Game League of Legends 3 (town+indie win!)

[Drago]

Don't have to be a wincon. Can also be partial wincon but getting half players vote you within in the Game and then asking for stagging it smells like BS for me.

But as I mentioned don't wanna waste anymore time on it, it is end of D1.

There's literally nothing BS about it. Not sure what the problem is with Ratchet's role requiring votes to activate something here.

 

[Drago]

Nothing stands out??

Have any thoughts on @Dragomir, @Oddjutsu and @NoYouCantChangeNamesOnNF?

Did you have to tag us to ask this question?

 

[Ishmael]

Seems like you took it in a different way than I intended. But literally if you reread that game others comment and your main sus came from sheeping. Not throwing shots, simply answering DDLs question.

 

[Drago]

[Vote Lynch Kvothe Kingkiller]

She's been skating by with a few meaningless posts and otherwise only had posts about Ratchet.

I think the people who followed Ratchet immediately are generally suspicious. I have to be honest, while I'm always wary of stunts, usually when someone is open about such abilities like Ratchet this early I tend to trust them. But I dont think it's good to follow it without questioning.

I think one of the people who voted Ratchet immediately is scum. If Ratchet is telling the truth then some scum would jump on the opportunity to gain credit (budding Ratchet in a way).

I dont like how Kvothe defended her reason for trusting it this easily, especially because Kvothe could have given that reason while doing the Ratchet vote thing. To me it looks like something she came up with in hindsight.

Added to her skating by and otherwise showing a similar playstyle to the Flagbearer game, I feel like it's time to pressure her.

I like this post a lot. Makes a lot of sense.

But not feeling the scum direction with Kvothe right now tho. She's basically "meh, whatever" right now. I tend to associate that sort of apathy to a townie that doesn't feel like trying at the moment. She's not trying to force any reads thus far.

 

[Drago]

I dont get that feeling from DDL, but I kinda do from Dragomir, who voted me after you and COCKOLOGIST (can I still call him that?) started to pressure me. I find it weird how he unvoted me without reasoning after DDL pressured me? Or was being lazy the reason? Because in that case I dont get it at all??
Almost seems like he wants to jump off the train before a townie gets lynched.

My vote on you wasn't serious.

 

[Nessos]

SinRaven is where its at.

SinRaven is where it's at.

[Vote Lynch SinRaven]

Drago thats what I would call sheeping. You say Kvothe is scummy, then Cooler told SinRaven is more scummy, then you copy/paste Coolers Post adding your Vote on Raven.

Never explaining your reason. Then you stopped your Vote on SinRaven saying His Argument with Dragon smelled like TvT.

Feels a bit strange.

 

[Ekkologix]

dem thats alot of posts and drama

its just an RNG game take it easy m9s

 

[Nessos]

My vote on you wasn't serious.

If it wasn't meant to be serious why did you give a reason to unvote?

 

[Drago]

Seems like you took it in a different way than I intended. But literally if you reread that game others comment and your main sus came from sheeping. Not throwing shots, simply answering DDLs question.

I got what you were trying to do. I was just correcting you, that's all.

 

[Drago]

If it wasn't meant to be serious why did you give a reason to unvote?

I didn't give a reason to unvote. I gave a reason why I thought the interaction between DDL and Sin was TvT.

 

[Ratchet]

I’m trying like hell to figure out Ratchet’s character

Clue:

Spoiler: The Meme's Name

 

[Ratchet]

Why not nlasking for all 10 votes + unvoted asap?!? Shouldn't be more helpful for town right?

Or 9 votes giving you the 10th when needed.

This slowly stagging smells like utter BS and thats why I don't trust. I have no reason to trust you.

Because as I've said, maybe three times now, it's min maxing for me. Having it all Day 1 means I need ten different players, whereas spreading it out I only need a handful of that. Moreover, parts of the boons it grants me will be better for me the later into the game it is, without being too late to mitigate the other, better boons. I mean, can you provide a single advantage for me to BS about staggering it? I thought you said it was related to my win con? Are you now saying I don't to win as quickly? Your logic makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Oddjutsu]

Anybody understand that?

 

[Nessos]

I thought you said it was related to my win con?

It is an assumption that you might be an Indie and that getting these Vote is somehow related to obtain your wincon.

