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Pool Party Nitty said:
Vote count



Catamount - SinRaven
Cooler - Catamount
Cypher - Catamount
Dunya - Cypher
familyparka - Catamount
Usopp - SinRaven
Hayumi - Catamount
Hero - Catamount
Juan - Catamount
Katsuargi - Catamount
Kue - Catamount
Lord Melkor - Catamount
Sigismund - Catamount
Vivo Diez - Catamount

Catamount: 11
SinRaven: 2
Cypher: 1

Self votes

John Wayne
Oddjutsu
RemChu
Kvothe​
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That's the mid votecount, JW didn't have a vote on anyone
 
Vivo Diez said:
@WolfPrinceKiba why did you mess with JW's vote during D2? He wasn't voting for anyone anyway.
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JW wagon was a secondary just in case wagon, and I didn't know where his vote was at the time. I just made sure it was on himself, as that provides a vote that otherwise usually wouldn't be there. You don't always know who will vote where, but people usually don't vote themselves.
Go D. Usopp said:
this is god awful
why r u executing me when u know im not part of the scum team
aka your team?

yeeting u or LM is inevitable at this point, but u guys wanna execute me along as well since im an easy sus
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I don't know anything other than my own alignment. I have some reason to doubt you're part of the mafia team given what interactions I remember, but that doesn't eliminate you as a possible member. On top of that, there's the chance you're hostile indie.
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
I don't know anything other than my own alignment. I have some reason to doubt you're part of the mafia team given what interactions I remember, but that doesn't eliminate you as a possible member. On top of that, there's the chance you're hostile indie.
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like i said my role looks like cult from outside PoV, but its just town

u can see from odd's flip that he is town just fine, and hayumi is just fine after my visit. my targets r not culted.

and im clearly not SK of any kind as can be seen by the night kill count on n1 and n3

ur just vote executing me to get rid of another townie

u literally have no basis of ur "usopp is scum of some kind" theory
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
I was very tempted to move the votes onto you for the lulz, but I resisted the urge. Town's best interests came first :zen
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more like ur team's best interest :maybe

u tried to get town to vote me but failed

if town had voted for me u wuda moved to me instead of JW

but best u could do at that time is yeet the rolecruhsed member JW instead of urself

i can see right through u now WPK, u arent fooling this eye :sgan
 
Vivo Diez said:
Looking back, the poison probably wasn't a faction kill, Xena can already super kill if you use her to faction kill. A delayed superkill from another role wouldn't make sense as an alternative faction kill.
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might be a normal kill then
i dont see a reason why a townie would kill cypher

anyway we dont know if someone is poisoned or not

maybe mafia just failed their kill tonight
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
I told you guys already I have no vote power, this also means I don't show up in vote counts. My only standard ability is to control one vote and move it where I want, the choice I make is reflected in the vote count. My one-shot was to be able to do my standard ability on three people+double each of their voting power which is what happened yesterday.

D1: didn't mess with anyone's vote
D2: made JW vote himself
D3: made JW, dunya and familyparka all vote JW

I had full reign of the lynch essentially, and could have gone hero shooting. JW was just the best choice after everything that came out that day.

Of my actual six voters, some had legit suspicion, but others are trying to hide behind the goddess thing to justify voting me instead of JW, yet I get crucified for deviating early to LM despite thinking both LM and JW were scum that could get got. FP, Vivo, Kat and KV the worst looking for choosing my wagon, as the other three had more motive for choosing me. Kat looking sketchy with their ability used again, but a scum copier is likely enough to not get immediately sent to the scum pile.

Usopp probably isn't part of the scum team but he's scum of some kind.

[Vote Execute]
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Interesting, well yes when you were voting outside of the group you chose lord melkor despite wanting to go john wayne in the previous phase. It didn't look like you were trying (neither was JW either. He didn't even vote) but it seems you had a way to save yourself.

Whatever it may be, there was barely any discussion about the write up and I recall there was another game on WG with this same write up where scum absorbed the role (with one of the scum being the options for the lynch).

I asked cy who she would place her vote and I trusted it along with cooler. Are you dropping the LM suspicion then despite voting for him last phase and he also joined your wagon?
 
Kvothe Kingkiller said:
Interesting, well yes when you were voting outside of the group you chose lord melkor despite wanting to go john wayne in the previous phase. It didn't look like you were trying (neither was JW either. He didn't even vote) but it seems you had a way to save yourself.

Whatever it may be, there was barely any discussion about the write up and I recall there was another game on WG with this same write up where scum absorbed the role (with one of the scum being the options for the lynch).

