Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
... what? You haven't been able to answer my question at all, and you're somehow spinning that into a victory for you? That's er, that's not how it works Odd.
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Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
You're projecting here. Me referring to the Town as "the Town" as opposed to "us" or "we" is neither a good nor a bad thing. The issue is you are using base, low-level logic to a situation we're you shouldn't need to, or you should know better on. And you really don't like this being pointed out lol.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
Works for me
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
That's why you are BaM.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
Low level logic, head injuries, brain cell loss, what's not to like?
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
You mean like drugs too? Let's not try to claim the moral high ground here Odd lmao, it doesn't suit you.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
I catch scum all the time off of little shit like what you pulled but in your case Ratchet I'm betting on pro town indy
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
I have more morality in my tiny penis than you have in your entire body
SinRaven
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This seems kinda forced.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
Nah it's consensual
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
Even a broken clock is right twice a day I suppose.
Ishmael
I'm not impressed.
[vote lynch DDL]
I’m getting genuine vibes from
Sin and his reasons for questioning people, generates discussion. Yes scum
Can fake and do the same but it’s early so as of right now I get a good vibe.
Don’t like the player trying to spin it into something else other than that.
Do not care about ratchets claim, not touching it either but I don’t recall them stating they’re indie. Until we get something for sure to help us determine where karma head is l wouldn’t pay it that much attention.
I’m getting genuine vibes from
Sin and his reasons for questioning people, generates discussion. Yes scum
Can fake and do the same but it’s early so as of right now I get a good vibe.
Don’t like the player trying to spin it into something else other than that.
Do not care about ratchets claim, not touching it either but I don’t recall them stating they’re indie. Until we get something for sure to help us determine where karma head is l wouldn’t pay it that much attention.
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
Drago see me as genuine town and sheeping Cooler early on is odd.
Dr. Cock defending ScumRaven in Front of Drago is odd too.
Dr. Cock defending ScumRaven in Front of Drago is odd too.
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
And then we also have Odd who wants to discuss why Drm Cock got banned.
Kvothe Kingkiller
Well-Known Member
perhaps. It just doesn't feel like a scum tactic to me because it seemed bold to outright say it and it's reminded me of a previous nitty's game where the same situation happened with nessos character.
Maybe it was a bold assumption of me but I am thinking of the same vein of that character as well.
SinRaven
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COCKOLIGIST was accusing me rather than defending me, but what about it was odd to you?
SinRaven
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I'm still 50% convinced DDL isn't even being serious like this, his latest post being an indication of it.
He mentions our last game together, which was years ago. I doubt he remembers how I played there. Think he's mocking me.
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
anyone who is getting frustrated with this game is clearly a jungler
TMI?
You were the one who brought up the "you have played with me before" argument, not me.
I'm not doing this to bloat my post count, this is just how I play mafia darling. This ain't the first time you played with me
I don't exactly recall how you play either, I'm just getting a general feeling of "not scumhunting" from you that is characteristic of mafia.
And yes, I'm being serious.
Sin is curently this game's top poster (30) and the only scumhunting he did all game was this post:
[Vote Lynch Melodie]
~Mystic Serenade~
King of the Round
Lynching @Melodie is never a bad thing though 
SinRaven
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Well in that case I think you just have the wrong impression of my playstyle.
SinRaven
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Drago
Lelouch vi Britannia Commands You!
Drago
Lelouch vi Britannia Commands You!
I'm feeling lazy af right now.
Doesn't seem anyone here will be awake at EoD except for Eurasians and the host. So this phase may be shorter in practice than it actually is.
Drago
Lelouch vi Britannia Commands You!
I think the whole argument between Ratchet and Odd is kinda retarded. Not really sure what about Ratchet came off as indie to you guys.
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
What does this have to do with TMI?!?
Actually only read the first part of his Post. That sound for me like "ain't as sus as you want to make it". But yeah the second part is more like an accusation.only basis to sus sinraven rn is his response to cooler's sus.
unless cooler's actions is a shift in his playstyle or this is sinraven's first game with him, then his response to being sussed is in question. Pretty clear cooler did it for reactions but he took it seriously
All kind of one defending another one early on are kind of odd to me. In my opinion its often used by stupid scum to buy towncreds.
Yeah I know there exist also a few stupid player that try to make Friends by playing nice and friendly, but for me that is scummy behaviour.
