Game Women In Fiction (mafia+indie win!)

[Hayumi]

Bruh what? We already have a Town role adding people to a group.

I don’t think he means an actual group. It’s not like we were able to communicate apart form him sending me that one message

 

[Vivo Diez]

I don’t think he means an actual group. It’s not like we were able to communicate apart form him sending me that one message

If you are being held captive, blink twice

 

[Flower]

Would explain why Odd‘s kill was redirected. In this case JW would probably be Town, though, or a death immune scum.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

If you are being held captive, blink twice

are you thinking the same thing im thinking?

 

[Vivo Diez]

Like...having control of the people in the squad? Like manipulating their actions.

Hayumi would know that his actions are being manipulated though right? Unless he can't say and it sort of works like a pseudo cult

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Would explain why Odd‘s kill was redirected. In this case JW would probably be Town, though, or a death immune scum.

why would he be town in this scenario?

 

[Flower]

why would he be town in this scenario?

Because what scum redirects kills to their own team?

 

[Flower]

Unless JW gets a buff through killshots like absorbing them.

 

[Vivo Diez]

are you thinking the same thing im thinking?

I don't think I know enough about the fictional characters in the game to be thinking exactly what you're thinking

 

[Hayumi]

Hayumi would know that his actions are being manipulated though right? Unless he can't say and it sort of works like a pseudo cult

As far as I know he hasn’t done shit with my actions

 

[Flower]

Like a scum equivalent of Xadlin‘s role .

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Unless JW gets a buff through killshots like absorbing them.

Like a scum equivalent of Xadlin‘s role .

maybe he took xadlins passive

 

[Flower]

It‘s just a tinfoil for now, but I fail to see how Odd was killed when Usopp was guarding him, like...how many redirects would Mafia have to have to pull all of that? Quite frankly the only redirect I‘m buying is Odd‘s.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

I don't think I know enough about the fictional characters in the game to be thinking exactly what you're thinking

oh then nvm. im a little conflicted tho. if what usopp who i think he is, i dont think that character is bad tho

 

[Vivo Diez]

It‘s just a tinfoil for now, but I fail to see how Odd was killed when Usopp was guarding him, like...how many redirects would Mafia have to have to pull all of that? Quite frankly the only redirect I‘m buying is Odd‘s.

I guess that's what Usopp thought. if Odd's kill on him was redirected, I doubt he has infinite redirects, so how did Odd get killed even though he was protected? Hence the whole reversal theory with Dunya.

If Usopp isn't lying in the first place.

 

[Vivo Diez]

@Hayumi can Usopp both protect and redirect, or is his protection just in the form of redirects?

 

[Flower]

I can imagine him being Yona. And she gathers all the dragon warriors. Since they are her servants, they do what she says and can‘t decline her orders.

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

I guess that's what Usopp thought. if Odd's kill on him was redirected, I doubt he has infinite redirects, so how did Odd get killed even though he was protected? Hence the whole reversal theory with Dunya.

If Usopp isn't lying in the first place.

its why i wanted to ask hero if he knew odd, juan, or kue's killers what their alignment was

 

[Flower]

And because she‘s an exiled princess and wanted, her team is viewed as criminals as well, so they investigate guilty.

 

[Vivo Diez]

And because she‘s an exiled princess and wanted, her team is viewed as criminals as well, so they investigate guilty.

Usopp is an exiled princess, so befitting

 

[Vivo Diez]

Meanwhile my gender bended char doesn't fit me at all

 

[Flower]

Usopp is an exiled princess, so befitting

It‘s the only flavour I can think of which matches the group thing.

But we already have too many groups for Town:

Cat‘s Enperor Army.
AM‘s Committee...

And a lot of messagers, too. I don‘t see us having another Town group role.

 

[Vivo Diez]

It‘s the only flavour I can think of which matches the group thing.

But we already have too many groups for Town:

Cat‘s Enperor Army.
AM‘s Committee...

And a lot of messagers, too. I don‘t see us having another Town group role.

Knight's chat was Hayumi's ability, that was a temporary group ability

 

[Oddjutsu]

Vigilante is honestly my worst role, I am so bad at it. Pretty sure it's been a massive fail every time I've rolled vig

 

[Flower]

Vigilante is honestly my worst role, I am so bad at it. Pretty sure it's been a massive fail every time I've rolled vig

You shot Usopp and it got redirected to JW, right? Did you learn anything else?