I asked cy who she would place her vote and I trusted it along with cooler. Are you dropping the LM suspicion then despite voting for him last phase and he also joined your wagon?
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Lord Melkor is still in my suspect list, and might be where I move a vote to today. Whoever I want gone will be made to vote themselves, unless wagons are close between them and an option I don't like.
 
Go D. Usopp said:
is this what i get for being active or what now

this kat straight up lied about his ability being 1 shot or scum clearly copied it to get rid of me

why r u guys playing right along into their plan and executing me

makes no sense
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This is my main hesitation in terms of you being mafia, as Kue flipped town copier so any others are likely scum of some kind. Same thing if it's just Kat lying about it being a one-shot, they'd just be scum then. However, scum want other scum gone, and you come off like hostile indie.
 
Vivo Diez said:
@WolfPrinceKiba looks even worse now for trying choosing to go with LM and not JW early on of the last DP
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Hmm, he does not look great but do you think that scum team would be so imcompetent as to let two wagons being their team without any counterwagons?

Also, i checked that Sigi and Hayumi are the same alignment and night before that Vivo and Sigi are the same alignment. So Vivo and Sigi are either both town or one of them is godfather.

And it seems person doing the faction kill was either roleblocked or their target protected.

Dunya still looks bad to me, did not like her claim and her immediate reaction to claiming track result from Cooler on JW was to vote Cooler.
 
Go D. Usopp said:
i also noticed the same night there was a poison kill, there was the execution thingy telling us to execute WPK

theory then becomes that katsurigi is scum with the execution thingy and also gets a slow poison kill with it

cant tell who that character is tho but its interesting if this happened

LM/Katsu is a possible team, tho i still want WPK yeeted first tbh
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I do not follow this, how was execute connected with the poison according to you?
 
Go D. Usopp said:
is this what i get for being active or what now

this kat straight up lied about his ability being 1 shot or scum clearly copied it to get rid of me

why r u guys playing right along into their plan and executing me

makes no sense
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ehhh hm. I was thinking why scum would want to get rid of you but if anyone was on it i guess they would use set free... you are the most sus after the jw flip because of the redirection claim from odd.

i dont fully trust u tbh, remember the naruto game where i was zetsu? ya now shoes on the other foot :caticon
 
Lord Melkor said:
Hmm, he does not look great but do you think that scum team would be so imcompetent as to let two wagons being their team without any counterwagons?

Also, i checked that Sigi and Hayumi are the same alignment and night before that Vivo and Sigi are the same alignment. So Vivo and Sigi are either both town or one of them is godfather.

And it seems person doing the faction kill was either roleblocked or their target protected.

Dunya still looks bad to me, did not like her claim and her immediate reaction to claiming track result from Cooler on JW was to vote Cooler.
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I don't know why you didn't check dunya with hayumi then if you suspected dunya?
 
Lord Melkor said:
Hmm, he does not look great but do you think that scum team would be so imcompetent as to let two wagons being their team without any counterwagons?

Also, i checked that Sigi and Hayumi are the same alignment and night before that Vivo and Sigi are the same alignment. So Vivo and Sigi are either both town or one of them is godfather.

And it seems person doing the faction kill was either roleblocked or their target protected.

Dunya still looks bad to me, did not like her claim and her immediate reaction to claiming track result from Cooler on JW was to vote Cooler.
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I thought the discussion was quiet for most of the day despite the dead townies being back so I had a strange feeling that maybe wpk is town?

I am still unsure about wpk. Mainly because if there was only 2 scum on the wagon, they would get rid of the one thats rolecrushed. But wpk does get brownie points for sussing JW early too :hm

I also dont quite trust you either. Maybe kue was right that you are trying to claim cop in the event that you actually didn't copy Cypher's ability.... and youre just faking it. .
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
I told you guys already I have no vote power, this also means I don't show up in vote counts. My only standard ability is to control one vote and move it where I want, the choice I make is reflected in the vote count. My one-shot was to be able to do my standard ability on three people+double each of their voting power which is what happened yesterday.

D1: didn't mess with anyone's vote
D2: made JW vote himself
D3: made JW, dunya and familyparka all vote JW

I had full reign of the lynch essentially, and could have gone hero shooting. JW was just the best choice after everything that came out that day.

Of my actual six voters, some had legit suspicion, but others are trying to hide behind the goddess thing to justify voting me instead of JW, yet I get crucified for deviating early to LM despite thinking both LM and JW were scum that could get got. FP, Vivo, Kat and KV the worst looking for choosing my wagon, as the other three had more motive for choosing me. Kat looking sketchy with their ability used again, but a scum copier is likely enough to not get immediately sent to the scum pile.

