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i'll play devil's advocoate here:

ratchet has the capability of pulling off a lie like this. i saw it in MMV.

however, the insight he presented makes this unlikely

i think we can confidently say ratchet is telling the truth and anyone trying to suggest otherwise should be looked at

this means that

tiger
kira
natalija
myself

one of us is lying. however, if i was lying then i would've died N2 instead of WPK

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Laix said:
i'll play devil's advocoate here:

ratchet has the capability of pulling off a lie like this. i saw it in MMV.

however, the insight he presented makes this unlikely

i think we can confidently say ratchet is telling the truth and anyone trying to suggest otherwise should be looked at

this means that

tiger
kira
natalija
myself

one of us is lying. however, if i was lying then i would've died N2 instead of WPK

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He's not lying about me visiting you. It's impossible to make that up specifically.
 
Natalija said:
It's not impossible since we all overlapped.
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Coo! (No matter what you think about Okosan or anyone else it's irrefutable that one of the pair of Tiger or Kira is lying. Tiger claims an ability activated last night. Kira claims they stopped the ability from activating last night. Kira acting can only get stopped by a rolecrush, which isn't what happened. Therefore one in the pair is lying and scum)
 
now here are the actions alleged:

laix busdrives with tiger
natalija protects laix
kira roleblocks tiger
ratchet watches laix

now, these actions don't add up

the results?

tiger claims he lost his one-shot BP
no kill happened last night

kira claims the kill didn't happen because he roleblocked tiger

this may very well be the case, however a kill never occurred N1 and we still don't know the results of that

maybe natalija is telling the truth and the kill hit who she was protecting?

maybe natalija protected tiger, and in doing so it prevented their faction from doing a night kill?

maybe natalija actually didn't "protect" me but attacked me, redirecting to tiger who lost his one-shot BP?

 
Kira Yagami said:
What? Natalija has nothing to do with me, shes been moreso defending tiger if anything
The smart option today is lynching the guy whos literally no loss to town in the 0.00001 chance he is town
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Coo! (No the thing is if Natalija is scum they're scum with you. Because that means Natalia tried killing Tiger last night, which in turn means you're the one lying in the Tiger/Kira pair)
 
then if kira's roleblock redirects to me, it wouldn't have done anything if redirects have priority right?

but then it doesn't explain how ratchet saw natalija targeting me. either an action processing mistake, or tracking attempts have ultimate priority?

but from a hosting perspective that doesn't make sense and i've never known elistren to make mistakes like that when hosting
 
Laix said:
then if kira's roleblock redirects to me, it wouldn't have done anything if redirects have priority right?

but then it doesn't explain how ratchet saw natalija targeting me. either an action processing mistake, or tracking attempts have ultimate priority?

but from a hosting perspective that doesn't make sense and i've never known elistren to make mistakes like that when hosting
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Coo! Coo! (Roleblocks don't get redirected)
 
Laix said:
then if kira's roleblock redirects to me, it wouldn't have done anything if redirects have priority right?

but then it doesn't explain how ratchet saw natalija targeting me. either an action processing mistake, or tracking attempts have ultimate priority?

but from a hosting perspective that doesn't make sense and i've never known elistren to make mistakes like that when hosting
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But, then Tiger wouldn't lose his bulletproof since I protected him? Or would he?
 
Kira Yagami said:
Yeah well thats just not true :dank
Dont tie Natalija to me over some unconfirmed shit and just look at myself and tiger only, do u not agree that he would be the best lynch today?
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Cooo! (Okay imagine that Natalija is scum. In what world does it make sense that Tiger is scum with her? The world would have to be you blocked Tiger who actually made the kill last night, Natalija targeted Laix with NOT the faction kill but with something else not super bad. Maybe a role block or a spy. And then got redirected to Tiger, their scum mate, who also happened to get watched. Sure it's possible, but it makes a lot more sense in the world where you're just scum and Natalija was made to kill tiger last night)

Cooooo! (The actions also make sense for Natalija being bad as they claim to have targeted Laix two nights in a row when Laix redirected actions on themselves onto the the two Kill targets for those two nights. Effectively making it so that natalija is claiming to have protected the A) WPK on the night they died. and B) Tiger)

Coo! COO? (And yeah like Okosan said Tiger is probably the best lynch from an info perspective, but Okosan just so much feels the world is you/Natalija it's hard to pick. Here's the thing Okosan's vote probably won't even matter lmao)
 
Okosan said:
Cooo! (Okay imagine that Natalija is scum. In what world does it make sense that Tiger is scum with her? The world would have to be you blocked Tiger who actually made the kill last night, Natalija targeted Laix with NOT the faction kill but with something else not super bad. Maybe a role block or a spy. And then got redirected to Tiger, their scum mate, who also happened to get watched. Sure it's possible, but it makes a lot more sense in the world where you're just scum and Natalija was made to kill tiger last night)

Cooooo! (The actions also make sense for Natalija being bad as they claim to have targeted Laix two nights in a row when Laix redirected actions on themselves onto the the two Kill targets for those two nights. Effectively making it so that natalija is claiming to have protected the A) WPK on the night they died. and B) Tiger)

Coo! COO? (And yeah like Okosan said Tiger is probably the best lynch from an info perspective, but Okosan just so much feels the world is you/Natalija it's hard to pick. Here's the thing Okosan's vote probably won't even matter lmao)
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Im not reading all that :ssmith
 
Natalija said:
@Okosan you're so far fetched with your theories. If I was making this up, I definitely wouldn't say something like n1 no one, then Laix twice. I would have said something way more convincing. Also, if I was scum I'd never go for Laix.
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Coo! (Okay so? He's not even going for you this phase even though you're legit Okoan's biggest scum read. Because it makes infinitely more sense to always lynch one of the Kira/Tiger pair)
 
Okosan said:
Coo! (Yeah the thing is Okosan thinks lynching Tiger is actually better, but Okosan feels like Kira/Natalija have more scum equity. So really whatever the thread feels is good. It legit doesn't matter all too much)
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It kinda looks to me like you're hesitant to lynch Tiger. Possible scum buddy? Focusing on townies instead and trying to blend in with town?
 
