Laix
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I roleblocked you, you never got informed?
nope? i'm guessing elistren forgot as he woke up late
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I roleblocked you, you never got informed?
Who did you bus last nightnope? i'm guessing elistren forgot as he woke up late
Coooooo! (Laix. Explain the actions to Okosan then? Ratchet claims the targeted you the night previous. Natalija also targeted you. You redirected them to Tiger, who Kira is targeting and can't be redirected due to order of actions processed. Therefore Ratchet's watch should have picked up Natalija AND Kira. But it didn't. Therefore someone is lying)
Coo! (Unless you can tell Okosan a version of events where that works)
COOO! (Unless Okosan is missing something the only explanation is either Kira didn't really roleblock Tiger, and therefore Ratchet did actually watch Tiger and get Natalija. OR you (Laix) is lying and they targeted you with no redirect)Coooooo! (Laix. Explain the actions to Okosan then? Ratchet claims the targeted you the night previous. Natalija also targeted you. You redirected them to Tiger, who Kira is targeting and can't be redirected due to order of actions processed. Therefore Ratchet's watch should have picked up Natalija AND Kira. But it didn't. Therefore someone is lying)
Coo! (Unless you can tell Okosan a version of events where that works)
COOOO! (Okay why didn't Ratchet see Kira act on their target?)okay so
i busdrove myself with tiger
kira roleblocked tiger, no faction kill happened
natalija is claiming she protected me, which should've redirected to tiger
ratchet, confirmed watcher, saw natalija target me
however, the only action from these that is 100% confirmed is ratchet's
Who did you bus last night
COOOO! (So pretty sure we lynch Laix or Kira today right? Because we now know that results are accurate, which means either no one actually got redirected (with Natalija and Ratchet targeting Laix) and therefore Laix is scum. Or they did get redirected and Kira never targeted Tiger)
Hm, only problem i have is that Kira and Laix both went hard against Cooler and Cooler was the most valuable Mafia member. Do you think that these interactions were faked? I quess there could be.....
COO! (Legit Okosan's not even looking at who's been acting sus or not at the moment. The actions just straight up don't line up)Hm, only problem i have is that Kira and Laix both went hard against Cooler and Cooler was the most valuable Mafia member. Do you think that these interactions were faked? I quess there could be.....
COOOO! (Okay why didn't Ratchet see Kira act on their target?)
you said you was going to roleblock me yesterday, so i didn't see the point in using my last shot as it would've just added to the confusion and probably incriminated me
Cooo! (Okay cool so one of you two is scum and is lying then. Because pretty sure there's literally nothing that could've happened that could've caused this. The only thing being maybe a mafia redirect on you?? Depending on the order the host would process that? Because Okosan legit can not think of an ability that would mess with the results from Ratchet)that's what we've been trying to figure out hun
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Cooo! (Okay cool so one of you two is scum and is lying then. Because pretty sure there's literally nothing that could've happened that could've caused this. The only thing being maybe a mafia redirect on you?? Depending on the order the host would process that? Because Okosan legit can not think of an ability that would mess with the results from Ratchet)
Then it ought to be Laix.Cooo! (You're not confirmed fyi. Your kill could've just failed and then you claimed roleblocker. Are you following the game? From an outside perspective one of you two are scum because the actions don't work)
Vote count
Worm Juice - Okosan > Cooler
Ratchet - Juan > Cooler > Tiger
Laix - Juan > Cooler
Cooler - Tiger > Juan > Tiger
Lord Melkor - Tiger > Juan
Natalija - Cooler
Tiger - Juan
Kira - Tiger
Platinum - Worm Juice
Juan - Cooler
Okosan - Cooler
John Wayne - Okosan > Cooler
Sigismund - Tiger
Then it ought to be Laix.
Yes, I am pretty much confirmed at this point, The scum last phase as you said was between me and Tiger who if you recall I exposed and got him lynched as well as cucked him from his kill
Are you playing dumb here or are you just scum because im getting irritated with you, since last phase you've been wanting for me to be scum
COOOO! (Basically there are 3 options
1) Laix is scum and is lying about the busdrive. This makes the actions work out. Now Natalija and Ratchet did actually target Laix, therefore making sense why Ratchet only saw Natalija. Kira then did roleblock the scum the previous night and block the kill. Everything works out
2) Kira is lying and didn't roleblock Tiger. Now Ratchet and Natalija did get redirected to Tiger and it make sense that Ratchet did not see Kira act on Tiger (because Kira didn't). This means that something else blocked their kill last night which is why this is the slightly less likely option in Okosan's mind. Because someone would probably claim that. Also busdriver seems more like a feasible fake claim given to them than roleblocker does
3) Neither is lying and some ability Okosan can not think of messed with the results. If this is the case Okosan would love to hear the speculation on what could've happened)
I actually didnt think you were scum tbh which is why i was also tinfoiling about ratchet last phase, seemed too easy but you did claim to have swapped yourself with WPK on n2 and Natalija claimed to have protected you, if so wouldnt that mean she was protecting wpk?
