Game Women In Fiction (mafia+indie win!)

[Catamount]

Tbh RemChu's avatar already deeply worries me and I avoiding direct eye contact.

 

[Catamount]

I’m not sure how to feel about this list apart from maybe Ussop and Remchu. Dunya seems sincere but I’m not familiar with them at all. A lot of conflicting thoughts on Cypher. Has AM even posted yet?

Expect him to appear with a random historical fact and a song from 80s in the last hour

 

[Magic]

Oh my. Are you forgetting your speaking to the king of this land? I’m afraid I’ll have to pull out my baton.

Sorry sir.

=0 meant to quote Catamount.

Guessing it's that role that gets to see all the investigations of his police. Some police may be insane etc. (Speculation)

There's a generic role like that. Maybe it's based off that?

This is all speculation by the way I didn't get a change to my role as of yet

 

[Magic]

Tbh RemChu's avatar already deeply worries me and I avoiding direct eye contact.

Look into my eyes. You can believe me.

 

[Magic]

*trust me

 

[Magic]

Oh wait. Or commander role. He gets to pick the action of his policd. Or let them do it.


Looooong time ago I was making a game and saw a role like that. =0

(all speculation)

 

[Hayumi]

I think it’s relatively easy to figure out who this commander person is based off soft hints but I won’t touch on that any further. All this did was lock town two people for me. I’m also going to take into account some bullfuckery but it helps me with PoE for lynching this dp at the very least.

 

[Catamount]

Sorry sir.

=0 meant to quote Catamount.

Don't back down, Hayumi already has a baton out.






I think it might be some kind of tracking of the abilities used. Or maybe a redirection. But I would rather assume something passive like tracking.

 

[Magic]

Don't back down, Hayumi already has a baton out.






I think it might be some kind of tracking of the abilities used. Or maybe a redirection. But I would rather assume something passive like tracking.

Agree.

Redirection possible. :0

 

[Catamount]

I think it’s relatively easy to figure out who this commander person is based off soft hints but I won’t touch on that any further. All this did was lock town two people for me. I’m also going to take into account some bullfuckery but it helps me with PoE for lynching this dp at the very least.

I tried to look at this as townie confirming townies, but I cannot really see it unless certain choices where mechanic-demanded. So far I just don't think it is an offensive kind of ability so there is yet time to figure out its point once it shows any notable to the whole thread result, I guess.

 

[Hayumi]

I tried to look at this as townie confirming townies, but I cannot really see it unless certain choices where mechanic-demanded. So far I just don't think it is an offensive kind of ability so there is yet time to figure out its point once it shows any notable to the whole thread result, I guess.

Yah I’m not trying to say that all the people in the committee are town cleared or even town leans by any means.

 

[Oddjutsu]

I am hungry

 

[Juan]

> 330 posts already

wew

i'll catch up after dinner

 

[Oddjutsu]

> 330 posts already

wew

i'll catch up after dinner

Give me your dinner

 

[Alwaysmind]

I’m not sure how to feel about this list apart from maybe Ussop and Remchu. Dunya seems sincere but I’m not familiar with them at all. A lot of conflicting thoughts on Cypher. Has AM even posted yet?

I thought I did but I got distracted by Gwent and hockey.

 

[Juan]

@Hayumi has been revealed as Artoria Pendragon, the once and future king!​

bruh

 

[Oddjutsu]

Okay, this will be a weird request, but as the game goes on, also please vote who you think is the strongest town read.

Maybe something like [Town Read X] but don't choose me because it won't be useful.

[Vote Lynch John Wayne]

I'll switch votes if JW helps me track the town read votes as well.

Okay never mind, we don't need to do the town read vote thing, but if you guys want to keep it that's cool.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Why did you abandon the voting for town reads idea right after the IC reveal?