 

[Flower]

Knight's chat was Hayumi's ability, that was a temporary group ability

Yeah, that, too. That‘s three confirmed Town groups.

 

[Vivo Diez]

tbh group abilities can be disadvantageous for town if scum infiltrate, it's a double edged sword

 

[Oddjutsu]

You shot Usopp and it got redirected to JW, right? Did you learn anything else?

I shot Usopp, got told the shot got redirected from Usopp to JW.

That's all I got

 

[Flower]

I shot Usopp, got told the shot got redirected from Usopp to JW.

That's all I got

It said from Usopp, that was the wording?

 

[Catamount]

tbh group abilities can be disadvantageous for town if scum infiltrate, it's a double edged sword

Mine ability was made specifically for it.

 

[Oddjutsu]

I don't even know why I got told that but it is what I got told

 

[Oddjutsu]

It said from Usopp, that was the wording?

Yep, my shot got redirected from Usopp to JW.

That wording

 

[Flower]

Yep, my shot got redirected from Usopp to JW.

That wording

Yeah, that clearly implies he was redirecting actions from himself to JW.

 

[Vivo Diez]

So why wasn't JW role crushed from Odd's redirected kill

 

[Flower]

So why wasn't JW role crushed from Odd's redirected kill

Because he gets killshots from absorbing kills, I assume. Like Xadlin did, just stronger version.

 

[Vivo Diez]

Also weird thing is, JW wasn't aware that Odd's redirected kill was on him, otherwise he wouldn't have made that claim that after a killshot he's rolecrushed post Cooler trying to super kill him

 

[Oddjutsu]

Yeah, the names Usopp and John Wayne are bolded.

 

[Flower]

And if that‘s the case Mafia can potentially win by next day phase which is why he keeps pushing for Dunya today.

 

[Lord Melkor]

oh then nvm. im a little conflicted tho. if what usopp who i think he is, i dont think that character is bad tho

I do not think characters are alignment indicative in this game, Cersei was town after all.

 

[Flower]

I do not think characters are alignment indicative in this game, Cersei was town after all.

A pro scum Town .

 

[Catamount]

tbh I would not imagine Cersei being town. it has a hilarious potential of being scum godfather with a bunch of hidden counter abilities and massive fuckup of the team game all the time.

 

[Flower]

tbh I would not imagine Cersei being town. it has a hilarious potential of being scum godfather with a bunch of hidden counter abilities and massive fuckup of the team game all the time.

Well, I had a mechanic which fucked up my team, the role matches the flavour perfectly.

 

[Catamount]

don't put it all on the role lmao Cypher get real

 

[Flower]

Yeah, the names Usopp and John Wayne are bolded.

Who would you wanna lynch today?

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

I do not think characters are alignment indicative in this game, Cersei was town after all.

im ngl, im not familiar with most chars. Cersei included cause i dont watch or read got...

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

@Lord Melkor what are your thoughts btw in regards

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

@Lord Melkor what are your thoughts btw in regards

got caught off but in regards to usopp dunya and me?

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

cut*

 

[Juan]

is a hider ever a townie role? i think not. so one of parka/kvothe is absolutely lying

i've seen townie hiders

 

[Flower]

I recommend we gather all the reads and info we have and then decide how to proceed from here.

 

[Flower]

Also weird thing is, JW wasn't aware that Odd's redirected kill was on him, otherwise he wouldn't have made that claim that after a killshot he's rolecrushed post Cooler trying to super kill him

It‘s possible that Odd was just informed and shouldn‘t actually have been. But that‘s angle-shooting.

 

[Lord Melkor]

got caught off but in regards to usopp dunya and me?

You recent posts seem town to me and have genuine feel, though I know well that are you are good at appearing town when mafia. So maybe neutral, slight town lean.

Usopp is a bit of enigma, his role is very elaborate and he was open about it from day one. Could be a an indie.

I do not trust Dunya with some of her posts and ability to supposedely reverse actions of others, which seems scum to me. Biggest scum lean of the three you mentioned.

 

[Flower]

No post in almost 2h...way to go, guys .

 

[Cooler]

I'm here, but I'm also sleepy af after a few beers. What's happening?

 

[Flower]

I'm here, but I'm also sleepy af after a few beers. What's happening?

