Stelios
Life is a dream
tinfoil is not the right word for it
and you're also ignoring the other points that incriminate her
your points are : fluff , gut feeling.
what else you got?
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tinfoil is not the right word for it
and you're also ignoring the other points that incriminate her
oh right i forgot a major point towards evil CC/superman
i feel like we can absolutely rule them out of being kirin tor, which is mostly or entirely comprised of the council of six
because if they were my fellow councilmen, they would have known right away that lynching me was a bad play
other people (like stelios) who argued against me after that reveal are also eliminated from those 5 other roles
so by process of elimination they are statistically less likely to be town than other players
you're ignoring my other points or are illiterate then i guess
also this also constitutes as a defense of melodie fyi![]()
Or maybe the ones going after you are town and are doing it because you are busting their balls.
Warcraft characters are infamous for returning from the grave.
you claimed you are high and mighty
kill him today i don't give two shits
Whatever he flips your pushing on him is ridiculous and childish with zero wifom, no skills involved nothing.
You are just fixated on him. I'm done with you.
As town you should be looking at Franky, which demonstrated opportunistic behavior right after my post.
I believe info lynches are more valuable this game as we might be able to ressurrect anyone who gets mislynched. As the host says in the first post:
Thoughts?
[vote lynch God]
Let's wagon this fool![]()
God's dying apparently according to his VMs![]()
is that all u have to say platmang![]()
Melodie:
-Gut: My intuition indicates she's scum (best reason imo tbh)
-Info lynch: Both Platinum and Stelios have defended her, if she flips mafia these two are worth scrutinizing, especially since one has been largely absent outside of objecting to her lynch and the other has been playing very foolishly.
-Meta reading: She's been very non-participatory, and that's very much in line with her scumplay
-Action coincidence: Every time she has posted, Kel'Thuzad has made an action within that half hour.
How is the coinciding of her appearances with Kel'thuzad's actions retroactive application?
It was talking about the gut and the info lynch points.
The coinciding actions thing is something, but I am never sure how often to trust those things; It relies on the host just as much as the player. How generally quick is Nitty to post actions? Rate them for me 0-10 on the Aries scale of host negligence.
I actually don't remember if I played any previous games hosted by him.
But the fact remains that it happened TWICE is way too coincidal for me.
Even if you discount my gut or the info lynch points, she is still very much on her scum meta.
Wad give me a general rundown so I can post more after my haircut since I've been hella active in your game![]()
Vote count
WAD - Melodie > Katsuargi > Melodie
Nighty - Sin > Hyperion > Evil C.C.
Hyperion - Katsuargi
Sin - Melodie > WAD > Melodie
Legend - Superman
Stelios - Waffles > WAD
Alwaysmind - Melodie
Dr. White - Nello
Katsuargi - Hyperion
hammer - God
Evil C.C. - White Wolf > God
Nello - Waffles > Melodie > unvote > Waffles > God
Melodie - Sin > Nello
Platinum - Alwaysmind
Franky - Alwaysmind
Superman - Nello
DDL - WAD > unvote > Cubey > Stelios
Shark Skin - Evil C.C.
Melodie - 3
God - 3
Nello - 3
Alwaysmind - 2
Evil C.C. - 2
Katsuargi - 1
Superman - 1
WAD - 1
Stelios - 1
Self votes
WPK
God
White Wolf
Dr. White
Hyperion101
Savage
Satsuki
Hero
Oh yeah @Superman no excuses from you either when I flip![]()
I'll take your word on that. I don't know their meta.
Again, i'm not saying Melodie is town or anything, I just feel like their are more valuable targets. An Alwaysmind or Evil CC lynch would tell us more and I feel they are both equally sus.
Are you saying i'm not worth lynching or somethingI am currently voting psychic.
I am not even voting you goob.
Why would they tell us more?
Walk me through it: what does an AM lynch tell us? What does an Evil CC lynch tell us?
Oh and Legend claims condemning info on Superman.
Idk what that means but yesIs your meta usually 'Cubey-lite' Nello?
I thought AM posted more than they actually have, but Evil CC has had interactions with people that might be illuminating if they flip scum.
You claim Melodie is on an apathy/inactifag scum meta. I will assume this is true, since I have no frame of reference. So, if they do flip scum, what does that tell us? Melodie hasn't interacted with anyone; it doesn't really help us with our efforts of rooting out their cohorts. That is why I think vig'ing Melodie and lynching someone else would be a more informative course of action.
Was this a legitimate claim, or a joke claim?
Superman votes for me
Are you saying i'm not worth lynching or something![]()
My mistake, you did suspect me heavily though after the Council of Six writeup.
Superman Psychic isn't in this game
Of course I do. Besides not ever trusting you in a game, I am sure this game is full of subterfuge. And people take things at face value way to easily.
Woops....but now that I have you here are you going to thread mark actions or put them under journal?
[Change vote lynch Shark Skin]
Idk what that means but yes
I have the most consistent meta on the seven seas
Okay. What interactions and how?
