Game World of Warcraft: The Darkness Over Duskwood (town wins!)

[Laix]

so, what do we have left?

town read

2. Platinum
first i wasn't too sure about him but last phase has made me believe he is town

4. Natalija
haven't seen any posts from hers that stand out to me, she seems like a curious townie trying to solve the game

10. John Wayne
one of my first town reads

14. Ratchet
his push on hayumi early wasn't really questionable to me as i had my doubts about her too, and he was quick to pick up on the wagon forming on his word and word alone

16. Lord Melkor
immediately coming out as being infected was very pro-town to do. he could still be scum? does the worgen role confirm it can infect scum?

not sure

6. Tiger
i really can't read him. anyone else have any thoughts on him?

9. Worm Juice
coasting but she also coasted a lot in MMV where she was town so im really not sure

12. Sigismund
same for tiger, can't really read him so if anyone has any input would be great ty

17. Okosan
i was dead set on you being scum d1 but now i'm beginning to believe you're more on the town side

scummy

3. Kira Yagami
his "wish i was mafia " post at the beginning didn't sit right with me, and i feel like i haven't heard much from him this game

13. Juan
has he even contributed it???

15. Cooler
he seemed a bit too eager to have genome killed. did he already know he was the worgen?

happy to pressure either of these three today ^^^^^^

 

[Laix]

This comment sounds fake

i gave my warning dear

 

[Cooler]

Coooooo! (Actually you know what that's a really interesting kill. Because sure WPK was confirmed and all, but they barely met the post minimum for the day and even self voted. And normally inno children have nothing or barely anything in terms of abilities, so they're choosing to leave potentially strong prs alive. Like whatever caused there to be no kill on N1)

Maybe something to do with his reads?

Coming off d1 my preferred lynch order would be :

Hayumi
Lord Melkor
John Wayne
Laix
Tiger

I would feel little regret offing all of them in one swoop.

 

[Hidden]

15. Cooler
he seemed a bit too eager to have genome killed. did he already know he was the worgen?

happy to pressure either of these three today ^^^^^^

Coo! COO! (Is this your only reason for wanting to push Cooler? Because even if Cooler as mafia did know that, pushing that wouldn't get them any town cred. So unless you think Cooler pushed LG knowing LG was Worgen just so they didn't have to waste kills, Okosan doesn't really see why it matters all that much)

Coooo! (Heck on top of that, if that's your only reason for pushing Cooler couldn't Cooler just be a cop? Don't get Okosan wrong, Okosan thinks Cooler is sus too, but there are better reasons)

 

[Laix]

Coo! COO! (Is this your only reason for wanting to push Cooler? Because even if Cooler as mafia did know that, pushing that wouldn't get them any town cred. So unless you think Cooler pushed LG knowing LG was Worgen just so they didn't have to waste kills, Okosan doesn't really see why it matters all that much)

Coooo! (Heck on top of that, if that's your only reason for pushing Cooler couldn't Cooler just be a cop? Don't get Okosan wrong, Okosan thinks Cooler is sus too, but there are better reasons)

hmm i guess but im just paranoid as worgen couldn't win with mafia

what are your other reasons?

 

[Hidden]

Maybe something to do with his reads?

Cooooo! (Okosan means, if it was only because of that list Okosan would think at least 2/4 of those left would have to be mafia. Otherwise killing them based on a 1/5 seems meh)

 

[Hidden]

hmm i guess but im just paranoid as worgen couldn't win with mafia

what are your other reasons?

COO! (Okosan asked first)

 

[Laix]

COO! (Okosan asked first)

Mwah! (that's my only reason but its a strong reason)

 

[Cooler]

Cooooo! (Okosan means, if it was only because of that list Okosan would think at least 2/4 of those left would have to be mafia. Otherwise killing them based on a 1/5 seems meh)

Yeah I guess just spitballing really.

 

[Cooler]

Also at this point I feel like people are just putting me on their suss lists to blend in...

 

[Laix]

Also at this point I feel like people are just putting me on their suss lists to blend in...

king of OMGUSing everyone

 

[Lord Melkor]

@Laix, any reasons for your town reads on Platinum and John Wayne?

