? Yet the lot of you picked what u did. -.-

3.wake up

Hayumi cleared.

Usopp claimed day 1. Doubt he is pulling mafia gambit.

I'm not mafia

Dunya ???

Process of elimination she's the rat.

That's not what I said. But continue to be clueless. Not my problem. Take care.

how am i being clueless, remchu.

please, point me to your different case.

 

[Cooler]

@Oddjutsu @SinRaven @Catamount

Give me your reads on dunya and Remchu.

 

[Kue]

Yes, he straigtforward admitted to killing AM.

That changes things for sure. I'll need to think about it.

 

[dunya]

@Oddjutsu @SinRaven @Catamount

Give me your reads on dunya and Remchu.

what do you think of Juan calling you out specifically?

 

[Flower]

On second glance I don‘t see any of these messages being from Town. There is no need to be so cryptic in them. Just clearly state what you want and what you know if you wanna rely info to somebody.

 

[Ekkologix]

Forgot I had this multiquoted but hey...I don't think it's likely that Cypher could/would fake their execute given Xadlin did have a BP shot, and the only other way for Cypher to know that is by a role cop. Who the fuck would waste a role cop on Xadlin as scum?

Now I'm scum for posting too early :

hard old rating this lol

oh wow everyone suspects me, even my fellow committee members.

is there anyone who doesn't suspect me?

my role is kinda more fun if i die anyway tbh.

ok we will help u die to achieve ur role maximum fun

not u too usopp.

we've at least played before, you know i'm not mafia here

no i don't. go awayyy!
u claimed u randed vanilla in an RM game and proceeded with low activity like here lmao
i died too early to pay attention to the rest lol

 

[Cooler]

what do you think of Juan calling you out specifically?

Don't really think anything of it tbh. I actually expected more people to call me out for my activity.

 

[dunya]

no i don't. go awayyy!
u claimed u randed vanilla in an RM game and proceeded with low activity like here lmao
i died too early to pay attention to the rest lol

i claimed n0 cop (so i was technically vanilla once i claimed)

it's not my fault the host decided to give me a fake claim of a role he already had in the game. smh. not mu fault my two teammates replaced out and left me.

i was like second highest poster despite haiku.

come on now!

 

[Flower]

Those were the numbers I received in the message:

5, 6, 19, 1, 4, 2, 11, 7, 12, 17, 20, 13, 14, 9, 16, 15, 18, 3, 8, 10

 

[dunya]

Don't really think anything of it tbh. I actually expected more people to call me out for my activity.

is activity AI indicative for you?

 

[familyparka]

Okay so apparently Cypher got a message, and in his message there were 2 other messagers mentioned. One of those messages was sent to JW apparently, so there's one more message that hasn't been revealed.

Maybe the person who got the message does not see fit to revealing this information yet, which I think is okay. Just keep in mind this can also mean the message could imply two non-townies meeting as well.

After reading what yall had to say, I lean a little bit more on the Catamount vote, but Sin is still looking as scummy as ever. However his inactivity isn't helping him anytime soon, so I think we can even try to vig him tonight.

[change vote lynch Catamount]

Also regarding WPK execution

[vote set free]

I blindly trust Cypher's calls at this point, I do believe that he is the town lie detector, and given the fact that he's still alive, he's also already getting targetted by the doctor, which is great. I'm not even gonna start entertaining the possibility of Hayumi's reveal being bs.

 

[Cooler]

is activity AI indicative for you?

It's not but activity is usually the first port of call for scum looking to blend in or weaker townies.

 

[familyparka]

Those were the numbers I received in the message:

5, 6, 19, 1, 4, 2, 11, 7, 12, 17, 20, 13, 14, 9, 16, 15, 18, 3, 8, 10

That's a list of 20 numbers, but there were 21 players at the start of the game... hmmm

Maybe the messager is saying something about the other 20 players?

 

[Ekkologix]

But if we believe the theory that there was a rat on commitee and told his scum group about it, then iit would mean Odd was the scum who carried the kill.

But in that case why would Odd admit to carrying a kill? It would a very bold play from him.

odd claimed vig in a game on WG where he killed me and i flipped town and he told everyone on the thread that i must be a scum death miller that flips town on death...

and ppl actually bought it lol
so yes he does that kinda bold claim and ive seen it first hand.

Wedding venues on Saturday, BBQ Sunday and braindead Monday lol. I mean, you can give me a play by play but that post will probably still feel like it has an agenda to me.

For those who were present last day...did AM hint his role in the thread much? On a quick skim I caught maybe one hint.

not im the police chat
however u dont need 200IQ to figure it was his ability

the fact that he is was added to the committee before making any posts and the fact that he posted police memes on the thread says enough tbf

 

[familyparka]

We should probably stick to the Catamount/Sin lynch this day, then vig the other one tonight.

Then we can focus our efforts in figuring out who the rat was inside the commitee.

 

[Kue]

We should probably stick to the Catamount/Sin lynch this day, then vig the other one tonight.

Then we can focus our efforts in figuring out who the rat was inside the commitee.

I'm questioning the whole rat narrative because it was Odd that apparently killed AM.

 

[familyparka]

I'm questioning the whole rat narrative because it was Odd that apparently killed AM.

Why in the world would he do that lmao. Unless he's indy scum/regular scum obviously.

 

[dunya]

It's not but activity is usually the first port of call for scum looking to blend in or weaker townies.

i think it's also common for scum to call on LHF low posters in an active thread.