Cooo! (Okosan means, you could just be strongman to be fair)I WAS ROLEBLOCKED AND RATCHET DIED LAST NIGHT.
how did I kill him if i'm mafia and was roleblocked???
I actually didnt think you were scum tbh which is why i was also tinfoiling about ratchet last phase, seemed too easy but you did claim to have swapped yourself with WPK on n2 and Natalija claimed to have protected you, if so wouldnt that mean she was protecting wpk?
If you really did swap with WPK, how could he have been killed if he was protected?
Cooo! (Okosan means, you could just be strongman to be fair)
COO! (Also this post is literally assuming that Kira is town to confirm yourself?? Which is an odd jump to make after that last post of Okosan's.)
Cooo! (Oh yeah Okosan did actually forget about Natalija having protected WPK via the redirect too. Pretty sure this just points towards Laix being scum more, but he needs to think about it for a second)I actually didnt think you were scum tbh which is why i was also tinfoiling about ratchet last phase, seemed too easy but you did claim to have swapped yourself with WPK on n2 and Natalija claimed to have protected you, if so wouldnt that mean she was protecting wpk?
If you really did swap with WPK, how could he have been killed if he was protected?
COOOO! (So you're just going to ignore the ability claim from Ratchet and how that doesn't make sense at all / you don't have an explanation for it? Alright. Reads a lot like your only chance to survive being to not lynch within the two of you but kay)which is exactly my point
is she actually a doctor? doesn't add up.
I would be VERY surprised if Kira is scum. look at the bigger picture
Coo! (Oh ignore the ability claim from a confirm that doesn't make sense, but trust the ability claim from an unconfirmed to prove yourself town. Nice double standard there)COOOO! (So you're just going to ignore the ability claim from Ratchet and how that doesn't make sense at all / you don't have an explanation for it? Alright. Reads a lot like your only chance to survive being to not lynch within the two of you but kay)
COOOO! (So you're just going to ignore the ability claim from Ratchet and how that doesn't make sense at all / you don't have an explanation for it? Alright. Reads a lot like your only chance to survive being to not lynch within the two of you but kay)
COO! COO! (Laix you can at least see how, from your perspective, Kira being scum does explains Ratchets action?)
Coo! (Okosan has yet to see anyone explain the Ratchet result that shows one of you or Laix isn't scum. He's not pushing for you specifically, just one of the pair)
Birdie wants me to be scum so bad when literally all evidence points to otherwise after last phase, im literally the most confirmed townie alive right now, stop pushing this narrative
I actually didnt think you were scum tbh which is why i was also tinfoiling about ratchet last phase, seemed too easy but you did claim to have swapped yourself with WPK on n2 and Natalija claimed to have protected you, if so wouldnt that mean she was protecting wpk?
If you really did swap with WPK, how could he have been killed if he was protected?
COO! (Tiger was getting lynched before Kira's claim. All Kira's claim did was pile on to it. Also if you read Tiger's posts after he outed he mentioned playing a fast and loose game. Which would make sense if Kira is scum claiming that after Tiger already going to die to get major town cred until end of game. Also could be why Tiger didn't defend himself)i guess but then you're saying kira threw both his scummates under the bus? tiger literally only got lynched because of his claim
Coo! (Are you saying Natalija would have blocked you here? Because we already established that role blocks happen before redirects)Natalija is the last scum. she's probably a roleblocker. would explain why WPK died and would explain why my busdrive didn't go through
thank me later now can we please end this game
Theres a ton of ways ratchets results couldve been messed with, i dont know why you ignore that.Coo! (Okosan has yet to see anyone explain the Ratchet result that shows one of you or Laix isn't scum. He's not pushing for you specifically, just one of the pair)
COO! (What ways exactly then? Okosan keeps asking for specific examples because Okosan clearly doesn't see how, and no one is giving them)Theres a ton of ways ratchets results couldve been messed with, i dont know why you ignore that.
And No, this is not going to be another situation where its between me and another on the chopping block when im the most confirmed townie alive, stop pushing that angle.
So either you or her is lying herewho said he was protected? who said i was protected?
ratchet confirmed natalija targeted me. he did NOT confirm it was a protection. that was her claim. and as we've seen with WPK's death, it doesn't add up
Coo! (Are you saying Natalija would have blocked you here? Because we already established that role blocks happen before redirects)
I dont know what kind of abilities the mafias got tfCOO! (What ways exactly then? Okosan keeps asking for specific examples because Okosan clearly doesn't see how, and no one is giving them)
COOOO! (Also lmao saying Okosan is ignoring that when he very specifically gives clauses like, "Oh or something weird happened that Okosan can't imagine an ability for. But chime in if you can!")