Usopp probably isn't part of the scum team but he's scum of some kind.

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I had 10 vote power yesterday so I still think you should have been lynched?
 
Kvothe Kingkiller said:
I thought the discussion was quiet for most of the day despite the dead townies being back so I had a strange feeling that maybe wpk is town?

I am still unsure about wpk. Mainly because if there was only 2 scum on the wagon, they would get rid of the one thats rolecrushed. But wpk does get brownie points for sussing JW early too :hm

I also dont quite trust you either. Maybe kue was right that you are trying to claim cop in the event that you actually didn't copy Cypher's ability.... and youre just faking it. .
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Don't think sussing JW early means anything. Could WPK have moved the vote to someone other than JW?

I think LM is scum here as well, between him and WPK again today for me.
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
Lord Melkor is still in my suspect list, and might be where I move a vote to today. Whoever I want gone will be made to vote themselves, unless wagons are close between them and an option I don't like.
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I kind of see why you would think i am scum but i am town. My main ability is to ask for training from a townie each night and if they agree get a new ability based on theirs. I was able to sucessfully use it on Cypher only so far.


Do you have any opinions on Katsuragi and Remchu (apparently mason indie survivor)?
 
Lord Melkor said:
I kind of see why you would think i am scum but i am town. My main ability is to ask for training from a townie each night and if they agree get a new ability based on theirs. I was able to sucessfully use it on Cypher only so far.


Do you have any opinions on Katsuragi and Remchu (apparently mason indie survivor)?
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Kat is trending down because of the trial coming back up, but scum copier is likely given there was a town one. RemChu is on the backburner because there is bigger fish to fry. If Usopp is hostile indie then RemChu becomes a tinfoil possibility.
Lord Melkor said:
Typically in Nitty's games there is at least one scum having abilities to affect votes. If both you and Wpk have it makes Wpk looks worse.

Though it is kind of hard for me
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Nitty also usually has town roles that can mess with votes as well. Mine is very tame without my one-shot.
 
Lord Melkor said:
Why FP over Dunya then? FP was invested as innocent.
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It's easier to explain how a scum FP got invested as innocent, then how dunya behaved around Cypher and their execute. FP is individually scummier than dunya, and FP was making a fuss about how the votes got changed early this phase which may indicate they're annoyed at having the lynch go against their mafia yesterday.
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
If your vote got stolen, it would have had to have been by one of those whose votes I switched. So familyparka or dunya, since JW is dead and his role had no vote stealing ability.

[Vote Lynch familyparka]
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so you assume the vote is stolen and cooler was not vote silenced instead?

nice derail attempt. thought u wanted LM but i see u trying to create another wagon now
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
I pinky promise to only control Cooler's vote if it means saving myself...and if mafia have a vote stealer it may not be worth it. I'll have to make a gamble if FP/dunya stole it again :hmm
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i mean ur almost gna be impossible to lynch at this point

i don't see ur role as town at all
and ur assumptions seem pretty forced rn

ur assuming someone vote steal cooler instead of vote silence and ur assuming everyone on JW wagon had a vote power of 3

u even mentioned that u increase the vote power of those who u swap

the fact that nitty mentioned he had to do the math and tripple check tells me clearly that the votes seemed to be close and JW votes simply out did WPK votes

the math would be easy if coolers votes were stolen, but nitty made it look like the votes were close so he had to triple check
 
Go D. Usopp said:
i mean ur almost gna be impossible to lynch at this point

i don't see ur role as town at all
and ur assumptions seem pretty forced rn

ur assuming someone vote steal cooler instead of vote silence and ur assuming everyone on JW wagon had a vote power of 3

u even mentioned that u increase the vote power of those who u swap

the fact that nitty mentioned he had to do the math and tripple check tells me clearly that the votes seemed to be close and JW votes simply out did WPK votes

the math would be easy if coolers votes were stolen, but nitty made it look like the votes were close so he had to triple check
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im on phone

meant wvery1 on JW wagon had vote ppwr of 1

no idea how that happened LOL
 
Go D. Usopp said:
so you assume the vote is stolen and cooler was not vote silenced instead?

nice derail attempt. thought u wanted LM but i see u trying to create another wagon now
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Fair point on the silence. It could be either, but considering Cooler's been pushing me, I think its more likely a steal over a silence. A silence is more likely to come in late if Cooler isn't voting their way.
 
