Game Warcraft III: The Scourge of Lordaeron (Alliance wins!)

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

I'm Archmage Vargoth.

Alright then tell us the approximate time Vasto was renominated for investigation in the last meeting. I'm guessing we all got the PM at roughly the same time.

 

[SinRaven]

Hmmmmm

[Unvote]

 

[Shizune]

Incoming actions​

 

[Shizune]

Saidan Dathrohan superkilled Dr. White (Deathlord Mograine)!

Deathlord Mograine
Champion of the Scourge
faction: The Cult Of The Damned
wincon: eliminate everyone outside of the Cult

“Life is meaningless. It is in death that we are truly tested.”

[Artifact – The Corrupted Ashbringer] – This weapon of the Light has been twisted into a force of evil that Mograine can use to perform a faction kill each night. If Mograine returns to the grave, the Silver Hand will recover this artifact.

[Passive – Mark Of The Horseman] – Mograine’s shadow magic devours everything it touches. Actions targeting Mograine are turned into roleblocks. If Mograine is roleblocked, the user will be marked. Marked players cannot target Mograine again and his kills against them are upgraded to superkills. Mograine learns who is marked.

The former Silver Hand paladins have reclaimed The Ashbringer and purified it of its unholy taint.

Archmage Antonidas animated an aquatic guardian, gaining a life.​

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

Oh my god is the cult still not gone?

 

[Katsuargi]

Looks like my hunch was right.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

That must be...why his role was...hidden on death...

But how come...he became a cultist...and I...didn't...

Is it...because of his role...because he is Mograine...

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

Okay enough is enough who else from what groups works with the Burning Legion or Scourge at any point?

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

But how come...he became a cultist...and I...didn't...

Is it...because of his role...because he is Mograine...

Morgaine became a Death Knight in lore.

 

[Katsuargi]

Want me to shank one of the revives and see if we can trust them in general or if we should get rid of them?

Gambling two lives (Whichever one I pick and myself) against having a data point on if the 4 are ok.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Morgaine became a Death Knight in lore.

I know that...I remember him...from Naxxramas...in Vanilla...

 

[Katsuargi]

Shouldn't you dicks have had strong suspicions he was full of shit then?

I wasn't around for Nax. Lulz.

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

This game is following lore. People that become undead as part of their role do it because they did it in Warcraft. Start thinking about other notable traitors.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Shouldn't you dicks have had strong suspicions he was full of shit then?

I wasn't around for Nax. Lulz.

No...because I thought...the Cultists...already had their members...from the start...

And Mograine...was clearly town...for a while...

So not only...are they a mafia...but they are...actually also...a cult...

 

[SinRaven]

Nice Katsu.

Now I'm really starting to believe WAD's theory about a traitor in each faction.

Who is most likely to betray the council and wildhammer clan, lorewise?

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

I already named the traitor to the Council in lore.

the glory

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Nice Katsu.

Now I'm really starting to believe WAD's theory about a traitor in each faction.

Who is most likely to betray the council and wildhammer clan, lorewise?

Council was...Kel'Thuzad...but he was legacy...

Kael'thas too...but he was...not associated with...the Cult of the...Damned...

There was...another...whose name...eludes me...

 

[SinRaven]

No...because I thought...the Cultists...already had their members...from the start...

And Mograine...was clearly town...for a while...

So not only...are they a mafia...but they are...actually also...a cult...

I don't think they're a cult as in the don't recruit their members.

Nitty is a fan of roles with hidden parts that change part of the role or even it's entire role and alignment. Probably once certain conditions were met the old Mograine became the Death knight Mograine.

Anyone with lore knowledge know which other characters are capable of changing their entire allegiance?

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Based...on those still alive...I do not know...

 

[Shizune]

Nitty is a fan of roles with hidden parts that change part of the role or even it's entire role and alignment.

At risk of interjecting, I just want to say I appreciate you noticing this detail about my roles.

 

[Katsuargi]

Updated the list. Sorted it a little better. Filled in the paladin names.

Marked the people that were dead and have been revived.