I think Ratcher is still more likely town than otherwise.
I also thin indie hunting on Day 1 is royal waste of time and people who insist on it should be suspected, because it's in mafia's best interests to indie hunt.
I also thin indie hunting on Day 1 is royal waste of time and people who insist on it should be suspected, because it's in mafia's best interests to indie hunt.
I'm asking if you think the people you are pointing at may be scum defending townies too easily because they know they are town.
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
I used to play in OJ and TB. I am pre-damaged. At These commuties scum either acting superfriendly not doing anything then defending others or scum stayed afk xD
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
Why are you dropping your vote?
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
More than 50% of other players have to vote him once. And you wanna tell me that this sound townish?!? For me it sounds like an Indie wincon.
But in the end I agree with Dragon Dude.
So who cares?
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
oh right ty for reminding me on my skimread who i sussed
[Vote Lynch NoYou]
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
Are you refering to league of legends in general or are you talking about this Mafia game?
Lord Melkor
Well-Known Member
Yes, Cooler is much more active than usual in day one, now what can this mean.....
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
Lord Melkor
Well-Known Member
That is a bit stretching it, I saw people writing like this and they were town.
Lord Melkor
Well-Known Member
Good point actually, though explaining this reasoning weakens the result.
Cooler
Well-Known Member
Could be trying to buddy me by following my push? I pretty much second guess everyones intentions, especially on D1. Not really got a read on him though.
I do kinda agree with him that you've just been asking questions so far, don't feel like I've seen any of your own thoughts.
Your reaction to my vote etc...seems genuine though.
[Unvote]
This is utter bollocks. Much more active? Please.
SinRaven
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[Vote Lynch Kvothe Kingkiller]
She's been skating by with a few meaningless posts and otherwise only had posts about Ratchet.
I think the people who followed Ratchet immediately are generally suspicious. I have to be honest, while I'm always wary of stunts, usually when someone is open about such abilities like Ratchet this early I tend to trust them. But I dont think it's good to follow it without questioning.
I think one of the people who voted Ratchet immediately is scum. If Ratchet is telling the truth then some scum would jump on the opportunity to gain credit (budding Ratchet in a way).
I dont like how Kvothe defended her reason for trusting it this easily, especially because Kvothe could have given that reason while doing the Ratchet vote thing. To me it looks like something she came up with in hindsight.
Added to her skating by and otherwise showing a similar playstyle to the Flagbearer game, I feel like it's time to pressure her.
She's been skating by with a few meaningless posts and otherwise only had posts about Ratchet.
I think the people who followed Ratchet immediately are generally suspicious. I have to be honest, while I'm always wary of stunts, usually when someone is open about such abilities like Ratchet this early I tend to trust them. But I dont think it's good to follow it without questioning.
I think one of the people who voted Ratchet immediately is scum. If Ratchet is telling the truth then some scum would jump on the opportunity to gain credit (budding Ratchet in a way).
I dont like how Kvothe defended her reason for trusting it this easily, especially because Kvothe could have given that reason while doing the Ratchet vote thing. To me it looks like something she came up with in hindsight.
Added to her skating by and otherwise showing a similar playstyle to the Flagbearer game, I feel like it's time to pressure her.
Ratchet
The End and the Beginning
This is a very poorly-conceived argument. For starters, I explicitly stated that unvotes count. That means that I simply need votes from ten players all across the game. Now tell me, does that sound like a sensible win con to you? BTW, it doesn't even have to be ten different players. Just that one player can stack one on me via a vote per day. Hence why I said "easier to manage" by staggering it. Secondly, why on Earth would this be my approach if it was directly tied to my win con as an Indie? At this risk of this being very nearly WIFOM, there would be no reason for me to reveal this information openly. I could just play like scum, botch a counter claim or something, and as votes are stacking up, win the game.
Now I'm not saying you need to just trust me or anything (okay, I kinda am, I'm harmless~). But if your conclusion to my play so far is that I'm Indie in search of my extremely arbitrary, easy win con early, then I have to question your logical process here. Mind walking me through it?
SinRaven
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I dont get that feeling from DDL, but I kinda do from Dragomir, who voted me after you and COCKOLOGIST (can I still call him that?) started to pressure me. I find it weird how he unvoted me without reasoning after DDL pressured me? Or was being lazy the reason? Because in that case I dont get it at all??
Almost seems like he wants to jump off the train before a townie gets lynched.
