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Well, my reads could be wrong. I don't think Infinity/Ava is scum anyways. Infinity was being so dumb for no reason like why lie about being new to mafia and then revealing it was a lie by his own accord. If someone else in the thread was like "uh no you have play mafia before" and he was caught in the lie, then I can see him as more as scum but I just saw him as a dumb townie after that. Ava's posts didn't seem scum like to me anyways.

Going down the list

1. Lord Genome, the Merchant (Town)
2. Okosan, the Shaman - Town lean
3.
Oddjutsu, the Mage - Town Lean
4.
A Optimistic, the Hunter - Town Lean
5.
SinRaven, the Druid - Unsure/Scum lean
6.
Nessos, the Warrior - Town lean
7. Kvothe Kingkiller, the Warlock (Town)
8. WolfPrinceKouga, the Rogue - Scum lean
9.
Melodie, the Priest - Unsure/Town lean
10.
Dragomir, the Paladin - Town lean

I'm going off of in a 10 player game there's 2 scum. I might be wrong?

There seems to be attention on WPK. I don't like how both Sin and WPK says a LG lynch would be better in terms of information or for a mislynch but won't place a vote on him.
I was first to point out Infinity lying about not playing mafia before but that is only part of the reason I suspect him, Avalon is a really good player and he won't make any scum slips

Minimum 2 scum, Maximum 3.

And WPK is most likely our lynch today
 
I'm fine with a WPK lynch though, feel like Odd's claim was genuine, I dont see why scum would claim roleblocker after Optimistic said he was blocked.

[Change Vote Lynch WPK]

His only relevant post last phase I felt was pretty lacklustworthy, with mostly a neutral stance overall. Seemingly careless about who got lynched, and as it turns out, most if not all candidates at that point were town (LG town, Odd claimed roleblocker and I still read Nessos as town)
 
I was first to point out Infinity lying about not playing mafia before but that is only part of the reason I suspect him, Avalon is a really good player and he won't make any scum slips

Minimum 2 scum, Maximum 3.

And WPK is most likely our lynch today

Well yeah actually the one thing that did bother me was him town reading wpk off of page 1 so easily too but his other posts just give me the feel of being a real dumb townie. It's subject to change I suppose.

I don't know why Ava revealed he got roleblocked though
 
Cooooo! (Alright Nessos Okosan wants a comprehensive list of any/all info you gained from that LG town flip right now)
Unless Odd is their scummate, I just don't see why they'd be sticking to LG so much if they're scum Okosan.

You know this last minute shit from you is pretty annoying, I know you were floating around all day in a different thread. Anyway let's deconstruct this

Infinity felt town to you?


Everybody else, did InfinityG feel like town to you?

I was scumreading Infinity all day because unlike yourself I was active in this thread. I called out his fake noobishness and my vote on him is because of a scumread, I didn't vote Optimistic because I made a promise even though he OMGUS'd me like a little bitch. My vote on you is also because of a scumread. Don't flatter yourself thinking it's a spite vote, you aren't that special

You said words without substance on Melodie and SinRaven, same as Okosan and again with Lord Genome
Infinity was in here early trying to get the ball rolling, trying to poke at people to get any kind of reaction to read, and their interaction with Kvothe felt like TvT.

Why would you promise your scumread not to vote them, after having just voted the previous person in that slot?

I was noting Melodie and Sin, for if they kept up such behavior it becomes scum indicative. How can one say words of substance about LG? I advised solving him with actions if we don't lynch him. Okosan I gave a legit read on.

I wish the vigi shot him, the casual omgus and slimy guilt trip did not sit right with me at all. I was fine with switching votes from one scumread to another anyway

Man that InfinityG really screwed his mafia team over, he might not have been new to mafia but he was horrible at lying
All this talk of Infinity/Optimistic being a strong scum read, and no vote. You extending that promise to not vote them for the rest of the game Odd?

