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what are your thoughts on my thoughts
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I know role revealing is not only cheesy but a bad idea wth punish mechanics, but I wonder how viable faction claiming is :thunk

I mean, as others said it's very likely that we will have some defectors/traitors, but I think that makes it even more viable of a strategy to be honest.

If enough people do it, we can start figuring out who is NOT in the faction they claim to belong to by PoE, or have an easier time of figuring out who the potential turncoats are. :jackal

oh i understand that's a reasonable concern, and honestly it might not even be the most viable strategy...in fact it could still very well work against us

but while apprehensiveness towards me is warranted don't get too paranoid

in time, it'll be revealed who I am :naruramen

i mean at no point did i really push for this tactic

i wanted to hear what people said on the subject first and i was then convinced theres too many drawbacks :catshrug
 
And yet you were assertive enough that Waffles believed you and you were fine with that. I'm sure a veteran like you knows how to walk a fine line :juubishade


hmmm the point of contention between me and waffles was his notion that scum would not be limited to their factions

to which i argued, why wouldnt they be

but now that i reflect, i suppose it IS possible there might be other anti-town entities that dont belong to those factions and it could fall under the moderator's umbrella warning of "i will lie to you"

but i thought that would just generally refer to death millers, fake writeups, and other shenanigans :thunk
 
hmmm the point of contention between me and waffles was his notion that scum would not be limited to their factions

to which i argued, why wouldnt they be

but now that i reflect, i suppose it IS possible there might be other anti-town entities that dont belong to those factions and it could fall under the moderator's umbrella warning of "i will lie to you"

but i thought that would just generally refer to death millers, fake writeups, and other shenanigans :thunk
This was the last interaction between the two of you
I mean, as others said it's very likely that we will have some defectors/traitors, but I think that makes it even more viable of a strategy to be honest.

If enough people do it, we can start figuring out who is NOT in the faction they claim to belong to by PoE, or have an easier time of figuring out who the potential turncoats are. :jackal

I'll just assume you know better in this case. :hm
:brolmes
 
I don't like how you're buttering up to Nighty and he's seemingly fallen for it if that friendly rating is anything to go by. I don't want any butter in my kitchen until we have any reasonable reason to believe someone is town :ufdup

its not that im buttering up to her, its that the way she worded her concerns and disapproval of my plan sounded very genuine; a townie who thinks that this could hurt us more than it could help us

so because of that ive read her as town

so in essence, i dont regret theorycrafting because it has netted me one good solid townread from the discussion

This was the last interaction between the two of you



:brolmes

yea but again jeroen's principle issue was the consideration that not all town enemies will belong to the clearly defined scum factions on the front page
WAD you scum again? :dank
Every time you make some convoluted game break attempt I see you flip mafia :ufdup
Triggering my 3 time PTSD

game break is a little bit of an exaggeration :yousmart

but i dont think it was convoluted :dank
 
its not that im buttering up to her, its that the way she worded her concerns and disapproval of my plan sounded very genuine; a townie who thinks that this could hurt us more than it could help us

so because of that ive read her as town

so in essence, i dont regret theorycrafting because it has netted me one good solid townread from the discussion



yea but again jeroen's principle issue was the consideration that not all town enemies will belong to the clearly defined scum factions on the front page
It was already becoming clear that your plan was quite flawed so I see no reason to give her any town credit just yet
 
which instances are u referring to actually?
Jesterfia, Vanillafia come to mind think there was one more... :hm oh yeah the death miller ass where Waffle and Cat shafted you :dank
and i mean, not trusting me without evidence to my innocence is a given, even if i do present a strategy that is wholesale pro-town without notable drawbacks because i often times will use that for credibility
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also yes i am town

and i even soft-hinted to which faction i belong to, and before you wonder why i would do so unprompted because i want to leave evidence to my exact alignment in the event of my demise being janitored or something :catghost