SinRaven
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Dragomir also voted unvoted Ratchet 
Cooler
Well-Known Member
Santí
Absolutely Pigdisgusting
The sus against Ratchet is weak, scum's tripping on their own toes.
Lord Melkor
Well-Known Member
Okay, I caught up, I have town vibes from SinRaven and I really do not like that attack Dragon D. Luffy did on him. I am inclined to believe Ratchet. I also do not like Oddjutsu's attitude in his exchange with Ratchet though I remember him being very agressive in games he was town.
[Change Vote Lynch Dragon D. Luffy]
[Change Vote Lynch Dragon D. Luffy]
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
Are you buddying me Melkor?
Cooler
Well-Known Member
I took his vote you on as more of a pressure and/or joke vote.
You could ask him? Seems to be your meta this game lol.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
There it is, gotcha Santi
SinRaven
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Yeah I asked him why he unvoted but I'm impatient
Kvothe Kingkiller
Well-Known Member
SinRaven
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Yes it's pretty funny that I caught you this early this time huh!
Kvothe Kingkiller
Well-Known Member
Kvothe Kingkiller
Well-Known Member
anyways im not gonna repeat myself as to why i believed ratchet.
ask me whatever you like
ask me whatever you like
SinRaven
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Top two suspects right now and why?
Kvothe Kingkiller
Well-Known Member
SinRaven
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Kvothe Kingkiller
Well-Known Member
its like day 1. im usually shitty at it when im town and i get a more understanding on day 2 when i review posts and stuff
for your sake ill look at their posts on lunch time
FLORIDA MAN
bastard
I’m trying like hell to figure out Ratchet’s character
Kvothe Kingkiller
Well-Known Member
i actually have an idea if its similar to nessos character in nittys game so im kinda curious if ratchets char will show up on writeups
To be fair I'll defend others pretty often as town.
There is a gap between a legit town read and a fabricated one, though. Sometimes that can be noticed.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
Teemo
Sin is looking somewhat better.
Anyone wanna lynch Dragomir? He's guilty of being a sheep and both defending Ratchet and bandwagoning on Ratchet in the same day.
Anyone wanna lynch Dragomir? He's guilty of being a sheep and both defending Ratchet and bandwagoning on Ratchet in the same day.
[vote lynch Dragomir]
Oh I'm an idiot, Dragomir was voting for Ratchet because of his ability thing.
[unvote]
[unvote]
Still think Drago is being a sheep tho. What do y'll think?
Drago
Lelouch vi Britannia Commands You!
I just said why in that post. I think the argument between you and DDL is TvT.
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
Why not nlasking for all 10 votes + unvoted asap?!? Shouldn't be more helpful for town right?
Or 9 votes giving you the 10th when needed.
This slowly stagging smells like utter BS and thats why I don't trust. I have no reason to trust you.
Ishmael
I'm not impressed.
After that thriller bank game with him I think it’s just part of his play. He tends to back or go behind others reasoning.
Shouldn't fault him for having the same ideals as others but can’t let him off the hook for continuously doing it either.
Drago
Lelouch vi Britannia Commands You!
What kinda retarded indie wincon is that? Have players vote for you and you win? That stupid and too easy. That's not even the jester wincon.
There's nothing wrong with a townie having a role that at first has a negative utility for town but gains something positive in return. Not every single town role will have perfect pro-town abilities.
Drago
Lelouch vi Britannia Commands You!
I like the reasons you provided against Sin but I also like Sin's responses and explanation. They feel genuine and come from a town mindset.
Ishmael
I'm not impressed.
Don’t like nessos still poking at the whole ratchet thing. Seems like a way to run up post count, show face and seem productive. Either you believe ratchet or you don’t and you choose to help them or not. Stop talking about something that has been explained already.
Drago
Lelouch vi Britannia Commands You!
Are you talking about my SinRaven vote? I wasn't serious with that. If this is your sole reason to say that I'm a sheep then it's pretty weak.
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
Don't have to be a wincon. Can also be partial wincon but getting half players vote you within in the Game and then asking for stagging it smells like BS for me.
But as I mentioned don't wanna waste anymore time on it, it is end of D1.
Drago
Lelouch vi Britannia Commands You!
No, I don't. I barely sheeped in the Champ game if at all. Every single vote of mine was entirely based off of my own reasoning.
I rarely sheep in games.