Parka, Kvothe and dunya shenanigans.
Hayumi revealed Usopp told him something different about his role than he told us in the thread.
Some more things.
And WPK doesn‘t defend himself for some reason.

Actually, just read back...

 

[Lord Melkor]

I think Wpk is a decent lynch, does he hard defend himself as scum?

I am on vacation, can someone please post a vote count?

 

[Cooler]

Parka, Kvothe and dunya shenanigans.
Hayumi revealed Usopp told him something different about his role than he told us in the thread.
Some more things.
And WPK doesn‘t defend himself for some reason.

Actually, just read back...

So Usopp is scum?

 

[Flower]

So Usopp is scum?

Really no clue. If we trust Sigis, then yes since he claimed he didn‘t visit you.

And Hayumi also said Usopp claimed he can either redirect actions on his target or protect a player from a kill. In addition it‘s apparently another group ability like Cat had. I still wonder why tf he apparently protected Odd when he suspected him.

So yeah, his entire story is fucking weird. I just fear it could be a case of too scummy to be scum.

 

[Flower]

But yeah, Odd received the message:

Your kill was redirected from Usopp to John Wayne.

with that wording. So this also makes it seem he redirected actions away from himself to John Wayne.

 

[Cooler]

Really no clue. If we trust Sigis, then yes since he claimed he didn‘t visit you.

And Hayumi also said Usopp claimed he can either redirect actions on his target or protect a player from a kill. In addition it‘s apparently another group ability like Cat had. I still wonder why tf he apparently protected Odd when he suspected him.

So yeah, his entire story is fucking weird. I just fear it could be a case of too scummy to be scum.

Could cfd Usopp lol.

 

[Flower]

Could cfd Usopp lol.

Don‘t look at me. Ghosts have no votes lmfao.

 

[Catamount]

I fade back to the Void

 

[Catamount]

Maybe my girl will pull me from the shadow realm to stop some hearts

 

[Catamount]

Or fuel the cross

 

[Catamount]

Murder everyone

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

And WPK doesn‘t defend himself for some reason.

It's not worth the headache to argue with you guys, banging my head again a brick wall. All you care about are mechanics.

 

[Catamount]

Say, idk what summaries have been used for a character... but having helpers makes sense. To life tap. Ofc they would need to become silths as well.

 

[Catamount]

But then again Cersei.

 

[Catamount]

Whatever, void awaits.

 

[Lord Melkor]

It's not worth the headache to argue with you guys, banging my head again a brick wall. All you care about are mechanics.

What a defeatist attitude. Does not make me less eager to lynch you.

What do you think of Usopp for example?

 

[Lord Melkor]

Murder everyone

Surely scum only? Do not become Crazy Cat Lady.

 

[Kue]

It's not worth the headache to argue with you guys, banging my head again a brick wall. All you care about are mechanics.

Maybe you don't want to defend yourself, but you can propose better lynch candidates.

 

[Catamount]

Surely scum only? Do not become Crazy Cat Lady.

EVERY FUCKING ONE

 

[Catamount]

If someone from town is heavily debuffed and/or loses game equivalent of health AND you know from whom, try making it known. I understand that the crowd is dense as fuck here tho. So probably it is going to be in vain.

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

What a defeatist attitude. Does not make me less eager to lynch you.

What do you think of Usopp for example?

It's a matter of having not enough energy to commit myself to doing heavy reading right now, and lots of multiquote WPK is scum anyways

Usopp is objectively scummy regardless of his alignment, and once he wasn't getting as much of a free pass from his miller claim he started throwing a lot more shade around. He's acting desperately so gun to head I say he's scum of some kind.

 

[Catamount]

Usopp had shit attitude and very weird breakdowns by the end of the phase since day 1. Should have been off-ed just for that. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Lord Melkor]

I think we are getting close to mislynch here, no one did a vote count so far?

 

[Flower]

I think we are getting close to mislynch here, no one did a vote count so far?

Way too many votes on WPK. You can try CFD’ing somebody, but no clue who now.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Way too many votes on WPK. You can try CFD’ing somebody, but no clue who now.

What do you think of JW's claim? I think the consensus was that it is very suspicious, apparently odd night noctor tanking kills etc.

 

[Oddjutsu]

Who would you wanna lynch today?

Have not been paying much attention but Vivo pings me as bad