The factions frankly don't mean a thing to me aside from Alliance good Burning bad I think :dank /nogameknowledge
I know I'm in the alliance and that's all but what all the sub groups are wakarimasen

soft hints don't mean much also without someone else having a lot of game knowledge too :hm
 
Jesterfia, Vanillafia come to mind think there was one more... :hm oh yeah the death miller ass where Waffle and Cat shafted you :dank


The factions frankly don't mean a thing to me aside from Alliance good Burning bad I think :dank /nogameknowledge
I know I'm in the alliance and that's all but what all the sub groups are wakarimasen

soft hints don't mean much also without someone else having a lot of game knowledge too :hm

How did I try to break the game in any of those games iyo?

Also, if you know you're Alliance, then shouldn't you also know which sub-faction you're in? :thunk
 
How did I try to break the game in any of those games iyo?

Also, if you know you're Alliance, then shouldn't you also know which sub-faction you're in? :thunk

In first you were baiting for cop and got cop killed (me) :dank
in other you were still baiting cops while giving yourself a good position which is all game breaking scum play to me :ufdup
are you implying you literally only know you're in the alliance and don't have a sub-faction? :dank

and no I know my sub, I don't know what the point is in having so many subs was my point albeit worded confusingly :dank
 
I don't think that's a good use of game breaking :thunk

Game breaking would be abusing or exploiting in game mechanics/abilities to make overcoming or defeating you very difficult to impossible

see: your bullshit Moltres stuff in Iconics :dank

see: My attempt as Mafia copycat in Vanillafia to copy both lynchproof and bulletproof to become effectively immortal once the zombie threat was purged
Moltres Dahlia combo was just clever :yousmart
and it didn't even kill as much as Taro/Dahlia did solo :nonon
 
The factions frankly don't mean a thing to me aside from Alliance good Burning bad I think :dank /nogameknowledge
I know I'm in the alliance and that's all but what all the sub groups are wakarimasen

and no I know my sub, I don't know what the point is in having so many subs was my point albeit worded confusingly :dank

What did you mean by "and that's all"
What was that supposed to mean?
 
Oh boy, that's WAD's defense. If I flipped scum he'd be like "I called it" And if I flip town he'll be like "Meh, he was acting like scum so not my fault."

No personal responsibility.

Real town there broseph.

Well you are?

You're promoting discord and chaos by suggesting that nothing we could SAY on Day 1 matters because it's categorically bullshit.

That's anti-town behavior. Admit it.
 
It is categorically bullshit unless you're decent at reading people at have established meta patterns from the people you're interacting with.

For anyone that doesn't interact with you fucks on a regular basis, yeah, gonna be a shit show.

Similarly, I'm guessing the majority of people here think they're way better at reading people than they really are.

So yes. Baring something resembling actual information being interjected into the system, day one is a role of the die.
 
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He literally came in, didn't comment on ANYTHING in the game going on whatsoever. (Granted, not a whole lot has been going on - sad, really.) Not even my thing about faction revealing and issued a blanket statement of "nothing what we say matters lolol its d1"

I then FoS'd him, which he dismissed as 'bullshitting'.

So when I then elucidated on why I thought he was scum or at least not playing pro-town based off that he called me 'an aggressive asshat'.
 
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He literally came in, didn't comment on ANYTHING in the game going on whatsoever. (Granted, not a whole lot has been going on - sad, really.) Not even my thing about faction revealing and issued a blanket statement of "nothing what we say matters lolol its d1"

I then FoS'd him, which he dismissed as 'bullshitting'.

So when I then elucidated on why I thought he was scum or at least not playing pro-town based off that he called me 'an aggressive asshat'.
Well I do know him to get snarky when someone is coming at him, so maybe that's why I don't read that as scummy, but imo the argument is weak and he is just saying the generic "early game is nonsense" stuff that usually goes down in both OBD games and here which is why I'm so confused as to you being up in arms.
 

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