 

[Juan]

anyway instead of me

how sure r u guys that hayumi's reveal is not just fake

yeah nah that's a bastard pull and nitty doesn't do unannounced bastard games

 

[Alwaysmind]

@Hayumi has been revealed as Artoria Pendragon, the once and future king!​

At least we won't be distracted by a false hayumi lynch

 

[Juan]

[Vote Lynch Usopp]

Also I'm a miller.

lmao

this is fun

 

[Alwaysmind]

The city has opened a Committee for Police Officers! The following players have been appointed to this committee:

@Alwaysmind
@Go D. Usopp
@RemChu
@Cypher
@dunya
@Hayumi

Congratulations to our new law enforcement officials!​

Expect him to appear with a random historical fact and a song from 80s in the last hour

Ask and you shall receive!

 

[Alwaysmind]

I am hungry

Will go eat then.

 

[Juan]

maybe cooler

but you're voting him

what gives?

 

[Juan]

The city has opened a Committee for Police Officers! The following players have been appointed to this committee:

@Alwaysmind
@Go D. Usopp
@RemChu
@Cypher
@dunya
@Hayumi

Congratulations to our new law enforcement officials!​

what the fuck

why not me?

this is rigged

 

[Juan]

Give me your dinner

you will have to pry it out of my churning, full of acid stomach

 

[Juan]

wow this place died

 

[Juan]

i think dunya and hayumi are town

i'd vote usopp out before cooler

 

[Juan]

now, i gave some reads, can we talk now?

 

[Alwaysmind]

wow this place died

what do you mean?

 

[Alwaysmind]

now, i gave some reads, can we talk now?

[VOte lynch Juan]

The ball is in your court now.

 

[Alwaysmind]

Lmao went to the theater to see Mortal Kombat

Is that all you have to saw jester scum?

 

[Ekkologix]

k i have some time now reading

 

[Ekkologix]

Announcement

The opening posts are now complete. In those posts, you will find all kinds of important information about the terminology I use, the way I process actions, and the game rules. I want to draw special attention to three things:

1. There are posthumous abilities in this game, such as resurrections. Accordingly, do not discuss this game with anyone after you die, or participate in any "dead chats." You never know when you might be allowed reentry into the game thread.

2. I'm changing the way I handle superkills. Many of you know me for my simple kill system, where superkills are usually unstoppable. Well, I'm making superkills a little more stoppable. Superkills may now be stopped by combining a protective ability and a roleblock. If you roleblock the superkiller while also protecting their victim, then the superkill will be stopped. Stacking roleblocks or protections will not work; it must be a combined roleblock on the killer and protection on their victim.

3. I'm also changing the way I handle submitted roles. In my previous submission-based games, I would prevent people from rolling their own submission. I'm no longer doing that. Players may be playing their own submission.

I believe these changes will help improve the game. Let me know if you have any questions.​

i had my character last time but was scum
if u remember perona was my submission

nitty seems to let scum choose whichever one of the roles they want so if sm1 has their character, its a pretty big chance they r scum tbh

 

[Ekkologix]

now i havent read everything yet but have u guys talked about how many scum can be here?

since we got revives n sht its probably safe to assume 5 scum in the game or even 6 actually

if town can revive townies then scum will get cucked hard

also maybe there is an SK. i have a feeling the nights will be bloody lol

 

[Ekkologix]

Bro I literally popped in to vote Usopp and let people know I was a miller. Wasn't expecting Usopp to have already claimed miller lol.

I'm really busy tomorrow but will try to find time to contribute and look at those people.

coincidence???

i think not

 

[Ekkologix]

I‘m not gonna argue with him. He always votes me up and if I argue with him, it can waste a day which usually ends with either of us getting lynched, the other getting vigged or tunneled on the next day and wastes valuable time.

But he never learns that tunneling me all game ain‘t the best thing to do .

except u said same thing in aries game and flipped scum lol
i expect u to change that play style

and this emote too

Yea, the majority of players here when they get scum get super passive.

Power wolfing is really rare here nowadays.

its pretty pathetic honestly for scum to just coast it out and wait for town to destroy each others
and its more pathetic that it actually works sometimes cuz town tend to focus more on the active players than inactive ones

Usopp sometimes reminds me of Palm from Hunter x Hunter.

