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Drago
Lelouch vi Britannia Commands You!
What makes Sin's response to Cooler questionable?only basis to sus sinraven rn is his response to cooler's sus.
unless cooler's actions is a shift in his playstyle or this is sinraven's first game with him, then his response to being sussed is in question. Pretty clear cooler did it for reactions but he took it seriously
Kvothe Kingkiller
Well-Known Member
tinky winky
Simpji
he felt a need to clear his name/justify himself to a strategy that is used to usually get reactions. scum is usually the most uncomfortable on the first day. His reaction is exactly what I expect from someone who is suspicious unless ofc he isnt aware of how cooler plays which I doubt.
SinRaven
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You got that from my one post to Cooler? Dont put words in my mouth. I simply responded to Coolers post with that question to create some discussion.
SinRaven
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Very much so, yes. Melodie has been very evasive so far and we cant let her get by like that any longer. LYNCH HER!
Mexikorn
Sun
[Vote Lynch Ratchet]
Ill not unvote btw
Are you Indie?
Why should we not off you
Ill not unvote btw
Are you Indie?
Why should we not off you
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
No, I'm Town. And how do you expect me to answer that? I can't defend without anything to defend against. That's a useless question.
Mexikorn
Sun
Are you of any help to town if we don't vote for you
It seems you're implying you're not
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
I... what? Where are you getting this implication from? What is your argument even supposed to be here?
Lowkey there's no point in questioning it because no answer would be satisfactory.
Cooler
Well-Known Member
COCKOLOGIST is gone? 
Man was talking sense.
Man was talking sense.Cooler
Well-Known Member
Because of the way he responded to my banter/bait.
SinRaven
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I dont like how you call it banter/bait. Is not every post in this thread relevant?
Is it really that scummy of me to question which one of those posts seems most scummy to you? Do you not want to promote discussion?
Cooler
Well-Known Member
It's the only thing that's pinged me so far - I didn't say it was that scummy. Also would you not say that me pushing you promotes discussion?
SinRaven
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I dont feel like you really pushed for me, but this argument in itself is proof of you promoting discussion, so I'll drop it at that.
SinRaven
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But is it the most scummy thing you have seen so far in the thread?
Cooler
Well-Known Member
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
I think Cockologist just got banned for his name, my usertitle 12 inch clit was reported and removed by mods. Somebody out there has no sense of humour.
Lord Melkor
Well-Known Member
He compared Cooler's possible tactic in this game to Okosan's tactic in the previous game we both played where Osokan was Mafia flagbearer and passed himself sucessfully as town leader. Of course, this accusation by Nessos is very reaching at this stage....
Lord Melkor
Well-Known Member
you think Ratchet is scum having powers on number of people which voted for her and is blatant enough to pretend that this is town power?
Lord Melkor
Well-Known Member
Why SinRaven over Nessos, who also reacted to your posts?
Lord Melkor
Well-Known Member
[Vote Lynch Ratchet[
Cooler
Well-Known Member
Because it was a different kind of interaction? Nessos was questioning my playstyle so far, whereas SinRaven didn't laugh off my nudge like the others.
Cooler
Well-Known Member
Aside from Odd you guys seem way too trusting...
Mexikorn
Sun
Trusting how?
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
[Vote Lynch Santi]
Cooler
Well-Known Member
We don't know what his alignment is or what his ability is and ya'll are just giving him what he wants.
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
WolfPrinceKiba
Dog of War
Okosan tried to make themselves look townie by acting like they had some amazing townie insight into the mechanics of the setup, then went onto tunnel an easy target in Shizune. They were pushed as being townie for this by two scum in Kvothe and LM, and called out for it by the two best scumhunters in that lineup(myself and Cooler).
Cooler's early activity isn't in the same vein, and this is bad shade towards him.
Not me, I had the bird down as scum, just was lazy and also didn't care if they won as scum as it might be a nice confidence boost going into Champs.Don't we all
While it's too late to do anything about the votes made today towards this, don't follow this in the future. If we make anymore votes toward Ratchet it should be to actually lynch them if we believe that their role is a scum one. A vig is another option yet less reliable.
If they're a pro-town role I am fine with them being useless mechanically, town's power is the lynch and without the particulars we don't know if Ratchet's ability is universally useful or still would rely on good reads. The benefit of their potential town role is far outweighed by the negative consequences of their potential scum role.
Space this gag got old two games ago.
Why do you jump immediately to them being indie, rather than just a scum role? Mafia roles have had vote fuckery abilities as well.
If they're town or a pro-town indie they are of potential help to town just by their vote and in-thread contributions, regardless of abilities.
[Vote Lynch NoYouCantChangeNamesOnNF]
WolfPrinceKiba
Dog of War
Scum confirmed by choosing a weaboo song rather than a classic :
Would even have accepted the Scarjo version.
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
What if I told you it would help you trust in me?
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
How dare you trash my waifu's insert song.
SinRaven
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So are you gonna be lazy this game as well or is this a game finally worthy of your amazing scumhunting abilities?
SinRaven
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Girl it got old like 6 fucking years ago but that ain't stopping me and you know it
SinRaven
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I know what he meant I just dont see how it's even worth mentioning it because of it being such a reach
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
Oh BTW, if you want to stack votes with the intent to lynch, by all means do so. I'm extremely confident I can defend against it once I've ten votes. I'm trying to min max by delaying it but if it must be done Day 1, so be it. I will just add that if I were to still bee lynched afterwards, it would not be a "me" problem. I just ask you do so quickly enough so there is enough time to remove the votes afterwards.