Also i am no longer infected as confirmed by the moderator, it was LG's doing.

 

[Laix]

@Laix, any reasons for your town reads on Platinum and John Wayne?

Also i am no longer infected as confirmed by the moderator, it was LG's doing.

Plat seemed like he was trying to solve the game and he wasn't as active when he was scum in MMV

I had a town read on JW from the start. just pure vibe.

I usually get scum vibes off someone when it seems like they have an agenda when their agenda should be lynching scum

do you feel otherwise?

 

[Hidden]

@Kira Yagami @Worm Juice

COOO! (Could you guys give a list of, let's say your top 3 scum and top 3 town with solid explanations? Or really just anything equivalent. Okosan's curious where you two are right now considering you're the lowest two posters at the moment)

 

[Worm Juice]

@Kira Yagami @Worm Juice

COOO! (Could you guys give a list of, let's say your top 3 scum and top 3 town with solid explanations? Or really just anything equivalent. Okosan's curious where you two are right now considering you're the lowest two posters at the moment)

You okosan

[Vote lynch Okosan]


Also juan and sigismund, maybe natalija.

 

[Ratchet]

Well, I suppose I was due a terrible game. This is a terrible game for me so far. I'm so frustrated at myself for trying to get clever instead of taking the obvious route.

 

[Hidden]

You okosan

[vote lynch okosan]


Also juan and sigismund, maybe natalija.

@Kira Yagami @Worm Juice

COOO! (Could you guys give a list of, let's say your top 3 scum and top 3 town with solid explanations? Or really just anything equivalent. Okosan's curious where you two are right now considering you're the lowest two posters at the moment)

 

[Worm Juice]

Solid explanations

 

[Ratchet]

[Vote Lynch Juan]

Placeholder for now I guess

 

[Hidden]

You okosan

[Vote lynch Okosan]


Also juan and sigismund, maybe natalija.

Coooo! COO! (Like, what's the point of this vote? There's nothing for Okosan to respond to. Nothing for him to refute. Just, "You're scum" with 36 hours in the day still and no apparent intention to actually talk)

 

[Cooler]

king of OMGUSing everyone

I mean your reasoning was "He wanted to lynch the guy he thought was Worgen", like that's a mafia thing to do.

So yeah I think you're full of shit...

 

[Hidden]

COOO! (The worst part is you're probably just bad town tunneling and not scum. Since scum would probably try harder not to look like the textbook definition of mafia)

 

[Laix]

I mean your reasoning was "He wanted to lynch the guy he thought was Worgen", like that's a mafia thing to do.

So yeah I think you're full of shit...

why? because i pointed out you seemed almost dead set LG was Worgen? I can bring up the posts if you like?

 

[Ratchet]

I feel like I've been given way too much of a pass this game too. Which tells me that my reads are probably off.

 

[Cooler]

why? because i pointed out you seemed almost dead set LG was Worgen? I can bring up the posts if you like?

Why does that make me mafia though? I wasn't even pushing him until he pinged me with infection mechanic talk...

 

[Hidden]

why? because i pointed out you seemed almost dead set LG was Worgen? I can bring up the posts if you like?

Coo! (Again Okosan really doesn't see why this matters honestly)

 

[Laix]

Why does that make me mafia though? I wasn't even pushing him until he pinged me with infection mechanic talk...

Coo! (Again Okosan really doesn't see why this matters honestly)

lmao okay we'll wait til endgame and see how many scum was on LG's wagon

 

[Laix]

anyway summoning @Juan cause you've given us nothing so far

 

[Hidden]

lmao okay we'll wait til endgame and see how many scum was on LG's wagon

Cooo! (Okosan means, he's not saying there aren't scum on LG's wagon or anything like that. He's just saying Cooler saying LG was Worgen feels NAI. Like, Cooler as town could call LG out on that as well. Heck there's probably even an argument that exists that a mafia Cooler would be more careful just to call LG scum)

 

[Cooler]

lmao okay we'll wait til endgame and see how many scum was on LG's wagon

hmmm...might be onto something there.

Vote count


Laix - Genome
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[Hidden]

I feel like I've been given way too much of a pass this game too. Which tells me that my reads are probably off.