Did you try progress the game besides defending your stupid ability claim calling anyone "dumbass" who is not not blindly trusting you?

Of course you also made a few fluff Posts besides that.

 

[Nessos]

Anybody understand that?

Understand what?

 

[Oddjutsu]

Understand what?

Ratchets post

 

[Nessos]

Unvote

TvT.

Why are you dropping your vote?

I just said why in that post. I think the argument between you and DDL is TvT.

Are you talking about my SinRaven vote? I wasn't serious with that.

If it wasn't meant to be serious why did you give a reason to unvote?

I didn't give a reason to unvote. I gave a reason why I thought the interaction between DDL and Sin was TvT.

[Vote lynch Dragomir]
I don't like liars. Also I think he tried to deflect by bringing back "Indie" ratcge to let Townies waste time in it.

 

[Ratchet]

It is an assumption that you might be an Indie and that getting these Vote is somehow related to obtain your wincon.

Okay, so explain it then. Like, actually map it out and explain how it makes sense. Because otherwise, you're just throwing something out there without giving it any thought, and hoping it sticks. You can't have it both ways.

Did you try progress the game besides defending your stupid ability claim calling anyone "dumbass" who is not not blindly trusting you?

Well, you seem to be under the impression that there is nothing of worth with what has come out of this. I'd wager quite a lot of worth was produced actually. Also, who have I called a dumbass? You were the first person to use that term. Odd-chan just has a little concussion, that's all.

Of course you also made a few fluff Posts besides that.

Oh no. I must be scum.

 

[Nessos]

I mean
[change vote lynch Dragomir]

 

[Oddjutsu]

Okay, so explain it then. Like, actually map it out and explain how it makes sense. Because otherwise, you're just throwing something out there without giving it any thought, and hoping it sticks. You can't have it both ways.

Well, you seem to be under the impression that there is nothing of worth with what has come out of this. I'd wager quite a lot of worth was produced actually. Also, who have I called a dumbass? You were the first person to use that term. Odd-chan just has a little concussion, that's all.
Oh no. I must be scum.

Oh please, drop the act. You've been calling me a dumb cunt all game

 

[Drago]

[Vote lynch Dragomir]
I don't like liars. Also I think he tried to deflect by bringing back "Indie" ratcge to let Townies waste time in it.

Ok.

 

[Nessos]

Oh no. I must be scum.

Give me one good reason to believe you?
Everything you said could be a lie, right?

Could just be a funny Story, baiting many protects "Town abilitie that requires 10 votes" sounds overpowered.

One can make up everything and I am Not going to blindly trust anyone.

Also, who have I called a dumbass?

You didn't call noone directly dumbass thats why posted "dumbass" in marks. You just defended yourself saying stuff Like w"is the logic?".

 

[Shizune]

Does anyone here have a way to get in touch with @Hayumi? They haven't checked NF since Tuesday and I'm about to replace them.

 

[Nessos]

Does anyone here have a way to get in touch with @Hayumi? They haven't checked NF since Tuesday and I'm about to replace them.

Tried to inform him on OJ discord just now. Maybe he is going to read.

 

[Nessos]

Ok.

Are you now trying to act like a Jester?!?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

dem thats alot of posts and drama

its just an RNG game take it easy m9s

You think this is drama?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@Nessos I don't follow, why do you think Drago is lying?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Don’t like nessos still poking at the whole ratchet thing. Seems like a way to run up post count, show face and seem productive. Either you believe ratchet or you don’t and you choose to help them or not. Stop talking about something that has been explained already.

You really seem to be bothered about people talking and pokeing each other.

 

[Nessos]

@Nessos I don't follow, why do you think Drago is lying?

Read all the quotes.

Drago replied to Sin that his reason for unvoting hin was that the arguement between Sin and you felt TvT.

Now he posted that his Vote gainst Sin was never meanr serious and that he never give a reasoning for unvoting Sin

 

[Ishmael]

You really seem to be bothered about people talking and pokeing each other.

Mechanic/role talk, yeah.

Nice attempt.

 

[Ratchet]

Oh please, drop the act. You've been calling me a dumb cunt all game

I'd never use such vulgar language.

