Vivo Diez
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Still though, if a townie was the one that was redirecting kills from Usopp onto JW, wouldn't they have hinted at this point
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It would have been a way to confirm you for telling the truth with your abilities and Usopp would have been forced to vig according to town, if he didn't he'd get immediately lynched next DP. His reactions to or vig choices alone would have been worth it. Worse case scenario he gets roleblocked or killed which isn't that bad or you get roleblocked or killed, which apparently triggers you being able to vig so that's not that bad either.i didnt ignore it but Usopp is in my poe so no thanks
i targeted wpk
i really dont need to confirm myself tbh. i've survived this long, i'm good.It would have been a way to confirm you for telling the truth with your abilities and Usopp would have been forced to vig according to town, if he didn't he'd get immediately lynched next DP. His reactions to or vig choices alone would have been worth it. Worse case scenario he gets roleblocked or killed which isn't that bad or you get roleblocked or killed, which apparently triggers you being able to vig so that's not that bad either.
yes I grant additional voting power on any wagon I join. I’ll wait to say how much incase any eod fuckery this dp with the votes.@Sigismund @Hayumi @familyparka @dunya @Hero if any of u is town with some unusual vote power on JW wagon you would be able to solve this puzzle for us please
reminds me of the sandwich game ability where I check 2 ppl and see if they're the same alignment. Kue brings up a good point that its a good ability to fake claimAlso @Lord Melkor your claim confused me. Last dp you said you checked sigi and Vivo and found out they were the same alignment. Then this dp you told me you also checked me and them and your result said we were the same? How exactly does that work?
imo idea wasAlso @Lord Melkor your claim confused me. Last dp you said you checked sigi and Vivo and found out they were the same alignment. Then this dp you told me you also checked me and them and your result said we were the same? How exactly does that work?
You think LM is telling the truth?imo idea was
Find out that Vivo and Sig are of the same alignmet(none of them confirmed innocent yet)
Then compare sig or vivo against confirmed innocent like Hayumi to confirm them as innocent
i really dont need to confirm myself tbh. i've survived this long, i'm good.
Also @Lord Melkor your claim confused me. Last dp you said you checked sigi and Vivo and found out they were the same alignment. Then this dp you told me you also checked me and them and your result said we were the same? How exactly does that work?
So you think Katsu is breaking his truth meta for this game?[vote Lynch Katsuragi]
Ok wait so who did you use this on n1?This is ability called "Clash of Kings" i gained when Cersei trained me in politics - check two players each night if they are the same alignment. I used it first on Sigi and Vivo, then on Sigi and Hayumi to gain additional confirmation as pointed out yesterday in the thread, as unlike Vivo and Sigi Hayumi is confirmed townie.
I may learn something from Hero at the end of the day.
Ok wait so who did you use this on n1?
Also do p
I did not have it night 1, gained at the end of day 1.
So you think Katsu is breaking his truth meta for this game?
I just checked again but not exactly. He just claimed innocence which I assume his way of saying he's townDid he say he is town? If so, i will propably change my vote.
The point of having truth meta in mafiaThough i do not understanf
I just checked again but not exactly. He just claimed innocence which I assume his way of saying he's town
There was another user who had a truth meta and he broke it for a game where he was outed as scum.The
The point of having truth meta in mafia![]()
WPK has been forthcoming and his claims are backed up by Nitty's vote count posts. The question remains though is if I believe it to be a scum ability or town ability. No doubt about it he was going to be questioned this phase. So this I don't know yet about WPK.He also admitted to using execute ability, right?
What do you think of Wpk and Dunya?
Just saying this much is dangerous AF. WPK already admited he's the one controling the votes basically, so now he knows to control you specifically. He's basically chosing the lynches at this point.yes I grant additional voting power on any wagon I join. I’ll wait to say how much incase any eod fuckery this dp with the votes.
People blowing all these abilities on me when I don't do anything except switch a vote![]()
Fair. For nowJust saying this much is dangerous AF. WPK already admited he's the one controling the votes basically, so now he knows to control you specifically. He's basically chosing the lynches at this point.
This could actually be super bad.
How is nobody else freaking out about this lol
Your ability reminds me of Lord Genome's ability in the league of legends game (also hosted by the lovely Nitty). He granted +1 vp to anyone that voted with him. It was pretty clutch in getting mafia out.yes I grant additional voting power on any wagon I join. I’ll wait to say how much incase any eod fuckery this dp with the votes.
He said he misread it just +1?WPK also claimed that it would double their vp
[Vote Lynch LM]
Oh did he? I must've missed it since I was skimming through the thread.He said he misread it just +1?