He had his Gon, but now he has moved on to Knov.

im pariston

maybe mixed with leoreo

 

[Ekkologix]

The city has opened a Committee for Police Officers! The following players have been appointed to this committee:

@Alwaysmind
@Go D. Usopp
@RemChu
@Cypher
@dunya
@Hayumi

Congratulations to our new law enforcement officials!​

is this an ability or something started by nitty like the red ajah neighbouring thingy if u guys recall from WoT game

anyway why is kue not in the list?

i dont think every1 here is town, specially if nitty is the one to start this list. we r currently in a neighbouring chat and we have some sort of a group ability similar to red ajah, but we can only talk at night it seems like

imo we shud be more transparent with this stuff since im sure scum already knows about it (im like 99% sure we have atleast 1 scum rat among us).

heck why is AM even added here, unless hes the user ofc

 

[Ekkologix]

[vote lynch @WolfPrinceKiba ]

yeet this guy, hes scum

 

[Ekkologix]

we can also lynch from the ppl inside this cop ability

whose ur top scum read in it?

calling dibs on dunya or cypher

 

[Ekkologix]

game name "women in fiction"

inb4 all mafia r actually women

 

[Ekkologix]

@Hero we havent forgotton about u too bb wya?

 

[Ekkologix]

I'm here to power town. I'll be town leader day 2.

u can take vice leader position

the leader one is filled

 

[Ekkologix]

> 330 posts already

wew

i'll catch up after dinner

u scum this game juan?

but you're voting him

what gives?

u can never go wrong with a cooler vote

i think dunya and hayumi are town

i'd vote usopp out before cooler

imagine

 

[Sigismund]

Is that all you have to saw jester scum?

I mean there was a Saw spin off movie in the previews, and I dont need to saw anything rn. I'll let you know when I have too.

Hi @Juan been a while since I've been in a game with you.

 

[Ekkologix]

I was scum like 4 times in a row, but not this time.

why dont u just answer with i am town or no i am not scum

did u rly have to add this "I was scum like 4 times in a row" part?

there is no correlation with how many times in a row u were scum and if u r now or not lol

 

[Hero]

@Hero we havent forgotton about u too bb wya?

I was on a date. I thought about posting, but I’d rather be coherent than drunk and tired. I’m going to sleep.

 

[Alwaysmind]

I was on a date. I thought about posting, but I’d rather be coherent than drunk and tired. I’m going to sleep.

You stood us up for a date?

Dude, you should have explained to your date that you had a mafia game with your best buddies and that today was just not the best date to have dinner.

 

[Alwaysmind]

I'm a sure your date would have understood.

 

[Hero]

You stood us up for a date?

Dude, you should have explained to your date that you had a mafia game with your best buddies and that today was just not the best date to have dinner.

I should have since I didn’t get any ass

 

[Ekkologix]

I was on a date. I thought about posting, but I’d rather be coherent than drunk and tired. I’m going to sleep.

what is this flex
imagine date b4 mafia
could yeet for this

You stood us up for a date?

Dude, you should have explained to your date that you had a mafia game with your best buddies and that today was just not the best date to have dinner.

fax

 

[Ekkologix]

@Kue man ur avi is pretty cool i'm forced to pull out this card

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Miller gambit as scum rarely happens. It would work if you knew all the other roles in play and could reasonable say no one would deduce your lying.

I've seen on other forums the miller come forward and get outright lynched, same with how indies are treated here.

The main reason for scum not to fake claim miller is the chance of a counterclaim by a real miller. Games on most sites don't have two millers, even on NF that is rare but apparently something that's happened in a recent game here going by what others have said? In any case, using how other forums treat millers doesn't make a good case for probability on NF, millers that reveal early on here are usually believed and left alone for awhile.

Mafia. Been awhile.

