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[Fujitora]

Eventually.

Lol I never really have thoughts or reads day 1.

So why are you voting Ekko?

 

[Sigismund]

So why are you voting Ekko?

1/2 because its Usopp.
1/2 because he complained about the votes being via poll

 

[Fujitora]

1/2 because its Usopp.
1/2 because he complained about the votes being via poll

Who do you feel should be the lynch today?

 

[Sigismund]

Who do you feel should be the lynch today?

Not really leaning anyway from what I've seen thusfar.

 

[Fujitora]

Not really leaning anyway from what I've seen thusfar.

Aight.

 

[Iwandesu]

im personally not a fan of poll voting at all

Agreed I understand it is easier but I really would appreciate if people bothered vote lynching

 

[Iwandesu]

it's time to evolve, old man

[Vote Lynch Vivo]

 

[Iwandesu]

its harder to vote track

i wouldnt know the past votes of anyone

kinda lame

Precisely
There is no visible pattern

 

[Iwandesu]

I'm agreeing too much with usoop lol

 

[Iwandesu]

Either I'm getting power wolfed or he is getting good

 

[Iwandesu]

you could record it yourself like when you went from yourself to flower or oni went from flower to lm

Yeah but this is 1: much harder 2) unreliable

 

[Iwandesu]

That is fair actually, but Nitty said he would post EOP vote counts.

Is @nitty keeping up with the vote changes ?

 

[Iwandesu]

@Shizune

 

[Iwandesu]

its bad to reveal any info due to Aizen but if it catches a scum, i would encourage it as long they're 100% sure. I wouldnt recommend revealing your role though

Also given that Aizen is in the game , i think even D2 we shouldn’t hint or claim our roles, just action claim if you really need to and thats it.

Ok so which of you guys is Aizen and which is mafia ?

 

[Fujitora]

Is @nitty keeping up with the vote changes ?

Idk about that one.

Ok so which of you guys is Aizen and which is mafia ?

I’m none of those

 

[Fujitora]

Guys , guys! I’m Aizen

 

[Hayumi]

Wtf

 

[Fujitora]

Wtf

Oh shit im gonna be modkilled now, can’t claim after all

 

[Hayumi]

Oh shit im gonna be modkilled now, can’t claim after all

In that case I’m counter claiming you beetch. Im in fact the only real Aizen

 

[Fujitora]

In that case I’m counter claiming you beetch. Im in fact the only real Aizen

B-brother?

 

[Shizune]

Is @nitty keeping up with the vote changes ?

Hell no, half the point of using the poll is I don't gotta do anything

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I'm glad this isn't a busy Day 1, since I was sidelined all day from checking the thread.

It'll make it easier to catch up. In the mean time, any info I need to be made aware of town core @Ekkologix @Natalija

 

[Natalija]

I'm glad this isn't a busy Day 1, since I was sidelined all day from checking the thread.

It'll make it easier to catch up. In the mean time, any info I need to be made aware of town core @Ekkologix @Natalija

I was only skimming a bit

Some people are voting Susopp
Flowa is sad she can’t claim instantly

… The usual.

 

[John Wayne]

Flowa is sad she can’t claim instantly

Why would you even want to claim

Aizen takes full control of your role and gets closer to his wincon

 

[Natalija]

Why would you even want to claim

Aizen takes full control of your role and gets closer to his wincon

She wants to be ~confirmed town~

 

[Shrike]

Guys , guys! I’m Aizen

What the fuck. This is also indirect claiming. What a weak ass play to circumvent sus.

 

[Shrike]

Susop looks weird as hell

Could be anything, mostly fluff, dropped a vote on me, town read a few sus people, but I agree with his Ratchet is scum read. In fact, I think Ratchet and Lind are teammates.

But LM still doesn't look any better. My vote isn't moving for now.

 

[Shrike]

Nah

Shrike made a post that said nothing of value, Ratchet called him out on it.

Then Ratchet went after Flower for saying she would be afk but really isnt.

Feels like he’s trying to find something that sticks, neutral on both atm.

Find me a post where you compare that post of mine with nothing of value and your post which is "valuable". I'll wait.

 

[Shrike]

Vivo said something weird about the role revealing and dipped.

I bet at least one scum is hiding behind the poll discussion fluff.

