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All I’m trying to say is that I believe the lord is important.

I have NEVER been in a Nitty game where lore wasn’t Uber important.

Admitting Ahri isn’t pro-Town just means she isn’t town in a Nitty game as far as I’m concerned.

BUT I do believe you’re Indie.

I already know how this ends though. You flip scum/indie and I get suss’d for not voting you or you flip town and I get called scum hiding in easy bandwagon and end up in the same boat.

@Lewd my Winter’s Bite is my thing I claimed earlier.



TLDR: Lore matters in Nitty games. Wikipedia everything you get. It’ll make your life easier. This why I believe Ahri is indie.
 
I do believe that someone is lying and that it's fair to assume mafia has a support or indie who leans towards their way. One of these guys could even be lying about their win con honestly.

What's everyone's scum reads do far?

I have franky regardless of his claims, his reactions and sketchy post just seem off.

I still don't like odds jittery play and how it seems to have calmed down after negative feedback.

And I have chaos now for.wanting more than what should've been given, it is true that more was probably necessary but if that's the case we should've done the same to other than that one poster. It's a bad move though because of the consequences that come along with it, revealing so much to mafia.

Ratchets post was good, very informative and insightful but it was the first post for them. If you had time to get all of that you had time to post before that and then claim you were sleepy. Just a thought.
 
Franky said:
All I’m trying to say is that I believe the lord is important.

I have NEVER been in a Nitty game where lore wasn’t Uber important.

Admitting Ahri isn’t pro-Town just means she isn’t town in a Nitty game as far as I’m concerned.

BUT I do believe you’re Indie.

I already know how this ends though. You flip scum/indie and I get suss’d for not voting you or you flip town and I get called scum hiding in easy bandwagon and end up in the same boat.

@Lewd my Winter’s Bite is my thing I claimed earlier.



TLDR: Lore matters in Nitty games. Wikipedia everything you get. It’ll make your life easier. This why I believe Ahri is indie.
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oh I thought that would be Concussive blows
 
MAD said:
I mean, I hoped you guys would understand why I would think there’s probsbly a mafia support when I believed there to be 3 supports, given that I am indie support.

Therefore I find it strange that one could lean towards believing that I’m indie, not scum, but not think that if there’s an indie support...it’s very likely there’s a mafia support.

There are actually at least four supports, but my point remains: I think it’s quite likely one of them are actually hostile (hint: its not me) to you guys.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe that there’s at least one ‘type’, ‘position’, or ‘class’ in the scumteam. That’s the point I’m trying to make.
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I've seen it a few times, but where are you getting the number of supports from?
 
poutanko said:
I trust Mel's indie claim. She got like 12 votes or so real fast. Idk if she's really Survivor or not tho, but most likely Indie as she claimed to be :kermitthink
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Hmmm the question is if she's survivor or not though. I'm not sure what you're going with "I trust Mel's indie claim" as if that matters, when it includes hostile ones. Do you believe her or not?

Also what do you make of the other two?
Oddjutsu said:
I have a big scum read on Didi, the urge to lynch is strong there
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You aren't lynching Didi. You also aren't lynching anyone on your own, so stop that bullshit with flexing your alleged abilities on us.
 
novaselinenever said:
Hmmm the question is if she's survivor or not though. I'm not sure what you're going with "I trust Mel's indie claim" as if that matters, when it includes hostile ones. Do you believe her or not?

Also what do you make of the other two?

You aren't lynching Didi. You also aren't lynching anyone on your own, so stop that bullshit with flexing your alleged abilities on us.
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If she's hostile aka scum, it makes more sense to not counterclaim like that (especially with shady character like Ahri) which more likely get her lynched. I believe she's either telling the truth as Survivor or actually Jester (not sure to call Jester as Indie or 3p) :kannasip

Kira fits better as normal Survivor. He claimed the 3rd and pretty chill with his claim, he said he could die just fine and can win as long as the player he choose survive (or win?). I incline to believe him.

