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Go D. Usopp said:
depends honestly
it seems discussion is slowly converging to xadlin and kat wagons and ppl now eagerly wanna see the flip

anyway tell me about ur vote that u just sheeped :dotell
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Kind of want to see how he flips. I stopped reading at page 10 and didn’t really buy into voting Xadlin because the reasoning wasn’t strong enough.

then he claimed indie and they should never be kept, period. Then he backtracked and said he was town and blamed it on his incompetence of reading his role.

that’s more of why I’m inclined to vote him.
 
Catamount said:
i mean lol girl
there are no men here
all are women
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Hayumi said:
Tbh I don’t think Ussop is worth pushing or hard suspecting at this point in time, namely because of the fact that he was easily willing to elaborate on his role and even offered to use it on me to clear himself to the rest of the game if someone invested me and came up with a guilty result. Now, I think it would be extremely counter productive for town to waste an invest on me just to clear him, but the fact that he was even offering this is extremely towny. Ussop can make big brain plays but this would just make no sense.






yah he’s town af imo.

:zaru
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I would agree that this seems too elaborate a move to pull off early into the game, but there are multiple mechanical ways to manipulate and abuse the knowledge that cops will be targeting you/Usopp. If mafia have a watcher for instance, they could have it target you and find out the identity of investigative and possibly also protective roles that target you at night.
dunya said:
aftere reading usopp, i think i'll bite for now. but now what i'm really tinfoiling on is this rule. does this make hayumi's IC unreliable?

>> "this is also assuming hayumi isnt straight up mafia fake revealing lol, or he isnt like hinata from shrikes game that cannot be made guilty" <<

^ what does this mean?
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From my understanding of how Nitty runs this, the innocent/guilty tags just matter to alignment cops and potentially some other abilities that work off that status. Innocent/guilty shouldn't affect the color of one's role though, so if they're town and guilty they should still show up as town's color upon death and in any reveal such as Innocent Child.
dunya said:
what i mean to ask: has an NF host ever confirmed someone IC and that someone was mafia? lol.
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Not that I have seen personally, and if so such a game should have been marked as a bastard game in the sign-ups/game info. If it did happen in a bastard game and it wasn't specifically advertised as a bastard game, then it would have been an Aries game, which just comes with the educated assumption that it's a bastard game.
Oddjutsu said:
Kue gave up the town read vote thing pretty quickly after an IC got revealed
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I agree that Kue gave up the town read thing in a weird way early in the phase, but I got the impression that they did so because no one was following it...even though it was less than 50 posts in and too early to expect town reads to be handed out like candy. I don't get why an IC reveal would prompt them to not want town reads anymore, there's no scum motive in that.
 
Kue said:
I have 3 which is you, Kat or Xad.

@RemChu Thoughts on Xad and Oddjutsu? Oddjutsu seems to be trying to cast doubt on a town core, but I want to make sure I'm not OMGUSing.

Even though I'm happy that dunya gave me a town read, I'm still uneasy about her. It's similar to the uneasiness I have around SinRaven, I can sense they would be a good player as scum.
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Why not engage with Oddjutsu and ask him to elaborate on his suspicion? You're treating him as if he's beneath you, scummy to even come at you because you're "town core".
Vivo Diez said:
@Hayumi is putting in a lot more effort than in the last few games I've seen him in :mahbro
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If Hayumi is actually IC they might have broken the curse on that role:lmao
 
Go D. Usopp said:
well only way kue could not be town is if he can fool lie detects. so godfather kinda thing

eitherway xadlin flip will help alot regarding cypher, which helps a bit regarding kue

im off to sleep now, pce
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Nitty doesn't use Godfathers in most of his games, so bulletproof, lie detects, invest protection, etc. normally associated with GFs can be on any member of the mafia. Even in games with GFs, other roles within the mafia can have such abilities.
 
SinRaven said:
Seems like everyone and their mother is suspecting Xadlin, which makes me doubt it a little bit. I think some people are just naming him now as an easy throwaway suspicion.
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Afraid that you started a bus you cannot stop?
Cypher said:
I can see somewhat of a consensus for the Xadlin lynch. Not sure if that‘s a good or a bad thing yet, but it seems his flip would provide a lot of info.

[Change Vote Lynch Xadlin].
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A fair amount of hesitation here, and bringing up it being an info lynch is a red flag.
Hero said:
Girl, place the vote and move on. No need to state their is a “consensus” to clear your guilty conscience :lmao
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Didn't think I'd see Hero burning Cypher in this game:lmao
 
Honest thoughts, though.

Hayumi and Kue are mechanically confirmed. Unless there are shenanigans involved, they should be cool.