2. Legend (Nathanos Blightcaller)
3. WolfPrinceKiba (Archmage Arugal)
4. Santi (Ner'zhul)
6. White Wolf (Tichondrius)
8. Platinum (Arthas Menethil)
9. Nighty (Jubei'Thos)
10. Katsuargi (Saidan Dathrohan)
12. Hyperion101 (Renthar Hawkspear)
23. Lord Genome (Sylvanas Windrunner)
24. Melodie (Kel'Thuzad)
16. Evil C.C. (Farstrider)
21. Nello (Stormcaller Mylra)
19. Mr. Waffles (Wildhammer)
26. Dragon D. Luffy (Kirin Tor)
18. Ultimate Deathsaurer (Kirin Tor)
7. SinRaven (Kirin Tor)
17. Superman (Sir Morgan Ladimore)(Paladin)
14. Franky (Admiral Barean Westwind)(Paladin)
13. Dr. White (Highlord Alexandros Mograine)(Paladin)
15. WAD (Archmage Modera) (Dead, revived)
1. Stelios (Lachlan MacGraff)(Generic Forsaken) (Dead, revived)
5. Shiny (Kurdran Wildhammer) (Dead, Revived)
11. Alwaysmind (Halduron Brightwing)(Dead, Revived.)
22. Shark Skin
25. Cooler

 

[Katsuargi]

Modera, MacGraff, Kurdran, Brightwing.

Any of these go evil on death?

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

I was...the longest standing...council member...and truthfully faithful...to Dalaran...always...

 

[Dr. White]

Thank you from freeing me of the evil tainting my soul. Time for rest. GL town.

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

Sin is Jaina I'm Runeweaver and DDL is Antonidas

 

[Franky]

Modera, MacGraff, Kurdran, Brightwing.

Any of these go evil on death?

I've been into Warcraft lore for years and even double checking no, none of those fall into the category of "traitors"

And, although I feel I don't need to point it out, Stelios can't still be Forsaken because the faction is gone.

 

[SinRaven]

This is Evil's rolename: Lor'themar Theron. Don't say he has any chance of being a traitor?

He has been silent lately, though I think he's just busy irl or something.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

I...don't think he is...traitor...

That would make...Farstriders too...corruptible...between him and...Sylvanas...

 

[SinRaven]

True, just wondered if it might be a possibility.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Also...Arthas and Mograine...were cult...

Last one...has to be...either Wildhammer...or Kirin Tor...

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

Who else has appeared with a janitored action on them?

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

I don't think any of the dwarfs have any lore reasons to be traitors. We need to stop thinking of the Cult of the Damned as the Cult and instead think of it as the Scourge. Yeah I know Nitty had them separate but fundamentally that's what we're dealing with. Mograine was never part of the Cult he was part of the Scourge.

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

Whoa the person Shark Skin claimed gets possessed by a Dreadlord.

the glory

 

[Katsuargi]

Good enough for me. He's not being particularly active anyways.

Potentially sayonara people.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Well...done...

[Change Vote Lynch Shark Skin]

 

[Katsuargi]

[Change Vote Lynch Shark Skin]

 

[Shark Skin]

If one of you were to attack me you could free me from this predicament.

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

What predicament would that be exactly?

 

[Katsuargi]

Lynching him is an option, yeah.

But...what's up shark? Feeling a little backstabby these days?

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

One of the former lurker kings, I salute you Shark Skin

[Vote Lynch Shark Skin]

 

[Shark Skin]

Lynching him is an option, yeah.

But...what's up shark? Feeling a little backstabby these days?

Not really... maybe.

 

[Shark Skin]

The one thing I will say is that I had indeed been targeted by the Burning Legion, which as you know is also still around. This hampered me to a certain extent although I wouldn't say that they necessarily "possessed" me.

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

See this is why you don't talk to disembodied voices. They're never good.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

So...you are Cult...

Were you...always Cult...?

 

[WolfPrinceKiba]

See this is why you don't talk to disembodied voices. They're never good.

Talking to/making deals with demons and otherworldly entities is my thing in D&D

I never get culted in mafia games

 

[Franky]

Well then [Vote Lynch Shark Skin]

We'll see where this gets us. Hopefully a dread lord.

 

[Shark Skin]

Eh... I'm a horrible liar. Yes, I was always Cult. And I would have gotten away with all of this if it weren't for you meddling kids

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Eh... I'm a horrible liar. Yes, I was always Cult. And I would have gotten away with all of this if it weren't for you meddling kids

You finally...broke your...truth meta...earlier then...

I am...sad...

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

Let's start hunting the left over Burning Legion role then. I have a feeling this is going to be the traitor WAD is expecting.

 

[Shark Skin]

You finally...broke your...truth meta...earlier then...

I am...sad...

Yes. I'm sorry WAD-kun

You don't know how much it pained me to do so. But you caught Mel early and it'd been so long since I had last played that I didn't want to just give myself up early. And sure I could have lurked and barely meet post requirements, but that wouldn't have been much fun. Not that I did much anyway

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Yes. I'm sorry WAD-kun

You don't know how much it pained me to do so. But you caught Mel early and it'd been so long since I had last played that I didn't want to just give myself up early. And sure I could have lurked and barely meet post requirements, but that wouldn't have been much fun. Not that I did much anyway

You have ascended...to your...final form...

Shark Skin...Unlimited...