SinRaven
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Not much actually
SinRaven
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Are there any cons to you just telling us what your ability is supposed to do with all those votes? You being so vague isn't giving you any merit.
WolfPrinceKiba
Dog of War
My laziness has to do with convincing people to follow my amazing reads, not my ability to have them. I voted Okosan to start d2 that game, just follow my lead come d2 here and my fellow townies will see success. D1 is more hit and miss, but some scum make it so easy like LM.
SinRaven
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Well are you gonna do some convincing then? No one will follow you blindly like this. This game has longer phases like you always want, so I expect -no- DEMAND some actual contributions from you.
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
Yeah, I feel like the vagueness will actually give more useful, natural reactions retroactively, like who comes across as scum trying to mitigate potential damage, and who comes through as Town being genuinely wary. Of course, if my option is "we won't place a single vote on you/will Vig you" if I don't say what it provides, then sure. But that also takes away some of the fun, too. Plus, at least one boon it provides will only really be useful once it's actually in place - me mentioning it beforehand doesn't add anything.
WolfPrinceKiba
Dog of War
You're cute when you act the dom Synnia. We're not yet 24 hours in, and once I have settled into my choice for the day we'll see how much convincing is needed beyond my casing.
Mexikorn
Sun
I just see it more likely that an indie would draw attention to themselves than mafia and i dont see why a townie would need people to vote for him. Thats just my conjecture. Also and therefore, why should we assume indie is pro town
Contributions like what?
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
WolfPrinceKiba
Dog of War
An indie isn't generally going to want to draw negative attention from the mafia, and Ratchet is clearly presenting himself as someone with a powerful ability to help town. Lots of people distrust indies as well in general. Depending on their wincon it might make their chances of winning the game very slim. A singular mafia member is more likely to draw attention to themselves then an indie, as they have a team to fall back on.
I'm not assuming any indie is pro-town. I do think that if Ratchet is an indie, pro-town or not, they're not surviving long.
Actually playing the game, such as scumhunting and giving their input into various discussions.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
Well there's the old I can really help town instead of I can really help us, Ratchet posts like a non town entity
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
Your point?
If this is anything like Laix/Hero roles I halfway expect my role to explode and then for me to come back as some zombie cultist or whatever.
Takes some top tier deduction skills to realize Sin's post is not actually serious. I wouldn't pull that off myself.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
You're indy as fuck and we're letting you run things
Santí
Absolutely Pigdisgusting
WPK and Sin going at each other for stuff that happened in previous games is a royal waste of time and one of them is scum for wasting time and thread space with it. Book it.
Also all this indie hunting irks me.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
Can you change the name to Lan and unban him?
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
This isn't the first game you've played with me. Why are you acting like it is?
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
We is town
SinRaven
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Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
What drugs are you on? I'm not acting like this is the first game with you and how did you come to that conclusion?
Yeah you seem to be asking a lot of questions.
But I don't follow what you intend to do with them. Feels like they are just to make you look like you are doing something. Or have you deduced anything from those?
Cuz so far the only thing you have done was meme vote Melodie, argue with WPK about a past game, and defend yourself. And you are the #2 poster in this game. Are you even scumhunting?
[vote lynch SinRaven]
I have no idea what alignment Ratchet is, I just don't think it's wise to willingly activate his role this early, without knowing what it does or having a better read on Ratchet himself, in a forum that is known for bastard games.
Santí
Absolutely Pigdisgusting
They're waiting on him to pick a new name
SinRaven
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I'm not sure this all is even serious?
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
It's some confusing shit, I'm skipping thinking about it
SinRaven
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Promoting discussion, establishing links between people, etcetera. It's not that difficult tbh. I might not do anything with the answers now, but they're always useful to look at later in the game.
SinRaven
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You are asking people what they think about each other but it doesn't seem you care about their answers. You are just asking to bloat your post count.
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
Whatever I'm on, they're not as lethal to braincells as your vice, that's for sure. You're acting as if you've never played a game with me, because you are using the fact that I refer to Town as a collective rather than a team I'm a part of as evidence for me being not town. Except, I always do this, regardless of alignment. You should know full well the language I use, and my phrasing, and even if you don't remember the particulars, you should remember enough to know I'm not exactly careless with words. Yet here you are, acting clueless, and then suddenly being surprised at me pointing this out. Did you hit your head or something this morning?
Have you estabilished any kind of link yet?
Cuz so far the only think I got is that you wanna lynch Melodie and you wanna argue with WPK about another game.
SinRaven
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I'm not doing this to bloat my post count, this is just how I play mafia darling. This ain't the first time you played with me
SinRaven
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Not yet.
Maybe that's all I did so far in your eyes, but tbh I dont really see how that is suspicious.
Didnt even argue with WPK about another game though, so I think you got the wrong idea from that interaction.
I'm not doing this to bloat my post count, this is just how I play mafia darling. This ain't the first time you played with me
Last time I played you had more edge. You wanted to lynch scum.
Show me the edge, Sin.
Or get lynched.
SinRaven
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Why??
That post of Ratchet gave me town vibes more than anything. I dont think his thought process there was confusing at all.
SinRaven
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Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
Get off the drugs
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
So you haven't got an answer then? Righto.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
Maybe I hit the nail right on the head because you're getting crazy over it
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
You should know full well the language that I use, and my phrasing, and even if you don't remember the particulars, you should remember enough to know I'm not exactly careless with words.
Like what is this high horse shit? Have you never played a game with me before?
Like what is this high horse shit? Have you never played a game with me before?