Game Women In Fiction (mafia+indie win!)

[Magic]

Give me that neutral rating. good night ladies

 

[Juan]

You should expect surprises anyways.

nah

 

[Sigismund]

That's not my fault. You should expect surprises anyways. Like this is nothing new.

So the suprise is:
Nitty lies in the op (actually plausable)
Nitty then makes an Indie role, makes it neither Inncoent or Guilty, with no abilites except being a day 1 mason to someone who has a different wincon than you, which I noticed was another question you dodged, and then they can see your role as well. (Doubtful to say the very least)

@Kue is this actually his role?
If you're not the person he did that claimed ability with, then why do you trust him?

@Kvothe Kingkiller I swear I should have bussed you in SSBU if this is what your indie claim has caused.

 

[Magic]

So the suprise is:
Nitty lies in the op (actually plausable)
Nitty then makes an Indie role, makes it neither Inncoent or Guilty, with no abilites except being a day 1 mason to someone who has a different wincon than you, which I noticed was another question you dodged, and then they can see your role as well. (Doubtful to say the very least)

@Kue is this actually his role?
If you're not the person he did that claimed ability with, then why do you trust him?

@Kvothe Kingkiller I swear I should have bussed you in SSBU if this is what your indie claim has caused.

Concept of a survivor role is new to you?

=0 has the thought ever crossed your mind that the abilities reflect said character.

\yawn

Some high level stuff I'm saying here right?

 

[Magic]

[Rent free] intensifies

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Again, your alignment says neutral?

I kinda missed that but kue is vouching for Rem. They revealed that they were masons early on.

I don't think they're that bold to be scummates fake claiming masons

One theory I did think of is JW's role where he was scum mason in HST but why would his role be neutral and not just innocent for Kue. Seems odd lol

 

[Magic]

[Tin foil] intensifies

 

[Katsuargi]

Do any of the listed characters possibly line up at all with RemChu's claim?

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

I kinda missed that but kue is vouching for Rem. They revealed that they were masons early on.

I don't think they're that bold to be scummates fake claiming masons

One theory I did think of is JW's role where he was scum mason in HST but why would his role be neutral and not just innocent for Kue. Seems odd lol

I don't think they're scummates faking mason, but I don't trust that Kue saw Remchu's real role. Kue can be mafia, while RemChu is indie. Or Kue is just town, and RemChu indie/maybe mafia.

 

[Kue]

It's too late WPK, now I got confirmed town by two people, three if you count Remchu.

 

[Kue]

Yes Remchu is survivor.

 

[Magic]

Why do you think I skipped voting day 1? I have zero incentive to vote.

Same for today.

Like you guys over analyze things.

"I'm manipulative when I try to help."
"Mafia when I'm indie."
"Oh that has to be a fake role"

 

[Kue]

WPK planting seeds to lynch us later on, I see you.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

It's too late WPK, now I got confirmed town by two people, three if you count Remchu.

Your weirdness earlier is less fishy given that the committee lied to us about their check, which wasn't helped by Usopp suspecting you for similar reasons despite knowing the truth, and that you knew the truth.

So you've been downgraded to a lower tier of tinfoil

 

[Sigismund]

Concept of a survivor role is new to you?

=0 has the thought ever crossed your mind that the abilities reflect said character.

\yawn

Some high level stuff I'm saying here right?

Survivor roles usually have tools to help them survive, like a one shot bulletproof vest, etc. An one shot mason/role reveal to another random person pre day 1 really isn't a tool to help you survive much, and makes little sense for an indie.
Let alone that Survivor roles are usually spurned by the hosts on NF. I dont doubt some could work but I do highly doubt someone would just make a weaker than vanilla survivor role, in a light RM game. Also again dodging the wincon question.
I'm more leaning that you're a jester witha mason ability for some reason that needs to be bigger more than anything else.
I dont care about character fluff shit, and if this is true, and someone actually likes that character they have shit taste or Nitty hates that character and drew them a massive shortstick.

Do any of the listed characters possibly line up at all with RemChu's claim?

Its a massive stretch but maybe maybe Daria.
If he is lying about his abilities, and Kue recieved a fake role or isn't telling us everything he could possibly be Antigone.
I dont see anyother characters fitting that

 

[Magic]

Your weirdness earlier is less fishy given that the committee lied to us about their check, which wasn't helped by Usopp suspecting you for similar reasons despite knowing the truth, and that you knew the truth.

So you've been downgraded to a lower tier of tinfoil

I did tell kue the truth on who we investigated so he can better use his tracking thing.