WAD is the question mark here, his character based on lore fits but if he's mafia he can just say whatever to explain how he survive for a long time or if he fail/succeed to protect someone. Since he claimed indie aka Guilty result, what proof do we have if he's Indie or actually scum? His character is not shady like Mel tho, so idk.
 
poutanko said:
If she's hostile aka scum, it makes more sense to not counterclaim like that (especially with shady character like Ahri) which more likely get her lynched. I believe she's either telling the truth as Survivor or actually Jester (not sure to call Jester as Indie or 3p) :kannasip
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So the only reason you believe her claim is that it wouldn't make sense for her to do what she has done if she were scum. It's not making much sense for me either, but it's also a big dose of wifom either way.

What about her ability claim though? Do you buy a survivor that can redirect kills against them every single day, and for two cycle?
poutanko said:
Kira fits better as normal Survivor. He claimed the 3rd and pretty chill with his claim, he said he could die just fine and can win as long as the player he choose survive (or win?). I incline to believe him.
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Noice. If the player he choose has to win, then he isn't really neutral indie but pro-town since he can only choose Innocent players, which would be cool. There were Indies in the RPG game that had to see the King survive 'till end game, and they win. So it's something that Shizune has done before.
poutanko said:
WAD is the question mark here, his character based on lore fits but if he's mafia he can just say whatever to explain how he survive for a long time or if he fail/succeed to protect someone. Since he claimed indie aka Guilty result, what proof do we have if he's Indie or actually scum? His character is not shady like Mel tho, so idk.
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What's the conclusion here, lol? MAD isn't a player as scum who would hide as Survivor, he'd probably want to lead imo so yeah I wouldn't tinfoil his claim as some ballsy play. His secondary win-con alongside abilities and effects are believable for now.
 
novaselinenever said:
So the only reason you believe her claim is that it wouldn't make sense for her to do what she has done if she were scum. It's not making much sense for me either, but it's also a big dose of wifom either way.

What about her ability claim though? Do you buy a survivor that can redirect kills against them every single day, and for two cycle?

Noice. If the player he choose has to win, then he isn't really neutral indie but pro-town since he can only choose Innocent players, which would be cool. There were Indies in the RPG game that had to see the King survive 'till end game, and they win. So it's something that Shizune has done before.

What's the conclusion here, lol? MAD isn't a player as scum who would hide as Survivor, he'd probably want to lead imo so yeah I wouldn't tinfoil his claim as some ballsy play. His secondary win-con alongside abilities and effects are believable for now.
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Bolded: so you yourself thinking the same yet you question me wat :catdude

It can be proven if we're willing to spend our resources on her (I'd rather not) by forcing her to keep rating scummy looking player/1 of claimed survivor to be 100% safe and shoot her. Was thinking she might be maf but people voted her fast (12 or so in just few hours), looks like she's alone here. The way her ability works does make her capable to survive from getting killed, a bit like ToS Survivor (3 or 4 BP shots) than weak Survivor in normal generic game. 2 cycles is a bit too much tho.

This is my 1st Nitty's game dunno what to expect, just say it from what I think make sense or not :oldshrug
 
poutanko said:
Bolded: so you yourself thinking the same yet you question me wat :catdude
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Lol, what? Why didn't you bold the following line, where I mention that it's a lot of Wifom so it's just making me reluctant and I'm not basing all my thoughts on it unlike you :blobglare
poutanko said:
It can be proven if we're willing to spend our resources on her (I'd rather not) by forcing her to keep rating scummy looking player/1 of claimed survivor to be 100% safe and shoot her. Was thinking she might be maf but people voted her fast (12 or so in just few hours), looks like she's alone here. The way her ability works does make her capable to survive from getting killed, a bit like ToS Survivor (3 or 4 BP shots) than weak Survivor in normal generic game. 2 cycles is a bit too much tho.

This is my 1st Nitty's game dunno what to expect, just say it from what I think make sense or not :oldshrug
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That proves the ability exists, but not that the claim is true. Could be cult leader ability fitting her flavor claim. It's not really comparable to ToS survivor since this isn't an X-shot. She claimed being able to do it every day. So she's basically a survivor that is immune to kills if I'm understanding it right.