COO Coo! (Yeah so especially with yesterday Okosan feels like either the scum are mostly just coasting their way to victory or they're just content with where people's suspicions are generally. D1 felt a lot more hectic than D2. Indicating mafia just didn't care at all that second day)

 

[Laix]

hmmm...might be onto something there.

Cooler - Genome
Sigismund - Genome

indeed

 

[Worm Juice]

Guy going for low hanging fruit and taking advantage of the momentum of the late LG wagon.

"I agree with what someone said about LG" lol

Your posts have been so shitty since you popped back up lol.

[Change Vote Lynch Nevan]

this makes cooler seem scummy?

 

[Worm Juice]

[Change Vote Lynch Cooler]

 

[Cooler]

this makes cooler seem scummy?

Does it? lol

 

[Worm Juice]

Does it? lol

Maybe?

 

[Cooler]

[Change Vote Lynch Cooler]

So opportunistic lol.

 

[Natalija]

So happy over the successful lynch! One less to worry about.
Ok, so probably the vig killed Hayumi. I'm sure mafia could be among some of the people on her vote wagon.

I had a town read on JW from the start. just pure vibe.

Isn't that exactly the vibe scum wants to give?

 

[Laix]

So happy over the successful lynch! One less to worry about.
Ok, so probably the vig killed Hayumi. I'm sure mafia could be among some of the people on her vote wagon.


Isn't that exactly the vibe scum wants to give?

i guess but if you have arguments to believe otherwise feel free to share

 

[Juan]

god fucking dammit mafia, now i actually have to try

 

[Juan]

the cooler reasoning for a vote is weak and actually trying to stick to it sounds dumb, cult is a bad ability that can end a game early if used correctly, but arguing someone may be scummy or a lynch candidate because they got rid of the cultist isn't a good reason, it's not even a reason, it's just straw grasping, since, you know, town can't win with cultists either!!!

 

[Juan]

also i called lg being scum day 1 so i'll gladly take my deserved cred for that

 

[Natalija]

i guess but if you have arguments to believe otherwise feel free to share

Just saying we shouldn't dismiss anyone so easily.

god fucking dammit mafia, now i actually have to try

Please, do bless us with your effort

 

[Juan]

Please, do bless us with your effort

fuck i look like

 

[Juan]

also, hayumi is still scum, the fact that the moment her lynch was a real possibility and people suddenly decided platinum and lg were better options should be all you need to know about that

 

[Ratchet]

the cooler reasoning for a vote is weak and actually trying to stick to it sounds dumb, cult is a bad ability that can end a game early if used correctly, but arguing someone may be scummy or a lynch candidate because they got rid of the cultist isn't a good reason, it's not even a reason, it's just straw grasping, since, you know, town can't win with cultists either!!!

I believe the argument is more that Cooler expressed an example of TMI, where he was sure LG was a specific varient of scum, rather than just scum in general. Not sure I entirely agree though, because according to Cooler, his whole suspicion was based on LG knowing about certain characteristics only that scum group would know, so that can be explained like so rather than requiring Cooler to be scum.

 

[Ratchet]

also, hayumi is still scum, the fact that the moment her lynch was a real possibility and people suddenly decided platinum and lg were better options should be all you need to know about that

You're not getting a derp clear for this.

 

[Laix]

the cooler reasoning for a vote is weak and actually trying to stick to it sounds dumb, cult is a bad ability that can end a game early if used correctly, but arguing someone may be scummy or a lynch candidate because they got rid of the cultist isn't a good reason, it's not even a reason, it's just straw grasping, since, you know, town can't win with cultists either!!!

also, hayumi is still scum, the fact that the moment her lynch was a real possibility and people suddenly decided platinum and lg were better options should be all you need to know about that

[VOTE LYNCH Juan]

 

[Hayumi]

Am I allowed to make a final post?



Oh well, I am anyways. Gg everyone and good luck to town but also...

FUCK YOU ALL



But love you guys still.

 

[John Wayne]

Juan comes in here after being radio silent and scummy and then tries to take credit for scum lynching smh....