Just saying this much is dangerous AF. WPK already admited he's the one controling the votes basically, so now he knows to control you specifically. He's basically chosing the lynches at this point.
This could actually be super bad.
How is nobody else freaking out about this lol
Just a +1, that was a misread.WPK also claimed that it would double their vp
Just saying this much is dangerous AF. WPK already admited he's the one controling the votes basically, so now he knows to control you specifically. He's basically chosing the lynches at this point.
This could actually be super bad.
How is nobody else freaking out about this lol
Wait so would the number for WPK still have supposedly been 15?
no, he has vote manipulation. we get rid of WPK first.I mean if we have a vig, I feel like we should have them vig WPK and we vote LM today or something.
If the vig fails, we can try again after dunya dies and rolecrushes him.
Then there's the subject of Usopp's execution. Hayumi, I feel like you're one of the people who trust Usopp the most in this game, can you please tell me why you think he's not anti-town?
But as you said, he has a vote manipulation. How are we supposed to get rid of him, if not with a vig?no, he has vote manipulation. we get rid of WPK first.
i just said, vote me instead so i vig shoot him.But as you said, he has a vote manipulation. How are we supposed to get rid of him, if not with a vig?
Great idea, so WPK can change our votes last minute again and decide whoever he wants to lynchi just said, vote me instead so i vig shoot him.
i mean, he can potentially do that if you all vote him too so i'm not sure what your thought process is here.Great idea, so WPK can change our votes last minute again and decide whoever he wants to lynch
If we all vote for him we have enough vote power to contest, even if he switches Hayumi and someone else.i mean, he can potentially do that if you all vote him too so i'm not sure what your thought process is here.
If WPK is scum, wouldn't he just divert the lynch from you to someone else?i just said, vote me instead so i vig shoot him.
Exactly my pointIf WPK is scum, wouldn't he just divert the lynch from you to someone else?
basically tell evryone if they're not on WPK they're openwolfingI just checked, there's 13 players alive.
WPK changed the votes of 2 people last Day, so let's assume that's the reach of his ability. He also apparently +1s their votes. So in summary WPK's vote power is:
WPK: 1 +1 (Hayumi?)
Hayumi: 1 +1 (WPK)
Any other vote changed by WPK: 1+1+1 (Hayumi? + WPK)
That means WPK essentially has a vote power of 7, and he vote silences two people in the process.
That means that we still have 10 other voters.
We have enough vote power, but we all have to be on the same page. Which I find extremely difficult.
if WPK is scum, couldn't he just divert the yeet from himself to someone else?If WPK is scum, wouldn't he just divert the lynch from you to someone else?
The answer to both of those questions is: If 11-13 people are voting for him/you, then no, he doesn't have enough vote power to counter that lynch. That is, assuming Hayumi's vote power boost works as you guys explained.if WPK is scum, couldn't he just divert the yeet from himself to someone else?
ive never lasted this long in an NF game, scum are scared of killing me which makes me feel my poe is pretty accurate...that's my problem here.If you're town dunya, which you probably are, it's no good for two townies to go down here. We can only hope Usopp is a scum hit, and that without this obsession with me town can get their heads out of their asses enough to win this. Paranoia on me is at max.
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But as you said, he has a vote manipulation. How are we supposed to get rid of him, if not with a vig?
I feel like the game would be over and nitty would call it if this is fact tbhYou really think scum would have vote manipulation so strong that it could control the Lynch several days in the row?
i feel like the yeet is town's strongest weapon and NKs are mafia's strongest weapons. giving mafia this much control over day yeets already feels scum sided tbhI feel like the game would be over and nitty would call it if this is fact tbh
Well I'm not scum, and Nitty is good at balancing vote manipulation giving both sides powers. It's just when townies reveal how their abilities work all willy-nilly that scum might be able to wrest control enough to sway lynches.i feel like the yeet is town's strongest weapon and NKs are mafia's strongest weapons. giving mafia this much control over day yeets already feels scum sided tbh
yeets aren't meant to be messed with that assuredly
this is also my thought as well and why I particularly lean you as town.ive never lasted this long in an NF game, scum are scared of killing me which makes me feel my poe is pretty accurate...that's my problem here.![]()
I agree, both sides must have vote manipulation powers.Well I'm not scum, and Nitty is good at balancing vote manipulation giving both sides powers. It's just when townies reveal how their abilities work all willy-nilly that scum might be able to wrest control enough to sway lynches.
What's your PoE againive never lasted this long in an NF game, scum are scared of killing me which makes me feel my poe is pretty accurate...that's my problem here.![]()