Here is how you vote your scumread :

[Vote Lynch Oddjutsu]

Nessos vote on LG however was only to get himself not lynched.
They voted him for more than self-preservation.

To be frank I honestly do not even feel bad whatsoever about the fact that Lord Genome got lynched day one. Sure it might be unintended and initially a vote I placed on him to pressure him into actually participating in the game and contributing, but he decided to throw one fluff post at the beginning of the game and never participated again. What purpose do we have of such player if he is unwilling to take part of the game? At that point he'd just be a threat regardless of his alignment due to his inactivity. Say he doesn't get lynched, would he be of worth next day phase? he has a one shot and he'd either be modblocked or modkilled, and would continue being a worthless suspicion.

If there is a townie that I wouldn't mind going away day 1, it'd be Lord Genome due to his complete inactivity
The sequence of posts of Melodie being unrepentant and explaining why they aren't crying over LG is more effort than I think scum!Melodie would put in to defend themselves. Putting them at low priority for today.

Yeah Melodie blamed me for the Genome lynch.But Melodie made a pressure, but never came back to check if he came back or to change the vote.
Now Melodie plays innocent saying never intended to lynch Genome.
They said your vote was self-preservation and that they didn't expect their LG vote to gain traction enough to be the lynch. I think this is just an honest misunderstanding though.

There seems to be attention on WPK. I don't like how both Sin and WPK says a LG lynch would be better in terms of information or for a mislynch but won't place a vote on him.
When did I ever say that?

I'm fine with a WPK lynch though, feel like Odd's claim was genuine, I dont see why scum would claim roleblocker after Optimistic said he was blocked.

[Change Vote Lynch WPK]

His only relevant post last phase I felt was pretty lacklustworthy, with mostly a neutral stance overall. Seemingly careless about who got lynched, and as it turns out, most if not all candidates at that point were town (LG town, Odd claimed roleblocker and I still read Nessos as town)
How was I in any way "careless about who got lynched"? I voted for the person I most suspected, which was also a viable wagon. You're making it seem like I went and vanity voted for a non-competitive wagon, and so didn't care who of of the existing options got got.

You tunneled Odd until he claimed, and it's a claim mafia can easily make. That's a scummy progression.
 
On the one hand we have the player marking the new guy as scum and in the other Hand we have the ones marking the new guy as town.

I am paranoid, both groups are scummy for me xD


@WolfPrinceKouga what kind of game donyou expect
8 vs 2 or 7 vs 3?
8v2 is more likely as that's within normal ratio guidelines, 7v3 only allows a single mislynch before you're in LYLO. Shizune games also skew towards fewer mafia.
 
Sin, I suspect WPK plenty. I also there is one mafia out of the birds.



No because I visited the thread unhealthy amount of times, saying I did not come back is dishonest because there are also posts to prove so. yea I did not come back the last couple hours of the day phase, and I never will in any phase due to timezone. Also I'm not 'blaming' or throwing 'shade' at you for the lynch on Lord Genome, pretty forced narrative considering I said very clearly that I do not mind the lynch on him whatsoever considering his attitude towards the game as evidently.



Some of you all throw out the most necessary claims and stuff in the thread for whatever unholy reason :blobfacade
This post made me see Melodie in better light now. Definitely removing the suspicion I have.
I'm fine with a WPK lynch though, feel like Odd's claim was genuine, I dont see why scum would claim roleblocker after Optimistic said he was blocked.

[Change Vote Lynch WPK]

His only relevant post last phase I felt was pretty lacklustworthy, with mostly a neutral stance overall. Seemingly careless about who got lynched, and as it turns out, most if not all candidates at that point were town (LG town, Odd claimed roleblocker and I still read Nessos as town)
Ugh, this feels like bussing tbh. All the reasoning feels like he's trying to justify the vote and not look like sheeping. Bit the greatest look. I don't wanna press it right now tho, but it's something I wanted to point out.
 
Damn the activity is quite low, hard to get reads without any meta....