 

[Hayumi]

Oops forgot to add this but, @Elistren THANKS FOR THE GAME~ much love

 

[Cooler]

also i called lg being scum day 1 so i'll gladly take my deserved cred for that

What cred do you expect to gain from sussing an indie?

 

[Cooler]

Also...

[Vote Lynch Tiger]

 

[Juan]

oh wait hayumi died

i really need to read elistren's posts

 

[Sigismund]

oh wait hayumi died

i really need to read elistren's posts

Probably for the best

 

[Laix]

oh wait hayumi died

i really need to read elistren's posts

we’re doomed

 

[Platinum]

...bruh

 

[Platinum]

Anyways, the WPK kill strikes me as a move that the mafia would make if they are confident in their position. I wouldn't be surprised if most of them haven't been sussed at all, otherwise, it would be more logical to go after the hyperactive town members or potential power roles than the known quality townie.

 

[Natalija]

Anyways, the WPK kill strikes me as a move that the mafia would make if they are confident in their position. I wouldn't be surprised if most of them haven't been sussed at all, otherwise, it would be more logical to go after the hyperactive town members or potential power roles than the known quality townie.

It makes sense for mafia to kill him because no one would suspect our confirmed leader anyway. This now just leaves us pointing fingers at each other.

 

[Tiger]

Pretty happy about LG being worgen, but it turns out he was probably more threatening to mafia than town, tbh.

It's actually possible he's the reason there was no kill night 1.

I'm puzzled and annoyed about Hayumi's flip. I'm no less responsible for that.

Solidified town to me:

John, Ratchet, Natalija

Middle:

Bird, Laix(the comments to WPK can't be so obvious?), Platinum, Sigismund

Scum:

Kira, Juan, Cooler, Worm Juice

I'll be around in a handful of hours and I'll respond to anyone that wants to talk to me then.

I've had similar reads most of the game and survived, so I don't know where to apply pressure right now aside from an omgus on Cooler who has been on my ass since I sussed him the first time.

 

[Natalija]

Pretty happy about LG being worgen, but it turns out he was probably more threatening to mafia than town, tbh.

It's actually possible he's the reason there was no kill night 1.

Why would he be the reason? You think they tried to kill him but failed? Hahaha unlucky.

In that case they might have tried to lynch him, no?

 

[Laix]

Why would he be the reason? You think they tried to kill him but failed? Hahaha unlucky.

In that case they might have tried to lynch him, no?

this is what I was saying but the pigeon @Okosan said it “wasn’t important”

 

[Cooler]

this is what I was saying but the pigeon @Okosan said it “wasn’t important”

This is straight up manipulative seeing as I didn't even push for LG until after our back and forth - which he started by sussing me...

This is even more laughable considering you were on the wagon before me. Like how am I a suspect for wanting to lynch LG and you're not? Because I actually pushed my case on him? Like that's a bad thing lol.

 

[Natalija]

this is what I was saying but the pigeon @Okosan said it “wasn’t important”

Looool how is this not important.

Okay, let's see, it was: Tiger, Laix, Platinum, Cooler and Sigismund.

Yup, pretty safe to say some of you are mafia

 

[Laix]

This is straight up manipulative seeing as I didn't even push for LG until after our back and forth - which he started by sussing me...

This is even more laughable considering you were on the wagon before me. Like how am I a suspect for wanting to lynch LG and you're not? Because I actually pushed my case on him? Like that's a bad thing lol.

1. compare our posts during d2
2. I put the smallest bit of pressure on you and you’re having a meltdown??? I haven’t even voted for you

 

[Cooler]

1. compare our posts during d2
2. I put the smallest bit of pressure on you and you’re having a meltdown??? I haven’t even voted for you

Calling out scummy behaviour is apparently a meltdown. Good to know.

 

[Kira Yagami]

Hayumi was actually town

 

[Kira Yagami]

Scum leans on Cooler and Tiger
Ether would be a good lynch, definitely scum between them

 

[Juan]

Calling out scummy behaviour is apparently a meltdown. Good to know.

it isn't, but sassing someone for it tends to be. you're ridiculing the argument to disprove it rather than actually disprove it.

not that i think you're scummy anyway, lg went too hard on the cultist bit and mentions about it, so the lynch on him was a valid idea

 

[Juan]

Scum leans on Cooler and Tiger
Ether would be a good lynch, definitely scum between them

why?

