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Dr. White said:
Well I do know him to get snarky when someone is coming at him, so maybe that's why I don't read that as scummy, but imo the argument is weak and he is just saying the generic "early game is nonsense" stuff that usually goes down in both OBD games and here which is why I'm so confused as to you being up in arms.
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Because it is a bad philosophy to hand and more often than not I have caught poor scum players out on this mentality.

DDL even recently credited a personal meta shift of his to me when I did that to him some time ago (called him scum for trying to sweep everything said on D1 under the rug)

Isn't that right @Dragon D. Luffy

Katsuargi said:
WAD clearly gets to defone what qualifies as town behavior.
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It's not even a matter of what my definition is or isn't.

I would say my play has been pro-town because I've been interrogating people, discussing strategies, possible roles, etc. You could SUBJECTIVELY say that my play hasn't been pro-town because it was agreed upon that my faction reveal strategy was flawed so there could be the impression that I was scum trying to bait town into bad reveals.

You definitely, under any definition, haven't been playing town. Coming in here and saying "yep this is all bullshit" and then just discrediting me (without definitively accusing me outright) is straight up not town play. Point blank.
 
WADsworth the Wise said:
Because it is a bad philosophy to hand and more often than not I have caught poor scum players out on this mentality.

DDL even recently credited a personal meta shift of his to me when I did that to him some time ago (called him scum for trying to sweep everything said on D1 under the rug)

Isn't that right @Dragon D. Luffy
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But from my perspective it wasn't like there was a butt ton of substantial discussion he was trying to sweep under the rug. This game so far is majority shitposting and that's why I believe he was referring to, not that "Anything D1 is useless so we might as well not do anything, and blindshoot".
 
Dr. White said:
But from my perspective it wasn't like there was a butt ton of substantial discussion he was trying to sweep under the rug. This game so far is majority shitposting and that's why I believe he was referring to, not that "Anything D1 is useless so we might as well not do anything, and blindshoot".
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I see. But I really don't think he was speaking specifically to this game. Look again:

Katsuargi said:
It's day once. Beyond ability use all we have is bullshitting.

So activity levels will depend on how much bullshitting people feel like doing.
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Particularly the second line. He's not saying that we can or will end up doing something productive, he just hard implies that the only variable will be the activity based on how much 'bullshitting' occurs.

So I believe he was speaking generally to the state of D1 in Mafia games...which is even more ludicrous because it IS a role madness game so any given person can or might have info.
 
WADsworth the Wise said:
I see. But I really don't think he was speaking specifically to this game. Look again:



Particularly the second line. He's not saying that we can or will end up doing something productive, he just hard implies that the only variable will be the activity based on how much 'bullshitting' occurs.

So I believe he was speaking generally to the state of D1 in Mafia games...which is even more ludicrous because it IS a role madness game so any given person can or might have info.
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Hmm that is true. I still don't see the the major sus but I can see your point a little bit more.
 
Mr. Waffles said:
I was mafia that game, yes.

He didn't actually investigate me though.
So he can go die in a fire with his fucking investigation on day 1.
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Still was right :catwalk


but, I don't really trust Raven for shit
nor do I trust WAD for shit

but phase ends in 5hrs doesn't it?

and I'll be long asleep by then

decisions decisions :hm
 
Dr. White said:
Hmm that is true. I still don't see the the major sus but I can see your point a little bit more.
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Define 'major suspicion'.

Because I'm not wholly convinced but this is the best I got from the people I've been trying to read so far. All I have at the moment is a strong town read on Nighty, a weak town read on Sin trying to go full YOLO, a moderate scum intuition on Melodie, and a mild to moderate scum read on Katsu.

I still would like to lynch Melodie over Katsu, but Melodie hasn't even posted...a great deal of people haven't.

In fact, hol' up.
 
WADsworth the Wise said:
Define 'major suspicion'.

Because I'm not wholly convinced but this is the best I got from the people I've been trying to read so far. All I have at the moment is a strong town read on Nighty, a weak town read on Sin trying to go full YOLO, a moderate scum intuition on Melodie, and a mild to moderate scum read on Katsu.

I still would like to lynch Melodie over Katsu, but Melodie hasn't even posted...a great deal of people haven't.

In fact, hol' up.
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The aggression and "moderate scum read"/subsequent vote from his passing comments and subsequent snark.
 
The aggression is not a result of my belief towards him being mafia, it's a result of me being aggressive as I typically am in Day 1 with the added desperation of trying to get some level of discussion going because this game has been :catsleep-tier so far and that's a shame.

But I would still think it's a major misnomer, and frankly, weird to call it a 'major suspicion' when I am really not sold on him being scum either way and could be easily convinced to lynch someone else should a better case present itself.

Hell, I might just go back to Melodie...because...yeah. She on that scum meta, and >Melodie in Nitty Scott games. You know she on dat evil tip.
 
