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I think so, because I would want one member to lead a quest every day, but only ever one.

Rem says I've sided with Sin, despite him being 3rd on my sus list. And either isn't reading my posts or is leaving out any reasons I give for my opinions.
Great!
Now, who were the other party leaders when Dr White died?
Which is more likely: that their parties had no mafia on them or that they themselves are mafia?
Well that could easily be Santi reading the atmosphere of the thread, and preemptively going with that line (Which had been said before and is pretty obvious) in order to not look like an apologist of the king. Also gave him some time to distance from Law (if there is any connection there). It seems weird his one post would make your town read him against all of his other activity/lack of contribution.

Agree on WPK. I'm pretty confident he is scum.

Didi I shouldn't have put on my sus list, he is more null as of the moment (which I explained). Which is why I want mor elive interaction.

This post is missing stuff about Law though
I'm feeling Law up at the moment. See if I can change my original read.
I had a scum read on him Day 1, how he was tunneling iwan and didn't properly hunt until I pointed it out. The other unsettling thing was how easy it was to make him agree with him when I confronted him. He gave up way to easily. I was expecting more of a fight.
Since then I've been trying to see if anyone else had the same feeling as I. The correct cookie answer of the question yesterday was Law.

But now I'm not so confident. Something about the way he wants to die reminds me of Parka somehow. Parka only does that when he's actually town. I know Law is not Parka, but trying to die as mafia is the least thing I would expect from him.
 
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You
Nighty
Prisc

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Degaforce,
Sin
Law


Depending on how Law flips, would cement views on people like UB, etc.
Why is law below sin on your list ?
Like if you are Town he should be confirmed mafia for you lol.
Anyway no one asked but.

Town.
-Katsu
-kiddo
-Didi (Somehow he set me on the right mood as of now)

Mafia
Wpk (He has been acting as a low hanging fruit despite hanging around major suspects, i Just straight up dont like him right now )
Sin (everything About him makes me irk scum)
Nevan (If nevan is not scum im going to send a dick pic to @Shizune )
I think law play was straight up bold and i liked it so he is not top 3 scum material
 
he claimed he doesnt know who killed reznor(so not a sisterhood member) he also claimed not knowing any werewolf aside from Dave who died and he that only after his death he came to know About his werewolf status.
This Cross out mafia and cult
This is assuming there is only a single mafia faction in a 46 player game.

@RemChu wanna talk about why you are suspicions of me? I'm not making any sense to it by my own.
 
This is assuming there is only a single mafia faction in a 46 player game.

@RemChu wanna talk about why you are suspicions of me? I'm not making any sense to it by my own.
you don't think we would have seen another kill by now? We already know there is a pro king faction, a werewolf faction, and a mafia faction. It'd be weird for them to hibernate so long.
 
I'm nearly at a loss for words, but I'll pull myself together for a post that hopefully brings clarity to the current game state, lmfao.

Town is not just losing this game, but losing it brutally thanks to the same people that are trying to lynch Law today.

How deluded are you guys to think the king is gonna listen to any of you? We've taken numerous L's at this point, lmfao.

Look at this list - this is the damage you (and Shizune) caused:
  • MSAL (Peasant)
  • Alwaysmind (Royal Guard)
  • Toxic Saiyan (Peasant)
  • JJCB (Peasant)
  • Guiness (Peasant)
  • Revan Reborn (The Royal Court)
  • dave07 (Werewolf)
  • James (Peasant)
  • Crugyr (Peasant)
  • Thorin (Royal Guard)
  • Acerola (Peasant)
  • Cromer (Peasant)
  • Psychic (Peasant)
  • Lind (Peasant)
  • Reznor (Peasant)
What exactly has been proven in this thread? What progress have we made? Every time I read a post in this thread, 9/10 times I'm thinking "this guy was wrong 10 god damn times in this thread already." None of you are trustworthy and almost everything in this day phase is tinfoil.

The vast majority of people alive are scum or dangerous. To scum reading this post, you are delusional if you think we're going to oust the king and give you and dumb townies full lynch control right now. If the king plays this correctly and the next quests reward well, there is maybe a 20% chance I can pull off some crazy shit and win this game. The king is the only person I'm willing to work with, so, scum, you can either slowly choke us out, or get lucky and kill the king, but we're not ousting him. In any case, I'm gonna make sure this game ends as slowly as possible because I fucking hate losing and it's looking like a loss.

[Vote Lynch Underworld Broker]
 
I'm nearly at a loss for words, but I'll pull myself together for a post that hopefully brings clarity to the current game state, lmfao.