Problem 1.
The presumption that Melodie hasn't had any notable interactions TOWARDS anyone does not mean there may be some relationships with others.
You, Stelios, DDL, and Melodie have all discouraged the Melodie lynch to some degree. So all of you are worth scrutiny should she flip scum.
Problem 2.
You directing vigilantes. This is patently scummy. I shouldn't have to explain why.
I did ask him that myself since he and Superman have that sorta spiteful dynamic and he simply said "trust me".
Yes but what I find interesting is you weren't advising wariness/expressing your distrust against me until after the fact
That's nice.Shark Skin has pretty much claimed town...
With Nighty and some other people. I would have to go back and prune the thread later for a more detailed list. My general point is it is easier to extrapolate. Since they weren't the bandwagon, people that went after them hard and people that ignored/defended them... you can get a more general idea of some people's town/anti-town leanings.
True, I guess. Also Melodie discouraged the Melodie lynch!?
Please don't act like people don't tell the vigilantes what to do all the time, including yourself. They are under no obligations to listen to me, but I am allowed to give my view on a better course of action.
So, most likely no.
Which is ignored....every time.
It's easier to extrapolate but you can't even specify on the spot what it means what exactly in the event CC flips town or scum. Seems legit.
Literally when?
Because what I'm starting to interpret is you're trying to funnel a precious resource, of which there might be more than one of, all onto Melodie who might only be killable by lynch or allow you to make preparations as her teammate to mitigate this (Mafia Doctor, bus driver, nexus, etc.)
So, nah. It's not a better course of action.
- Stelios is kind of being dumb. Not sure it is scum play, but it isn't optimal town play.
- I still don't like the Melodie lynch. I haven't played with them enough to know their meta, but it still kind of feels like circular reasoning to come back to the lul day 1 bandwagon vote.
wait
James
of all the people who antagonized me who do u find most sus
-After much argument, Stelios votes Franky and CC votes Cubey
-I soft-hint Council of Six (part of Kirin Tor faction)
Woops....but now that I have you here are you going to thread mark actions or put them under journal?
[Change vote lynch Shark Skin]
Oh and Legend claims condemning info on Superman.
No
Should I?![]()
Wait can you link this
I'll find it but it might take a sec
Insider Scoop, Superman is scum
I can 100% believe it but considering ur history would like a more defined reason as to how u have this information, if you do at all![]()
Im a trustworthy fellow my amigo
Not who targets me, WHAT targets me
I wasn't targeted by anything. So me and Nello must have triggered something. The only thing that makes sense outside of bastard explanations is several post numbers were booby trapped with the plague
Not who targets me, WHAT targets me
I wasn't targeted by anything. So me and Nello must have triggered something. The only thing that makes sense outside of bastard explanations is several post numbers were booby trapped with the plague
[vote Lynch Superman]
I know legends role and it is extremely likely he's being legit
Couldn't the plague be rng as well?
No commentLegend are you trolling or legit![]()
A more feasible possibility is you QUOTED someone
Because ya know, the plague infects on contact
![]()
No comment
i suppose it could but quite the coincidence that it hit the two active posters in the thread?
and even if it was RNG'd, it would still be targeting me...
so i had to have proc'd it myself
Not who targets me, WHAT targets me
I wasn't targeted by anything. So me and Nello must have triggered something. The only thing that makes sense outside of bastard explanations is several post numbers were booby trapped with the plague
Also what does that soft claim (can we really call it that? I'm hard claiming Council but not specifying which member I am) have anything to do with it being more 'tangible' based on my illness (which is, yeah, mod confirmed)
I doubt it cuz it seems like a very easy way to get caught
and the only person i quoted around that time was Stelios
and he's not that kind of plague![]()
"WHAT" targets you as a thing? Like you stepped on a trap? Or a totem came up your ass?
But if there are booby trapped posts and there's no post to indicate that this has been activated
then bastard explanation is the only explanation![]()
Actually now that you disregarded this theory (hinting punishing mechanism) and Nello didn't hint, it is not.
However since Nello confirmed that he's also sick and mod confirmed it for you, you can't be lying therefore you can't be fishing for doctor. Therefore you can't be scum and your clan hint is true![]()
2 people got infected amirite? Look for a common quoted person just incase
2 people got infected amirite? Look for a common quoted person just incase
already did
found nothing
and why are u saying it was 2 people
Something concerning your here? Usually mafia like to point out these kind of rules without any express purpose.
Oh dear
So...immediately jumping to role conclusions, suggesting both a role you don't want to lynch and a role you don't want to target.Jester play
Or Sherrif role
Roleblock him and terminate him
Rather relenting of you.I'll just assume you know better in this case.![]()
I am wondering if all factions are built the same way. Because if it is that is pretty broken towards town.![]()
This is scummy as hell speculation. Nitty knows well enough game breaking design and may know of Law's One Piece II which got broken due to what you described but that the town factions knew each others identities was out in the open from the start there.Well I am saying what if each town faction knows the other members of said faction and can just all mass back each other? Why would they not?