Coooooo! (Name literally any feasible ability that could mess with the results in such a way that results happened the way they did. It would have to be something insane like a double redirect on both exactly natalija and Ratchet. Or something extremely weird like obscuring you specifically from Ratchet's results for no reason)I dont know what kind of abilities the mafias got tf
Coo! (Lmao cool so claims from people that are alive confirm you of being town but claims from people who are dead don't mean anything to you. Got it)you're not really helping and you're just confusing everyone, as well as trying to accuse 99% confirmed townies of being scum
kira shouldn't even be a consideration of being scum because you're basically suggesting he threw the game and got both of his scummates lynched
his roleblock claim makes NO sense from a scum perspective
So Sigismund and Kira among the alive players were voting Tiger. But John Wayne switched to Cooler the moment Cooler had majority, at the very end of phase...
^I think the most plausible scenario here is that Laix is the one lying about being a busdriverMy results last Night Phase said @Natalija targeted Laix. If Laix indeed busdrove himself with Tiger, then I would have actually been Watching Tiger, and thus, I should have received Kira in my results. I also feel like I probably should have received Laix as well. But I don't know how it is done here - some sites do not show the busdriver, when self-targeting, to appear to target themselves. Someone else would have to advise on that.
Coo! (Lmao cool so claims from people that are alive confirm you of being town but claims from people who are dead don't mean anything to you. Got it)
Coo! (Okosan means, that is literally one of the scenarios Okosan was pushing)^I think the most plausible scenario here is that Laix is the one lying about being a busdriver
Laix swapping himself with Tiger being bullshit would explain why Ratchet didnt receive neither mine or Laixs results on Tiger but only received Natalijas on Laix
^I think the most plausible scenario here is that Laix is the one lying about being a busdriver
Laix swapping himself with Tiger being bullshit would explain why Ratchet didnt receive neither mine or Laixs results on Tiger but only received Natalijas on Laix
Coo! ("Ratchet's claim is the only 100% confirmed one"i've also said multiple times that ratchet's claim is the only 100% confirmed one, as he is dead and his role confirms what he said he could do. Kira isn't hard confirmed as that would require him dying to do so, but him lying would mean he threw both teammates under the bus which is ridiciulous since he would've theoretically left himself alone vs 9 townies
do you understand now?
Coo! ("Ratchet's claim is the only 100% confirmed one"
Also ignores Ratchet claim that shows something is messed up about the ability claims if your claim itself is correct)
I'm basically a generic townie, my only ability is a passive that makes it take 1 more vote to lynch me.
Cooooo! (Okay cool? That doesn't have to do with what Okosan said. You're saying Ratchet is the only claim to be confirmed, and yet Ratchet only saw Natalija on the night that they should've seen Natalija AND Kira. You keep skirting around why that's the case)i literally have said i don't believe natalija's claim to be genuine
stop trolling us and go catch some worms
Maybe my roleblock on Laix failed, I dont know if i believe Laixs claim that he was indeed roleblocked after he had already denied it as it was after i told him
I dont know if shizune would make a mistake like that
Maybe my roleblock on Laix failed, I dont know if i believe Laixs claim that he was indeed roleblocked after he had already denied it as it was after i told him
I dont know if shizune would make a mistake like that
Cooooo! (Okay cool? That doesn't have to do with what Okosan said. You're saying Ratchet is the only claim to be confirmed, and yet Ratchet only saw Natalija on the night that they should've seen Natalija AND Kira. You keep skirting around why that's the case)
Coooooo! (Okay. And in your mind how does Natalija being scum lead to those results to you?)yes we are midway trying to figure that out
Coooooo! (Okay. And in your mind how does Natalija being scum lead to those results to you?)
Coooooo! (Mafia so far have a role that's good at information collection/Denying, and a protective role. If you're going by how Shizune normally makes the games there should be a role that's really good at killing. Therefore one being immune to roleblocks wouldn't be out of the question)so how did ratchet die? roleblock me again tonight and see if anyone dies. you really believe mafia would have a nightly kill that ignores roleblocks? what's the point of your role then?
Coooooo! (Lmao and you admit that Kira being scum WOULD explain it, but don't want to push that for some reason)don't know
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Coooooo! (Mafia so far have a role that's good at information collection/Denying, and a protective role. If you're going by how Shizune normally makes the games there should be a role that's really good at killing. Therefore one being immune to roleblocks wouldn't be out of the question)
Coo! (Especially since the other two roles have had, "if you carry the kill," effects. Now to be fair this is all speculation, but a, "if you carry the kill it's a strongman kill," doesn't seem all too out there to Okosan)Coooooo! (Mafia so far have a role that's good at information collection/Denying, and a protective role. If you're going by how Shizune normally makes the games there should be a role that's really good at killing. Therefore one being immune to roleblocks wouldn't be out of the question)
Maybe mafias got an ability or role that would negate that?so how did ratchet die? roleblock me again tonight and see if anyone dies. you really believe mafia would have a nightly kill that ignores roleblocks? what's the point of your role then?
Because its a dumb angleCoooooo! (Lmao and you admit that Kira being scum WOULD explain it, but don't want to push that for some reason)
Maybe mafias got an ability or role that would negate that?
Or is it possible theres 4 mafias rather than 3? Or would that be too unbalanced![]()