 

[Kira Yagami]

Think we should be wary of Laix too, hes been pretty active and maybe its cause ive never played with him before but i cant read him at all

 

[Juan]

we’re doomed

if you're counting on me, yes

 

[Kira Yagami]

why?

Ive already said Cooler felt very off this game from the games ive played with him before as town
And Tiger just seems shady, reading back his nevan sus on d1 was pretty weak stuff, felt like just an easy lynch to push
i also believe at least one of the players on nevans wagon is scum

 

[Kira Yagami]

I completely forgot u were even in game mate, any scum reads? @Juan

 

[Cooler]

Ive already said Cooler felt very off this game from the games ive played with him before as town
And Tiger just seems shady, reading back his nevan sus on d1 was pretty weak stuff, felt like just an easy lynch to push
i also believe at least one of the players on nevans wagon is scum

I'm what way do I seem off to you?

I started a bit slow but that's not unusual for me on D1.

 

[Cooler]

Ive already said Cooler felt very off this game from the games ive played with him before as town
And Tiger just seems shady, reading back his nevan sus on d1 was pretty weak stuff, felt like just an easy lynch to push
i also believe at least one of the players on nevans wagon is scum

What do you think of Tigers sus on Hayumi?

 

[Lord Melkor]

Coming off d1 my preferred lynch order would be :

Hayumi
Lord Melkor
John Wayne
Laix
Tiger

I would feel little regret offing all of them in one swoop.

I doubt Mafia would off WPK if most of his scum reads here were correct. He was obviously wrong about Hayumi and myself. Though propably at least one of the names here is Mafia.

Ok, I really don't think Platinum should be lynched today.

LG or Hayumi are better options.

Hm, care to explain your town read on Platinum? It cannot be so easy that you are Mafia defending your mate?

Plat seemed like he was trying to solve the game and he wasn't as active when he was scum in MMV

I had a town read on JW from the start. just pure vibe.

I usually get scum vibes off someone when it seems like they have an agenda when their agenda should be lynching scum

do you feel otherwise?

I do not have this town read on John Wayne many of you have, is this based on previous games? I had a bad vibe on him from the start, he did seem to be interested in real scumhunting.

[VOTE LYNCH Juan]

Juan comes in here after being radio silent and scummy and then tries to take credit for scum lynching smh....

@Laix, @John Wayne, do you think that Juan not knowing Hayumi has been killed?

For now [Vote Lynch Tiger]

 

[Laix]

@Laix, @John Wayne, do you think that Juan not knowing Hayumi has been killed?

For now [Vote Lynch Tiger]

on a train home so have a few

are you asking what I think of it? If so, I think it’s weird because he was VERY attentive in MMV. but maybe his apathy this game is because he has a boring town role? or he’s confident in the fact we are on day 3 and it feels like we are not even close to finding scum

between him, cooler, sigi and maybe tiger I’m happy with any of their lynches

Depending on what they flip too will change my thoughts on the others

for example if cooler flipped scum I’d be inclined to believe sigi and tiger are also definitely scum

 

[Laix]

And to answer your JW question,

he just seems like a curious townie to me. I don’t really see how people aren’t getting town vibes from him, but I understand how my validation of him being just a “vibe” is suspicious

In which case I invite any of you to present reasons for why you’d believe him to be scum, and I may be swayed

 

[Lord Melkor]

That exchange seemed rehearsed to me.

@Tiger, why did you think "flirting" between Juan and Hayumi was rehearsed?

That is something I mentioned as a red flag I felt yesterday. It caused me to pay close attention to your posts, and I didn't like what I read over night for the hours I was asleep to end the phase. But to say I'm voting you because you were flirting is an erasure.

And let's calm down on "this lynch is too easy"-- no one is being lynched right now. We've barely started the day, and there's very few votes cast. Pressure and votes are good. If you get near the end of a day without any pushback, then you've got a problem.

Though, it does seem interesting that as soon as Ratchet mentions it's been easy to push Hayumi, multiple people go "yeah it HAS been! Let's look elsewhere."

Do people think Tiger was being genuine here?