I'm wondering if someone who legitimately thinks this has ever played a generic game...or even knows they exist. There are many ways to start discussion, just simply asking people if they are town or other seemingly tame questions can lead to multiple quality reads.It's day once. Beyond ability use all we have is bullshitting.
So activity levels will depend on how much bullshitting people feel like doing.
Assumption of WAD being town and reading you badly, rather than scum pushing on an easy target.If you think that based on this interaction, hahaha, holy shit you're bad at reading people.
What you are trying to accuse WAD of here is a valid scumtell, it is what is called a preemptive defense. WAD isn't guilty of it here, simply pointed out that anti-town play is going to be called anti-town play, regardless of whether or not the accused(whose opinion in this matter means jack) thinks that the accuser is accurately reading the interaction.Oh boy, that's WAD's defense. If I flipped scum he'd be like "I called it" And if I flip town he'll be like "Meh, he was acting like scum so not my fault."
No personal responsibility.
Real town there broseph.
Dr.White, have you ever truly been successful as a scum hunter? I doubt it. Talk of weak arguments generally don't hold water and usually used by scum more than town. A single simple scumtell can catch out anti-town, as can super complex tinfoil. The only ones that really care about the methodology are those getting caught out by it.Yes you are going off on him with weak discord arguments, and usually you converse much more than this and build a better case
It being "common" is no excuse for it happening, learn to fucking scumhunt and not be abilityfags. I've seen whole scumteams get found out on d1 through scumhunting alone.Well I do know him to get snarky when someone is coming at him, so maybe that's why I don't read that as scummy, but imo the argument is weak and he is just saying the generic "early game is nonsense" stuff that usually goes down in both OBD games and here which is why I'm so confused as to you being up in arms.
Town behavior can wildly vary. Anti-town behavior is however fairly clear cut.WAD clearly gets to defone what qualifies as town behavior.
That is exactly what he was saying.But from my perspective it wasn't like there was a butt ton of substantial discussion he was trying to sweep under the rug. This game so far is majority shitposting and that's why I believe he was referring to, not that "Anything D1 is useless so we might as well not do anything, and blindshoot".
I look forward to seeing your conclusions from your currently baseless study, as opposed to actually trying to play the base game of mafia at all.Oh. That's fair. Masons and people that come into the game with random tidbits of possible knowledge.
Hadn't concideed that. I'll need to reevaluate and see what I think the weights are on that kinda shit.
What defines "being useful" to you, considering it is day 1? How would he "step it up"?Because I don't think you've been useful but it's day 1 so whatever for now but step it up![]()
You can only judge ones usefulness in this moment going by a neutral standpoint and even if WAD is scum, he has provided more towards the puzzle for me than anyone else in this game.Useful to town, or to your scum faction? You haven't actually given us any substantial leads that you've been willing to commit to, and please correct me if i'm wrong here. As far as i'm concerned you've only been misdirecting and pseudo-helping
Why would you want to, for someone other than yourself? You know what the best defense is? Continuing to be generally contributive and not just get into an endless argument with people who won't give up their gut feelings.Can't argue against personal reads![]()
If you're town, you shouldn't care about your own life so much. Even if you have a great role as town, you make it obvious by being so defensive. A claim of affiliation does not make one confirmed town and mafia might not even care or use it against you.1st day lynch in OBD because of a long streak of being given scum roles in OBD mafia
Hesitated to confirm because mafia might focus fire a confirmed town (especially since there are apparently 4 scum factions)
Alright so I am going out on a limb and say this matches WAD's meta in pretty much every game I've played with him.
That said, I don't really read him either way just yet.
AM legit came out and said he wasn't town? Either he really isn't and it adopting a truth meta or he's just fucking with his own team, in which case I'm fine with him dying anyway.
Nello is also on the same boat for the same reason.
[vote lynch Alwaysmind]
Will this be your excuse for later inactifagging?im guessing imma need to read up on lore![]()
It's a sad state of affairs, yet we couldn't get anything more than small games without them.Why do some of you even sign up for Mafia games
Really
Could be WAD is in the same state as I was in your RYBW game, frustrated with the fact that people are blatantly being anti-scum hunting.Seriously.
Wad wanted to lynch Katsu for being pessimistic about town.
He tagged me so I would confirm he has used that as an argument to lynch me too.
Yet Wad is the most pessimistic about town player in this game by a mile.
He needs to die.
Lynch chains da best. Info lynches da best.That's called an ad hominem fam. Your lynch is also information lynch so that's about it. Notice how Franky conveniently sused you when I said about wanting to lynch you.
If you flip town , franky is most likely scum
now suck my balls
fukboy
Mad that he is a more successful member of the community than you as well?Insider Scoop, Superman is scum
In a thread of super scummy things, this might well be the scummiest post of all. The possibility of revivals is no reason to be willy-nilly with who we off.I believe info lynches are more valuable this game as we might be able to ressurrect anyone who gets mislynched. As the host says in the first post:
Thoughts?