 

[Natalija]

Susop looks weird as hell

Could be anything, mostly fluff, dropped a vote on me, town read a few sus people, but I agree with his Ratchet is scum read. In fact, I think Ratchet and Lind are teammates.

But LM still doesn't look any better. My vote isn't moving for now.

Why do you think LM looks bad?

 

[Shrike]

Why do you think LM looks bad?

Strange joke attempts, looks kinda shaky in his posts. He is naturally sus because people think he's feigning contribution (whereas sometimes it's just his usual way to confirm some things) but he dipped when he was sused and then reappeared a lot later to say that he isn't in the mood.

While I like giving people the space because rl>>game, the appeal to emotion after the previous performance just makes me more sus tbh.

 

[Shrike]

Also something is weird in general in the game. Scum is either power wolfing or is generally okay with the votes as they are now. Maybe I am off the mark

 

[Lord Melkor]

maybe everyone should drop their vote here then add it to poll i guess, that way more trackable

Sounds fair in terms of tracking vote changes at least.

 

[Natalija]

Strange joke attempts, looks kinda shaky in his posts. He is naturally sus because people think he's feigning contribution (whereas sometimes it's just his usual way to confirm some things) but he dipped when he was sused and then reappeared a lot later to say that he isn't in the mood.

While I like giving people the space because rl>>game, the appeal to emotion after the previous performance just makes me more sus tbh.

I don’t know, he seems kinda fine to me now

 

[Natalija]

Also something is weird in general in the game. Scum is either power wolfing or is generally okay with the votes as they are now. Maybe I am off the mark

It’s too soon for them to worry over the votes. Or they’re super pleased with them

But we will shake it up

 

[Lord Melkor]

@Kvothe Kingkiller what's your stance on players revealing information about their role?

Why you adressed this question to Kvothe specifically?

 

[Lord Melkor]

these two posts aew interdasting

Raises any red flags for you?

 

[Natalija]

Vivo is not, not the way to go

 

[Lord Melkor]

Btw does this game have any abilities that might redirect lynches? I didn’t read all the roles.

I recall only one of godfathers (Crocodile) being lynch immune. This is fairly light role madness.

 

[Vivo Diez]

What are you talking about, we cannot reveal anything today as i understand.

No shit, but how people approach to answer the question is informative.

 

[Cooler]

Good morning all.

 

[Lord Melkor]

I don’t know, he seems kinda fine to me now

I think you are pretty good at reading me.

I have town reads on you and Hayumi so far. Propably Tiffany is also town.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Vivo is not, not the way to go

So you town read him? I was not sure where he was leading with some of his comments and vague questions.

 

[Lord Melkor]

So Ekkologix is leading, not sure if he is way to go...

 

[Shrike]

So Ekkologix is leading, not sure if he is way to go...

He might be scum but so far there's no way to read him, he isn't the way to go today.

[Change Vote Lynch Ratchet]

 

[Shrike]

Good morning all.

Voting Usopp as a policy lynch is a little bit outdated, don't you think?

 

[Cooler]

Voting Usopp as a policy lynch is a little bit outdated, don't you think?

Disagree.

 

[Lord Melkor]

He might be scum but so far there's no way to read him, he isn't the way to go today.

[Change Vote Lynch Ratchet]

Just made quick ISO on Ratchet and he went after you and Flower. You think this was fake scumhunting?

 

[Natalija]

So you town read him? I was not sure where he was leading with some of his comments and vague questions.

Oh yes. He’s being his town self A LOT

 

[Natalija]

I think you are pretty good at reading me.

I have town reads on you and Hayumi so far. Propably Tiffany is also town.

Don’t make me doubt myself now!

 

[Natalija]

@Tiffany are you sad you only have one vote, and it isn’t me?

 

[Lind]

In fact, I think Ratchet and Lind are teammates.

If Ratchet is town, then he and I are teammates. But I wasn't defending him. Just stating what I observed him doing and assumed he was trying something his own way.

 

[Shrike]

Just made quick ISO on Ratchet and he went after you and Flower. You think this was fake scumhunting?

I already explained this: he seems to have been looking for a quick and aggressive push and then bailed the moment they didn't stick. Lind's soft defense of him and his attitude which seems kinda fake in general gave a feeling they are scummates.

 

[Shrike]

If Ratchet is town, then he and I are teammates. But I wasn't defending him. Just stating what I observed him doing and assumed he was trying something his own way.