Cooler said:
We only have your word on who you vote stealed. I could have been role copped at some point too.
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I mean...Nitty's vote counts are there for all to see. Between the first one and the second one, dunya and FP did not change their votes, yet are voting JW instead of me in the final vote count. Other self-votes weren't displayed in the normal vote count, yet JW is shown voting himself because of my ability.

That my ability targeted who it did is fact.
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
So an activated ability like my one-shot? Less likely then that whoever stole your vote power knew it would be so big beforehand.
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Well it was linked to another ability so if I had been role copped scum would know about my vote power too.
Go D. Usopp said:
i find it ods if wpk's team stole coolers vote powr they could of easily moved the votes to me and get me lynched

so they really didnt have to lynch JW if they have 10 vote power
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Unless they wanted credit. JW was basically confirmed scum and lynching anyone else would have basically confirmed WPK as well.
 
Go D. Usopp said:
i find it ods if wpk's team stole coolers vote powr they could of easily moved the votes to me and get me lynched

so they really didnt have to lynch JW if they have 10 vote power
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Vote stolen or vote silenced, without opposing vote fuckery that I knew of, scum!WPK just moves votes to you. If I knew of Cooler's vote power I could also have just moved it as scum to you.

I just don't see how you think I'm paired with JW here. Maybe you need to go back to thinking I'm SK :tomato
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
I mean...Nitty's vote counts are there for all to see. Between the first one and the second one, dunya and FP did not change their votes, yet are voting JW instead of me in the final vote count. Other self-votes weren't displayed in the normal vote count, yet JW is shown voting himself because of my ability.

That my ability targeted who it did is fact.
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ya i can see ur ability's effect

thing is from outside point of view, the wagons looks like 5-7 so JW got lynched

but assuming dunya/parka stole coolers vote, then the wagon would be

5-17

why would @Pool Party Nitty need to tripple check this? this should be a no brainer

unless ur saying hes that bad at math lol




no flame :heart
 
WolfPrinceKiba said:
Vote stolen or vote silenced, without opposing vote fuckery that I knew of, scum!WPK just moves votes to you. If I knew of Cooler's vote power I could also have just moved it as scum to you.

I just don't see how you think I'm paired with JW here. Maybe you need to go back to thinking I'm SK :tomato
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imagine

we dont know how ur ability works

so far u only moved stuff to JW. maybe u r limited to only moving to him for all we know
 
Lord Melkor said:
I kind of see why you would think i am scum but i am town. My main ability is to ask for training from a townie each night and if they agree get a new ability based on theirs. I was able to sucessfully use it on Cypher only so far.


Do you have any opinions on Katsuragi and Remchu (apparently mason indie survivor)?
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did u ask other players and they didnt agree or they were simply not town? how does this work
 
amyway

@Hero who did u target? u probably got roleblocked by the same person that roleblocked dunya n2, or u r simply faking it. we r missing a faction kill here so u kinda look bad but u didnt have a reason to mention being roleblocked so this is good points for u i guess.

@Lord Melkor who are the other targets of ur begger ability thingy? also police chat got innocent on kvothe and parka, and now u r saying hayumi sigis and vivo are all innocent. then who is scum? remchu/dunya/hero/wpk/you are left unchecked, me and cooler are millers.

@Sigismund @Hayumi @familyparka @dunya @Hero if any of u is town with some unusual vote power on JW wagon you would be able to solve this puzzle for us please

WPk could swap votes from him to JW but cooler said he had 10 vote powers so the wagon yesterday should of been 15-7 for WPK instead of 5-7

if none of u got anything then parka/dunya probably scum vote stealer
 
Go D. Usopp said:
amyway

@Hero who did u target? u probably got roleblocked by the same person that roleblocked dunya n2, or u r simply faking it. we r missing a faction kill here so u kinda look bad but u didnt have a reason to mention being roleblocked so this is good points for u i guess.

@Lord Melkor who are the other targets of ur begger ability thingy? also police chat got innocent on kvothe and parka, and now u r saying hayumi sigis and vivo are all innocent. then who is scum? remchu/dunya/hero/wpk/you are left unchecked, me and cooler are millers.

@Sigismund @Hayumi @familyparka @dunya @Hero if any of u is town with some unusual vote power on JW wagon you would be able to solve this puzzle for us please

WPk could swap votes from him to JW but cooler said he had 10 vote powers so the wagon yesterday should of been 15-7 for WPK instead of 5-7

if none of u got anything then parka/dunya probably scum vote stealer
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No extra Vp here
 
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