But you always rand mafia!

i'll be guilty tonight but can be innocent tomorow if i want

i can be guilty every night and make someone guilty with me, but that would come with a benefit to both of us

at the cost of making us appear guilty

This checks out with how Nitty creates roles, and while I know that Usopp is pretty creative so feasibly could make up something plausible, just seems like too much work for a claim under no pressure other than their normal propensity to get themselves lynched early.

Baiting Melkor to ask more about your abilities is so 2020

Do you think Melkor is scummy for it here?

I was scum like 4 times in a row, but not this time.

Scum tend to be overly verbose when saying they're not scum, and this definitely fits the bill. A guilty mind cares about putting forward how statistically improbable it is for them to be scum.

[Vote Lynch Lord Melkor]

anyway instead of me

how sure r u guys that hayumi's reveal is not just fake

Nitty isn't into doing bastard mechanics unannounced.

I have only bookmarked suspicious posts so far, including not trusting Hayumi, yall be throwing town reads around like used napkins

You should share your suspicions with the class, keeping them hidden in your journal does not help advance the game state.

You have appeared in a host's writeup, that is all

See above.

I love role-playing and all that, but.

Keep town read? Melkor?
Pls tell me not Cypher too.

They appeared in a write-up near game start with their role name being in town's color, classic IC mechanics for Nitty's games.

Sorry I mixed up you and Vivo. You didn't mention being sus of me until I became sus of you, but I am not going to push for you if Remchu thinks you are town.

Remchu's reads are not infallible, and there isn't a good reason to trust him this much early on.

True, but it's important we get a town core going and me questioning Hayumi the whole time will make that harder. If I strongly disagree with a read I'll speak up.

Remchu didn't post his scum tell.

Personal scum tells aren't a trustworthy measure for alignment, how many games have you actually played with Remchu? He may not play as much nowadays, but he is a very good player as both alignments.

they are

btw im ekkologix from the AB game

good to see u here

I thought that was you signing up to spec the Champs practice game on MU.

i wish i was IC

IC role is cursed on NF.

This response seems kinda fake/faux outrage and I think why most people are suspecting her I guess.

I did like her jumping in to clarify the possibility of there being 2 millers instead of staying out of it so the attention would go to Usopp/Cooler or even me for making that miller comment.

Like, scum would want to plant seeds of doubt on players away from them or their team instead of jumping in to clarify things that might just be potential misunderstandings.

This shows some actual thought put into reading Cypher, enough that I'm quite sure that Vivo isn't just mafia white knighting a townie. Vivo/Cypher is either wolf/wolf or town/town.

 

[Ekkologix]

hey look WPK did his scum tell 500 quote post then dip!!

but he scum reads melkor too tho which is making me conflicted here

 

[Ekkologix]

also ya its me signing up for spec chat lol

ekkologix is what i was known by b4 go d. usopp

 

[Ekkologix]

[vote lynch @Lord Melkor ]

off to sleep nao

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

hey look WPK did his scum tell 500 quote post then dip!!

but he scum reads melkor too tho which is making me conflicted here

Why would I post more with no responses after mine? I said all I wanted to up to that point.

Good night, techno prince.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

also ya its me signing up for spec chat lol

ekkologix is what i was known by b4 go d. usopp

If you pay close attention maybe you'll learn something

 

[Xadlin]

[Vote Lynch Xadlin].

we can also lynch from the ppl inside this cop ability

whose ur top scum read in it?

calling dibs on dunya or cypher

Finally caught up. Just first day shenanigans. Yet this was the first time someone voted one me day 1.

as long as I don’t become the new cubey, I’ll flatter this one.

else it seems melkors name has showed up as potential wagon. Until I hear some more, imma lay low.

after church I’ll be back again.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Finally caught up. Just first day shenanigans. Yet this was the first time someone voted one me day 1.

as long as I don’t become the new cubey, I’ll flatter this one.

else it seems melkors name has showed up as potential wagon. Until I hear some more, imma lay low.

after church I’ll be back again.