Hey you just appeared. That wording is even more sus.

 

[Shrike]

Got them guys

 

[Natalija]

isn't that a good thing for you

Nah, it makes me think like they have TMI since they aren’t paranoid about me and I haven’t done anything to get a town read

 

[Natalija]

Hey you just appeared. That wording is even more sus.

Wanna lynch Lindy

 

[Lind]

Kvothe... feels off to me? I'm having trouble reading her easily as town as I did last game. Sigi has had mainly fluff posts so far and Iwan has that suspicious post going for him.

Disregarding his activity, his other posts have been mechanic, flavor and poll talk. He gave a town read on Ratchet too soon imo.

 

[Lind]

Hey you just appeared. That wording is even more sus.

Yess! I just appeared. I don't think the wording is more sus at all until you substantiate why the wording is suspicious.

Nah, it makes me think like they have TMI since they aren’t paranoid about me and I haven’t done anything to get a town read

I didn't see you pushing them for a reason either. In fact I pushed Flower asking why she town reads you, but she didn't reply.

 

[Lind]

[Vote Lynch TAC]

 

[Natalija]

I didn't see you pushing them for a reason either. In fact I pushed Flower asking why she town reads you, but she didn't reply.

I won’t ask cause there are no reasons and it’s all just gut talks

 

[Shrike]

Wanna lynch Lindy

Yeah but I hate that we can't lynch his scumbuddy as well.

 

[Lind]

I won’t ask cause there are no reasons and it’s all just gut talks

Gut reads usually stem from something. There should have been a post or two that made them give you a town read.

@Flower @Kvothe Kingkiller any reason for a town read?

 

[Lord Melkor]

[change vote Lynch Ratchet]

 

[Natalija]

Yeah but I hate that we can't lynch his scumbuddy as well.

Let’s do it

 

[Shizune]

Votes locked in a little under four hours. Consult the game start post for the countdown link.​

 

[Lind]

Nat voting me when she doesn't have a case on me kek. Sheeping much.

 

[Shrike]

[change vote Lynch Ratchet]

Go Lind, he's at least active. Let's shake that nest. We'll get Ratchet tomorrow.

Let’s do it

Aye aye.

Nat voting me when she doesn't have a case on me kek. Sheeping much.

I don't think she's sheeping, she legit gut suses you bases on your posts, which kinda do show you pretty scummy bruv.

 

[Lind]

Go Lind, he's at least active. Let's shake that nest. We'll get Ratchet tomorrow.


Aye aye.


I don't think she's sheeping, she legit gut suses you bases on your posts, which kinda do show you pretty scummy bruv.

It doesn't actually show that I'm scummy, though. Like I said, gut reads stem from something.

1) Tone, gut, instinct.. whatever you call it. They don't come out of thin air. Reads without substantiation is what scum use to push cases and lynches on players.

2) Not to mention, the case of Ratchet and me being buddies can only be the case when I oppose his wagon, or hard defend him against any accusation. So far, though, I have only defended my own point of why I thought his aggressiveness was him trying to push the day phase.

3) Gut reads is a poor read to push on. Why? Because it's based on subjectivity. Subjective reads can only be called out after they have been proven wrong.

From the above three points, clearly, the only push on me based on gut and scum buddy with ratchet can be a scum motivated push.

 

[John Wayne]

I think both Lind and Ratchet are town

 

[Lind]

@Shrike you should also agree that lynching me to verify a scum buddy scenario with Ratchet is weak. You can't form a correlation between Ratchet and me irrespective of what I flip.

1) I flip scum - I could be buddying a townie.
2) I flip town - still no read on Ratchet. I could have read him wrong.
3) If you think that Ratchet and me are scum together, our interaction in the beginning makes no sense. I would not call out Iwan, and make Ratchet call me out on not substantiating it. I would not call out Ratchet to specify the difference between his push of Flower and your early read of Flower.

Don't know why you are disregarding this, but you and Nat pushing based on the scum buddy thing isn't really optimal.

 

[Cooler]

Votes locked in a little under four hours. Consult the game start post for the countdown link.​

Wtf didn't realise I missed so much of the phase

I'm literally on my way into work as well...

 

[Shrike]

It doesn't actually show that I'm scummy, though. Like I said, gut reads stem from something.

