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Nessos
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Need Sin to vote me. I can explain if needed after he Vote me.
For now I agree with Melodie bei g the best option for this DP lynch.
Nessos
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Would also für with Pala.
Oddjutsu
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Drago wasn't around night one
Kvothe Kingkiller
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mmmm ok if okosan was the one that did revive me then Melodie and Dragomir are people I would reconsider. WPK can technically send a kill via through Dragomir if he's the one with the janitor kill.
I still don't know too much about Sin. He seems town last phase though.
I also don't know why the kill on Avalon. I would have to do a lookback on wpk and ava/infinity g post.
I still don't know too much about Sin. He seems town last phase though.
I also don't know why the kill on Avalon. I would have to do a lookback on wpk and ava/infinity g post.
Drago
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Nessos or Sin. Pick one of them to lynch today.
Kvothe Kingkiller
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Didn't you say sin is town? Also why Nessos
Drago
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I did not. I want to lynch Nessos or SinRaven. What do you say?
Oddjutsu
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Are you clearing Melodie? Tell me more
Oddjutsu
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I want to hear from Sin first before we move forward, just checking something
Drago
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I also later said that his vote on WPK looked like bussing. Nessos came up with the biggest pile of horseshit I have ever seen in order to suspect me. He also voted for WPK literally after staying that the interaction between Odd vs him was TvT. Okosan pointed this out and I want to follow through with it.
There was no progression at all from the TvT read to vote in order to suggest that he changed his mind. It was randomly made when he saw that WPK was getting lynched. That vote screamed distancing to me.
Drago
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Nah, I'm not. I just think the scum are those two. Tho, if you want a read on her, I'd say good.
Kvothe Kingkiller
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Ok, though I still think Nessos is town off of day 1. It seems he's trying to do something here with his action on Sin so I guess we'll see.
Sin, I am a little unsure since he and wpk wanted oddjutsu gone day 1. But I have a feeling WPK just wanted to jump on that train and hopefully it kept going. I'm not sure if I can see two scums on one but then again, I can't clear him as either.
Oddjutsu
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Might as well give Melodie the benefit of the doubt and see if she has anything to add, trust is low though
Drago
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4v2 or 5v1 right now. I think it's the former. That means we're in MyLo right now.
I'm really sure it's Nessos and Sin. I'm not feeling Melodie. Too carefree. Giving zero fucks with how she's playing and just doing her. That vote on Okosan was also just too dumb to have been made by mafia. I see WPK's buddy(ies) in that situation bussing, not making a random vote on someone else.
I'm really sure it's Nessos and Sin. I'm not feeling Melodie. Too carefree. Giving zero fucks with how she's playing and just doing her. That vote on Okosan was also just too dumb to have been made by mafia. I see WPK's buddy(ies) in that situation bussing, not making a random vote on someone else.
Oddjutsu
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So everybody that ever dropped a vote on me is scum, I can dig that
Kvothe Kingkiller
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I hope people used their abilities 
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
Seems like Drago being salty because of the "Melodie and Drago sitting in at tree"-joke 
Oddjutsu
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Kvothe, what was your ability by the way?I hope people used their abilities
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
[Vote lynch Melodie]
50:50 on Drago either he is panicing Town or he was actually the one bussing WPK creating bus-train by implying bussing in others.
But my little Drago just dumb Towny. If SinRaven is Town he will vote once for me and change to his top scumread afterwards.
50:50 on Drago either he is panicing Town or he was actually the one bussing WPK creating bus-train by implying bussing in others.
This post of Drago feels like Drago tried to justify bussing his scumbuddy.
But my little Drago just dumb Towny. If SinRaven is Town he will vote once for me and change to his top scumread afterwards.
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
Just trust me on this. I mean did anything happen to you last DP/NP?
Oddjutsu
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Nothing happened to me and I made sure nothing happened to you, I do want to see what happens
Nessos
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If Sin has nothing to hide he will vote for me.
Oddjutsu
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Not much to talk about until they show up
Oddjutsu
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I wonder what SinRaven, Melodie and Dragomir roles can do
Oddjutsu
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[Vote Lynch Melodie]
In case something happens and I'm not around when it does
In case something happens and I'm not around when it does
Kvothe Kingkiller
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Well the one who janitored me should know my ability. Will someone reveal it?
But nah I doubt they will. Waiting to see what Sin and Melodie has to say though, I'm curious if they used any abilities last night.
Kvothe Kingkiller
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Actually I'll just reveal it since it doesn't really matter.
If I got mislynched, I summon a powerful spirit to take someone down with me.
If I got mislynched, I summon a powerful spirit to take someone down with me.
Oddjutsu
A gift to goblinkind
I thought so, a vengeful, mafia were soft to kill you at night. Should of rolled the dice and gone for the mislynch playActually I'll just reveal it since it doesn't really matter.