 

[Ratchet]

Give me one good reason to believe you?
Everything you said could be a lie, right?

Could just be a funny Story, baiting many protects "Town abilitie that requires 10 votes" sounds overpowered.

One can make up everything and I am Not going to blindly trust anyone.

So now instead of an indie role, it's a super overpowered town role? I don't get where your head is here. I just don't understand. If there is a point you're making here it's flying right over my head.

 

[Oddjutsu]

Santi is scum by the way

 

[Drago]

Are you now trying to act like a Jester?!?

Bruh.

 

[Ratchet]

Santi is scum by the way

Never </3

 

[Nessos]

So now instead of an indie role, it's a super overpowered town role? I don't get where your head is here. I just don't understand. If there is a point you're making here it's flying right over my head.

Reading comprehension doesn't seem.to be your strength.

Lets try to keep it simple, the way you claimed and act feels strange and I am not going to trust anyone easily.

 

[Nessos]

Bruh.

Meh.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Read all the quotes.

Drago replied to Sin that his reason for unvoting hin was that the arguement between Sin and you felt TvT.

Now he posted that his Vote gainst Sin was never meanr serious and that he never give a reasoning for unvoting Sin

Ok I'll bite. I just wanna lynch drago

[vote lynch Dragomir]

 

[Ishmael]

DDL post seem to have intent and not genuine intent, every post so far comes off as trying to get reactions but follow post show he’s spinning them as well. Very content with votes placed on him.

Reading comprehension doesn't seem.to be your strength.

Lets try to keep it simple, the way you claimed and act feels strange and I am not going to trust anyone easily.

Which has been established from you questioning ratchet back to back. Now do you have any other motive for repeatedly quoting ratchet other than simply saying you don’t trust easily?

half of your post I’m sure are towards or about ratchet and details of that role, why the concern?

 

[Ratchet]

Reading comprehension doesn't seem.to be your strength.

Lets try to keep it simple, the way you claimed and act feels strange and I am not going to trust anyone easily.

My point is you can't keep your story straight. You're grasping at just about everything just to save face. It's perfectly fine to be wary,but it's not fine to create some ridiculous theory and use that to add weight to your beliefs and make them seem like they're more strongly founded than they really are. And at this point, I think I've had enough of prodding you to actually start mapping out your logical process. I can only assume you haven't done so because it simply doesn't exist.

[Vote Lynch Nessos]

 

[Oddjutsu]

Never </3

Are you protecting him?

 

[Nessos]

half of your post I’m sure are towards or about ratchet and details of that role, why the concern?

I wouldn't call "6 of 26" half of my posts.
I am a player pla used to respond to almost everyone who quotes me (and since younalready played with me you should know it)


It started with Drago asking "Why do players believe Ratchet might be an Indie" and I give him an explanation, an explanation Ratchet couldn't accept, followed by Ratchet reacting like a salty Kid whoose Lolly just got stolen.

I told multiple times I don't wanna waste more time on it, but somehow Drago, Ratchet and you still try to argue with me on it.

 

[Ratchet]

Are you protecting him?

I will not have you slander Santi's good name with derogatory terms like "scum". If you must suspect him, I expect "Rogue-looking Gentleman".

 

[Oddjutsu]

I will not have you slander Santi's good name with derogatory terms like "scum". If you must suspect him, I expect "Rogue-looking Gentleman".

Ladies and gentleman, it's a Santi lynch today

 

[Oddjutsu]

The absolute smugness gives it away, to me he sticks out like dogs balls

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

every post so far comes off as trying to get reactions but follow post show he’s spinning them as well.

That's uh... how you play mafia?

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Ratchet vs Nessos looks like town/town

 

[Oddjutsu]

First Santi then Melodie, next I think Cooler, after that Mexikorn and DDL

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Santi is barely even playing the game, dunno how you can actually extract alignment from his posts.

 

[Ishmael]

I wouldn't call "6 of 26" half of my posts.
I am a player pla used to respond to almost everyone who quotes me (and since younalready played with me you should know it)


It started with Drago asking "Why do players believe Ratchet might be an Indie" and I give him an explanation, an explanation Ratchet couldn't accept, followed by Ratchet reacting like a salty Kid whoose Lolly just got stolen.