1) Tone, gut, instinct.. whatever you call it. They don't come out of thin air. Reads without substantiation is what scum use to push cases and lynches on players.

2) Not to mention, the case of Ratchet and me being buddies can only be the case when I oppose his wagon, or hard defend him against any accusation. So far, though, I have only defended my own point of why I thought his aggressiveness was him trying to push the day phase.

3) Gut reads is a poor read to push on. Why? Because it's based on subjectivity. Subjective reads can only be called out after they have been proven wrong.

From the above three points, clearly, the only push on me based on gut and scum buddy with ratchet can be a scum motivated push.

Man it's day 1. What do you expect? Some elaborate proof? I know how gut reads work, in fact in all games I played I mostly went with gut. Even when I was scum I'd try to rub off of town by doing gut reads.

@Shrike you should also agree that lynching me to verify a scum buddy scenario with Ratchet is weak. You can't form a correlation between Ratchet and me irrespective of what I flip.

1) I flip scum - I could be buddying a townie.
2) I flip town - still no read on Ratchet. I could have read him wrong.
3) If you think that Ratchet and me are scum together, our interaction in the beginning makes no sense. I would not call out Iwan, and make Ratchet call me out on not substantiating it. I would not call out Ratchet to specify the difference between his push of Flower and your early read of Flower.

Don't know why you are disregarding this, but you and Nat pushing based on the scum buddy thing isn't really optimal.

What the hell, I am not trying to get you lynched because I want to verify a link, you are just sus in general, just look at that explanation for soft defending Ratchet

 

[Shrike]

I think both Lind and Ratchet are town

Okay but why?

 

[Lind]

Man it's day 1. What do you expect? Some elaborate proof? I know how gut reads work, in fact in all games I played I mostly went with gut. Even when I was scum I'd try to rub off of town by doing gut reads.

So you know that gut reads are used by scum? So what exactly was suspicious in my posts that you said Nat gut read as scummy?

What the hell, I am not trying to get you lynched because I want to verify a link, you are just sus in general, just look at that explanation for soft defending Ratchet

What is this? You're not lynching to verify a link? Then what were these posts before:

In fact, I think Ratchet and Lind are teammates.

Yeah but I hate that we can't lynch his scumbuddy as well.

Then the second part of your sentence tells me again that I was soft defending Ratchet, which aligns with your two posts I quoted above, but you say that you're not lynching to verify a link?

That's not possible here, Shrike. You are lynching to verify a link, but you're lynching the wrong guy and it feels like weak backtracking here.

 

[Natalija]

Nat voting me when she doesn't have a case on me kek. Sheeping much.

How am I sheeping if I am the first one to vote you

 

[John Wayne]

Okay but why?

Because both you them mirror many of my own thoughts

 

[Lind]

I'm not liking my interaction with Shrike here. He could be scum tbh. Not sure how I feel about Nat just following him.

 

[John Wayne]

Yasssss

Guys guys

This means no bolding on mobile

It must be lonely when you’re a mod and don’t have rose peddles

It’s REFRESHING

I was just about to tell him how lame he was for abandoning his scummates last few times

I’ve been calling petals peddles and @TheAncientCenturion didn’t correct me

Yeah Lind, spin the knife you stabbed me with

Why am I getting town read wtf

Yes, I love it

I was only skimming a bit

Some people are voting Susopp
Flowa is sad she can’t claim instantly

… The usual.

She wants to be ~confirmed town~

Why do you think LM looks bad?

I don’t know, he seems kinda fine to me now

It’s too soon for them to worry over the votes. Or they’re super pleased with them

But we will shake it up

Vivo is not, not the way to go

Oh yes. He’s being his town self A LOT

Don’t make me doubt myself now!

@Tiffany are you sad you only have one vote, and it isn’t me?

Nah, it makes me think like they have TMI since they aren’t paranoid about me and I haven’t done anything to get a town read

Wanna lynch Lindy

I won’t ask cause there are no reasons and it’s all just gut talks

Let’s do it

How am I sheeping if I am the first one to vote you

[Vote Lynch Natalija]

 

[Lind]

@Ekkologix @OniKaido @Flower @A I Z E N @Hayumi @Tiffany @John Wayne come vote Shrike or Nat with me.

I'm having a strong feeling one of them is scum.