 

[Ekkologix]

On second glance I don‘t see any of these messages being from Town. There is no need to be so cryptic in them. Just clearly state what you want and what you know if you wanna rely info to somebody.

throwing shades at me and hayumi
they obv are scum as sht

 

[Ekkologix]

i think it's also common for scum to call on LHF low posters in an active thread.

thats cata's entire gameplay
mentioning inactives but never properly pushing them to talk

 

[Cooler]

not im the police chat
however u dont need 200IQ to figure it was his ability

the fact that he is was added to the committee before making any posts and the fact that he posted police memes on the thread says enough tbf

If it was that obvious then chasing committee members could be a big red herring.

 

[Ekkologix]

anyway lets see how many ppl dig their grave with this sin vote

 

[familyparka]

On second glance I don‘t see any of these messages being from Town. There is no need to be so cryptic in them. Just clearly state what you want and what you know if you wanna rely info to somebody.

Unless the person sending them had to be cryptic/thought they might have been intercepted/watched.

We know there are redirect abilities in role madness, there is a strong possibility that the message could end up in the wrong hands, and give mafia even more info.

I wouldn't disregard every message just because they look cryptic, specially on day 2.

 

[Cooler]

anyway lets see how many ppl dig their grave with this sin vote

You don't think he's scum?

 

[Ekkologix]

If it was that obvious then chasing committee members could be a big red herring.

it was obvious asfk lol
if i figured it out, then i can think of 15 ppl here that can do too

all u need is to read the thread really

 

[John Wayne]

anyway lets see how many ppl dig their grave with this sin vote

What's that supposed to mean??

 

[Ekkologix]

You don't think he's scum?

lets wait on him to talk first shall we

but ill bring this up b4 EoD if he hasnt talked by then

 

[familyparka]

anyway lets see how many ppl dig their grave with this sin vote

Okay now I'm confused

 

[Cooler]

lets wait on him to talk first shall we

but ill bring this up b4 EoD if he hasnt talked by then

Why say something if you're not going to elaborate lol.

 

[dunya]

ee:

 

[Hayumi]

On the off chance that odd’s telling the truth and isn’t scum, maybe mafia targeted AM as well and that’s why there was only one kill, unless someone else got protected and they tried to kill one of the confirmed people.

 

[Katsuargi]

I roleblocked WPK last night. Dunno if that's useful info to anyone. I just vaguely remember him being a power player back in the day so his low activity yesterday had me nervous.

 

[familyparka]

On the off chance that odd’s telling the truth and isn’t scum, maybe mafia targeted AM as well and that’s why there was only one kill, unless someone else got protected and they tried to kill one of the confirmed people.

This actually makes sense. Maybe we should have Cypher lie-detect Odd just in case?

 

[Kue]

it was obvious asfk lol
if i figured it out, then i can think of 15 ppl here that can do too

all u need is to read the thread really

 

[Flower]

Btw people, I‘m a girl .

Just letting you guys who never played with me know that.

 

[Ekkologix]

I roleblocked WPK last night. Dunno if that's useful info to anyone. I just vaguely remember him being a power player back in the day so his low activity yesterday had me nervous.

we are likely missing a night kill so yes info like this gets very useful down the line

 

[Cooler]

Btw people, I‘m a girl .

Just letting you guys who never played with me know that.

 

[dunya]

I roleblocked WPK last night. Dunno if that's useful info to anyone. I just vaguely remember him being a power player back in the day so his low activity yesterday had me nervous.

hmm on that front, i targeted sinraven last night and reversed any action he would take. a nk would become instead a doctor save.

 

[Cooler]

hmm on that front, i targeted sinraven last night and reversed any action he would take. a nk would become instead a doctor save.

On that front I did nothing last night because I misunderstood my abilities.

 

[Ekkologix]

sux we dont have any way to confirm any of this and sin isnt even here to talk about it

btw @dunya wouldnt that make a doctor save become a kill?

that ability in itself is dangerous

 

[familyparka]

hmm on that front, i targeted sinraven last night and reversed any action he would take. a nk would become instead a doctor save.

Are you sure that's how your ability works? What would a roleblock become?

 

[dunya]

sux we dont have any way to confirm any of this and sin isnt even here to talk about it

btw @dunya wouldnt that make a doctor save become a kill?

that ability in itself is dangerous

yes, but Odd already claimed the shot on AM so im not worried ;p

 

[familyparka]

sux we dont have any way to confirm any of this and sin isnt even here to talk about it

btw @dunya wouldnt that make a doctor save become a kill?

that ability in itself is dangerous

Sounds like his ability "reverses abilities", meaning sending them back to the user. I doubt it works the way he thinks it works, it would be utterly dangerous and chaotic.

 

[dunya]

Are you sure that's how your ability works? What would a roleblock become?

im sure. i dunno, i can ask the host. most likely it cancels the roleblock.

it's a high risk/high reward role.

 

[Flower]

Has anyone ever considered the kill on AM was done to cause confusion among the committee?

 

[Ekkologix]

some abilities are probably irreversable

idk if we belive this at face value lmao

 

[Ekkologix]

Has anyone ever considered the kill on AM was done to cause confusion among the committee?

that combined with the messages

yea why not

but i still rat read dunya and down to yeet her

 

[dunya]

reversing effects is literally in the role description, not reversing it onto the person.

so a doctor save becomes a kill, a kill becomes a doctor save,

i can team up with our doctor one day and give them a vig shot