Town is not just losing this game, but losing it brutally thanks to the same people that are trying to lynch Law today.

How deluded are you guys to think the king is gonna listen to any of you? We've taken numerous L's at this point, lmfao.

Look at this list - this is the damage you (and Shizune) caused:

What exactly has been proven in this thread? What progress have we made? Every time I read a post in this thread, 9/10 times I'm thinking "this guy was wrong 10 god damn times in this thread already." None of you are trustworthy and almost everything in this day phase is tinfoil.

The vast majority of people alive are scum or dangerous. To scum reading this post, you are delusional if you think we're going to oust the king and give you and dumb townies full lynch control right now. If the king plays this correctly and the next quests reward well, there is maybe a 20% chance I can pull off some crazy shit and win this game. The king is the only person I'm willing to work with, so, scum, you can either slowly choke us out, or get lucky and kill the king, but we're not ousting him. In any case, I'm gonna make sure this game ends as slowly as possible because I fucking hate losing and it's looking like a loss.

[Vote Lynch Underworld Broker]
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Not what happened. :laugh We cleared her and the king wasn't reading.
Don't recall her ever being "cleared" or you chaing your vote (which I may be wrong on). Also funny how king wasn't reading and made such a glaring mistake if she was "cleared" yet you still fully back him. Topkek. Think you need to train at Weenie Hut Jr's for a hot minute.
 
Don't recall her ever being "cleared" or you chaing your vote (which I may be wrong on). Also funny how king wasn't reading and made such a glaring mistake if she was "cleared" yet you still fully back him. Topkek. Think you need to train at Weenie Hut Jr's for a hot minute.
Read my interaction with her (her only posts), that's her getting cleared.

I'll fully back the king right now, even though he's blundering left and right. What are my alternatives? Listening to you? Or ousting the king and handing over lynch control to mafia? Lmfao.
 
So you want to test my assassination guild theory by lynching Sin but you find me disingenuous?

Isn't that kind of a contradiction?
It's not a theory anymore, it looks pretty clear and evident.
duh, I believe you slipped more info than you should have. Not an uncommon thing for scum to do. Also given how hard Sin defends you, of course I'm looking at you like you have two snake heads.
:drake
 
Dude, I don't need you to win this game, lmfao. It'd be nice, sure, but I don't need you. My understanding of the current game state is beyond your comprehension. I will carry this shit on my back if necessary.
Yeah lmao, listen you may be able to fool a couple of autist around the forum with your undeserved sense of accomplishment and charisma, but that's not the case here :lmao
 
It's not a theory anymore, it looks pretty clear and evident.
duh, I believe you slipped more info than you should have. Not an uncommon thing for scum to do. Also given how hard Sin defends you, of course I'm looking at you like you have two snake heads.
:drake
Dude, you've known me for years. You know what I did was not out of character.
In fact, this is your initial reaction to the "slip":
Interesting theory, but I town read Sin. He is active and helpful. I also recommended him for the quest because of that town read I have of him.

If he turned out being part of this sisterhood group. Oh man. :defeat
Because you subconsciously know me and remember how I play, you didn't find it odd at all.

You hopped on my wagon when it started picking up heat, as the opportunity suited you.
 
Is there any reason you are being a retard today, or are you just in that sort of mood?
Omgsus response to me asking if you are scum?

I died last nightphase (flipping town) and was resurrected in a quest you laker cuck.

You're also playing like scum and blending with the notable couple of post you make every phase with game relevant stuff to blend.

GG no re.
 
Omgsus response to me asking if you are scum?

I died last nightphase (flipping town) and was resurrected in a quest you laker cuck.

You're also playing like scum and blending with the notable couple of post you make every phase with game relevant stuff to blend.

GG no re.

?

You ask me the stupidest question imaginable and get mad at me for getting glib at it.

TBH though I missed if you did rez. I only responded because you @'d me. Been feeling like shit today with a fever, so I haven't followed today's proceedings much.
 
?

You ask me the stupidest question imaginable and get mad at me for getting glib at it.

TBH though I missed if you did rez. I only responded because you @'d me. Been feeling like shit today with a fever, so I haven't followed today's proceedings much.
I asked you if you were scum....Explain to me how that is a stupid question lmao, and explain why your response to that was "are you scum?".

Yeah uh, I kinda died and was brought back...Which is why you got the response you did.

Can you give me your top 3 town and mafia (without me)?
 
Or is 'hey, player x, you scum' your definition of pressuring, and not a retarded question that anyone outside of goose would respond in the negative to?
It's called getting you into the thread and making you respond to a question so I can question/pressure you like I am doing now. Welcome to mafia.