If I got mislynched, I summon a powerful spirit to take someone down with me.
Drago
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Drago
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Huh? That post had nothing to even do with WPK.
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
Sry my mistake. Just kept this strange lost in mind. Should have looked closely again if you really quoted Kouga ^^
Kvothe Kingkiller
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if i remember correctly, didnt nessos mixed me and wpk up?
Nessos
"HighFiveNight" - News
Yeah also this happened and I called Sin Shizune in my first analyses...
So only mixed up members 3 times. Ain't to bad for being the New Guy
Kvothe Kingkiller
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Yeah also this happened and I called Sin Shizune in my first analyses...
So only mixed up members 3 times. Ain't to bad for being the New Guy
no problem
i feel like this game won't go anywhere unless Sin and Melodie show up later due to timezones.
I'm starting to think Melodie isn't the last scum doe due to that vote on birdy.
I'm not mafia. My votes and play hasn't really been optimal other than my suspicion on WPK that I didn't even commit one which makes it look even worse, but I'm not. I do think the suspicion should be between SinRaven and Dragomir. Maybe Dragomir has a good read on me because they believe that I'm likely to be the lynch for this day phase and it'd give them a good plus of being the person that called me being town when said flip inevitably occurs?
Mislynching me is incredibly bad to town.
Mislynching me is incredibly bad to town.
Drago
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This is lame. Maybe I just town read you and suspect others? One maybe is more likely than the other Melodie. Pick the right one.
Kvothe Kingkiller
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Do you think it's 1 more scum or 2 more?
Kvothe Kingkiller
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eh honestly don't think it's melodie. I don't remember playing with scum melodie but I feel like throwing a rando vote on lg and birdy doesn't seem like what scum would do
One.
Btw do you think it's optimal for me to claim? It'll make things a lot more convoluted potentially but it'll set things up well I think, to fit either scenario of lynching me or not.
Kvothe Kingkiller
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depends, if it is one scum yeah then we can maybe sniff them out since we got a lot of claims thrown around already. I am however afraid of the scenario being 2 scum left.
I'm afraid of that too but I can't risk being lynched, it'd legit be disastrous lol
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
Partially wary that this might be some vote stealing trick, but my gut says I can trust you.
[Vote Lynch Nessos]
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
[Change Vote Lynch Melodie]
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
I mean, I for one am glad we're finally lynching that devil bitch Melodie, and I have reason to believe that she's misleading us.
fuck it, I'll just do it.
I'm not sure of my availability for the rest of this particular day so I'll list everything I can.
The optimal town play is to not lynch me , period.
The secondary option is to lynch me, but not commit many of your votes on me. I require an extra vote to be lynched and I shame the people that voted me by silencing their votes for the next day phase. This is sub-optimal, but it is a far better alternative than having most of the players vote on me and lose the next day phase completely by not being able to vote.
Sure you might argue that I'm lying and in reality I require the majority vote to be lynched. But that's not the case, and that being said even if the entertain the idea that I'm mafia and majority is required; it'd just delay my death by a phase and it still change nothing.
So ideally of course is not to lynch me, but if you'd do the second option, try to distribute your votes so that I'm the lynch (while putting into mind the fact that I require an extra vote) while not falling into a self lynch due to the double vote that is given through self votes. That way you'll be able to function through the next day phase with only limited amount of players vote silenced. This however will require a cooperation between all players to be able to achieve to distribute the votes well.
Tldr: Please just don't lynch me to save us the trouble, and if you will, do the pain in the ass for the optimal way of mislynching me.
I'm not sure of my availability for the rest of this particular day so I'll list everything I can.
The optimal town play is to not lynch me , period.
The secondary option is to lynch me, but not commit many of your votes on me. I require an extra vote to be lynched and I shame the people that voted me by silencing their votes for the next day phase. This is sub-optimal, but it is a far better alternative than having most of the players vote on me and lose the next day phase completely by not being able to vote.
Sure you might argue that I'm lying and in reality I require the majority vote to be lynched. But that's not the case, and that being said even if the entertain the idea that I'm mafia and majority is required; it'd just delay my death by a phase and it still change nothing.
So ideally of course is not to lynch me, but if you'd do the second option, try to distribute your votes so that I'm the lynch (while putting into mind the fact that I require an extra vote) while not falling into a self lynch due to the double vote that is given through self votes. That way you'll be able to function through the next day phase with only limited amount of players vote silenced. This however will require a cooperation between all players to be able to achieve to distribute the votes well.
Tldr: Please just don't lynch me to save us the trouble, and if you will, do the pain in the ass for the optimal way of mislynching me.
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
I have/had a one shot ability as well. So did LG, I figured most townies would have one shot abilities and thus I had more reason to trust you if you had one too
Why would you even assume that? Optimistic's death showcases that town can only have a passive. (Which is the same for me), and the fact that Oddjutsu noted knowing from WPK sounds like he had his ability stolen and you got to know about it? Unless I'm missing out on his point regarding the WPK mention.