Usopp: I don't like him trying to waste an Invest and doing the consensus thing with our chat invest. The police chat is private for a reason and the night gives us plenty of time to discuss.


Katsuargi: I don't like him only talking flavour and mechanics.


Hero: I like him doing Iwan posting. He's putting effort into the game. Could be a scum trying to sound useful or just a Town trying to game solve.


Juan: I like his post regarding Usopp. Makes me lean Town on him.


JW: Really low effort. This makes me feel better about him, but his defense of me makes me feel paranoid.


Vivo: Seems to be very serious and less entertained. Still, he should be kept an eye on.


WPK: I actually like his observation about me. Makes me lean Town on him.



Xadlin: Just gave up. Even in the off chance that he flips Town I won't regret his lynch tbh.
 
familyparka said:
Okay I'm here. It was a lot to read, and not too much content to be honest.

I don't have really strong reads against anyone.

It's pretty clear that Hayumi is confirmed town, and either Usopp or Cooler are town too. I don't think both of them are tho.

Since Usopp posted about it immediately I'm more inclined to trust his claim over Cooler's.

Also Catamount mentions some pretty solid points about Katsuragi.

So for now

[vote lynch Katsuragi]
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Voting Kat rather than Cooler here is a bad look, as your suspicion on Cooler is based on a more concrete notion of conflicting claims. Kat was the Xadlin counterwagon, so if Xadlin is mafia rather than indie this could indicate FP as their scummate.
Katsuargi said:
You shouldn't lynch me, and you should look into anyone who tried to wagon me.
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I like the boldness here from Kat on their innocence.
John Wayne said:
@Cypher was it a kill or a super kill?
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Super kills are unstoppable in Nitty games up until this game, and even here they're only stoppable by a protect on target+roleblock on killer...which isn't feasible to have happened during a day phase.
 
Go D. Usopp said:
i feel like ppl dont understand what a conditional miller is

i do have control over what i appear as at night, but if i choose to appear innocent then it'd limit my role hard

also @dunya i can be transparent about who i am using my ability one. i'll probably do that on police chat if we can clear every1 inside it as town

however my target choice aside, i will always be transparent about what my OWN alignment will be

i am gna appear guilty tonight, i've already made my mind

unless u guys convince me otherwise and want me to appear innocent
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i believe you.
 
familyparka said:
Okay I'm here. It was a lot to read, and not too much content to be honest.

I don't have really strong reads against anyone.

It's pretty clear that Hayumi is confirmed town, and either Usopp or Cooler are town too. I don't think both of them are tho.

Since Usopp posted about it immediately I'm more inclined to trust his claim over Cooler's.

Also Catamount mentions some pretty solid points about Katsuragi.

So for now

[vote lynch Katsuragi]
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may i ask why you feel strongly that both usopp and cooler can't be town?

do you really think if usopp is town as you say, a mafia!cooler will come in and cc a role that we can flip? what's the advantage? 1 missyeet?
 
Catamount said:
Imo taking a style of not answering specific questions is not an issue. I kinda dig this cause this stops from making the game flat and tasteless by asking direct questions for truth check (like the same way as claiming roles etc.).
However, Katsuargi is still posting so neutrally and carefully it only raises more suspicion.
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i think lie detectors are anti-fun, but if someone rolled a lie detection, they are allowed to use their role, no?

this defense feels a bit on the cagey side tbh.
 
Juan said:
what

hayumi

if katsu does that, then every other game they play, where they're not town, and someone asks them their alignment, and they don't answer because "well i can't bloody say i'm scum", how long do you think it will take someone to put 2 and 2 together?

if they always say when they're town then they'll get lynched when they don't say it

like i think it's a shitty playstyle too but think about it for a min babe :dank
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imagine playing forum mafia and never lying

:huh:
 
people i think are town:

kue
usopp
cooler
hayumi
cypher
hero
sigismund (don't ask me why, just good vibes)

people i haven't seen enough from but got pings from
LM
sinraven

people i would yeet
catamount
juan (feels very devil's advocate here)
remchu (too defensive)
oddjustu (coasting)
familyparka (bad posts and asking to end phase early is often anti town tbh)


anyone i missed from these list i should ISO probably
 
dunya said:
people i think are town:

kue
usopp
cooler
hayumi
cypher
hero
sigismund (don't ask me why, just good vibes)

people i haven't seen enough from but got pings from
LM
sinraven

people i would yeet
catamount
juan (feels very devil's advocate here)
remchu (too defensive)
oddjustu (coasting)
familyparka (bad posts and asking to end phase early is often anti town tbh)


anyone i missed from these list i should ISO probably
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Can you ISO Xadlin, too, please?
 
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