That's it. Others weren't aware.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

I love how everyone thinks scum!WPK puts in so much effort, it's really flattering if not close to the reality

 

[Magic]

Survivor roles usually have tools to help them survive, like a one shot bulletproof vest, etc. An one shot mason/role reveal to another random person pre day 1 really isn't a tool to help you survive much, and makes little sense for an indie.
Let alone that Survivor roles are usually spurned by the hosts on NF. I dont doubt some could work but I do highly doubt someone would just make a weaker than vanilla survivor role, in a light RM game. Also again dodging the wincon question.
I'm more leaning that you're a jester witha mason ability for some reason that needs to be bigger more than anything else.
I dont care about character fluff shit, and if this is true, and someone actually likes that character they have shit taste or Nitty hates that character and drew them a massive shortstick.

Its a massive stretch but maybe maybe Daria.
If he is lying about his abilities, and Kue recieved a fake role or isn't telling us everything he could possibly be Antigone.
I dont see anyother characters fitting that

Pretty sure she likes the character. Why does everything have to be overly complicated?

I can still talk. That's enough imo.

 

[Kue]

I've gotten cleared by three people already and I'm clearing Remchu.

There's a fine line between paranoia and trying to cause confusion for town.

 

[Magic]

I've gotten cleared by three people already and I'm clearing Remchu.

There's a fine line between paranoia and trying to cause confusion for town.

Autism yo

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Autism yo

 

[Katsuargi]

Hm. The hostility to a bit of idle pressure while waiting for the round to close out actually moves them up my sus list a bit.

Not enough to really bother with now, but putting a pin in it for later rounds.

 

[Magic]

Hm. The hostility to a bit of idle pressure while waiting for the round to close out actually moves them up my sus list a bit.

Not enough to really bother with now, but putting a pin in it for later rounds.

I must be up to something.

 

[Magic]

Get back to ur scum hunting lol. Sorry if I prove too interesting of a distraction. Good night for real.

 

[Kue]

I must be up to something.

We're either talking to clown town or desperate scum at this very moment.

 

[Shizune]

Autism yo

Whoa, not cool. When you say things like this, you encourage people with autism to internalize negative things about themselves. The vast majority of bad mafia players don’t have autism; I doubt there’s any link between bad mafia players and autism. I know you said this jokingly, but jokes like this can make people feel bad about themselves.

 

[Magic]

Dude I prob have autism.
It's not that bad.

 

[Shizune]

Dude I prob have autism.
It's not that bad.

I’m not even going to ask what “probably have autism” means. Please don’t throw around autism as an insult in my games. I consider it to be the same as using slurs.

 

[Kue]

Kvothe asking that question about Remchu was questionable but she seems to be caught up to speed, it feels this day phase is dragging on now.

 

[Ekkologix]

Neutral

imagine lol

I haven't gotten too much of a read on WPK yet, and if he is town, executing him here is a complete waste, and doing scums job for them.
However, the fact that Odd claims to have kill AM, something I highly doubt scum Odd would do, leads to the inference that mafia was either roleblocked or caught a person who was protected/was bulletproof. Katsu claims, if I read correctly, that this ability was activated last night and should have roleblocked WPK.
This could all be just sheer coincidence and conjecture, Odd could just be going all in and doing some weird "openly scum because no one would take that seriously"/covering for another scum/ballsy jester play, the only vig we killed and Katsu hit WPK. I just find that scenario unlikely. The idea WPK is mafia and got RBed is far more likely, but so is the idea that scum hit bulletproof and WPK is town. I dont know which is more likely between the two and do not have my own read on WPK, so I'm going to wait for more to come out before I vote.


Your Alignment says neutral?

btw u have to decide on WPK today u know, like GTH do u scum read him or not
if not then what about odd

i say we yeet odd or vote him up honestly. dont like him at all

 

[Ekkologix]

We see each others role before the game started.

is this mason chat or neighbored chat?

 

[Kue]

imagine lol


btw u have to decide on WPK today u know, like GTH do u scum read him or not
if not then what about odd

i say we yeet odd or vote him up honestly. dont like him at all

I don't know if you have realized, but we're still waiting for Cata to get lynched.

 

[Kue]

is this mason chat or neighbored chat?