Hidden
A Human from the Present
Cooooo! (So you're saying town had two abilities that had to do with them getting lynched? One that kills a person and one that vote silences people the next day?)
To be fair, Kingkiller's supposed ability is relatively common for a town member to have. It's essentially the vengeful role.Cooooo! (So you're saying town had two abilities that had to do with them getting lynched? One that kills a person and one that vote silences people the next day?)
Kvothe Kingkiller
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Cooooo! (So you're saying town had two abilities that had to do with them getting lynched? One that kills a person and one that vote silences people the next day?)
Actually I lied about mine. So the thing about SinRaven is interesting because my ability was a one shot too.
Kvothe Kingkiller
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My real ability was
I become a tree stump but I can permanently role crush someone, it was a one shot.
I become a tree stump but I can permanently role crush someone, it was a one shot.
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
I dont understand.
This was before Optimistics death. Or WPK's. I figured that if Odd's roleblock was a one shot he was more likely to be town because two other townies (LG and me) had one shot abilities of similar kind and he answered without questioning my question so I assumed him to be of similar wavelength
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
Tbh it feels like one shots and/or passives are more of a theme this game, so my theorycrafting about the one shots was right in it's own way
o ok, I didn't know it was before his death.
Kvothe Kingkiller
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but then again melodie said supposed ability so Im guessing she didn't believe what I said to be my real ability? 
Kvothe Kingkiller
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sin did you use your ability then ?
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
50/50 on this whole thing. It feels either too elaborate to be real with or too elaborate to fake..
100% wary of vote fuckery of mafia now, since Nessos also has some vote stuff.
I feel like one of you is lying (and that could mean Nessos just stole my vote or something) or there is mafia with vote fuckery as well which could nullify the whole thing...
IDK
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
Wait what, where?but then again melodie said supposed ability so Im guessing she didn't believe what I said to be my real ability?
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
I said that in the very same page, few posts above the post you're quoting.
Hidden
A Human from the Present
Coooooo! (Okosan's going to be honest even with Kvothe having lied about their ability Melodie's claim just doesn't feel good. Literally it alone could cause town to lose if they get mislynched and that honestly sets up a scenario where we get owned through no real fault of our own)
@Melodie COO! (You might have answered this but how many mafia do you think there are?)
@Melodie COO! (You might have answered this but how many mafia do you think there are?)
Hidden
A Human from the Present
COOO! (Yeah also Okosan just noticed that)but then again melodie said supposed ability so Im guessing she didn't believe what I said to be my real ability?
I agree, it's pretty fucked, and honestly. I wouldn't mind being one of the few people voting for myself to be lynched so the vote silence harms as less people as possible for the next day phase. I don't want my mislynch to be the cause of town's loss by having everyone hammer their vote in. (I can either not vote and essentially give myself to vote or just vote myself)
I believe there is one mafia left.
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
Melodie who right now do you want lynched?
Dragomir or the Nees dude.
I also think my lynch would remove a lot of headache especially if done appropriately as I listed.
Kvothe Kingkiller
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I do find the ability convoluted as a priest of all things whereas a lot of town abilities seem simple. Mine is a rolecrush, odd roleblocker, you revive, tracker etc.
But at the same time I don't like rolling the dice on it where we go all in and get fucked for next day phase.
Hidden
A Human from the Present
Coooooo! (Lmao Okosan just thought of a really funny solution where we all vote for ourselves and Melodie just doesn't vote so they get lynched)
I wouldn't be lynched because I require an extra vote to be lynched, and therefore would have the same votes as all of you.
Hidden
A Human from the Present
COOOO! (Okay then 1 person votes for you. Equals out to the same next phase)
Kvothe Kingkiller
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can we afford a mislynch by the way
That'd be ideal, yea. as long as everyone cooperates.
Hidden
A Human from the Present
COOO! (But also tbh if that's your ability and we mislynch you what are we even supposed to do to that anyways? It does kind of feel like, why not run into it)
Kvothe Kingkiller
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do you have any information that could idk clear or out anyone
also @Nessos we need whatever he wanted sin to do
Hidden
A Human from the Present
Coooooo! (That's if there's only two mafia total though)
COO? (Which is what Okosan is leaning towards but yeah)
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
Your words make it seems like you're setting a trap for us
SinRaven
SPACED OUT
I'd think the same due to simple mafia game nature. The only way it could be trap is if I change my mind last minute and vote someone else to get lynched and save myself. Or fail due to whatever other reason like majjority or what have you. Neither should be worth anything though, would just get me lynched next phase and the game would be over.
The alternative is throwing all of your votes on me, mislynch this day phase, and lose the next day phase due to lack of vote power and instantly lose the game by then.