I told multiple times I don't wanna waste more time on it, but somehow Drago, Ratchet and you still try to argue with me on it.

your last postt was this.

Give me one good reason to believe you?
Everything you said could be a lie, right?

Could just be a funny Story, baiting many protects "Town abilitie that requires 10 votes" sounds overpowered.

One can make up everything and I am Not going to blindly trust anyone.


You didn't call noone directly dumbass thats why posted "dumbass" in marks. You just defended yourself saying stuff Like w"is the logic?".

You said something in response and then once you got answered by ratchet you responded with this.

Reading comprehension doesn't seem.to be your strength.

Lets try to keep it simple, the way you claimed and act feels strange and I am not going to trust anyone easily.

You’re failing to provide reasoning to why you think how you do and seem to be getting agitated. Ratchet seems to be fine in answering your questions, it’s you that looks bad.

I told multiple times I don't wanna waste more time on it, but somehow Drago, Ratchet and you still try to argue with me on it.

we aren’t forcing you to respond.

That's uh... how you play mafia?

Lol. You’re post have questions that can go left or south for that poster it’s been presented to. Little underlined that you can spin into something else basically and that’s scum like to me.


Why try and present someone as something they aren’t?

 

[Cooler]

First Santi then Melodie, next I think Cooler, after that Mexikorn and DDL

This feels like you're pulling names out of a hat.

 

[Oddjutsu]

Santi is barely even playing the game, dunno how you can actually extract alignment from his posts.

It's called skill, can't you tell who scum is just from one post?

 

[Oddjutsu]

This feels like you're pulling names out of a hat.

I've been watching everyone closely all day, congrats for making it into the top 5

 

[Nessos]

Why try and present someone as something they aren’t?

And why are you still acting like I am only focusing on Ratchet?

You basicay accuse me of something you do yourself just now.

 

[Cooler]

I've been watching everyone closely all day, congrats for making it into the top 5

Not even top 3. I'm insulted.

 

[Cooler]

@Oddjutsu

What do you think of ~Mystic Serenade~?

 

[Kvothe Kingkiller]

Nothing stands out??

Have any thoughts on @Dragomir, @Oddjutsu and @NoYouCantChangeNamesOnNF?

aight im here. sort of.

dragomir idk, scum drago in my experience usually disappears after he posts. town drago has more convinction when hes certain and he has backed down before if hes uncertain. kinda leaning him to town but nessos has a point that hes being flippant about his reasons of unvoting.

oddjutsu, neutral. nothing stands out. he had a small interaction with ratchet regarding ratchets word of use of town but i dont think thats sus or anything anyways

is noyoucant a new player? I just looked at his posts but if hes new I dont think a new scum would outright go after an indie and would rather hide. if hes not, then I dont really like his posts that much. it sounds a bit tmi as well by branding rat as indie. He seemed to sorta disappear as well so maybe my theory rings true with him.

 

[Oddjutsu]

@Oddjutsu

What do you think of ~Mystic Serenade~?

Lynching Melodie is never a bad idea, I agree with Mystic

 

[Mexikorn]

Ok so I'm going to bed soon, will try to give my reads tomorrow morning if day phase is still going or barring that the dayphase after. Regarding Ratchet. I think it's a reasonable assumption to make that most people read him as indie rn so watching how people react to him may give insights into the alignments of those players. I was kinda hoping there'd be more of a lynchtrain on him, reasoning being that even more insights could thus be gleamed, but his outing himself with his weird ability caused enough of a ruckus. I may change my vote later but I have no candidate yet as I didn't yet actively scumhunt. So far just taking in impressions and watching the situation from afar so to speak.

And yeah I'm Mexikorn. I just renamed myself cause someone on the ally asked "You can change your names on NF???" to which I replied with "What are you talking about?"

 

[Ratchet]

I think it's a reasonable assumption to make that most people read him as indie rn

I mean, that's just not true lol

 

[Mexikorn]

I mean, that's just not true lol

I transcribe to you (the thread, not you personally) my thoughts, my conjecture. Not "truth". If I say it I think it. If you think Im wrong make a case why that would be so. I will not reply to further posts of this nature.

 

[Ratchet]

I transcribe to you (the thread, not you personally) my thoughts, my conjecture. Not "truth". If I say it I think it. If you think Im wrong make a case why that would be so. I will not reply to further posts of this nature.