Mason

 

[Ekkologix]

anyway guys wanna CFD odd or stack couple votes on him

[vote lynch odd]

i dont see resistance to cata at all

like cata is scummy asfk individually, but idk who could be her teammate here

unless u think odd is trying to direct attention from cata to himself since hes a tankier role?

eitherway i scum read them both and wouldnt mind a wagon on odd

get to work ningens

 

[Ekkologix]

I don't know if you have realized, but we're still waiting for Cata to get lynched.

which is why i said earlier days r too long man game is getting boring

we seem to be fixated on one thing and it seemes not even cata is resisting it

lets stir up some sht with an odd wagon

 

[Kue]

anyway guys wanna CFD odd or stack couple votes on him

[vote lynch odd]

i dont see resistance to cata at all

like cata is scummy asfk individually, but idk who could be her teammate here

unless u think odd is trying to direct attention from cata to himself since hes a tankier role?

eitherway i scum read them both and wouldnt mind a wagon on odd

get to work ningens

Why do you want to CFD when we got someone who got lie detected as scum?

 

[Ekkologix]

Mason

im sure u wud say that

well if hes an indie it automatically is technically not mason lol

 

[Kue]

Not sure about the Oddjutsu lynch after Hero cleared him, let's see if Oddjutsu and Hero actually help town after clearing each other.

 

[Kue]

im sure u wud say that

well if hes an indie it automatically is technically not mason lol

To me neighbor gets to pick who joins the chat with them, mason is designated.

 

[Ekkologix]

Why do you want to CFD when we got someone who got lie detected as scum?

2nd wagon

also if someone has ability like the one used on WPK or hero can they do it on odd tonight?

lets speed up the game, chop chop

 

[Kue]

Well, Remchu chose me, so it is a neighbor ability.

 

[Kue]

2nd wagon

also if someone has ability like the one used on WPK or hero can they do it on odd tonight?

lets speed up the game, chop chop

Hero cleared Odd, which would imply that they are on the same scum team together.

 

[Ekkologix]

Not sure about the Oddjutsu lynch after Hero cleared him, let's see if Oddjutsu and Hero actually help town after clearing each other.

and why is hero's clear even considered a valid clear?

how lenient are u kue?

really now?

i dont even town read hero individually. has he actually done anything to the game

 

[Kue]

and why is hero's clear even considered a valid clear?

how lenient are u kue?

really now?

i dont even town read hero individually. has he actually done anything to the game

It's not a hard clear, but I think there are better lynch targets.

 

[Kue]

Anyways, people here really need to learn the difference between soft clears and hard clears.

 

[Ekkologix]

Hero cleared Odd, which would imply that they are on the same scum team together.

or he coulda just got an innocent result on him or smthing

its very weird why would hero target odd anyway, has there been any interaction between them day 1?

this kinda analysis is missen on the thread and it feels every1 is just hard clearing ppl left and right with no basis

 

[Kue]

You know this might come off as if you are trying to save Cata by using some kind of voting ability right?

 

[Kue]

or he coulda just got an innocent result on him or smthing

its very weird why would hero target odd anyway, has there been any interaction between them day 1?

this kinda analysis is missen on the thread and it feels every1 is just hard clearing ppl left and right with no basis

It's a soft clear.

 

[Ekkologix]

It's not a hard clear, but I think there are better lynch targets.

odd hero JW shud be vigged/yeeted.
i dont even believe both our watchers.
im going mostly based on reads until we get a proper scum flip, before that i see most of this clearing as almost worthless.

Anyways, people here really need to learn the difference between soft clears and hard clears.

well first off u probably need to stop putting them all in the same list then lol

 

[Kue]

I think JW is a better lynch but I'm not sure if we need a CFD.

JW and Odd don't give a shit about pressure either.

 

[Ekkologix]

You know this might come off as if you are trying to save Cata by using some kind of voting ability right?

i dont have any, what makes u think so?

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

or he coulda just got an innocent result on him or smthing

its very weird why would hero target odd anyway, has there been any interaction between them day 1?

this kinda analysis is missen on the thread and it feels every1 is just hard clearing ppl left and right with no basis

From how Hero described their ability, they didn't target Odd. They learned either by targeting the write-up or through some passive ability that the killer was Innocent.

 

[Ekkologix]

I think JW is a better lynch but I'm not sure if we need a CFD.

JW and Odd don't give a shit about pressure either.

sm1 vig them or do the same thing that was done on hero/WPK on them

 

[Kue]

i dont have any, what makes u think so?

I don't think so, but this CFD attempt might be used against you.