But eh, enough about her. You ignored the Mad part
 
novaselinenever said:
Lol, what? Why didn't you bold the following line, where I mention that it's a lot of Wifom so it's just making me reluctant and I'm not basing all my thoughts on it unlike you :blobglare

That proves the ability exists, but not that the claim is true. Could be cult leader ability fitting her flavor claim. It's not really comparable to ToS survivor since this isn't an X-shot. She claimed being able to do it every day. So she's basically a survivor that is immune to kills if I'm understanding it right.

But eh, enough about her. You ignored the Mad part
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If it doesn't make sense then what other explanation might exist then? Her claim made her more than likely getting lynched. Period.

I answered the MAD (and Kira) part on the last line, combine it with my previous post then you should get it :blobglare
 
poutanko said:
If it doesn't make sense then what other explanation might exist then? Her claim made her more than likely getting lynched. Period.
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True that, but not everything has to make sense especially when it's related to the motives and actions of a player.
poutanko said:
I answered the MAD (and Kira) part on the last line, combine it with my previous post then you should get it :blobglare
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That's not an answer, it's an excuse :blobglare
 
poutanko said:
I ask you again, what other explanation might exist here?
What other possibilities that you have in mind? Explain it.
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For her motives? I have none. It doesn't make much sense for her to counter-claim MAD imo, unless she's truthful or has another agenda. Not just with the flavor she's claiming, but also going against him D1. The last reason is why it's unlikely it's just a power-play from her.

If that was everything, I would believe her but her abilities and the flavor itself are making that impossible. Survivor being bulletproof every day is bullshit.
 
novaselinenever said:
For her motives? I have none. It doesn't make much sense for her to counter-claim MAD imo, unless she's truthful or has another agenda. Not just with the flavor she's claiming, but also going against him D1. The last reason is why it's unlikely it's just a power-play from her.

If that was everything, I would believe her but her abilities and the flavor itself are making that impossible. Survivor being bulletproof every day is bullshit.
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So your opinion is actually the same as me? Or you don't see her as possible Jester at all?
 
novaselinenever said:
Not really. The second part is tougher to digest, so I don't believe her.

That would be an explanation for all the messy, so could be. It would be lame though.
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Okay, so in the end your opinion is the same as me. You said it's lame, but you didn't provide other explanation why she did what she did. Parroting what I said about her being either honest or Jester.
You scum this game?
 
poutanko said:
Okay, so in the end your opinion is the same as me. You said it's lame, but you didn't provide other explanation why she did what she did. Parroting what I said about her being either honest or Jester.
You scum this game?
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What are you talking about? The lame part is about if she's Jester since it's a lame win-con.
I didn't provide other explanation since there are none. You can't provide explanation for the behavior of players. It's a lot of wifom.
I didn't really parrot anything. I agreed that her behavior doesn't make sense, because I'm trying to take everything into account and what she did doesn't.

You're taking into account just her behavior. Since her claim doesn't make sense, and you can't explain her behavior, that means she's truthful, or apparently Jester. That is real dumb seeing her flavor and ability claim.

Nope, are you?
 
novaselinenever said:
What are you talking about? The lame part is about if she's Jester since it's a lame win-con.
I didn't provide other explanation since there are none. You can't provide explanation for the behavior of players. It's a lot of wifom.
I didn't really parrot anything. I agreed that her behavior doesn't make sense, because I'm trying to take everything into account and what she did doesn't.

You're taking into account just her behavior. Since her claim doesn't make sense, and you can't explain her behavior, that means she's truthful, or apparently Jester. That is real dumb seeing her flavor and ability claim.

Nope, are you?
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@poutanko
 
novaselinenever said:
What are you talking about? The lame part is about if she's Jester since it's a lame win-con.
I didn't provide other explanation since there are none. You can't provide explanation for the behavior of players. It's a lot of wifom.
I didn't really parrot anything. I agreed that her behavior doesn't make sense, because I'm trying to take everything into account and what she did doesn't.

You're taking into account just her behavior. Since her claim doesn't make sense, and you can't explain her behavior, that means she's truthful, or apparently Jester. That is real dumb seeing her flavor and ability claim.

Nope, are you?
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If there are no other explanation then what the fuck is your point by questioning my thought of her?
And I've explained to Lewd why Ahri could be a fake claim from Mel to get herself lynched if she's Jester unless you didn't read the thread.
 
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