I'm not contesting your opinion. I'm contesting your claim that most have read my posts and came to the conclusion I'm some kind of Indie. I actually feel the majority have expressed a Town-read on me. But given that you're the one making the claim here (that Ratchet = Indie is the prevalent mindset), I don't think it's fair to demand I be the one to go and find evidence against it. Show what you're inferring this from first, and then I can explain why I disagree.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

It's called skill, can't you tell who scum is just from one post?

No.

I used to think I could when I was a noob, but after a while I realized I'm not a magical mind reader and that reading people is extremely hard.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Why try and present someone as something they aren’t?

That's like, your opinion. You are deciding who you think is town beforehand and attacking me for not sharing your townreads.

Maybe consider that your townreads may be wrong?

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Teemo

the good ol’ global taunt passive, makes sense he’s asking for votes

Clue:

Spoiler: The Meme's Name

I think i know which champ ur referring to but the problem is i would see that champions abilities lending itself to be great as a scum char so i have to be wrong in 1 of those regards (or else ur scum lol)

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

my champ is cancer

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

@Melodie

Is DDL scum? (iyo)

 

[Oddjutsu]

No.

I used to think I could when I was a noob, but after a while I realized I'm not a magical mind reader and that reading people is extremely hard.

You shouldn't doubt yourself like that, I certainly don't and I catch buckets full of scums

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

actually why am i even voting

[Unvote]

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

You shouldn't doubt yourself like that, I certainly don't and I catch buckets full of scums

[citation needed]

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@Melodie

Is DDL scum? (iyo)

I hate the fact this is an accurate way of reading me.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

total fluff post: i read that at first as buckets of word-that-is-spelled-similarly-to-but-is-NOT-a-synonym-for-mafia-or-otherwise-antitown-entities

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Wad I'm missing you bossing everyone around over how they should be playing.

Not your scumdar, though. That one I don't particularly miss.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Wad I'm missing you bossing everyone around over how they should be playing.

Not your scumdar, though. That one I don't particularly miss.

the deterioration of my town play just made my powerwolfing scum play that much more frightening though

i would set up lynch chains for days and it would hardly condemn me because people would know “man his scumdar is just THAT bad”

It got to the point the more accurate I ended up being in rare form the more i got sussed as scum

 

[Oddjutsu]

total fluff post: i read that at first as buckets of word-that-is-spelled-similarly-to-but-is-NOT-a-synonym-for-mafia-or-otherwise-antitown-entities

Chums

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Chums

yea sure that’s it ha ha

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

the deterioration of my town play just made my powerwolfing scum play that much more frightening though

i would set up lynch chains for days and it would hardly condemn me because people would know “man his scumdar is just THAT bad”

It got to the point the more accurate I ended up being in rare form the more i got sussed as scum

Your scumdar is not terrible, tbh. It's more like average.

Scumdars are overrated as fuck.

 

[Ishmael]

And why are you still acting like I am only focusing on Ratchet?

your whole focus and interactions fall back to one person. Ratchet.

somehow Drago, Ratchet and you still try to argue with me on it.

Every post involving these guys fall back to another which is Ratchet. I’m not acting like anything I’m speaking on what I’ve noticed.

 

[Melodie]

Wad, I'm not really sure yet, I'll give an answer next phase regarding DDL's alignment . I don't really the interaction with Sin they had, one of them seems like they're inting.

--
[Vote Lynch NoYouCant]

Not a fan of their posts so far but I'm unsure whether they're new to mafia or not. other people on the Ratchet train like Oddjutsu and Neesos are also questionable. But it has to be only one of them that decided to jump on that train. since several mafia jumping on that is extremely unlikely.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Wad, I'm not really sure yet, I'll give an answer next phase regarding DDL's alignment . I don't really the interaction with Sin they had, one of them seems like they're inting.

--
[Vote Lynch NoYouCant]

Not a fan of their posts so far but I'm unsure whether they're new to mafia or not. other people on the Ratchet train like Oddjutsu and Neesos are also questionable. But it has to be only one of them that decided to jump on that train. since several mafia jumping on that is extremely unlikely.

It's Mexikorn. He's not new.