Your defensive attitude is noted though :blobok
 
I asked you if you were scum....Explain to me how that is a stupid question lmao, and explain why your response to that was "are you scum?".

Yeah uh, I kinda died and was brought back...Which is why you got the response you did.

Can you give me your top 3 town and mafia (without me)?

Its a stupid question, because the answer is obvious. Who the hell is ever going to answer that in the affirmative (even if they are scum) outside of Goose? That is the definition of lazy pressuring.

The rez thing I already said I missed, not that I was being serious in that retort anyways.
 
Because it is stupid.

At best you get a terse response that you can make a mountain out of a molehill with... which is exactly what is happening right now.
So you're not gonna give reads, but instead go on this dumb tangent being mad because I'm trying to pressure you anr you're getting mad because of that and because you didn't read the thread for a cycle?
 
So you're not gonna give reads, but instead go on this dumb tangent being mad because I'm trying to pressure you anr you're getting mad because of that and because you didn't read the thread for a cycle?

I'm not really mad that you are trying to pressure me, i'm just amused that you think that saying 'hey bro, you scum?' is actually trying to pressure someone. TBF to you now though, what you are doing is actually pressure, so that's fine.

I already told you I feel like shit, so i'm not going to give you all my reads no. I want to go to bed. I already mentioned in the past that I feel that the most vocal anti-royalists (Iwan, Mohit, etc.) have some sort of clear agenda, and I generally feel that the plan for today is solid, so I have nothing else to say for now.
 
Cause it's hilarious that people are letting you coast, and I don't buy it.

I'm not the only one coasting but the only one you're putting your eyes on lol.

I've been swamped all week and barely catch up every time. I only posted about quests and about overthrowing the King. But I'm cleared now, should be more active from now on.

Voted Mohit because he's the only dude I really know and can get a read on him. He was extremely defensive early on the day phase and started to make things bigger than they are. Seemed sketchy and it's a scum meta I've known him do.
 
I'm not the only one coasting but the only one you're putting your eyes on lol.
clearly not reading if you think that. You have legit done jackshit this game, you aren't just not contributive but have legitimately done 100% nothing this whole game.

I've been swamped all week and barely catch up every time. I only posted about quests and about overthrowing the King. But I'm cleared now, should be more active from now on.
How are you cleared?
 
True, I don't tend to use "homey".

Just curious, but what are you expecting to happen to the king and that indie group if the king gets overthrown ? :hm
No clue. Would hope that they lose and drop out if no new king replaces, for balance sake (as they would most likely just spite town), but then again I wasn't expecting mafia with superkill each phase, so no clue really.
 
> most likely inherently small

Lets hope so.

Killed 1 member of his own court and that's about it. :hm
If there are two factions, why wouldn't peasants have a major majority over the two factions? Why would they be any bigger than potential mafia? How big of you think a kings' court is? I'm not following your questioning or why you're doing it other than defense of court/king?
 
If there are two factions, why wouldn't peasants have a major majority over the two factions?

Where am I saying that isn't the case ? :drake

Why would they be any bigger than potential mafia?

Again, where am I saying anything like that ? :drake

How big of you think a kings' court is?

No clue.

I'm not following your questioning or why you're doing it other than defense of court/king?

> questioning

conversation*

> defense

boredom*
 
Great!
Now, who were the other party leaders when Dr White died?
Which is more likely: that their parties had no mafia on them or that they themselves are mafia?

Dr. White, Stelios, and Katsuargi. I see. Now I need to remember why I had Katsuargi semi-cleared in my head.

The question is, why make a late push to take leadership away from Priscilla? Clearly they weren't going to kill Priscilla that night...so why not just let her be?

Clearly Stelios triggered me by leaping into leadership positions asap and then telling anyone not in his group that they were scummy for choosing smaller groups. I was on Reznor's team Night 1, and I forget whose team I was on Night 2. I remember I went to avenge Shiny's capture (which I now feel was staged for our benefit). I can sense there's something just out of reach, like a missing piece of the puzzle, but I'm tired and it's been a stressful day, so I'm not sure I'll find it in time.


Are you already signed up for a quest?

I'm feeling Law up at the moment. See if I can change my original read.
I had a scum read on him Day 1, how he was tunneling iwan and didn't properly hunt until I pointed it out. The other unsettling thing was how easy it was to make him agree with him when I confronted him. He gave up way to easily. I was expecting more of a fight.
Since then I've been trying to see if anyone else had the same feeling as I. The correct cookie answer of the question yesterday was Law.