This post has too many words to be this lacking in substance.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

One person random voting you is far and away from being like Cubey back in the day, and it's a weird victim mentality to bring him up in comparison.

 

[Flower]

Finally caught up. Just first day shenanigans. Yet this was the first time someone voted one me day 1.

as long as I don’t become the new cubey, I’ll flatter this one.

else it seems melkors name has showed up as potential wagon. Until I hear some more, imma lay low.

after church I’ll be back again.

Why so concerned about a mere RNG vote ?

 

[Lord Melkor]

I agree but that’s also very one dimensional thinking. As in, there’s a lot of other ways scum could go about it. For example, in a game of this size I’m pretty sure scum would want to defend eachother and deflect from their partner in small ways if possible without being too obvious.

I’m not saying I think that’s what happened here but I also think it would be equally towny for someone to assume that one out of Cooler/Ussop is a liar and push that angle. Because assumptions have to be made either way in a game heavily revolving around pure tonal reads and claims.

In game that size I think most scum would distance especially early on.

now i havent read everything yet but have u guys talked about how many scum can be here?

since we got revives n sht its probably safe to assume 5 scum in the game or even 6 actually

if town can revive townies then scum will get cucked hard

also maybe there is an SK. i have a feeling the nights will be bloody lol

As you should know, Nitty's games usually have small but very powerful mafia teams. I would expect around 4 persons mafia team in game that size, posssibly one indie.

why dont u just answer with i am town or no i am not scum

did u rly have to add this "I was scum like 4 times in a row" part?

there is no correlation with how many times in a row u were scum and if u r now or not lol

Well, it would be pretty funny if I am scum almost every time. Also I see how you are wary of me as I won last few games I was scum.

But I quess it is time to improve my town game now.

I am leaning town on both you and Cooler based on this miller thing. I think it would be a very risky move from Cooler to counterclaim miller as scum and would not fit him.

 

[Lord Melkor]

The main reason for scum not to fake claim miller is the chance of a counterclaim by a real miller. Games on most sites don't have two millers, even on NF that is rare but apparently something that's happened in a recent game here going by what others have said? In any case, using how other forums treat millers doesn't make a good case for probability on NF, millers that reveal early on here are usually believed and left alone for awhile.

But you always rand mafia!

This checks out with how Nitty creates roles, and while I know that Usopp is pretty creative so feasibly could make up something plausible, just seems like too much work for a claim under no pressure other than their normal propensity to get themselves lynched early.

Do you think Melkor is scummy for it here?

Scum tend to be overly verbose when saying they're not scum, and this definitely fits the bill. A guilty mind cares about putting forward how statistically improbable it is for them to be scum.

[Vote Lynch Lord Melkor]

Nitty isn't into doing bastard mechanics unannounced.

You should share your suspicions with the class, keeping them hidden in your journal does not help advance the game state.

They appeared in a write-up near game start with their role name being in town's color, classic IC mechanics for Nitty's games.

Remchu's reads are not infallible, and there isn't a good reason to trust him this much early on.

Personal scum tells aren't a trustworthy measure for alignment, how many games have you actually played with Remchu? He may not play as much nowadays, but he is a very good player as both alignments.

I thought that was you signing up to spec the Champs practice game on MU.

IC role is cursed on NF.



This shows some actual thought put into reading Cypher, enough that I'm quite sure that Vivo isn't just mafia white knighting a townie. Vivo/Cypher is either wolf/wolf or town/town.

Well, true I said "I am town" in a bit verbose way. But I am town indeed, also I have quite a fun role, so propably would not like to be killed early both as town and scum.

You are quite quick with these reads on Vivo and Cypher. Otherwise, not bad points.

 

[Catamount]

else it seems melkors name has showed up as potential wagon. Until I hear some more, imma lay low.

I am not sure I understand the meaning og this part.
What's with Melkor being discussed exactly and what does the lay low mean.
I am either totally missing the meaning of it or it does sound like someone confused the convo this should have been sent to.