 

[Shark Skin]

Let's start hunting the left over Burning Legion role then. I have a feeling this is going to be the traitor WAD is expecting.

Would you guys still want my advice on that

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

Oh? Someone has a grudge against the Burning Legion?

 

[Shark Skin]

Oh? Someone has a grudge against the Burning Legion?

I was targeted by White Wolf earlier in the game, so yes. He may have even cost me a recruit because of it. But I won't say much. The last Burning Legion most definitely is a traitor. I have reason to believe that the assumption that this person became a traitor early in the game. As a matter of fact I may have even targeted him myself.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Became...a traitor...?

I thought...they were always...Mal'Ganis...

 

[Shark Skin]

Became...a traitor...?

I thought...they were always...Mal'Ganis...

I mean I would guess that is a possibility of course. At the same time I gained an ability that makes me thing that a traitor would be an even stronger possibility. Unless you are 100% sure that Mal'Ganis is a role in this game.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

He has been...mentioned...in all of...the non-cult...scum roles...so far...

I do think...he is a traitor...and he...possesses someone's...identity...

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Do you also...not find it strange...the investigations...have ceased...

It's written in my role it's a 3-shot. Four thanks to your tive travel shit.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

It's written in my role it's a 3-shot. Four thanks to your tive travel shit.

That was such...a good play...by me...completely screwed...Kel'Thuzad over too...

Then...I slowly started...to lose...my mind...

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

Everyone else alive has claimed a town role so either we need to figure out what faction has more members than it should or we have to assume a traitor.

 

[Shark Skin]

I wonder who Falstad's kill failed against during night 2. Would be interesting if it was the same person I targeted

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

Definitely...rule out Farstriders...the Forsaken is...enough...

Probably...Silver Hand...too...Arthas and Mograine...should be enough...

That leaves us...with Kirin Tor...and Wildhammer...

I am thinking...Wildhammer...

 

[Shark Skin]

Definitely...rule out Farstriders...the Forsaken is...enough...

Probably...Silver Hand...too...Arthas and Mograine...should be enough...

That leaves us...with Kirin Tor...and Wildhammer...

I am thinking...Wildhammer...

One of these statements is incorrect

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Honestly feels like the math works and we should just lynch Shark Skin and Cooler.

I will bet on every bastard mechanic imaginable before I bet on a truth meta being broken for the first time in this game.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

One of these statements is incorrect

Are you...not...the last Cultist...

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

How did Waffles' truth meta work again? Does he still have one?

He never claims a false role

To counter that, he never claims either.

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

He never claims a false role

To counter that, he never claims either.

In fairness...he counter-claims...if someone falsely...claims his role...

That happens...to him..a disproportionate amount...more than it...does others...

 

[Shark Skin]

Are you...not...the last Cultist...

No, the Cult ends with me.

 

[Alwaysmind]

all i m going to say is you bitches have some nerve killing the grand shaman , reviving him as forsaken , sacrificing him and then reviving him again

What any of you thinks of Dr.white and Cooler?

Reminds me of a DnD session I had last month where we killed a bloodhound and our idiot Tieflig revived him to have it bound to his will. He was revived, wasn't able to be bound to his will, then the bloodhound killed us and was killed again the next session by the guy who was absent that day.
.

The entire campaign was in jeopardy 3 sessions in.

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Alright then tell us the approximate time Vasto was renominated for investigation in the last meeting. I'm guessing we all got the PM at roughly the same time.

Alternatively, tell us who was the person I initially tried to investigate.

@Shark Skin

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

He already...admitted to being...scum...

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Oh nvm missed new info

[vote lynch SS]

Does this mean he actually broke his meta?

 

[FLORIDA MAN]

He did...

...

It's...the end...of an era...

 

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Shark Skin breaking his truth meta...

What can we trust now?

What can we believe in?

What about our children? Think of the children!

Mafia is dead... I don't want to live in a world where SS breaks what made him a legend.

Spoiler:

Just kidding truth metas suck. Welcome to the fun side SS.

 

[Katsuargi]

Says you dragon.

Anyhow, any idea who he's accusing?

 

[Katsuargi]

Might want to have a backup lynch started in case a vig does something.

 

[Shiny]

I feel so useless

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

Okay so I think we can narrow this down. It seems like each town faction had 5 players for a total of 20 before all the conversions started with 4 mafia and 2 cult. So what faction is claiming 6 people?

 

[Ultimate Deathsaurer]

14. Franky (Admiral Barean Westwind)(Paladin)

Got him

Only a few know that he actually did die and that his corpse is being used as a disguise for the dreadlord Mal'Ganis

You're welcome town.

 

[Katsuargi]

[vote lynch Franky]

Good research UD.