But now I'm not so confident. Something about the way he wants to die reminds me of Parka somehow. Parka only does that when he's actually town. I know Law is not Parka, but trying to die as mafia is the least thing I would expect from him.

When it was pointed out to me what iwandesu said, I had to admit that I missed a lot of it while I was fixated. So I backed up, and waited for something else to happen. I may not always admit when I'm wrong, but I don't tend to keep hold of the bone just out of spite. That's why it doesn't rattle me when townies die that I suspected as mafia. When you try and hunt, and you bring as much information as you can to public attention, you will usually be wrong. Then you have to forget about it and keep trying-- a new bone to latch onto. I decided I wanted to not just blend in and play quietly this game, so when I see something scummy, I write it up and put out an APB on it. That's, again, why if I have 6 reads and 3 of them are low-profile, while 3 are highly contributive members with clear answers and good activity...I would much rather push for the low-profile 3 to go first. Because it hurts less when you're wrong.

Once I survived Night 3, and Crugyr died, I decided all at once that you were right. So I immediately started a group and invited players. So let me ask you-- why do you think I would do that?

I made a deal with a spiraling-out-of-control player who I believed to be pro-town. I've seen Nighty do that as town several times, and it stops her from becoming better at the game, because it's as if she sees only red and attacks. And usually it's incorrect, despite how incredibly annoying she gets with her meme behavior about how awesome she is. I saw that in Jalphames back in the day sans memes, as well as AJ with his pure aggression. Part of it is my fault, because I play aggressively and like to manipulate people and events. But I do that as any alignment, because it's literally who I am. Doesn't mean I have bad intentions.

So that deal with Nighty did multiple things-- it calmed her down a bit, and it gave me a time limit to figure things out. I didn't expect to be stone-walled by Kira, Babby, and Stelios, not allowing me to be poisoned. They can't all be mafia, but I'd be shocked if none are. Now I have to defend myself against "he's tricking us because now he knows the poison acts 2 cycles later"-- but I didn't when I made the deal.

So that's not going to happen, despite me bullishly keeping my vote on myself. And multiple people have stated that the King won't lynch me despite me asking him to. So my group may get a chance to go into the Jungle. Then we can see how it goes from there. If I die, I die.

You want to know why I don't mind being dead in this game? Because I've outlived my usefulness as town. That's, at least, how I feel about my performance. I don't often play mafia anymore because I constantly get flashes of impostor syndrome, and I find myself on day 3 or 4 defending my very existence in a game. That is not fun. If I'm alive by now, I must be scum. And I sit here defending the fact that I know how to play this game, and have been playing it for a long time. And why? Because I didn't Blaze or Mio the game on Day 1. I don't play the same way as most, and it makes them extremely uncomfortable.

I wish I'd been mafia, to be honest. It's a lot more fun, and I'm better at it.

Dude, I don't need you to win this game, lmfao. It'd be nice, sure, but I don't need you. My understanding of the current game state is beyond your comprehension. I will carry this shit on my back if necessary.

And THIS is why I voted Underworld Broker when the phase started. I stopped for other reasons later on through the day.

Am I the only one who understands that?

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This is a big game, I'm not sure why people are panicking. This is precisely what happens in a game with a small % of mafia. It's Battleship. Our side is all small boats covering the entire field, so it's nearly impossible for the opponent to miss. Their side has one battleship placed in a random spot. We keep missing until we hit...and then we hit again. And things slowly unravel for them.

But now we have a problem, because according to Didi and Sin, and evidenced by Didi's rundown of events, Nighty is not a cop as she said-- but a member of the King's Court. And then as part of our deal, she vouched for Underworld Broker. Broki later confirmed she was a courtier. You have a believable claim, that was not once even potentially countered all day, despite it being completely brainless not to counter...and yet jayjay is this confident that Broki should be lynched. Why?
 
Without a counter-claim against Nighty and Broki for King's Court, I am putting that aside. This is also assuming that mafia always kill the leader of a group, and only if they're also on the quest. This is by far the most plausible system for this game.

Before I die in a multitude of potential ways and go to bed, here is everything down:


Shiny - The only player left in Reznor's group not town or dead. He killed Reznor.

RemChu or SinRaven - One of them killed Dr. White.

Legend, Waffles, Nevan, novaseline, smileyman - One of them definitely killed Crugyr. This one is tough, because there's 5 potential targets. I would, however, wager that two of them are mafia.

Kira Yagami, Stelios, and Katsuargi - All three have led fair-sized quests without being killed, while Dr. White and Crugyr were killed instead. Would be shocked if at least two weren't mafia.
 

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