 

[Ekkologix]

I don't think so, but this CFD attempt might be used against you.

what else u suggest doing, just waiting?

we can always flip flop votes from one to another and go bk

i am not a fan of boring wagons like this

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

I think having a second significantly smaller wagon is a good idea, but I don't think it should be Odd. John Wayne or FP are better choices.

[Change Vote John Wayne]

 

[Ekkologix]

anyway im gna probably pull out a pro gamer move tonight

 

[Kue]

what else u suggest doing, just waiting?

we can always flip flop votes from one to another and go bk

i am not a fan of boring wagons like this

Yup, just wait.

 

[Kue]

If you want a second wagon I would choose JW, but I'm not switching my vote.

I don't think the pressure will do anything though.

 

[Ekkologix]

If you want a second wagon I would choose JW, but I'm not switching my vote.

I don't think the pressure will do anything though.

if its a half assed wagon it wont do anything yes

need a proper wagon

 

[Ekkologix]

this phase apparently ends at 4 AM my time now so i wont even be awake to see its end

 

[Kue]

if its a half assed wagon it wont do anything yes

need a proper wagon

You were supposed to crack this game open and figure out the scum team when you lied about the committee results, is this actually going to do anything?

 

[Ekkologix]

also since kvothe caught up we might as well

[vote end day]

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

If you want a second wagon I would choose JW, but I'm not switching my vote.

I don't think the pressure will do anything though.

Not about pressure, there just happens to be abilities that appeared in past NF games that can cause the lynch to switch to the second highest wagon. If such an ability is in the game, we need to defend against it screwing us over.

 

[Ekkologix]

You were supposed to crack this game open and figure out the scum team when you lied about the committee results, is this actually going to do anything?

well it helped figure out sin is like 90% innocent based on his reaction and kvothe to it
wouldnt say its a waste

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

From how I remember past Nitty games, there will always be a lynch, so if say the person with the most votes is lynch immune at the time, it moves to the next in line. That's just one way for it to happen.

 

[Ekkologix]

sure JW works too

[vote lynch JW]

another policy vig rn

 

[Ekkologix]

 

[Hero]

sure JW works too

[vote lynch JW]

another policy vig rn

Then vote catamount stupid dummy clown. JW can be vigged by @Oddjutsu

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Kvothe asking that question about Remchu was questionable but she seems to be caught up to speed, it feels this day phase is dragging on now.

the question was not really about remchu but more about the ratios of this game. I don't think there would be more than one non hostile indie in this game so anyone claiming indie going forward should be looked at.

I am caught up yeah.

 

[Flower]

I'm also skeptical about the Cat lynch because she hinted at knowing my invest results, the same thing the Emperor now does. I feel like she would have come out sooner than that had this been a Town ability, though. Which makes me think scum can potentially hijack invest roles, possibly to further their fake claims.

 

[Flower]

Then again, she also said she didn't only visit me, so she might be the messager, too, I don't know...

Just show us the flip .

 

[Flower]

@Kvothe Kingkiller what do you think about this Catamount thingy?

 

[Ekkologix]

ningen im an exile

i cant vote on any main wagon by EoD

like last day

 

[Ekkologix]

the question was not really about remchu but more about the ratios of this game. I don't think there would be more than one non hostile indie in this game so anyone claiming indie going forward should be looked at.

I am caught up yeah.

if there is a hostile indie then odd looks even worst lol

a vig already died so if odd is rly another vig then we r missing 2 night kills lmfao

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Then again, she also said she didn't only visit me, so she might be the messager, too, I don't know...

Just show us the flip .

@Kvothe Kingkiller what do you think about this Catamount thingy?

did she say she didn't visit you? Cause siggy said he saw cata visit you right?

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

This lynch seems like there was no resistance tbh pretty similar to the xadlin's lynch (to the point people were calling for an end day early)

Either scum is bussing her or they have some plans with the lynch (redirect, immunity, failing, etc?)

 

[Flower]

did she say she didn't visit you? Cause siggy said he saw cata visit you right?

She first said not only me.

Then she said she knows my invest results.


So she could either be the messager who sent messages to three people or the Emperor person who receives copies of my results.

 

[Ekkologix]

This lynch seems like there was no resistance tbh pretty similar to the xadlin's lynch (to the point people were calling for an end day early)

Either scum is bussing her or they have some plans with the lynch (redirect, immunity, failing, etc?)

well she is far more outed than xadlin so its understandable none wud defend her

she isnt even defending herself

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

if there is a hostile indie then odd looks even worst lol

a vig already died so if odd is rly another vig then we r missing 2 night kills lmfao

I'm thinking you're the hostile indie