Drago is a ghost not doing much. Drago is a bit too passive for me.


In my opinion Kouga vs Odd seems like Town vs Town. On the one hand we have Kouga who thinks it is 8 vs 2 and in this case doubtint a roleblock claim makes sense. In the other hand we have Odd who believes this game to be 7 vs 3. Scum acting like this 7 vs 3 while it be 8 vs 2 wouldn't make sense.

Based on my role I also believe in 7 vs 3, especially with Odd being a roleblocker.

The question for me right now was Kougas 8vs2 post just made to make others doubt Odds claim or is it really Town vs Town?
 
This post made me see Melodie in better light now. Definitely removing the suspicion I have
Also this one of Drago is a bit too much acting like a good buddy and gives me

Melodie and Drago sitting in the tree
K-i-s-s-i-n-g! :catslut
First comes love.
Then comes marriage.
Then comes baby* in the baby carriage,
Sucking his thumb,
Wetting his pants,
Doing the hula, hula dance!

Scumbuddy vibes. If someone makesva pressure vote one should return and Check what happens removing, changing or arguing why keeping the vote.

All this "He deserves to get lynch even so I didn't think he was scum!"- BS actually sounds like stupid excuses.


Nessos vote on LG however was only to get himself not lynched.
Also this is throwing shade on me based on the Genome lynch. And now Melodie is denying it after I called her out for it.
 
Cooooo! (Nice)
Read the full post, jealous little Dove.
You really seems to have problems when a big noisy bird is in front of you :cat

Btw I also have to admit I mixed up Kouga and Kvothe. Just noticed Kvothe made the more detailed 8 vs 2 post and Kouga Most likely only used it to
The question for me right now was Kougas 8vs2 post just made to make others doubt Odds claim or is it really Town vs Town?
 
Read the full post, jealous little Dove.
You really seems to have problems when a big noisy bird is in front of you :cat

Btw I also have to admit I mixed up Kouga and Kvothe. Just noticed Kvothe made the more detailed 8 vs 2 post and Kouga Most likely only used it to
If I was out to make others doubt Odd's claim I would have made an argument in that direction. You asked me a question, I gave the logical answer, now supposedly because in your head 8v2 would make you doubt Odd's claim I'm the one pushing that idea?
 
If I was out to make others doubt Odd's claim I would have made an argument in that direction. You asked me a question, I gave the logical answer, now supposedly because in your head 8v2 would make you doubt Odd's claim I'm the one pushing that idea?
If you really think it is 8v2 it doesn't mak much sense to suspect Odd. And in 7v3 version roleblocker makes sense.
 
In a 7v3 a scum roleblocker would be too overpowered. Scum roleblocker makes only sense in 8v2.
Scum roleblocker is hardly overpowered in that format, still have 6/7 people able to do actions. Most games of this size don't have all of town having abilities which is likely the case here, the roleblocker isn't in a position to just cuck the 1-2 PRs and if it could, then it did a good job routing them out. Night is scum's territory, townies getting actions blocked isn't as impactful as mafia getting actions blocked.

7v3 is already an unbalanced setup so arguing against a scum roleblocker also being in it is extremely silly.
 
Day 2 - WPK is lynched
Vote count

SinRaven - Oddjutsu > WPK
Dragomir - WPK
Oddjutsu - WPK > Nessos > WPK
WPK - Oddjutsu
Melodie - Oddjutsu > Okosan
Nessos - WPK
Okosan - WPK

WPK: 5
Oddjutsu: 1
Okosan: 1

Self votes

A Optimistic
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WolfPrinceKouga the Rogue has been lynched!

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Rogue
alignment: guilty
wincon: eliminate everyone outside your mafia

“You're gonna find a number of outfits that covet our skills. Adventurers, SI:7... heck, even the disorganized rabble wouldn't mind a spy or two inside Stormwind. But you remember this: You're your own man. Don't let nobody bully you into doing something you don't wanna do! Besides, we hold all the cards... at least, we do before the game's done.”