I mean, it just seems convenient that the timing only comes after he says that he would lynch you.

So in a way, he has contributed by providing that train of thought? If you're looking for him to actively scumhunt, well, good luck because I don't think anyone has gotten him to do that in 7+ years - it's just not his style.

It is curious, though. He did say earlier he would like to lynch either you or Hyperion, and now it's just you...but he hasn't placed his vote.

I'm sort of leaning weak scum on him, but I haven't been doing too well on reading him lately. :catshrug
 
Evil C.C. said:
No, i am scum :dank
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Nighty the Mighty said:
did the game start yet?
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Stelios said:
Yes you are outed scum already
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Nighty the Mighty said:
rip

I hope you don't also figure out my scumbuddy is @SinRaven
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SinRaven said:
rip

I hope you don't also figure out our godfather is @Melodie
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Nello said:
Hey AM I think that was pretty good and natural interaction. They'll never suspect us to be scumbuddies now :amuse
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Alwaysmind said:
Nope, specially when they dont know about that funny thing you said in the qt today.
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Nello said:
OMG don't say that, you'll ruin everything!!!!!!
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Alwaysmind said:
As long as they don't find out that @hammer is the GF, we have this in the bag.
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@WADsworth the Wise
 
WADsworth the Wise said:
I mean, it just seems convenient that the timing only comes after he says that he would lynch you.

So in a way, he has contributed by providing that train of thought? If you're looking for him to actively scumhunt, well, good luck because I don't think anyone has gotten him to do that in 7+ years - it's just not his style.

It is curious, though. He did say earlier he would like to lynch either you or Hyperion, and now it's just you...but he hasn't placed his vote.

I'm sort of leaning weak scum on him, but I haven't been doing too well on reading him lately. :catshrug
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Have you noticed me jumping on everyone who wants to lynch me? Not a rhetorical question, I want you to admit you're lying :hurr

His train of thought is literally "who do I want to memelynch more". He doesn't get to criticize others for inactivity and say that it's "not his style" to atually contribute himself, especially when he's been cooperative before

Again, he's not the only one who has expressed interest in lynching me. This is not some kind of desperate self defense
 
Nello said:
Have you noticed me jumping on everyone who wants to lynch me? Not a rhetorical question, I want you to admit you're lying :hurr

His train of thought is literally "who do I want to memelynch more". He doesn't get to criticize others for inactivity and say that it's "not his style" to atually contribute himself, especially when he's been cooperative before

Again, he's not the only one who has expressed interest in lynching me. This is not some kind of desperate self defense
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Who else has expressed an interest in lynching you or has voted for you, to your knowledge?
 
Nello said:
Have you noticed me jumping on everyone who wants to lynch me? Not a rhetorical question, I want you to admit you're lying :hurr

His train of thought is literally "who do I want to memelynch more". He doesn't get to criticize others for inactivity and say that it's "not his style" to atually contribute himself, especially when he's been cooperative before
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Explain to me the "memelynching" of Hyperion ? :hm
Cause he was on the list cause of his earlier post hesitating to state he was town.

Don't quit your day job to become a full time mindreader just yet.
Just saiyan'.
 
WADsworth the Wise said:
Are they voting for you or said they're interested?

Because if all these people are hesitating in actually placing the vote down...then that's worth analyzing. :thunk
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I'll find the quotes in a bit
Mr. Waffles said:
Explain to me the "memelynching" of Hyperion ? :hm
Cause he was on the list cause of his earlier post hesitating to state he was town.

Don't quit your day job to become a full time mindreader just yet.
Just saiyan'.
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I did not know that, but then why is he equally lynchable to me?
 
Mr. Waffles said:
Because it's day 1.
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So i'm a memelynch on par with Hyperion.

WAD tried to suggest that you had contributed in the way of providing some thoughts on who to lynch but it seems to me that you literally just said ":iria" in one post and then "I don't know who I want to lynch more, Nello or Hyperion. :hm"

You can extrapolate based on context but this is just as easily a facetious post and a memelynch. I find it extremely hard to argue that you have provided anything of value to any discussion. You're just being a hypocrite and somehow denying this fact. This bumps you above WAD to numero uno lynch candidate :juubishade
 
Nello said:
So i'm a memelynch on par with Hyperion.

WAD tried to suggest that you had contributed in the way of providing some thoughts on who to lynch but it seems to me that you literally just said ":iria" in one post and then "I don't know who I want to lynch more, Nello or Hyperion. :hm"

You can extrapolate based on context but this is just as easily a facetious post and a memelynch. I find it extremely hard to argue that you have provided anything of value to any discussion. You're just being a hypocrite and somehow denying this fact. This bumps you above WAD to numero uno lynch candidate :juubishade
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Whatever floats your boat.
 
Shizune

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