 

[Lord Melkor]

I highly doubt two millers are in the game

So who out of Cooler and Usopp do you think is lying? Did you follow this through?

[Vote Lynch Vivo Diez]

 

[Catamount]

Of*

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

Well, true I said "I am town" in a bit verbose way. But I am town indeed, also I have quite a fun role, so propably would not like to be killed early both as town and scum.

You are quite quick with these reads on Vivo and Cypher. Otherwise, not bad points.

Bringing up your role in your defense post is definitely not the way to get me off your back.

I was too quick with the Cypher/Vivo thing as really I only eliminated Vivo scum/Cypher town world. Vivo town/Cypher scum world is still in play.

 

[Oddjutsu]

Xadlin

 

[Flower]

I see not much has happened while I was asleep except the police thingy. Which looks very interesting as a concept.

 

[Lord Melkor]

I see not much has happened while I was asleep except the police thingy. Which looks very interesting as a concept.

Do you think the choice of people was done by a town role?

 

[Catamount]

If you stop using a word "miller" with having in mind generic game setup and size, but just use the host's interpretation having several roles with "confusing" alignments it would make a lot more sense.

The thing is that Usopp said this before Nitty's announcement. Cooler did after. I am often very wary of players claiming they did not read the thread and acting surprised if their "accidental" vote or claim correspond to what is going on it.

But.
Nitty gives you information that there are likely to be several exceptions. From this I make a conclusion there might be at least one such role in each faction (counting independent as a separate faction regardless if there are several of them or what their wincons are).
I do not really want to give scum a pass from a townie on randomly claiming they just appear guilty. But I do want to point out that there can probably also be hostile roles scanning innocent. And I do not really want to add to town paranoia with it. Still, just accept it as a part or the characters' lores in the case of this mafia, cause it is very real. Not sure how it is adding to the town power balance, probably with information gathering abilities.

 

[Flower]

Do you think the choice of people was done by a town role?

I know I‘m Town and nobody there looks particularly scummy, so I guess so.

 

[Catamount]

I know I‘m Town and nobody there looks particularly scummy, so I guess so.

When the least appeared Alwaysmind has not even posted yet fyi

 

[Oddjutsu]

Can everyone write an essay why they‘re Town, please? Like 50 words.

What is this?

 

[Flower]

When the least appeared Alwaysmind has not even posted yet fyi

Your point?

 

[Catamount]

Your point?

Can't look townish or scummish if you have not posted yet while the decision is being made.

 

[Flower]

Can't look townish or scummish if you have not posted yet while the decision is being made.

Yeah. Which is why I don‘t find him scummy yet.

Why are you spreading doubts and paranoia everywhere?

 

[Flower]

Xadlin

What about Xadlin?

 

[Catamount]

Why are you spreading doubts and paranoia everywhere?

It seems, only you got paranoid or doubtful right now, really. You are either missing the point or just feel too pressured from previous conversations you had and go defensive aggressive fast.

 

[Catamount]

If you stop using a word "miller" with having in mind generic game setup and size, but just use the host's interpretation having several roles with "confusing" alignments it would make a lot more sense.

The thing is that Usopp said this before Nitty's announcement. Cooler did after. I am often very wary of players claiming they did not read the thread and acting surprised if their "accidental" vote or claim correspond to what is going on it.

But.
Nitty gives you information that there are likely to be several exceptions. From this I make a conclusion there might be at least one such role in each faction (counting independent as a separate faction regardless if there are several of them or what their wincons are).
I do not really want to give scum a pass from a townie on randomly claiming they just appear guilty. But I do want to point out that there can probably also be hostile roles scanning innocent. And I do not really want to add to town paranoia with it. Still, just accept it as a part or the characters' lores in the case of this mafia, cause it is very real. Not sure how it is adding to the town power balance, probably with information gathering abilities.

I stand corrected, Cooler claimed this before Nitty's announcement and edited opening posts as well.

This removes the point of waiting for it. Both claims definitely do not make the game more fun or challenging but are possible to accept.