[Active - Stealth] - The Rogue can stalk another player during the night to learn what their ability is. If the Rogue's target uses their ability on another player while being stalked, the Rogue will also learn who they target.

[One Shot Active - Pickpocket] - The Rogue can permanently steal an ability from a player that she has previously stalked. If the Rogue dies, her stolen ability will be returned to its rightful owner.

[One Shot Active - Vanish] - The Rogue can use shadow magic to become invisible, enabling her to fool watchers and trackers for that night.

Night 2 start. No more posting.
 
Day 3 start
A Optimistic the Hunter died last night.

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Hunter
alignment: innocent
wincon: eliminate all threats to the town

“The way of the hunter is one of mastery over the beasts of the world, an unparalleled precision in marksmanship, and the knowledge of how to survive in situations where others would perish.”

[Passive - Tame Beast] - The Hunter's faithful animal companion watches her back, telling her the names of any players who target her with an ability.

Day 3 start. You may now post.
 
COOO? (Really why? That seems pretty bad tbh. If there are only 2 mafia then they were confirmed town. And with 3 mafia they're still pretty likely town)

Cooo! (Unless you thought for some reason they couldn't be role blocked or something like that)
Good point, didn't think of that. What I am thinking of is that you have too much information, like you know exactly how the janitoring of Kvothe and killing of Kvothe was performed
 
Good point, didn't think of that. What I am thinking of is that you have too much information, like you know exactly how the janitoring of Kvothe and killing of Kvothe was performed
Cooo! (It's called basic analysis? Like, the second WPK dies as scum, assuming you're not lying about your action / Optimistic can be blocked, Optimistic is confirmed town in a mafia team of 2)

COOOO! (Even doubly so since mafia had to have a way to janitor that first kill unless some town wants to own up to it (won't happen tbh). Which means some other rmafia had to use that ability)
 
Cooo! (It's called basic analysis? Like, the second WPK dies as scum, assuming you're not lying about your action / Optimistic can be blocked, Optimistic is confirmed town in a mafia team of 2)

COOOO! (Even doubly so since mafia had to have a way to janitor that first kill unless some town wants to own up to it (won't happen tbh). Which means some other rmafia had to use that ability)
In a team of 3 like I have been preparing for, my roleblock doesn't confirm him at all. Always think of the worst case scenario
 
If they killed someone else they could have had a free mislynch, it's not the optimal move. They must have gotten scared of his big nasty ability combined with the fact that I promised not to roleblock him
Coo! (Nah because Optimistic is a pretty easy save target last night. So in Okosan's mind it's them knowing it confirms them. So like 85/15 on a team of 2/3 is what Okosan is leaning)
 
My paranoid brain says you did that because you knew that Kvothe would have no information and you can get town read for bringing back a janitored kill

My logical brain says, well look at LGs and A Optimistics roles. That talking from the grave action would be absolutely perfect to use on one of them
Cooo! (Well here's why Okosan did it. 1) Obviously Okosan wasn't going to use it on LG who barely posted. 2) Okosan didn't want to wait too long in case he just died without it getting used. 3) Since the role was janitored Okosan figured if scum ever tried to come up with a fake claim that matched Kvothe's role Kvothe could just cc)

COOOO! (Plus it helps that Kvothe was actually talking beforehand too :thumbs
 
Cooo! (Well here's why Okosan did it. 1) Obviously Okosan wasn't going to use it on LG who barely posted. 2) Okosan didn't want to wait too long in case he just died without it getting used. 3) Since the role was janitored Okosan figured if scum ever tried to come up with a fake claim that matched Kvothe's role Kvothe could just cc)

COOOO! (Plus it helps that Kvothe was actually talking beforehand too :thumbs
About LG, I mean if someone else had the role and didn't get lynched D1. The ability could have potentially produced a lot of information
 

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