Natalija said:
It kinda looks to me like you're hesitant to lynch Tiger. Possible scum buddy? Focusing on townies instead and trying to blend in with town?
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Coo! (Lmao thinking Okosan is hesitant to vote Tiger when he keeps saying people should vote whoever they want and that Tiger is actually the better lynch. Okosan personally just thinks you're super sus and you line up better with Kira)

COOO! (Legit you're looking at specifically that post where Okosan wants to vote Kira, and completely ignoring the post Okosan made earlier where he basically told Tiger to deal with getting lynched today)
 
Kira Yagami said:
@Natalija why are you voting okosan rather than tiger?
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Because providing terrible, terrible reads. Also:
Natalija said:
It kinda looks to me like you're hesitant to lynch Tiger. Possible scum buddy? Focusing on townies instead and trying to blend in with town?
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In short I'm fine with lynching Tiger or Okosan, but atm I am keen on Okosan.
 
Okosan said:
Cooo!! (Alrighty cool. Don't know why it took so long to answer the yes/no question. So here's what's going to happen Tiger. Okosan is first going to clarify with Shizune that a BP would get told if they were roleblocked. Then assuming that they would be, we're going to lynch you and then Kira if you're town. It's a 1 for 1 trade to get half the remaining mafia. Surely you're okay with that right? Especially considering you're vanilla now apparently)

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Okosan said:
Coo! (Well Tiger it makes more sense to lynch you first Okosan is pretty sure. It makes a lot less sense for mafia to come out of the blue to bury you some more when you were already getting lynched hard. Like, by Kira doing this they're sacrificing themselves to get rid of a vanilla. the only way this makes sense is if Kira thought you were going to get out of it honestly. Or if they were super confident that they can get out of being lynched tomorrow)
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Coo! (Some prime examples of Okosan being hesitant to lynch Tiger right there)
 
Okosan said:
Coo! (Oh actually Okosan will apologize on this one it looks like Okosan actually might have forgotten to vote Tiger on a self iso. He did actually mean too, though, and if you seriously think that Okosan's entire interaction with Tiger wasn't Okosan condemning Tiger to be lynched that day you're crazy)
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Coo! COO! (Like Okosan doesn't see how you could think Okosan could walk that back with the information in the thread at the time and say, "Nah let's vote Kira though")
 
Okosan said:
Coo! (Oh actually Okosan will apologize on this one it looks like Okosan actually might have forgotten to vote Tiger on a self iso. He did actually mean too, though, and if you seriously think that Okosan's entire interaction with Tiger wasn't Okosan condemning Tiger to be lynched that day you're crazy)
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So I’m not crazy after all :harley

No, but if you’re so convinced and a townie, then I don’t understand why you’re hesitating.
 
Natalija said:
So I’m not crazy after all :harley

No, but if you’re so convinced and a townie, then I don’t understand why you’re hesitating.
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Cooo! (There was no hesitation but okay. Guess it's bad of Okosan for waiting for Tiger to give a defense instead of instantly condemming them)

COOO! (Btw by the logic you're giving you're just as guilty fyi. You're scum reading Okosan for not wanting to push Tiger, and yet you came into the day saying you thought Tiger was town, and continue to not vote Tiger even now.)
 
Okosan said:
Coo! (Okay. And as such if you understand that, you can understand why Okosan is finding it bad that you're voting Okosan instead of tiger)
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Take it as you will. I’m not 100% sure about Tiger because there were 4 weird actions that happened, so I won’t be voting him.

And your terrible reads deserve a vote of confidence :sauceskully
You won’t be lynched anyway, so why should you even care.
 
Natalija said:
Take it as you will. I’m not 100% sure about Tiger because there were 4 weird actions that happened, so I won’t be voting him.

And your terrible reads deserve a vote of confidence :sauceskully
You won’t be lynched anyway, so why should you even care.
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Coooooo! (Lmao if you don't see how you should be lynching between the two to hit a confirmed scum then Okosan can't help you)
 
Natalija said:
Just too sure of himself with the roleblock reaction against Tiger. You can’t fake such reactions. That’s what I think anyway.

If I’m that wrong, then I’m going to stop playing mafia :’)
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Natalija said:
Then it would be Tiger.
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You literally said my reactions appeared more townie than his a page or two ago.

Once I am lynched, you'll have your Kira/Nat scum team. Cest la vie, onto the next game. Surviving is overrated.
 
Tiger said:
You literally said my reactions appeared more townie than his a page or two ago.

Once I am lynched, you'll have your Kira/Nat scum team. Cest la vie, onto the next game. Surviving is overrated.
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No. I think you’re both town. But they ask me to choose, so I have to say something. I don’t know how to explain the bulletproof.

Love how you’re jumping at the only person who will not vote you :lul
 
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